Bengals Fire Lou Anarumo, Frank Pollack and Two Other Coaches After Disappointing Season

[@fredbetts3514]

Just please hire a proven defensive coordinator. We don't need an "Up and coming" guy.

[@johnkammer4754]

Or a no-name,or retread...😮

[@dominicscarlato326]

I’d like Robert Saleh. Sure him and ARod didn’t pan out, but the defense was amazing while he was there

[@0831fabian]

Saleh

[@dropthehammer-k3n]

Saleh.

[@ShawnConrad-tw8du]

Up and coming is Latin for further down the pay scale. Why dont they just let Mike Brown bimself do it? Or Katie Blackburn. Thatd be sweet. They could run the old Tecmo Bowl or Coleco defense. Lol

[@2337baxter]

The defense was never as strong as we said. Losing Bates and Reader was atrocious.

[@malikwilson7387]

@2337baxter the brown family made Lou the scapegoat instead of firing Zac

[@sjdjfieizkck]

So many coaches cut but the one that needed cut most didn't get it...

[@RaydinAE11]

Robert Salah is on my mind. Can he bring in free agents and talent to express his ideas on the field. Get Al Golden back on the staff. I have the same feelings about an o-line coach. Is there a guy to bring in talent at guard and can coach up the back ups to punch above their weight.

[@ZeitdiebX]

Let’s point out. Lou ‚Mad Scientist‘ Anarumo is a great DC. Always was. He appeared tired, a bit worn out. Maybe this is the change both sides needed. It’s still sad. Very sad.

[@ShawnConrad-tw8du]

What needs changed is the ownership. Theres a better chance of hitting the lottery than that happening, though.

[@MarkVennemeier-q3d]

I guess your definition of great is different from mine. Finishing near the bottom half of the league in defense since he got here, players not developed, not being able to stop teams late in the game, missed tackles, rarely blitzed, no pressure on QB other than Hendrickson. Why do rookies on every other team on defense start and make an impact their first year and ours never do?

[@ZeitdiebX]

@@MarkVennemeier-q3d All correct as J & J pointed out as well. But remember 21 and even 22/23 Lou. He always had a way to adapt to the opponent. Seems they had his number More and more in recent seasons.

[@jamesbauer3215]

If he was a great DC why did their defense suck ass

[@rory_M]

It’s not that simple.

[@discopotato188]

Zac Taylor is a Deadman Walking. We got 2 more seasons of watching the "Sack Attack" offense because the front office is too cheap to pay him to sit on the couch. Hopefully JoeyB survives.

[@TheBlaine]

Is it his fault the OGs are dogshit? Sounds like a Tobin problem yet again

[@johnhitz1185]

​​@@TheBlaineTired excuse. Taylor lost all but one of the first few games the past few years and lost most of the one-score games in those years. He is to blame for the lack of depth at running back, and for Burrow getting hit more than any other QB because he doesn't run the ball often enough. Anarumo has been bad, but not worse the past two seasons. Taylor should still be fired if the Lions OC is interested in the job after the playoffs.

[@dimedraweriv258]

I lost confidence in Taylor after the Baltimore ot loss. Run the ball 3 times up the middle and try a 51 yard fg. That's chicken s**t football

[@runnn3107]

We can’t wait two season for ZT to go… team will be destroyed by then. ZT must give up play calling!

[@awilson8385]

To be fair, bengals had one of the best offenses in the league. Burrow is to blame for half of the sacks he gets. He refuses to throw the ball away, he always trys to extend every play. Sometimes u just have to live to play another down and just throw it away.

[@TaylorPort]

Don’t forget Cappa won triple crown also lead the league n sacks, pressures, qb hits

[@bermudabengal]

🤣🤣🤣

[@stevemcglone7832]

Duke made a comment in an interview from the combines this past year, that the coaches need to develop the young people. Lou chose FA vets and when they were failing he seemed reluctant to play the young guys.

[@JesusFreak89]

Definitely a pride thing i saw.

[@Chris-dt8ru]

duke shouldve been gone 20yrs ago

[@johnhitz1185]

Anarumo got stuck with draft busts D.J. Turner and Myles Murphy and losing Dax Hill and Tee Higgins to injury cost us the playoffs. Taylor should be fired if we don't win the division next season. If not sooner.

[@whodeydan]

@@johnhitz1185another 0-3 start and i’m saying screw it and cutting Zac Taylor loose

[@dangitdan9938]

Pollack should have been gone... Feel bad for Lou, got snubbed on HC jobs and now this. I'm sure Lou will find a spot as long as he isn't tasked with developing almost a whole defensive squad.

[@0831fabian]

I mean that’s part of being a defensive coordinator

[@adamandreas5907]

I’m skeptical that this was actually Zac’s decision. We never hear from draft genius Duke Toebben or ownership. I’ll be interested to see how a new D coordinator transforms our mix of washed up vets and poor draft picks.

[@stevemcglone7832]

The O line benefitted big time when Eric All was involved in the run game. His blocking made a difference and took the pressure off the pass blocking.

[@jacobhoff770]

Hes gonna be a stud

[@jimshu245]

​@@jacobhoff770 If he can stay healthy.

[@DaveTookOver]

All jr will be pro bowler if he can stay healthy

[@getbrainseeds]

i most happy we got rid of frank, every free agent we have on the o line had worse stats with us than their former team, finally got rid of him yessssssssssssss!

[@pdureska7814]

If you want rookie starters on the O line the data from the past few drafts indicate that rookies who started at least 8 games were mostly taken in the first 100 picks. We took Mims, yes a bit raw but all the talent in the world. We traded DOWN for Carmine and passed on several up and coming young stars currently on other teams. Every year the O line picks are relegated to the late rounds and none of those guys are any good as starters. Cody Ford will not be mistaken for an All Pro. We wasted a pick on Burton and we wasted a pick on Erick All (he might be good but he was still recovering from an ACL and then injured again this year and Burton is/will be an utter BUST). Bengals have done ok with high first round picks (Burrow, Chase and hopefully Mims duh) but after that Zac Taylor must consulting a ouija board for the picks. Scouting department is bad and understaffed by NFL standards.

[@Chris-dt8ru]

This is good but i dont know how duke tobin has avoided the chopping block since 99. its time, long overdue.

[@0831fabian]

Nepotism, he’s a family friend of the browns

[@griehmmj]

Yeah for Zac for making the needed changes! Much respect for the decisive action!

[@johnhitz1185]

Wasn't a difficult decision at all.😂

[@thedude-nf1uf]

Very good point about lou and loyalty. A good example of that was hubbard. I love him to death but he had like 2 or 3 sacks for the season.

[@huebolser]

Hubbard is a beast at the run stop. He has been good solid player especially for the money they spent on him. Hubbard is good. Who cares about the sacks. Look at the pressures the tackles for loss that he's had over his career in cincinnati. Hubbard is playing at an elite level for what he's getting paid. Maybe not this year but overall. You must be one of those people that just don't understand they can't have the best players at every position because there's not enough money to pay them all. For what they are paying for the right side. Defensive end, they need to keep sam hubbard because they won't find anybody to come close to replacing him for the same amount of money, they pay him

[@TheBlaine]

@@huebolserHE WAS ASS AT EVERYTHING THIS YEAR

[@huebolser]

@@TheBlaine yes but he also had off season ankle surgery and played injured

[@Christian-vl1du]

I think youre missing the point. Lou never should have let him play injured. He should have been recovering while someone else gets a chance. He was am injured liability tvis year. ​@huebolser

[@natej84]

They better spend top dollar to get a top DC. They also better change the way they do business. Expand the scouting department, contracts, trades, whatever it takes to build a Superbowl winning team. The top organizations do things the Bengals refuse to do and that needs to change now

[@quintenruckman3505]

You can fire whoever you want but it won’t fix ANYTHING when you’ve got an owner too poor to cut the big boy checks. Letting key defensive players go before paying Burrow or Chase is inexcusable for a contending team. Offering Chase a deal with payments deferred until 2026 was an absolute joke! Hendrickson wanted a new deal and Brown was too cheap. Then he goes out and leads the NFL in sacks! Chase wanted his deal and Brown was too cheap again. Then he goes out and wins the triple crown! Could’ve gotten a 1st plus for Higgins in last year’s draft but thought you knew better. Probably could’ve replaced him with BTJ! This team is absolutely crumbling and it’s a shame Joe Burrow will waste his career with such a low class, second rate organization

[@johnhitz1185]

I agree. Tee Higgins missed games again, so not trading him looks like another mistake. Should have kept Bates here, but letting Reader go would have made sense IF they hadn't wasted the money saved.

[@0831fabian]

Mike brown needs to sell the team.

[@williamunderwood1762]

I this you mean “too cheap”.

[@louiseregan2498]

Forbes has reported that Mike Brown is worth 999.9 million dollars and the team is now in the middle of the pack regarding revenues. My thought is we should all be so poor as Mike Brown. It's also been reported by Wincincinnati that in Joe's contract there is a clause that allows Joe to renegotiate his contract to the tune of 19 million to retain quality players. They have also reported that presently the Bengals can access approximately 100 million dollars in revenues. Additionally, you can't forget the "New NFL Rule" this year that allows the Bengals organization to sell up to 10% of their organization to access money. So I ask: Is Mike Brown really so poor that he should sell the team or is he just so cheap? At any rate, Mike's real achilles heel is guaranteed money which he sees as a danger to the legacy he wants to pass to the Brown Family Trust. Arguably, I really don't see that Mike is too poor to write the needed player checks.

[@0831fabian]

Most of mikes money is the CINCINATTI BENGALS evaluation, he doesn’t have huge monies lying around in other investment/businesses like other owners. Problem is liquid cash and to get that he needs to sell some of the team

[@getbrainseeds]

i was at first upset about losing lou because they gave him bad free agents, but yalls point about not developing new guys is true i guess i am not so sad now

[@Siege181]

Can we fire Katie and Duke? Please?

[@bones3142]

I would love to see the Bengals get rid of Duke and finally hire a real GM. It’s about time they do so. I am very curious to see what players the cut, although I think it’s obvious

[@Justsomedude-713]

I can’t believe we’re firing Lou but keeping Taylor. That’s absurd. I’m not saying Lou did a great job but if Lou needs to be fired then Taylor should ABSOLUTELY be fired. Along with Tobin.

[@wanderlking8634]

The defense was the biggest weakness on the team.

[@johnkammer4754]

@@Justsomedude-713 as long as the Brown family in control, they never gonna get rid of Tobin,he's their little Darling!!!

[@uog293]

The vast majority of our offensive yards were from off script burrow chuck em deep to jamarr- zts plays are constantly beibg audibled OUT of

[@wanderlking8634]

@@uog293 I will repeat myself. The defense was the biggest weakness on the team.

[@justmythoughts2786]

@@wanderlking8634they had no talent

[@thedailyvlog6854]

We need a pass rusher like Max Crosby or Myles Garrett!!

[@cowgirlqueen2636]

Lou Anaroumo was scapegoated. They didn’t retain his personnel and have missed on a number of draft picks. He’s playing mid round rookies at key starting positions. The bengals didn’t understand who their defense needed to function. They let Jessie Bates go, let Awuzie go, and most importantly let DJ Reader go and replaced them with nobody. Pollack deserved to be fired but the person that deserves to be fired the most is Duke Tobin and ownership really. The defense sucked because they had no depth and average at best starters at key positions.

[@JesusFreak89]

No he wasn't. He constantly has failed to develop talent. He refused to play the young guys. Hubbard should not have been on the field, neither should Von. Sitting back not blitzing a rookie, etc. That's on him.

[@BengalsNation632]

Lou Anaroumo was part of them draft picks

[@cowgirlqueen2636]

@@JesusFreak89 yeah but all this looks like classic Mike Brown bullshit. Spend as little as possible to make as much money as possible. Put a competitive but unspectacular team out there

[@richardturner8495]

Losing Reader was a freaking disaster !

[@thedailyvlog6854]

Our defense needs to be better and tougher! Vrabel would be good for us in both of those categories! Also, Zimmer, Flores or Saleh!

[@quikrnu24]

Heard that the data shows that coach/quarterback have a super bowl win in the first five years or not at all

[@AnthonyMancuso-pt4ru]

Gesicki is a no brainer. 2YR deal!

[@BrianNewberry-x8p]

Fire Duke and hire more scouts please

[@runnn3107]

The Cincy sports media needs to HAMMER the Bengals FO every chance they get, and stop with the softball questions.

[@AnthonyMancuso-pt4ru]

The OL coach search should involve ONE FIRST CALL...if he says no at first keep asking till you're convinced its no. Its one of our family members and the last name is listed on the Ring of Honor....WILLIE ANDERSON! Checks all the boxes. The key questions are..."will they ask/would he answer"??

[@kevinmasch1211]

I think Taylor is in a real short leash. If we don’t come out swinging next season we will be seeing a switch right away.

[@louiseregan2498]

Top-shelf discussion guys.

[@williamcoleman8770]

The front office is going to bring two affordable, average OG’s. Same shit, different names.

[@cincybengals-l3s]

To be fair, average is miles better than what we had this year from our two starting guards

[@williamcoleman8770]

@ It’s a comparison to when we picked up Cappa,Karras, and both Brown’s. None of them were trash, but none were elite either. Just middle of the road type guys in their prime. I know all of them can’t be elite players but you gotta get at least one.

[@flunder50]

Several times in the past they would fire the coach with like 5 games left and the interim coach would go 3-2 and they decided to make him the HC. Then the next year they're terrible again. I'm glad they didn't think those last 5 games changed anything

[@thedailyvlog6854]

Someone on another podcast suggested someone to replace Pollack, particularly as the run game coordinator. Eric Bienemy is that someone. No one has even mentioned him. Apparently, he doesn't have s job right now, which is hard to believe! I know he has a reputation for being really tough, but he is really good, and we need that! He did a lot for the Kansas City Creeps during his tenure there.

[@Aldark22405]

I hate missing the playoffs, but I'm looking forward to you guys leading the offseason.

[@BrianBarge]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Bengals go 3-14 next season.

[@pdureska7814]

Doesnt matter if the players love Pollack...they play poorly. Joe too many hits and sacks (47 sacks this year). The run game was better second half of the season but not great. Chase Brown will be a star if he had a better O line. Plus, give Joe any offensive system and he can run it. He's that smart. He's not married to a particular type of offense.

[@troyroach1277]

I really wish I knew how the dynamic works in their player evals for the draft and free agency. Not sure where to lay the blame.

[@mrwowlover8432]

From “Who Dey” to “Where Dey” to “Cleaning House”

[@jacobhoff770]

Im not taking anything from Mr Logan Wilson. He's the best Mlb . Yet when we went out. Pratt took over calls. Correct? The defense started playing better down that stretch. Is Pratt that leader to call the shots?

[@JordanT3025]

Wilson is much better. The backend of the schedule was against weak teams.

[@HammeredWalnut]

Pratt missed so many tackles and wouldn’t admit it

[@9x9-qy7zw]

HC is responsible for the poor record. The team is not ready to play in September, that is his responsibility.

[@huebolser]

Whoever let jesse bates and DJ Reader walk should get fired. They should have kept one of those two players. I would have rather seen zac taylor get fired than lou

[@CP-ct5hp]

Too cheap to pay anyone

[@BowPlayKay]

I think they have a replacement in mind already because that was super fast.

[@damienjones5135]

8:17 is why lou got fired.!!

[@donaldnguyen19]

Al Golden or Robert Salah. Salah ran a great defense, but got fired. Meanwhile, Golden is the new but promising guy.

[@dannywood1733]

We need to fire the weight lifting team. Everyone is allways hurt!!! Its obvious!

[@louiseregan2498]

Coaching has had problems, but the major problem remains in the front office and Mike Brown's preoccupation with their imaginary line in the sand disavowing player guaranteed money. Yes, guaranteed money requires escrow of that money, but other teams have dealt with this why can't the Bengals? Mike needs to remove himself from the negotiations process if he is going to be so inflexible. How is it other teams have figured out the riddle of guaranteed money and the Bengals can't. Is it because the owner won't budge?

[@kaleb1858]

Dookie Tobin still got a job?? wtf

[@Jason-Austin]

Tobin doesn't really have any say in personnel decisions, Mike and Katie handle that.

[@no2_j]

⁠@@Jason-Austin that’s not true. His title is literally director of player *personnel*. He’s very involved in these things. However, to the original poster, you shouldn’t be surprised. I don’t think Tobin will ever leave, at least not while Mike is alive and probably still not after that. Been there over 25 years. I’ve heard him or the Browns/Blackburns in interviews talk about each other like they’re family. He is basically like family at this point. Firing him would be like firing their son in law or brother in law.

[@Jason-Austin]

@@no2_j Trey Brown is the *_senior_* executive in charge of player personnel, and Paul Brown Jr. is the vice president of player personnel, and both of them report directly to Mike Brown and Katie Blackburn. In terms of involvement and authority with player relations and player decisions, Duke Tobin is way down on the totem pole.

[@no2_j]

@ Trey Brown (no relation to the Brown family) does not outrank Tobin, which is partially a possible reason his name has been mentioned as a possible GM elsewhere, which would be a promotion for him. The others, who are members of the Brown family, may outrank Duke but Trey, who just got to that role a couple years ago after being a scout for many years, does not. You’re just wrong, dude. Duke is one of the key decision makers, that’s why he’s been referred to as the de facto GM by many. And it’s why he’s typically the face we see during many offseason pressers. Something we’d typically only see from coaches and GMs.

[@no2_j]

You may be the only person who thinks that Tobin has that small of a role or ranks that low in their corporate structure. Go read the Bengals Wire article posted this morning on USA Today. It refers to Tobin as the GM is an “open secret.” And it implies Trey Brown is essentially the assistant GM, reporting directly under Duke. Corporate titles and ranks of course differ from company to company. But a “senior executive” of a department almost certainly reports to a director or VP of said department. I do not know what PBJ or Troy’s roles specifically entail, and I’m sure that Duke does report to them. But Duke has long been considered one of the primary decision makers when it comes to player acquisition. That’s his role. He’s the *director* of that department. That doesn’t necessarily mean he has all the power, and if Katie and family don’t agree to the terms of a negotiation, then yeah, they get the final say. But I believe he’s largely leading the conversations.

[@whatthefunkwasithinking7645]

Maybe also send Zack Taylor to a "creative play calling" and "clock management" school in the off season??

[@JH-jx1hs]

This is scapegoating in an absolutely best light - especially Lou. This was a front office or ownership fail and a weak attempt at avoiding blame. It was almost certainly more about feeding a rabid fan base and another fail for a franchise with a long history of failure and wasting top tier talent.

[@giles815]

On one hand, you defend Lou for the organization letting Reader and Bates go. On the other, it’s safe to say the bengals haven’t hit on premium defensive picks in the draft and/or Lou hasn’t developed them into hits

[@donnalambert7674]

Should have included Zac

[@Hazalamalaikum]

The mid video ads are worse than cincys interior OL.

[@JohnEldred-ez8eq]

Hope and believe the replacments will be better

[@lawrencepennington7396]

IF the BENGALS DIDN'T change anything THEN it's would be said here we go again!!!

[@patricknickoson1580]

We should look at Jerod Mayo

[@adamhellman9373]

Not a bad thought

[@mikesmith9318]

I also pray that they bring in someone who is proven as a defensive coordinator

[@TaylorBurringtonify]

I get wanting to keep Zac because the offense produced but it still felt like a lot of Joe and Ja’Marr having to be magic which shouldn’t have to happen every play. I really think we should’ve made the hard decision to part with Zac and try to go get someone great. There were some good options this cycle and I’m sure any coach would be chomping at the bit to come coach Joe Burrow. We will see what next year holds

[@lawrencepennington7396]

Well now we can move forward and only hope FOR THE best !!!😅❤

[@diontaylor9933]

Bengals should get Robert Saleh, Dennis Allen, or Matt Eberflus for Defense Coordinator

[@thedailyvlog6854]

Two more possible candidates for OL coach are the great and legendary Anthony Munoz and Dave Lapham! Lap has his own podcast so I don't know if he would have the time or the interest.

[@dennismcintosh3699]

I don't know any names of available coordinators, but the strategy needs to be established proven coaches. We don't have the time left in Joe's career to develop anything. They don't have to be elite superstar names, just fundamentally sound. And proven. A top 15 defense gets them to the super bowl these next 3 years. An offensive line coach is imperative. Controlling the clock on offense with a reliable 5yds a carry running game will control time of possession. That helps the defense.

[@AntiGlobalist-o1s]

Dumping Lou is a huge mistake. What he did with a half a roster is nothing short of amazing. If Zac really wanted to help the Bengals, he should of fired...himself.

[@JH-jx1hs]

I guess if Lou told them to let Reader go or Jesse Bates go or if he was responsible for CTB or Joseph Ossai's failure to live up to expectations, then maybe, but...this smells of the same old Mike Brown downhill shit that Taylor took on himself to shield Mike.

[@0831fabian]

Ossai had like 5 sacks in the last 5 games. Lou refused to give him playing time and opted to send out Hubbard to get stonewalled at the LOS every play. Ossai was showing flashes before this season. The fact that Hubbard played so much this season with his stats is baffling. Cool dude but needs to be cut and move that money elsewhere

[@truckinpoppop6777]

They should unload Trent Brown. Talk about a bust.

[@allisondecker1918]

Why was Simmons allowed to keep his job after all of these special teams blunders directly correlating to costing us at least 3 games this season?

[@jabasabon]

I'll save everyone the suspense. Gesicki feels like he's been in a bad situation his entire career to be able to cash in. Now that he's had a good year and is no longer under contract, he's ready to cash in. He likes playing with Burrow, but basically, it's all about the money. So he's leaving town unless the Bengals are at least close to being the highest bidder.

[@PowerSpreadXO]

I think you mean "scheme" not alignment. Alignment is having the players - coaches - organization all on the same page with the same vision which forms habits of your operation -- Culture. Scheme is part of how you use your players in different positions, sets, pressures, coverages etc. For Anarumo he needs to have a Philosophy for his Defense that coordinates with Zac's ideas for Defense. If Zac is smart, he knows that Lou knows more about Defense and he defers to Lou. Not all HCs do this (Tomlin for example), but I think Zac does. After the overall Defensive Philosophy cames the Defensive vision for 2024 then the Gameplans, Schemes, and on gameday PlayCalls and Adjustments James, you are great at what you do, so I just wanted to make this point. Fans/Media need to keep some of this straight. Why guys succeed and why they don't and what it all means. Good point by you that this doesn't necessarily mean Annarumo sucks. But it's not just this yr as you guys pointed out. The Defense has struggled a lot for 2 yrs at least. Guys got old, banged up - and the talent coming in (especially the DBs) didn't cut it. Surprising, given the type of talent brought in. Lou is definitely a strong scheme guy - a somehwat conservative background, but he likes to mix it up. I'm thinking this is so much about the Talent - the young and the old. I always thought he was good with the players as a coach - but just bad choices as they dealt with attrition.

[@louiseregan2498]

The front office was unable to successfully negotiate with two key defensive players: Jesse Bates and DJ Reader. Apparently the owner, Mike Brown, and Katie, his daughter, who manages the front office, both have a problem with guaranteed money. Disgraceful how management handled Jesse Bates. Jesse originally asked leadetship for 14 million on his second year contract and guaranteed money, and there was the rub for Mike Brown, a player requesting guaranteed money. Consequently, Jesse was handed a pile of negative PR, slapped with the franchise ticket and at the end of that season walked calmly out the door with a 30 million dollar contract, mostly in guaranteed money. When this young, veteran player left the team he took his extroadinary talent and leadership skills with him. Jesse ran the backfield and coordinated his efforts with DJ Reader. DJ walked out the door because the Lord provided a pathway to the Lions and DJ wasn't about to take the front office's contract bull-crap. DJ, in turn, ran the Bengals' defensive line and was the Bengals recognized run stopper. Replacing these two accomplished players and locker room leaders were draftees who couldn't possibly fill the void or free agents who came in on the cheap. It is sobbering how management also caused all the drama this season surrounded the Tee Higgins botched contract deal, and unbelievably, the front office's breached promise to get Ja'Marr Chase's contract wrapped up this past training camp. Again the rub appears to be GUARANTEED MONEY! The Brown Family Trust is the real threat to a Bengals' Superbowl win, because they'd rather settle for mediocrity in exchange for "no guaranteed money" in outstanding players contracts. What other Owner in the NFL handles negotiations is such an amateurish manner? Who?😮

[@PowerSpreadXO]

@ wow. My expertise is schemes, not front office negotiations. So I know that Anarumo knows his stuff. And wasn’t suddenly a bad DC. I knew during the Super Bowl run he was also overrated. The Chiefs had a huge letdown after the huge Bills win. It wasn’t the 3-8 Defense everyone made a big deal about. Mahomes wasn’t fooled as much as he just sucked that game. (Yeah I said it. Sorry to offend your GOD). So basically, Anarumo was never great but he’s not bad either. I did notice age, injs and free agency. That seemed to be the bigger culprit. So yeah - what you say makes a lot of sense to me. And people have complained about the Browns forever. On the other hand. What these players make is disgusting. But supply demand. The fans demand it.

[@jp27whodey31]

The players backing Frank is very respectful, but meaningless. We can all see how bad he was

[@EvangelismforGod]

Strength and conditioning coaches need to be fired as well.

[@lawrencepennington7396]

The new coach will bring HIS own IN to coach!!!

[@lawrencepennington7396]

Great to hearing this😅

[@jabasabon]

"Frank didn't want Jackson Carman, we can all say it now". Wait. Why couldn't you say it before? Isn't your job to report on the Bengals?

[@BengalsFan2363]

Well Burrow said to wait till the end of the season

[@denizgifford1670]

Can anyone tell me a Time where they won a game because Zach won them the game late??? On the playoff runs? This Season??? Just curious... Why is anyone letting Zach make decisions on or off the field???? development... Defense is about Communication, Studs and Leadership... Letting the Leader, Stud and Biggest Communicator on the team in Bates and replacing him with rookies and Guys that just are not leaders, is a really fair ask... Its really hard to replace key players on defense that are your leaders and the heart and soul of the team... The offense was able to develop some players because the core of Burrow, Chase and Higgins has always been in tact. Imagine if they let Chase and Higgins walk this year and expected Burrow to go out there and put up numbers with OBJ and a Rookie Second round pick... Do you honestly believe Taylor can do better??? Even so Bates from a communication standpoint was more like losing Burrow... You cannot replace leaders... Lou did more with less... Got them to the SB... Made him do more with less and less, just to scape goat him in the end is so unfair. Taylor has never shown any ability to win a game with the most talented side of the ball. It needs to be the Kicker or the defense that closes games out and they instead let the defense suffer. Give up 30 to the Pit??? The defense was responsible for 10 points off of TOS by the offense??? and Defense scored a TD too. 3 TOs is why they lost to the steelers. Against the steelers the second time Did the Offense win that game??? Did Taylor close out that game??? NO... It was Lou always bailing Taylor Out. This season the Offense never bailed out the team with the best unit and yet the defense won them game when the offense struggled. 3 TO game for burrow and they win... Why... Offense scored 14 points against browns and 17 against Giants and win... Hmmm. That's weird... Offense with all the horses cannot win a game with ball in had in a close high scoring game.

[@dariusking2927]

Have any of you guys watched Bates play this year 😂😂 I don’t see what you guys are talking about 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 he not worth the money they are paying him 😂😂

[@0831fabian]

He will be getting another All Pro. The falcons defense besides him is trash as hell. 1 man can’t be your whole defense, you should know this watching Trey all year.

[@easylee4uify]

Robert Saleh

[@justmythoughts2786]

Big Frank pollack was a on the field general he is possibly the best lineman coach in the game

[@williamking3413]

they shoul go after the front office as well. they give uo good players and then sign lesser players for less money and then just blame the coaches when they have less talent.

[@sgc316]

Blaming Lou is bullshit. They let his best players walk and have drafted nothing but busts lately

[@stevechitwood217]

They should have fired taylor....the guys on defense are the same as the ones let go to free agency....the defensive line is good...free agency hits the Bengals hard becauase mike Brown didn't want to give those player a raise,one that they deserved instead those free agents are stars on their new teams! They wanted to stay here we had the nucleus to beat the chiefs......not anymore good bye playoffs ....joe should go where they want to win ..but pay their players and keep the good ones and protect their quarterbacks

[@ronniedeatherage9557]

Within the next two seasons the Bengals will have the Chiefs playoff lives in their hands. History always brings things around full circle. Let’s be real they Bengals got hosed in a lot of games. #karma #who dey

[@MudtoyTT]

Broncos should have gone for 2, it would have been easier for everyone

[@TerryWidner-cd7he]

I feel chase brown should be released never seen someone fumble as much as he did I was very disappointed at least joe Mixon didn't fumble like chase brown has just being honest and no offense to chase brown

[@JoeyPownall-sk3hx]

something had to be done. scary though. there will be more dcs worse than lou hired than better than lou across the league. cincy has to get it right. same goes for all 4 coaches let go. easy to take a step back instead of forward here.

[@OldSchoolMinded]

Well luckily for us we can't get much worse than being the worst defense in the sport 😂

[@brokenarrowoutdoors2467]

Don’t sign Tee. Use that money to sign two really good guards. If burrow has more time in the pocket he can make any WR look good. Also get top tier edge rusher opposite Trey and that will make back end look a lot better. That’s where I’d start then draft one guard and edge rusher, CB and safety

[@micahhittinger6083]

That’s the best advice I’ve heard! It’s exactly how I feel. Tee is awesome but we don’t have to have him. Protecting Joe is way more important. I also feel Joe can make most any NFL caliber receiver look good if he has the time to throw it. More pressure on defense will definitely make the cornerbacks and safeties look better. It’s not all on them. If the opposing QB has too much time to throw the ball, most receivers will get open.

[@brokenarrowoutdoors2467]

@ I really like Tee I think he’s a great receiver and person. But there are to many holes to fill.

[@davidbutler9808]

Would have gave him another yr. “Armadillo”

[@TheAries323]

Fired everyone except the HC in charge who also sucks‼️🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Aldark22405]

I'm sure Willie Lutz on Twitter wants Robert Saleh.(LOL)

[@DottyMancini]

If Myles Murphy is “talented,” if Dax Hill is “talented” then where is that talent? These are career backup players. Where you are drafted doesn’t mean anything

[@LockedOnBengals]

Wrong lol. “Where is the talent?” Ask any player that’s gone up against them or any of their teammates 😂😂😂

[@DottyMancini]

@ what Competitive team would start Myles Murphy? Or Dax Hill? Joseph Ossai? They will spend their NFL days as substitutes. The best players on the Bengals defense-excepting Trey, obviously-are 3rd day picks, and probably wouldn’t start on average defenses

[@ChristoFreeze]

Need to fire the pocket book. It has not done its job since it took over.

[@victorpate24]

Gimme Coach Marvin Lewis as DC! The main reason is that he can talk with the FO/Mike Brown and get what he needs for the Defense.

[@BengalsFan2363]

Who is a better DC Lou or Marvin? They gave Lou his choice of the draft it was allllllll Lou. So thats been done and you see how that turned out for the Def.

[@lawrencepennington7396]

It's was time for a change,The past two seasons were bad on DEFENSE PERIOD!!!It's just wasn't working PERIOD

[@allwork1980]

FIRE ZAC TOO!!

[@Kenobi487]

I don’t buy it was Zac’s decision at all.

[@AlDay-n8f]

Have that defense needs fired?

[@kennethpayton6672]

It's bull crap I agree with Pollock being fired Zack Taylor should have been fired if anyone was the front office is the blame to for being cheap lu could only do with what he had to work with and Zack Taylor play calling is crap

[@davidd5712]

The problem with this team starts with Marvin Dot 2 (zac taylor) He's not a head coach. He's a wanabe offensive coordinator