Bending a 2.5m Curved Oak Roof Beam

[@carlroge]

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[@noidnomis]

Awesome vision! 😎 Would be great to see one of the second glue up as well..?! Looking forward to the next one, live or recorded.

[@SpaceMulva]

Can I see into the future?

[@jpkalishek4586]

I used to use opera, but it was a bit of a resource hog, though I used the vpn when needed and kept tabs to a minimum. The Picture in a Picture feature was one of my favorites, but now both my Brave and Vivaldi offer it, and for some reason Opera would not install correctly on my Mint system, and Brave suddenly would (for some time the opposite was true). It is still on my PC but it's an older version. Maybe the new version will install.

[@TimothyJesser]

I don't know how healthcare is in UK or EU but if it is available to you, I recommend Humira or the newly released biosimilar equivalents (more or a less a generic). This medication has changed my life and freed me from the pain of AS. Take care.

[@167curly]

Well done, Carl. An elegantly curved beam.

[@AKo-bb2bd]

Be careful with your loose clothing over the jointer!

[@neilbuttery3981]

That was quite scary to watch. Slight spoiler alert that nothing bad happened based on live streams since then but still didn’t stop the fear.

[@Dave_1966]

I was about to type exactly the same thing 😊

[@kurtzcol]

@@Dave_1966 me 3

[@karlchristoffer1275]

Absolutely dangerous, loose clothing with a spinning machine is killer..!

[@baggins1bilbo]

Gave me a moment or three there.

[@bstiger6482]

I worked in a carpenter shop during college, and we produced laminated beams for pavilions. The one thing we did different from you is that when we had the blocks in place, we added a 3/4" strip to form the curve as part of the mold. This gave the oak a smooth surface to rest on, and also gave us a place to add clamps without reaching to the block ends. Second, we did not glue all the strips at one time, like you. We put one strip on at a time, and screwed it to the bottom one, except the first strip as it was clamped to the mold. Sometimes we only put a few on at a time to let them dry. It worked great, and the beams were beautiful after finishing. It was a great process, and I think it would make your next project better.

[@wxfield]

We do glue-ups like this every week in our shop here in New York. A couple things I learned is to rehearse the glue-up by just going through the motions. You learn where the slow-downs will be this way. We also don't want to dilly-dally with the clamps..our clamps are modified pipe clamps with a nut welded onto where the handle would have been. We carry around an impact driver with us and bring the clamps to bear much faster with the impact driver. We always try to have two guys doing the glue-ups. We discovered it cuts the glueing operation and stacking operation time in half by adding a 'helper'. We also stopped using the roller method of distributing glue and now use an airless sprayer that can handle the viscosity of the glue. Honestly, for production work..the airless sprayer and the impact-driver, driven clamps were the two biggest things that cut time in half for us.

[@baihou88]

Hear hear for glue-up rehearsals! The amount of pain and agony I've saved through swearing by them is immense. (not that the final actual glue-ups aren't *still* a total stress factory... but what they would be like w/o the rehearsals scarcely bears thinking about... 😬)

[@Itsthatoneguy371]

If it’s possible, doing a “dry run” or two with anything is a good idea! Thanks for the tips, once I get going I’ll look like a pro.

[@Stoeckermann]

Thanks for your comment! Have you had experience using a Chain hoist to pull the whole Thing by the ends of the Strips with a Sheet Metal Strip as backing? I would also Love the Info in where to find the Informations to calculate vor the spring back.

[@wxfield]

@@Stoeckermann Maybe I don't really understand what you're asking..but this sounds like a really bad idea. Remember that the Romans used the spring energy in bent wood to make their ballistas. Slow and steady with clamps is the way to do this, unless you particularly prefer to have all your blood on the outside of your body, of course.

[@blinkinbaboonbiskit]

yesss!!

[@catgynt9148]

If you have any remaining arches to glue up, consider only glueing 4 layers at first and the remaining 3 after 24 hours. It will give you a bit more time to address issues and reduce your time induced panic mode. I understand your disease and it’s health implications, you continue to amaze me with your skill and tenacity. I hope the overall height of the caravan will not limit your ability to travel to Spain. Wishing you and your family a blessed week filled with gentle seasonally appropriate weather and restful evenings. Peace brother.

[@wileycoyotesr8623]

Yes, please do video the final assembly. Will be interesting to see how the procedure progressed. This was another fine video from you. 👍👍👍

[@jimwampler6210]

That turned out well, nicely done. You can eliminate the plastic by using paste wax on the form. The glue peels off of it easily and the wood slides together easier. And as you stated, a slow curing glue or epoxy would take a great deal of the time stress away. Finally, you said it best , oak is king.

[@davidcrabb3967]

I was impressed with your drawing of the hut let alone anything else you did , great work

[@colinbrooks6290]

Carl that beam looks magnificent mate….. what a challenge….. Carl don’t be too concerned about how soon you can post your latest episode……no one minds waiting for bespoken contents…… absolutely love the project mate ⚒️🔨🍺😁🔥👍🫵🏻

[@jillbork2683]

Please live stream the final glue up, so excited. Nice work and thanks for sharing!

[@norwegiangadgetman]

There is no 'too much glue' when gluing curved laminates. Steam bending is incredible. My father used it on some boards and banding back when he built wood boats. That was mostly Spruce and Willow, though. Don't think he used much Oak on his boats.

[@jakleo337]

For a master class in steam bending hardwood see Engle's Coach Shop here on YT. Dave uses a coal fired boiler, a surfactant in the water, and a steel chamber at 3 PSI for steaming. Then a steel band against the tension side of the bend to prevent tearing. He is able to make wagon bows out of kiln dried lumber with his process.

[@VAXHeadroom]

Dave's steaming and bending setup is genius. Love that channel!!

[@Dave5843-d9m]

I wondered how you maintain an even bend and avoid cracking the wood. The steel band is genius.

[@audiotechlabs4650]

Each episode explains why you are building this wagon. At first I thought it was your personal wagon. Now we know it’s going to Spain. Will you get paid for the build? The materials you are using makes for an incredible, beautiful and strong wagon. Once completed, it might be too heavy for horses to pull. Will it be used for work or display? I think you are quite a talented young man and from what I know, you are doing everything right! Can’t wait for the next episode. Thanxz

[@guzziwheeler]

Hearing the funny call of the hoopoe at 28:32 gave the video the final touch. Good job as allways, Carl! Shoutout from Germany!

[@markwood2224]

😂 👏

[@99andrianmonk]

Carl - the only thing I would have done differently if I was doing it would be to retain you to do it. Clearly bending the beams requires a high degree of skill and intelligence. You nailed it.

[@BettySwollocks13]

I’ve said it before, but you are going to come a cropper with that loose clothing near spinning machinery, be careful Carl.

[@415volts]

I was just about to type the same thing - that was worrying to watch.

[@Timgeo84]

i had to pause at 7:18 just to say the same thing! don't be too carefree around that stuff

[@mrdee1986]

I've often wondered how or why he works in open sandles no socks, no protection an accident waiting to happen

[@hifiandmtb]

Same. Paused at 7:18 to come here.

[@RichardHeadGaming]

The thousands of twisted and torn people are just waiting for another member to the club. Sadly most never knew they joined........Part of the reason the Darwin Awards exist.

[@larrygould8246]

I think for someone your age especially, you are a very skilled craftsman. You should be very proud ! Hoping your disease doesn’t keep you down.

[@Vickwick58]

It's nice that your building suppliers have lumber that square and straight. Here in Staten Island I have brought home 2x4's from either of the two major suppliers that could have served your curved roof beams a treat without doing anything to them. Also keep in mind that the set time for the glue you're using is going to be very dependent on the ambient temperature. Judging by the jacket you're wearing, it's probably a little chilly, so you have a little bit more time to work your magic.

[@Bob-kb5pv]

Love your videos. I made a steel and reclaimed timber table and bench for a moving in present for my son and his wife. I always turned down requests from their friends to build others. But I realised how much I enjoyed the build so I am going to start another in October. Watching your videos reminded me of how much pleasure you get from creating something from raw materials.

[@boaboa2673]

Hermosa lección de buena construcción. Te felicito. Ese carro que estás construyendo me hubiera sido muy útil acá en la Patagonia Chilena. Realmente es para un Museo .

[@hughchapman5319]

A tip: When cutting strips from beams the beam gets thin and harder to balance the saw on as you say. Use another planed beam next to the one you're cutting to create a larger working surface

[@egonolsen8979]

This channel is awesome and your development is very good. Keep having fun and stay healthy!

[@brianswartz1098]

Hi Carl, you are such an inspiration. I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis in 2011 which affects all my joints. Sometimes weeks go by when I can't even pick up a tool to work on my little wood projects, so I feel for you Brother. All the best to you and keep up the good work.

[@cachinnans]

I particularly liked the lack of any irritating background 'music'. Excellent job!

[@davidclark5975]

I have done this kind of lamination quite often. I found by using plastic packing tape on the plywood vs. the plastic sheeting, it is less cumbersome. By gluing up 4 at a time you are less stressed and the fact you are using quick set glue to factor in. Some lamination's I soak the wood in hot water, steam is also a great way to get the wood to bend easier. You prebent the wood overnight. If it were wet it would have held more of the curve. All in all it turned out great and all of them would probably support a small tractor. Thanks for posting the video. Side note: My wife used to be an archeologist working in Montana and her home for a few months was a shepherds trailer.

[@kevinronald4137]

You are an expert and a pleasure to watch. Plus I learn a lot from your solutions and techniques.

[@nataliakhartskhaeva7446]

Я впервые смотрю процесс изгиба досок, я нечего не понимаю, но мне очень интересно! Спасибо за видео, это как учебный материал.Карл, береги свое здоровье.Пусть твои идеи воплощаются! Смотрю все твои видео несколько лет.

[@overspes]

Nice Voldi Ref ! And as always, amazing work !

[@labschi]

Tera Sinube said "Value of moving slowly is that one can clearly see the way ahead" in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. It may be a fictional character, but as a wheelchair user I can relate to that. Your thoughts about your autoimmune desease and your work progress reminded me of that quote :)

[@zachmiller5099]

Plenty will tell how they would do it but they aren't doing it in a barn in France for the first time. Good for you Carl!

[@rodmills4071]

Mate , no one in the comments are telling him how to do it.... they are presenting different options and experiences quiet respectfully from what I can see .... 43 years as a joiner and I can tell you if you think you know it all you will stop learning and become very narrow minded in your work.... I'm surprised , and enjoy the fact that I am still learning new way to do thing in a trade I've been in all my life...🤔😂😎🇦🇺👌

[@coustran007]

Gotta love the British dry sense of humor! Lots of great laughs throughout this one.

[@steveb.5617]

Yes MORE British humor!!!

[@Peter_Vidgeon]

I got my jacket earlier in the year, thank you. It was worth the wait. Excellent video.

[@BuickDoc]

Recently I had a patient with Ankylosing Spondylitis who was about to give up driving because he could not rotate his trunk enough to be able to see traffic from the flanks, especially when backing into cross traffic. I suggested installation of two side and one rear camera with a display on his dashboard so he does not have to twist to see what is coming. He found this very useful. I present this for your consideration if ever you find yourself in this situation.

[@ExpectMiracles55]

Love the way this video came out, showcasing your creativity, all the skills never ceases to amaze me, my renaissance man! Please Carl, heed to the advice of a group in the comments about safety around the jointer and so on. May we never, ever hear you had an accident in the shop.

[@joshuabooth8853]

I love the picture you drew to convey everything to your audience.

[@katzgar]

The best part of this is Carl's brain.

[@scottcates]

Meatwad wasn't available.

[@MarcusT86]

Great video buddy. Looking forward to the next. My partner has Ankylosing Spondylitis and she struggles too. People don’t take it seriously or know how debilitating it can be. Projects can be delayed, but your health can’t. Got to look after yourself first.

[@oh8wingman]

I have to wonder if you used a strong ratchet strap around the slat bundle to an anchor on the far side of the table (concave side) and tightened it up if it would not be faster than using clamps for the initial bend process. A strap would give an even pressure all along the outer (Convex) part of the curve and pull the ends in to the form. Essentially like an archery bow when the string is pulled back. You could set it up with the slats dry as a trial run to see if it would work for you or not. I have used this method to bend 3/8" x 6" steel bars this way to get a precise curve. Just a thought.

[@jimilipi5493]

I planned to use this method but I concluded that it required a very very strong metal frame to support sufficient pressure. perhaps the advantage of his method is that the pressure of each clamp is greater and distributes the forces.

[@rodmills4071]

I was thinking along a similar vein..... if he had made a complete circle of blocks two beams could be glued at once .... but then I guess he'd need an offside, as it would become too difficult on your own .....🤔🤔🤔😎🇦🇺👌

[@tyrelirwin]

Take your time, Carl. The videos are worth it. 👏

[@theofarmmanager267]

Lots of helpful advice on fabricating curves in hard wood. But, I’ll add my own - from bitter experience. 1. Certainly for tighter curves, I steam bend the laminations first. Nothing fancy, just a big plastic bag and a wallpaper stripper. After softening, put on the jig - you are not looking to get the exact bend but really to get more than half. Leave on the jig until dry. 2. Use long setting glue. I tend to use epoxy. Knowing that you have time to spare takes away that stress 3. The tighter the curve required, the thinner the laminated 4. Choose your timber carefully. Straight grain and no knots. Using these methods, I can make tight bends up to 3” thick quite easily.

[@helderlage]

Hi I live well beyond the Pyrenees, next to the Atlantic Ocean which, although not Spain, is Iberia:) [Lisbon]... It is impossible not to be overwhelmed with amazement and a lot of envy of the ability of you projects. Congratulations. ... I have chronic neuropathy pain, so I understand well what you must go through with physical discomfort.

[@all_the_moga]

Take your time, champ. You're worth the wait for sure.

[@garyparker5516]

Amazing! I’ve seen some guys in the US use epoxy as a glue and tuck tape to stop it sticking to the boards. No idea if it would be strong enough for this. You did phenomenal!

[@richiejames928]

Yeah epoxy is a great glue for this sort of work as it’s so slow drying it gives you hours of working time. goes on thin and is about as strong as you can get…. But expensive. Messy. And very slow to cure. not ideal if you have to make many pieces with only one former. the difference between days and weeks.

[@garyparker5516]

Good point on the drying time. Cheers for that

[@rodmills4071]

There are a lot of different marine epoxy that would be ideal for this application. Especially if there was any chance of the bows getting wet or damp from condensation ????

[@martincraftsman576]

Nice work Carl and I hope they all come out with the same curve. I've done a glue up for a 6.5m semicircular conservatory in sepele. I made my formers with a top and bottom out of 18mm ply with the blocks to create the width needed. The bottom part stood up on the floor. Timber lath screwed to the sides kept the timber in place and i put the top part of the former on top and pulled it down with rachet straps through holes drilled along the curve. I got multiple uses out of the formers before taking them apart. Keep up the good work young man and never give in.

[@marcusott2973]

Much awaited, much appreciated excellent work as always from you.

[@tylerr3469]

Be proud mate! Great job!

[@johnrobertwoolley5730]

Great video as usual: love the countryside and heard a Hoopoo at 28,33

[@waltercook4868]

Interesting. We don't have Hoopoos in my country. We don't have Cuckoos either, except the kind that come in clocks. We do have Doves and I hear them in your European videos from time to time.

[@koolkar55]

AWESOME. Love this build. You are a legend. Thanks for Sharing. Billy J..... Queensland, Australia.

[@SteifWood]

Best YT moment/shot ever (13:36). Love you brother.

[@cowboyal75]

Slow and steady wins the race. Love your content.

[@OfBronzeandBlaze]

Obviously too late now, but you might’ve considered making a steam chamber for the strips. It’s commonly used in luthiery and sometimes in furniture building

[@boriscalderon1678]

I thought the same thing

[@69dblcab]

Well Done Carl. Be safe and Be Well. WE will hang around and enjoy what you can produce and share when it is presented. THANK YOU

[@boyscott7193]

Great work and well explained through a professionally made video. I was convinced you were going to bury that old Landrover with the digger but glad you didn't!

[@philleeson7835]

Awesome, congratulations on a successful gluelam. Very skillful

[@richardprice6488]

It is remarkable you master your physical craft when suffering from autoimmune restrictions. My mother developed it in later life and now my daughter has it. She is trying tailored bio medication which helps and is enabling her work to continue. Your determination to complete your projects is humbling. Keep well your videos give great pleasure. We are eager for more but we understand the limitations.

[@Hinch55]

4:03 -- "Whoa!" Another great vid, Carl.

[@andyjackson3663]

During the glue up - my arm chair critic head says it would have been quicker to have had all the clamps on the empty bit of space right in front of you and laid out in order so you didn't need to leave the piece - time as you said was a factor. Also, maybe a side project is making a "rig" to hold the portable bandsaw in? - something like a "rail" above to suspend it from so you aren't carrying the weight? Still, awesome stuff to watch 👍

[@davidaldrich3488]

You are the essence of what I watch on KZbin. Very well done young man

[@northerndarklight5305]

I've never had to use it, but I've heard that very lightly sprinkling salt will keep the boards from slipping past one another. The crystals won't affect the adhesive quality of the glue, but they will dig into the wood enough to keep the individual boards aligned.

[@sovereigns1grace]

Wow! 1732 is very auspicious. I could watch this process over and over. You are very brave and it turned out incredible!!

[@aok2727]

Wow!!! I am impressed. My only suggestion would be to reduce the drama by allowing the audience to buy a slower setting glue

[@rootvalue]

When a product is making huge amounts of money and is free to the consumer, the consumer is usually the product. I’m glad Opera is supporting you financially, but it’s good to evaluate how you or your data will be used.

[@rootvalue]

This dude doesn’t care lmfao

[@Txef]

please allow me to insist. This is by far the best KZbin channel ever. Congrats and overall, thank you. Take care !!

[@kirbygulbrandsen4507]

I like watching you build because you don’t except okay, it has to be correct 100%. Watching from Panama City Florida, USA. 🇺🇸🦅 Absolutely Fantastic ! YES BRING ON A LIVESTREAM, THE MORE THE MERRIER.

[@kirbygulbrandsen4507]

I didn’t realize you were dealing with a disability (a handicap), kudos to you.

[@renerobes30]

Okay, the countdown timer had me anxious. Nice result.

[@janeandmikewolf]

I too suffer from Ankylosing spondylitis and understand totally about the hip inflammation. The only cure for that is resting the body in a comfortable position. I also have Psoriatic Spondylitis and it affects the left side of my body, but the AS is in my neck, spine, hips and now knees. Keeps active, take the drugs that work, and keep building.

[@waltercook4868]

Questions: Can you put wooden pegs in, after the wood glue has dried, to help the arches maintain their curve? I wonder if you can cut each slat thinner then glue them together? I wonder if you could soak each slat in water or something like Thompson's Water Seal then try to bend them - would the wood bend easier? I wonder if you could score the wood before glueing and bending to help strenthen the integrity of the arch? BTW, you are a master with all the projects you share on KZbin. You've got my admiration.

[@Bob_Adkins]

Agree! Moistening the boards would have made the glue set up slower giving him more time to get things straight. Thompsons has silicone in it, and the glue wouldn't hold as well.

[@waltercook4868]

@@Bob_Adkins Thanks. Good to know.

[@nigelbullock9039]

Just incredible work and skills. Well done.

[@nordwestbeiwest1899]

Hello, I watered the strips for a while and shaped them on the gluing device. This process takes a little longer but ensures that the gluing is easier. The shape would then fit your markings exactly with this method. When it comes to the thickness of your oak strips, I derived this from shipbuilding in order to shape them in curves.

[@dan__________________]

A reckless masterpiece. I know the stress of laminated curves and you did great.

[@thomas-gk9jp]

Funny you have the expression "touch wood" in england too ^^ Thank you for work, it helps a lot !

[@clarisd]

❤ is there more to the story of the home you and your family are rebuilding? I watched and rewatched these videos as I am renovating a very small home, so your work and posts aid and inspire me to tackle as much as i possibly can. Thank you for your channel 🙏 .

[@gaynorjasonjack]

Fantastic work Carl. Fortune favours the brave!

[@davidfarley1175]

Carl, for your age, You have a fantastic knowledge of design and woodworking, I hope you are well and your videos are shared with us on this project

[@jeffforbes3772]

The saga continues! Can't wait for the next installment. Thanks for posting.

[@lawrencecurtis812]

I think you did really well. For first time laminations, I would be over the moon. All that planning paid off! I bet the smell of the cut oak is sublime. Thank you for the entertainment.

[@deebee3901]

Lovely work mate! Huge respect from Australia!

[@blinkinbaboonbiskit]

THe construction of pianos, of which several good videos exist on KZbin, would have been quite informative. This could have been done a little more easily, but you are enjoying the process, and that's good.

[@Nemosan01]

Great to see the vid. The live stream was mega!

[@michaelpetty2016]

Improvisation is the mother of invention. Well done!

[@BuickDoc]

While I have yet to try this, I have seen other YT providers steam bend the laminates, and then glue them. This has the advantage of removing most of the stress from the finished piece and makes it a lot easier to clamp up while glueing. In order to steam bend a solid three inch piece of oak, I would think you would need a 20-50 ton hydraulic press with metal forms, rather than wood forms.

[@chrismoose64]

Best channel of its genre on KZbin...imho.

[@matskelton9589]

A real tonic !! Great work as always - deffo up for another livestream 👌

[@nickturner2606]

Morning Carl, nice work with the gluelam, the fast setting PVA might’ve been a misstep but you nailed it, well done! In regards to steam bending, I think it would be easier in some ways but there are some definite problems with the technique. A piece of 150mm pvc would work as a steam cab and a couple of wallpaper steam strippers would provide ample steam. A couple of expanding bungs would allow a good seal and with a couple of holes drilled for the steam nozzles you’d be off to the races. A moisture curing glue would be in order I suspect. The downside is, when the oak comes out of the tube it is bloody hot and it would need speed and two pairs of hands to get it into the clamps. Also, tap water contains minerals that would stain the oak black and then you have to consider the water content of the oak may cause some coming and going as it dries. Swings and roundabouts mate Your process is, on reflection, the best in my untrained and humble opinion, but there may be other considerations I’ve failed to comprehend.

[@antoniofdez.varela9432]

Como siempre muy buen trabajo

[@ivanvdwalt9265]

Hah I was about to mention the same thing!!😮The loose clothing!!I really enjoy watching your projects

[@jlmfoy365]

Brilliantly done Carl. I think I would have bitten the bullet and bought different glue, but where's the fun in that. As a fellow AS sufferer I am amazed you cope as well as you do. Regards Jim

[@RinLwe-bj2jo]

Also fellow AS person. RNHRD Bath? Tx - "biologics" - that actually is treatment for AS, not just management.

[@Jean-francois-i4b]

Hi Carl, i'm enjoying your work from Montreal Canada. I am also watching Olivier Verdier's youtube channel, he is also building one just like yours from scratch and since your probably understand French it could be an inspiration for your project. Take care.

[@john3Lee]

I have workshop envy !

[@redrafashiro]

Hey, I'm still a learner but at 9:55 I've been in a similar pickle, so what I did was use the previous cuts on the side of the saw and temporarily screw them on to help stabilizing the cut, as an alternative you can try to clamp them vertically (if the clamp can't get a proper hold you can try to use some scrap squares, you will also have to move the clamps around at both ends when starting and finishing the cut) since horizontally you would be pulling the board you are cutting into the blade.

[@richiejames928]

Superb work Carl. I might be wrong but I think your maffell portable bandsaw can also be bench mounted and operate like a regular bandsaw. so saving you and your back from shifting all your tressells about.

[@stevenholton438]

Yes please film another video of the final beams.

[@ohcrapwhatsnext]

Amazing work Carl. It must such with the autoimmune issue. Carry on soldier...

[@adamb0mbz]

remember carl, slow is smooth, and smooth is fast :)

[@RicktheRecorder]

Certainly you can steam oak, clamp in place and let dry. Build up say 4. Then do 3. Then when dry you can glue and clamp easily.

[@aerial_camera_video_imaging]

Excellent work and great dedication. Please mind your clothing around the machines.

[@3oonapk.]

Отличная работа, жду продолжения и улучшений)

[@stanniemi7929]

You created a teeter totter effect. You need to start pulling the laminations in line from the middle out. This will require you get different glue so that you have more work time. Once you pull your laminations together in the middle you will then need to align all the pieces by clamping down on them on either side of the middle clamp. You may have to release the middle clamp to do this.

[@SuperJaXXas]

Awesome diagram/explanation!

[@TORNTOA]

A large heavy duty ratcheting strap would probably work as well. Wrap it around the pieces and have a central point on the other side for the tension.