You guys were right....I didn't know how to slappy😂

I got schooled in the comments section of my last video. I listened and tried learning to slappy properly.

[@skaterdudeprodutions]

any other KZbinr would have just ignored the comments, but Ben takes it in stride and humbley tries to improve. love the videos dude.

[@bendegros]

When they're right, they're right. Gotta do the right thing and admit it.

[@CurbBlurbs]

@@bendegros I’m a slappy obsessed 45 year old. 7 years ago I learned slappies to skate when the. Waves were horrible…. And I got fanatical…. The backside 50-50…. I feel you just get your body like a feather at impact… and it’s almost like a hop…. But it’s all timing and then confidence… Slappy crooks are so easy but hard to find your weight I’m learning slappy bs smiths, but like you I was doing them wrong…. My front truck would never hit the curb and the back truck would stay up. WRONG. Front is on and then dropped below… Slappies are so much fun and have extended my skate life

[@michaelkys]

ben degros got cancelled this cant be hapening im shaking and crying rn

[@seansiquig]

😂 he’s too nice of a dad to be cancelled

[@Renegade7990]

What?

[@Rustyfingaz]

Lol he got put on, the opposite I feel like

[@derekmccray9332]

Ben....this is one of the main reasons why I started watching your channel...because you're f'ing real man. You just put yourself out there and obviously, people gravitate to that. ...and, btw, the stone-washed jean shorts are sick af lol

[@fakiewilly]

160.00 later

[@LaBaticuerva]

They are called Jorts

[@paunchcoorlightly4000]

Thank you for clearing up slappygate 2022. We still love you.

[@paunchcoorlightly4000]

Also, you're not gonna like this but loose trucks also help a ton on slappys.

[@bendegros]

But they suck for everything else.....I might be biased

[@Robebabu]

You admitted the possibility you were wrong, and demonstrated the willingness to try something different. Personally, I'm from the camp that there is both a right/wrong and simultaneously also no right/wrong way of skating. Because skateboarding is a highly subjective experience. Subscribed.

[@smellslikeproductions]

he's trying to divide the slappy community like every media entity stay strong slappiers

[@bendegros]

Exactly. Toddler slappies are liberal and you get a participation medal just for trying. Carving, feet on the bolts slappies are conservative. You gotta earn those stripes😂

[@LonnieHutchinson90]

Your doing great no matter what everyone says! All your videos help me and lots of others!

[@CurbBlurbs]

Sound like an elementary teacher… minus the grooming

[@eastcoastcurbkiller]

Big props to you for making this one brother. Very humble. A little tip based on what I saw for both your FS and BS is to go a little harder heelside with your back foot for FS and a little harder toeside with your back foot for BS. That’ll slam your back truck all the way up there. Keep it up brother! 👊🏽

[@curbsesh275]

That's right....

[@michaelcullen5955]

Facts, especially with frontside I gotta remind myself this every time

[@eastcoastcurbkiller]

@@michaelcullen5955 bro same for me with FS lol. BS is no thought anymore but FS I always have to focus on what I’m doing.

[@P1Brand]

More heel on the frontside slaps yes, but more hips too!

[@Polarbarts]

Keep ya head up Ben. You still got a lot to live 4! Think about your family man! ❤️

[@SPOD_ZONE]

Nothing feels better than a slappy with feet on the bolts

[@thundernixon]

I really appreciate that you made an updated video here! What a cool thing to do. When I saw the name Jef Hartsel and looked that up, I was like, “ope, yeah Ben is wrong and this looks way better, but oh well.” So, way to stay flexible and keep learning! This is an inspiration for myself when I get corrected for info I publish.

[@nicofish1000]

You angered the slappy community 😂. Big props for owning up to it. I taught a bunch of people to slappy by having them ride perpendicular to curb then after bashing the front truck shifting all weight to back. Once you're on the curb shift weight to toes or heel accordingly. If you can slappy you can do em going super slow.

[@spacewolfRIFF]

All quality information here folks. Personally, getting all my 230lbs shifted back post-bash was the entire battle. Once I saw some emphasis being there, got my co-sign with no hesitation. 🤙

[@paulpagoda5835]

The one wheel manual concept has broken down some mental barriers for me. Thanks.

[@OvaltineClassique]

Had me at willy slappies lmao. Thanks for this tutorial, this trick has been at the top of my to-learn list since I started skating and I'm just about ready to give em a go.

[@michaelkrauer1286]

Me too

[@zachribera9517]

Mad respect for getting back out there and trying the 3rd method!! Love the way they look when you just full on carve into the slappy! Side note but I feel it's easier to maintain speed and ensure that front truck gets locked in with this 3rd method.

[@spiegel1997]

Listening to comments and making a new video to re-evaluate the trick is brilliant Ben. Your videos are top tier my man !

[@BusenBingoBalthasar]

Quite impressive how he just wrapped up the whole hardflip discussion lingering since the mid 90s in a side note starting at 13:15 - I’ve had so many arguments about illusion flips and whether they’re mathematically the same :-) Ben if you ever get bored do a video on the hardflip history from Mullen to Muska on to the great debate about when a revert is or isn’t considered a ghetto bird :-)

[@subieracer005]

Ben, LEGIT DIY coming along.. That longer double sided curb looks soooooo good and fun!

[@ronniecreager2585]

Hey dude! Very happy to hear your tricks are coming back and your rehab is progressing well! That’s a great feeling. Thanks for the content. Enjoy your vacation!

[@ToneWoodAmpSupport]

I really dig watching folks front slap cross-locked like yours on transition. They feel good as hell and I personally think they look the best.

[@1969tross]

Ben. Thanks for these videos. I am 53 and just now learning and working on slappys. This video is really helping me right now.

[@powwi061]

You should have an honorary PHD in skating/philosophy/construction. Love your work

[@B0NGERSON]

We all eat our own words. Being able to admit when we’re wrong isn’t a trait we all possess. Props to you for that.

[@Woodywoodah]

Two perfect slappy curbs and a miniramp at home? You're living my dream

[@leamon2501]

Ben you are so wise, and so cool. You look so sophisticated chilling in the chair conjugating skateboarding.

[@matthewbrandon267]

So dope you listened to the comments, respect. Dan Corrigan has a tutorial to on this, you guys both did awesome in explaining it

[@KyoHazuki]

Hey Ben. I love to hear, when you talking about technical aspects of the tricks!! Thanks for uploading more vids. Cheers!!!

[@leamon2501]

Ben I tore my Meniscus as well it was awful for 3 months. I made an appointment with the surgeon, he suggested cortisone shots it changed my life I'm back baby

[@Pd46.2]

Dude, I learned them the same way. Everyone’s advice was “just slam into it” (worst way to explain how to slappy) after I got the transition style down I was able to learn the other “proper” way of doing them. Both are super fun and come in handy for different spots and different slappy tricks.

[@ElisainNature]

You’re humble Ben. Love ya. ❤️😄 I had to film myself doing em. Really close up. Felt like I had em right, watched the footage in slow mo and realised I still cheated. 😄 Went back the other day and finally got em. Always keep my back foot closer to the bolts than tail. Now that I know how to do both front and backside, I keep my front foot a little bit closer to the middle of the boars. So not over the bolts. Then I feel more ready to do for example a pop shuvit of the curb

[@andrew-zr1pf]

You're 100% correct on the (edit: transition) front side 50-50. It allows you to come back in with better timing, less awkwardly and more speed and flow. I think Keiran Woolley is probably the fastest bowl skater right now and that's how he does it and most transition pros. Also at least the one wheel manual slappy still looks way better than the toddler slappy. Man the toddler slappy looks aweful. I think Dan Corrigan once said that he does his 50-50 slappys like how you would do them on transition too instead of front truck first and that's how he'd rather to do them?

[@shmeegie32]

Funny this popped up on my feed cause i learned slappies your “proper” way and it always felt like i found a little cheat code. One day i saw an old head bash a slappy with his feet in ski position and thats when i realized i have truly been doing them wrong

[@dillypentland]

That DIY looks amazing, fun daily spot.

[@jakergray]

Legend. Always love your videos and the positivity!

[@gromitmitten7803]

Love the humbleness. Props Ben 👍🏿

[@kristofnagy2131]

I love you Ben!!! You are the best... Honestly🙏 Please never change!

[@inquisitive1]

the method to frontside slappys on a regular sized curb as opposed to a baby angled curb is the weight-shift to your heel-side allowing that front toe-side wheel to essentially bash up the curb's edge at an angle so that the front truck can connect - once you've understood how this works the back basically follows in the same manner. this also applies to backside, as you're approaching the curb, at the very last second, lean toe-side and guide your front truck in allowing the heel-side wheel to roll up the edge of the curb first until the truck fully connects with the toe-side wheel locking in and whilst that happens the back truck naturally follows suit.

[@gabriellaforce2041]

It's ok to not really slappy, because as long as you can do tricks on ledge you don't really need it! HAHA! I like Henry Sanchez comments on this one!

[@PsychoCitySkateboards]

Bravo Ben . Now those are legit slappies !! I was one of the people that commented 🤣🤣

[@bendegros]

I'm sure you weren't the only one 😂.I only read about three comments on that video and knew I had more work to do. I'm honestly not even going to read any comments from that first video. There were a few people who conveyed the message very kindly but I know the comments will be filled with a whole lot of stuff that isn't worth reading. If you want to get your point across it's all in the delivery.

[@JonnyDIY]

Have a great vacation Ben! 🤙

[@kevinfletcher2198]

When I go front side I think of it as the world's smallest quickest duck walk once the front truck clicks in

[@Alabaster_Joness]

I really enjoy your philosophizing

[@ian_davidson]

Thank you Ben for always being a real dude!

[@marceugeni]

"Skate for fun" as Steve Cab would say!! But I would expand it: "Skate for fun, but do tricks well done, clean and well executed. That ads craftmanship and respect for the skaters that invented those tricks and pays homage to our beloved art. Stay on the shouders of giants, and you'll progress solid, legit and faster".

[@donivonlayman3813]

Do more trick tips love your content keep it up 😉 your insight is always unique and detailed

[@nullbyt]

Learned the crook one on a plastic parking block the other day, never really did slappys they always seemed like magic to me lol

[@inquisitive1]

the front truck is the pivot point - the toe-side wheel (frontside) rides up the surface of the curb past the edge until the front connects and the back truck makes the slap sound. for beginners, if you can consistently get onto willie slappies, the next step to that is having enough momentum and angle to get the back wheel to roll onto the curb and eventually having the truck slapping in and grinding.

[@maxochavez5854]

Love the shoes can’t wait for a review on them! Adidas Puigs look so fire

[@spifffaro2477]

Keep inspiring people Ben, don’t let the trolls get to you !

[@mrzoom214]

Porogression! Ben you are awesome! So stoked to watch slappy topic

[@jimmybreeze00]

i'm 45, had miniscus injury, recovered without surgery - woudl be great to hear a bout your rehab and how that's fed into you gym regime...

[@MichaelS-bz4pk]

Ben, if you stay much farther away from the curb and carve harder with more speed, driving through rear foot after contact, it will spit front truck off naturally and feel like a sketchy rush, and don't forget to yell.

[@deeeggo2199]

Watching ur videos makes me feel younger than I am haha😂😂😂❤❤❤

[@timobrien6499]

You’re the best Ben 🫶🏽 love your videos. Hope you have a great vacation with your family ✊🏽🤌🏽 bless us with a new vid when you return. Brightens my day whenever I see a new Ben video in my feed always the first one I click on 🤘🏽

[@fearlessbydesign]

I always try to explain that slappies are a weird "should not work" trick...but when you get them, you get them. Curb dances are a whole nutha level of beastmode slappies...once you get those goin, then and usually only then can you school people on what is and isnt a slappie.

[@kanklelove1826]

Ben You're killing it _on the Ramp!_

[@StayWetProductions]

Hey Ben. Been watching your vids for a long time now. Always inspiring and grounding. Just wanted to say I appreciate the content. I’m 31 and I’m currently laid up in bed from a meniscus surgery. I’m 2 weeks in and I’m at that point where it’s still swollen and stiff and it makes me scared I’ll never skate again. I tried 1 year of PT before finally pulling the trigger on the surgery because I couldn’t even walk anymore without pain. If you see this and have free time on your hands feel free to reach out about your recovery from that surgery. I’ve looked high and low on the internet and I can’t find any proper content on the recovery process or if I do they quit after their first vod. Which actually inspired me to make a series where I put a video out every two weeks. Anyways this meniscus repair surgery is brutal and I’m struggling mentally and physically. If you have any input or knowledge to share.. it. Would be the most appreciated source. Take care brotha 🤝❤️

[@kikflip416]

I don't know if this will be helpful for you right now but I remember him saying in another video that he was doing the KneesOverToesguy program as a part of his rehab once he was able to and I've heard it's been good for lots of people. Wishing you a smooth recovery

[@StayWetProductions]

@@kikflip416 thank you so much ❤️🤝

[@rotterbull4224]

Hope you do a video all about your meniscus recovery!

[@pabsrea5998]

Dude if i can ever just reach the level of skating you have it would be dope. Ill take your trick advice👍

[@benphilo4672]

I think getting the proper slappy is tougher when you have an angled curb to learn on, when you have a 90 degree curb that’s slightly lower you can carve up and lock in easier at first then bring it to higher stuff.

[@marcusarruzza319]

I had the whilly grind issue. Adjust your back foot so your heel is further off the deck and it will probably correct it. The one you nailed appeared to have that.

[@azazelreficulmefistofelicu7158]

Nice tutorial, thanks. About the fs 50/50. I've recently watched again the first vert video I've ever watched, ramp'n'rage 87. At that time street.... was not what it is now, flip tricks were freestyle not street, but I digress. Vert skaters did fs 50/50 like "street skaters". I think that, as many things from that era, it was not the most efficient way of doing things and normal evolution made it a thing from the past or for "beginners".

[@chrisXjosi]

Love that you improve your skills 💪

[@PandaJackk]

You're right on the meniscus surgery. Studies have shown that people with minicus tear who get surgery und people who don't get surgery have to do the same amount of physical therapy to get rid of the issue (source: Dr. Kyle brown)

[@on-lineworldwide9267]

Great content always and thx for being consistent! 💪🏽

[@tylerself5660]

Love your videos Ben! Since you’re in Slappy mode, You should try the the Ace Af1s again. They are a great slappy truck!

[@ianrestores]

Ben I would love a video about getting back into skating from recovering from injuries. I have had jumpers knee and multiple leg strains from skating in the last year and I find it's usually hard to figure out if I'm 100% healthy again to skate like I want to.

[@yaboipepe0521]

Big props to you for making this video 👊 Also i personally don't think there's a right or wrong way to do a trick, just easier and harder ways, or separate tricks altogether.

[@kymodo817]

Great vids mate! Redemption always feels good! 😂 psyched on the content and watching your recovery progress back to shred mode

[@SchwappSchwopp]

another day, another vid, love it! Hope you saw my achilles comment on the last video, I'll just repost it for you here again: I had the exact same achilles pain for over a year, hurts like 1000 little needles pushing right into the achilles right? Pretty sure it is insertional achilles tendonitis in your case aswell. This video helped me: James Dunne - If your Achilles tendonitis isn't healing... WATCH THIS NOW Loading the tendon has helped me a lot, I combined it with eccentric calve exercises after a while. Of course I did other things on a regular basis too and still do all of this: foam rolling the calve and the footbed, stretching the whole back chain like calves and hamstrings and butt. Eating a lot of healthy stuff, much protein, good carbs and fats, supplementing omega3 and vitamin d3+k2

[@tommyjsaari]

Duck stance and more back leg powe slide motion is the key for FS slappies.

[@riggel8804]

You got it. It's 100% a carve trick. I got stoked watching this. Feels way better and looks better doing it the right way. There is something gross about doing a timid slappy. It's a hesh/mob trick. I think of it like grinding the most ghetto coping ever. Next you got to learn wall rides. That's another hesh trick.

[@AspiringSpaceWizard]

I personally like it when you just bash into the curb . Id almost say its a mini wallride

[@justiceizzy82]

We’ll have to get the Dan Corrigan opinion on right or wrong since he’s a slappy master

[@bakedbeings]

I like your completeness, and I still count all 3 versions as slappies because whotf wants to make up/learn another term for the climbing versions?! If it's not a ride on or an ollie, slappy will do eh.

[@bendegros]

Agreed

[@charliebecker]

👏👏👏 that was quick! Made the video AND learned the “proper” slappy technique before dark? Impressive.

[@bendegros]

I was motivated.

[@angelguillen5963]

After watching these two videos I am now on a journey to slappy

[@kymodo817]

Absolutely!! 😂

[@Hi.Im.Levi.]

Bro. We love thee. Tis but a round table my lord

[@ristohanninen1969]

Those were some proper slappies! 👍 I should put more work on my slappy crooks & feebles cuz those are rad.

[@-tr0n]

I think there will always be a right and wrong way to do certain tricks, but it's gotta be really cheaty or really ugly for it to "matter". Whatever floats your goat is my philosophy. That said, I'm very slowly recovering from my own meniscus issues from last Feb when I started splitboarding without any training and I'd be interested to see your recovery process. I know you and some others have mentioned "knees and toes" something something, but haven't had the motivation to go further with it.

[@ejlopez6637]

Those were 100% true slappies. By the way, thank you for being objective and taking the time to look into the unsolicited advice of an internet nobody haha. I made the same comment on Dan Corrigan’s how to slappy video and just got crickets. I also think I should have been a little clearer on my last comment on your last video. I shouldn’t have said your slappies were cheating. I just wouldn’t call them slappies. They’re more like wallride grinds, and honestly I think they’re harder haha. The tail lift to get the front truck on to nose lift to get the back truck on is definitely cheating though. If there were a Gifted Hater tier list on slappies, those would get the nipple clamps haha.

[@FirelordRob76]

the easiest curb to slappy are the rounded ones like what they have at the downtown park in vancouver and at that long curb spot on the seawall.

[@nekro9t2]

Legit tricks look and feel better and that's part of the enjoyment of skating imo. This applies very much to flatground, I see lots of skaters who can land quite complicated flips but they look really horrible and sketchy. Then when you see them do something more basic it also looks sketchy. Learn each trick and learn it well (properly).

[@bp4861]

Just got my first pair of independents and holy crap the turn radius is insane compared to my thunders. And super high in the air

[@bobnery]

80's skating had one rule, don't grab stink bug

[@curbsesh275]

So proud of you Ben....you are the goat

[@surfingizm]

Much love, Ben!

[@qtrage6830]

My personal opinion on doing tricks are if youre just having fun skating alone or with the homies theres no SPECIFIC way to do a trick but if you gonna go and skate competitively or in a game of skate that's where doing a trick "correctly" comes in play.

[@cobrachlan6415]

Great vid and great message 👌

[@Lucy-lx3dn]

damn ben with the same day followup

[@meltingspot1064]

I believe there is a correct way to do a trick, not only will it look proper it will feel proper too.

[@billymullins1357]

You did some good slappy's in this vid Ben you redeemed yourself. lol Also you say you are hurting your achillies? You may want to try and be lighter on the front foot, I learned that tip from the Ray Barbee nine club and it works for me.

[@deanl.5870]

No way Dude, I have the sweetest Willy Slapps. I went from Willy the Kid to Sir William

[@32srt32]

slappies arent easy! but fun as hell once you get them!

[@LilCrispyBoi]

I always did the foot up on the nose stance for slappy krooks and 50s. I had no idea this was considered “wrong” Maybe I’ll try a different stance next session

[@AdiSkater86]

looking at this vid and then thinking about the slappy vid prior, it’s making wonder if Ben can slappy back 5-0?

[@dubble_g]

for fs 50s a friend told me i should do a fs powerslide into the slappy curb and then ill get on, thats how i learned it

[@riggel8804]

You have graduated from sloppy to slappy. Congratulations.

[@cybervehicle]

Behold as someone who uplifts their community instead of their bank account.

[@tuukoittaa496]

I wouldn’t say the kinda ”kickturn” type technique is cheating nessesarily but the feet on the bolts and slamming on to the curb is definetly cooler looking!

[@18JR78]

Ben, you're the man. 🦾