NEW Ford Mustang Dark Horse: Why Everyone Hates The New Mustang

[@pokFryRicebich]

Price point is the reason why all Mustangs Struggling.

[@RobK-ri4rf]

It's the same for all sports cars, GR Supra is 57k, Mustang GT with Performance Pack is 50k, Nissan Z Performance is 53k, Dark Horse is 61k.

[@cljerjr31]

agree 95%, the other 5% would be blamed on inflation and the covid cash .

[@goblinzl1]

That cheesy wanabe transformers emblem needs to go imo

[@mr.majestic3851]

@@RobK-ri4rf Auto trader has GT with dual throttle body same as dark horse with handle pkg , 57k , 5200 less than dark horse

[@effingwrecked1917]

@@RobK-ri4rfOnly to be slightly better than the 5.0 GT? Nah Darkhorse not worth the money. Its just a upgraded GT😂😂😂

[@mikemet1744]

I couldn't be happier with my Dark Horse. 3300 miles of smiles. Have fun.

[@danielshepard7357]

Bet you wish you had my GT350 heritage HE.

[@mikemet1744]

@@danielshepard7357 Nope....keep it.

[@nycmaverick]

Dark Horse is just a sticker and badge package

[@CoffeesBlack]

the S650s are refined, people dont like it

[@danielshepard7357]

🤣🤣ok, I guess time will tell but I’m glad you like your car. Enjoy!

[@android-ud2nf]

We literally have complained for 14 years for ford to replace the mt82 transmission. Instead they gave us tech and finishes we didn’t ask for and added the tremec to a trim that’s unobtainable for most. Also while having more power the new mustang in real world use is slightly slower than the 2018 model. We got completely ignored. We also begged ford not to give us a tacked on screen like every generic modern car interior has but here we are. Got everything we didn’t ask for and none of the things we begged for. Then to add insult to injury they upped the price and the dang thing is now unacceptably priced. Fail.

[@danielshepard7357]

You forgot to add on and on purpose. Traitors!!

[@Frogsplash27]

I love the bigger screens. The part they did mess up IMO is not including physical knobs for the AC/ heating. You have to do it through the screen

[@WobblinGoblin1]

You are absolutely correct on all counts.

[@rrodrir78]

Have one and love it.

[@DH-hp7nv]

I will completely agree with you. There is absolute ly no need for all the tech bullshit. I hate digital screens and the oversized infotainment that I don’t hardly ever use anyway…. I would rather listen to the engine. What they have done here is atrocious with a screen that looks like some aftermarket shit that was retrofitted. And the tremec should be in all trim levels. Hell even ben is saying ford has shit the bed with the mustang.

[@juancarlosjc4888]

I absolutely love mine. Great great car. Super fun to drive, amazing sound, great audio system, super sharp breaking system, very nice magneride. Head turning machine. It's an intoxicating sensation to drive it.

[@weirdshibainu]

Let's face it...car prices are simply too high. Yes we all know that it's 2024, but when Ford is asking 101k for Broncos and Toyota is charging what they are for a new Tacoma with a 4 banger, it's no wonder people are sitting on the sidelines. Average car payments are now $ 735 a month, with truck payments approaching or higher than $1,000 a month. Hate to say it, but some days I'd be willing to buy a Chinese car if it was halfway decent and was 30k

[@Nav-z3i]

That's why Chinese are now the largest exporters of cars.

[@bullittboost6046]

An Ford answers with price increases for 25 Mustangs. Just priced a base model Gt with 3 options 55k before taxes/processing. That’s more than my brothers fully loaded Bullitt.

[@AarmOZ84]

Wow! And I thought the Bullitt was worth the price considering how many details were put into that car to remind you of the movie.

[@BubbaSimmz]

I paid 45K after everything for my 2024 GT. You got outrageous pricing.

[@waynek805]

@@BubbaSimmz They upped the prices on all the V8 Mustangs by about $2500 for 2025! He is talking about a 2025 and probably added on some pretty expensive option packages.

[@bullittboost6046]

@@BubbaSimmz Maybe it’s my area. I roll back about increases for 25. Ford made some options standard for 25. My mistake.

[@bullittboost6046]

@@AarmOZ84 My brother got a smoking deal. The lot had 2. Unfortunately I was going to buy other one, had 16 year on my auto policy scraped deal. He got 84 months 0 percent. Still cry everytime I see his car. 😎

[@salimrandall]

The problem is that at this price point, you can have a more luxurious, prestigious vehicle.

[@mfan2492]

What better performance vehicle can you get starting at 61k?

[@salimrandall]

@@mfan2492 Toyota Supra/ BMW Z4. Any further questions?

[@mfan2492]

@@salimrandall Neither of those have 500 horsepower. 🤣

[@salimrandall]

@@mfan2492 Jokes on you because both cars are faster than the dark horse regardless.

[@mfan2492]

@@salimrandall Only in your dreams!

[@konkombotis5549]

Thanks, Ben, for your honest review. Quite simply, if you are looking to track a Mustang, best buy a Shelby. If not, buy the GT with a performance pack.

[@scottgreene844]

Cars prices are out of control. You can’t squeeze blood out of a turnip and most people just can’t afford these vehicles. Beautiful car and would love to have one

[@derrickthegatorriverboat6993]

Jeez, that loading time was ridiculous. I've played PlayStation 1 games that loaded faster than that!

[@tomfromeyer6230]

This is clickbait. Majority love the new mustangs 🙄

[@RichGT350r]

I drove one to see what the hype was about... I’ll keep my GT350R. Thank you for the review.

[@House_of_Schmidt]

The s650 did not address any complaints by mustang owners and instead added even more downsides. The s650 didn't address the weight and in fact is even heavier than the s550. The s650 did not address build quality. The s650 did not address the mt82. Those were all the main complaints people had and Ford did nothing about them. On top of that, they added that goofy, slow screen which looks like it could be on a KIA and they dramatically increased the price. It's just not worth it. Then there's the Dark Horse which they made such a big deal about but in reality it's just a rebadged mach 1. Again not worth it. I'm an s550 owner for 10 years and I'm so disappointed because I was hoping to replace my s550 with an s650. I'll either wait or move away from Mustang.

[@stevemullins9487]

opposition car salesman here 🙂

[@bigmacmach1185]

I paid 60k for my 2021 mach 1 with the handling and appearance package. So glad I did and didn't wait. That screen is lazy and this definitely is not worth the same as mine....previous gen has so much more personality and there is no where near enough difference to make this better.

[@IncSpen]

Copium. The new exterior is undeniably better when placed side by side. Gt performance pack for GT performance pack the 2024 wins all day. I don’t own either and I ask people which one they think looks better all the time as I consider buying one. The answer is almost always the 2024. And yes I include a few Mach 1s.

[@jp23x]

Mustang MSRP went up for 2025. So comical, but this just means the discount will be bigger. Wait for the refresh at this point.

[@crazymonkey60123]

@jp23x what do you mean by refresh?

[@jp23x]

@@crazymonkey60123 Ford tends to save the real updates for when they refresh their cars. The 5.0 in the 2015 mustang was pretty much carried over from the previous gen, but for the 2018 refresh it was updated. The 2024 mustang GT didn't change much, so I'd expect big changes when they refresh it

[@Trek2539]

If they had a GT for mid 30,000 range I'd be excited.

[@cormaro13]

😂 too cheap , get more money boy

[@NS2651]

​@@cormaro13lol troll much

[@cormaro13]

@@NS2651 it’s not trolling when you actually own the car 😆

[@TurboBMRProjectLove]

you can get one for 40k

[@Itz_Rikku]

I've owned 2 2020+ GT500's , one of them being a CFTP and I'll say that i have no real complaints about the Dark Horse. Just picked mine up a few weeks ago, and so far so good!

[@nealryan82]

Shit I would take one. I really like the look.

[@OntarioGuy430]

It is a pretty looking vehicle.

[@gamelandDEZ]

My car loads up fine. The steering feels like a rolls Royce. And it’s faster than the past gen especially with the 10 speed. Womp womp😊

[@MR3DDev]

Its kind of annoying how much I see people complaining about the digital screen but when its mercedez or BMW with their huge screen its ok.

[@IncSpen]

BMW screen has 0 lag. I have a 2025 x6 and it would never do this to me lol. Had a 2021 Audi and never lagged both are always snappy. Still might grab the mustang but I’m mentally prepared for the drop in technology quality lol

[@MR3DDev]

@@IncSpen Lag I agree. Unfortunately they went with heavy flashy animations. I wish they a toggle for those

[@jay315-z5k]

Well I think Ford screwed up but can fix it for the refresh model. They nailed it with the looks and the power, but they need to get rid of the GT’s manual once and for all and give us a proper manual transmission. The infotainment/gauge cluster needs to be less laggy, but I like the idea. The steering just needs to be rebuilt by Ford from the ground up, like just build a better, more responsive, and more sports car like steering system. The last thing is that whatever price each new V8 Mustang is, reduce it by 10-15 grand and the thing will sell like hot cakes.

[@charleskinsley2590]

Is a n2/m4 a better manual buy??

[@irdriel7760]

or a CT4-V Blackwing

[@viziocamaro]

It’s definitely the price.. I had a 2024 Lt1 Camaro. I ordered it drove the car for 6 months. I traded it in for a truck. The truck was the same price and way more useful. I have a 89 firebird yes it’s a lot slower than the new spots car but it’s just as fun on the back roads..

[@dmfd123]

My screen loads immediately. I also had a 2017 and the new car is soooo much more refined. Yes, the steering feel is bad. It's extremely good looking though!

[@IncSpen]

I test drove a 2024 and 2020 recently. The 2024 felt heavier and actually a little underwhelming but maybe I set my expectations too high. Then the 2020 I was smiling the whole time. Maybe I lowered my expectations for mustangs or maybe it was just a better feeling car and more fun to drive

[@husshardan3511]

complains about the cheap feeling interior, but is ok with the rental car interior of the Toyota LC for $75K?

[@michaelnewman1151]

Love my Dark Horse

[@GH3TToR1CHieRICH]

Having fun with my DH it’s a blast

[@Otherwiseknown79]

Bought a used 2022 GT w/ performance package and a stage 2 roush package w/ supercharger pushing me at 750hp. I got it for $45k and it was already tuned up. Had 11k miles on it. I'm not paying $75k-$90k for a car. Look for those deals, they are out there.

[@CoffeesBlack]

I hit 140 with ease in my GT last week...i guess stability is now "numb"??

[@carterbishop2935]

I've never purchased a Ford product brand new but I really like this Mustang and would consider it if I didn't have my 685 HP supercharged 03 Z06 sitting in my garage collecting dust 98% of the time. She's been paid for, for 20 years and she'll smoke that Mustang on a freeway roll.

[@gregcrabill6538]

Aftermarket wheels and tires can make a car steer different and may not be matched to the suspension

[@mitch3448]

That is a decent deal. Fords by me want 65 for the automatic brand new and right now there is only 1 manual darkhorse on the lot new for 86....

[@Tgo_curt]

Not a fan of the classic cluster I guess I’m Alone on that one😂 love the car planning on hopefully getting one soon 🤞

[@88jimmylee]

Did you select the steering in sport mode . Maybe that was your problem

[@geraldbennett7035]

is this a 2024 or 2025 and is there a difference?

[@bleachandlean1307]

I like the s550s,s197s,new edges, and the original Mach 1s, and original fastbacks, these don’t look like mustangs anymore, their like the new edges, and the mustang 2s they lost the original look, I always found joy in the designs staying true to their heritage with the retro modern design, my s550 interior resembled the interior of the original mustang and feels almost like the inside of a fighter plane

[@gsdfan8455]

I do not like the headlights or the whole digital display.

[@seniorchiefkeef]

Handling pkg or no?

[@Prochargedbeast]

Ben you are right on with your assessment, it comes down to price and numbness of the driving experience. The gt350 and gt500 are better cars especially the GT350 it’s a pure drivers car.

[@oscarsarmiento9258]

Stop hitting the gym? Or start hitting the gym?

[@evancontos2267]

New Mach1 Time for a haircut!!!!!! 😂

[@MountainHobbler]

I'll take a 2SS all day every day over this.

[@EnigmaticRealist]

Can you showcase the voice commands next time? We haven't seen any videos like that just yet which may counter the lack of physical buttons. Thanks mate!

[@deanosborn3464]

I dont mind the digital screens, but I wish they would've integrated it more into the dash

[@michaelsheedy]

Uh, the Dark Horse comes with a Tremec trans, the top manual available. And you can still get the GT version with 480hp for under $50,000 even without rebates that are coming. And the EB Mustang is no slouch for under $40,000.

[@mr.majestic3851]

57k for a GT with handle pkg and dual air inlet

[@michaelsheedy]

@@mr.majestic3851 Remember, option packages are much cheaper than pricing out each upgrade separately.

[@darkherosolidox]

The s550 gen had digital gages. Infact they where baked into the normal gage cluster cause you could of just got the normal gages as well

[@dougwatson6406]

Not everyone hates it, and your title is one sided. I personally love it but everyone has there own opinion.

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

Why do you need steering feedback when driving at legal speeds on normal roads ? It is only useful when pushing the car to its limits on track, to be able to detect those limits. On normal roads there should be enough steering feedback to know the car is going straight just by feel, without having to look if it keep the straight lane, because that gets tiring (that's where BMW 2-series fails miserably). And nobody complains about that aspect of new Mustang's steering, which tells me it is acceptable for everyday driving.

[@airforceone6523]

The mustangs should have analogue dash screens because its a mustang heritage. However you can add a touchscreen or ipad which they did. Kind of ruinded the mustang feel with the lcd screen as a dash……..

[@williammustang5328]

Everybody I know absolutely loves the new mustang

[@TurboBMRProjectLove]

i love my GT Performance 6M. going to get a ford performance super charger for it soon - 800hp 😀

[@henrivm3559]

Most BS reviewer ever,. If you spend half a review not even driving it and only talking about small little negative points you don't know what the car is about. The purpose of this car is to have a track ready car with the N/A coyote engine that we love. And hell if you make the title of the video that negative for a really good car, then you shouldn't be near it.

[@273VIPER]

Probably the most reliable car in that dealership

[@tomgjonaj9965]

Love my manual dark horse. One amazing machine and worth it at MSRP.

[@WRXinthe410]

I miss my 2020

[@amyflanagan2896]

That was my favorite year model too. My husband traded mine in on his Shelby and bought me the crappy 2022 model. I just traded the 22 for the dark horse and compared to the 22 the dark horse is way better. The only thing I would love is if the dark horse had the 20's steering.

[@WRXinthe410]

@@amyflanagan2896 how's the insurance? Mine more than tripled over night for no reason. Perfect driving record for over 20 years. My 20 was almost perfect. All blacked out, lowered with track suspension. Only thing I didn't like is I bought the auto just so my daughter can drive it. Never again lol.

[@amyflanagan2896]

@BluRadoZ71 I have owned one or 2 Mustangs for the last 5 years. I had not owned anything other than a mom car since I sold my 88 Mustang GT when my first child was born in 98. One of my Mustangs is a 20 Shelby. My insurance went up approximately 70 bucks per month when I changed from my Mustang from a GT premium to the Dark Horse. Now, when my husband and I bought the Shelby, that was the sticker shock for us because it tripled then. Being a kid free home now, I don't have to worry about having a teenager on my policy. I can't imagine what I would be paying if I had one on my policy. 😬

[@WRXinthe410]

@@amyflanagan2896 insurance is ridiculous. I really miss them. I had a 16, 19, and 20 GTs

[@BigDelapJr]

Dude, with the steering, once you put it in Sport mode or track or drag mode, it changes, it is stiffer, more responsive....with that said...I bought a 2023 Mach 1 because I wasn't the biggest fan of the body changes.. or the screens..I feel like the new gen has kind of lost it's muscle look

[@michaelsheedy]

The Dark Horse has one of the top 0 to 100 to 0 times in the world. Your review is way off. Fantastic brakes and handling. This is based off many comprehensive reviews by reputable reviewers that have rung this vehicle out on a road course.

[@jwrice743]

The hood sounded 'cheap' when closing. Also, the dash screen should be about 1" less high. Lastly, can the aftermarket address the numb steering?

[@airforceone6523]

If i had to choose on outside design base mode. The mustang 2019 gt looks bulky, rough and tough. Front end looks much better than the refresh version of the 2021 front end. Even the gt500 2019 model looks better than the 2024 gt500 mustang. The 2021 mustang gt looks ok, but the front end looks out of place. The 2024 looks less aggressive and reminds me of a camaro base model ss.

[@eddiquettetv1253]

I respect your opinion, and everyone deserves to have one but you are completely wrong about the 2024 Mustang. I own one myself and I traded in my 2020 GT and it’s a game changer. Mines is going to be silver and black.

[@cesarrios4349]

I think people see the price and horse power ratio, the dark horse is more expensive because it has more teak add ons from the factory. Yea the GT has 20 less horsepower but again the track add ons

[@KenMcCune-wb3jp]

Ford mustang is a cool sport car l like it

[@johnjagodzimski2158]

Im sure within the next 5 years, the dashboard will improve in looks and structure moving forward. It's in its infant stages, most likely.

[@ellerybice3787]

Such wheels or very similar on Amazon, $300.00 +/- each. Yep! That is crazy inexpensive. 🙄

[@shizukodream]

The funny part is that the car I wanna get 🤣 but I need to the funds 😂

[@tommyistommy]

The price is insane, the manual GT with the mt82 should not even exist as others have pointed out. F bodies got a tremec in 1993 🤣🤣🤣 The dark horse package is offensively priced...its tires, brakes and some appearance items. The only real upgrade is the tremec 🤣 the infotainment sucks, the weight is outrageous, build quality is awful. Pretty sad that this the only v8 manual besides the ct5-v. What an awful death to a legacy.

[@EnderEnergy]

if you use those emojis you're like 9

[@tommyistommy]

@@EnderEnergy even at 8, I knew the mt82 was ass. On my ninth birthday I wrote this comment 🤣

[@ownedtoomanycars]

I usually hate clickbait titles but its kind of true. they are sitting for 6+ months at lots of dealerships.

[@Isovapor]

American muscle cars are way overpriced for what you get compared to European muscle cars. Americans interested in speed will just wait and save more money to get the Hurrican. Cheers!

[@mikeadams1287]

I don't understand why Ford only gave that car 500hp. 650 would've made a huge difference 😊

[@cormaro13]

I love my 2024 gt premium , no problems with the screen and interior wasn’t shaking like the 2023 and 2022 models I drove lol

[@jamesleasure8836]

Price. The Mustang is a wonderful car. But like so many, it has been loaded up with tech, racing levels of power, braking, and suspension. A far, far different mission than the original Mustang, built off of the Falcon platform to be an AFFORDABLE sporty car for the masses.

[@cwelch08]

the GT350's are super special. I'm not interested in the dark horse that much. Less horse power, too much digital parts. Analog is the way to go.

[@mattgeorge7127]

I don't see myself buying the new generation because of the screen(s). It's not just Mustang, but a lot of car manufacturers that are jamming in screens as an afterthought to compete with tech of evs. It would just cost too much or maybe it's not technically/mechanically/financially feasible to properly integrate it into the dash? Anyhow, i'm trying to find a 2022/2023 model for now, Maybe they'll make the Mustang a true electric vehicle in the future and not the bastardized version the Mach-e is, but the way that's selling and the ev market as a whole currently, i don't see that happening. If it does happen, it'll make the Mustang unattainable to most.

[@davedave2882]

Great price on that spec!

[@amandabathurst9538]

Hey nobody hates them

[@anonymous3738]

This is now the only American muscle car in production since the discontinuation of the Camaro and Challenger. But be grateful, Ford insists in keeping the Mustang and its V8 in production and will keep fighting with the government to do so. If it wasn’t for Ford, American muscle cars would’ve been feared to go extinct sooner or later. Also, the Charger was the only American 4-door muscle car and Ford has officially considered a 4-door sedan variant of the Mustang with the same powertrain; just a much longer body and rear doors. This means American 4-door muscle cars could be resurrected and stay alive as well for those who want both performance and room for the family.

[@enzodamu]

Your opinion is 100% subjective. Most think the car is awesome and far from boring. You're spoiled.

[@oceanrichardson4674]

S550 looks better than this generation and looking to getting s550 mach 1

[@Tsharetrainer]

You cannot have fun driving a Dark Horse at 20,30,40 mph. Watch other reviews on the Dark Horse and perhaps you’ll have more fun driving it and appreciation for this vehicle.

[@booboolips6053]

The car market is about 20% overpriced. Let’s see what the market looks like same time next year.

[@OntarioGuy430]

It's a shame they don't disclose why it was traded in. Some hidden gremlin in there that you won't notice until it is too late.

[@BenHardyCars]

Owner got bored of it

[@OntarioGuy430]

@@BenHardyCars I guess they should have bought a Bugatti - That Mustang would be like being bored of owning a Hellcat.

[@JackieHardy-m8j]

I call bs,no one gets bored after just 1000 miles​@@BenHardyCars

[@mikeicee]

1000 miles theyd lemon it to get 100% of the money back vs trading it in

[@Cali4rniadreaming]

Just haters that probably can't afford that's why can't say anything good i bought a 2024 premium PP with recaros seats 401A package the car is great and very good quality inside so that's that ! bye 😂😂😂😂🤑🤑

[@tomfromeyer6230]

That's exactly what it is. I have the s650 and love the vehicle.

[@ellerybice3787]

Imagine that dash screen after a few years, scratched, smudged with dead areas.

[@thomasprince7487]

DH is a bad ass machine. with a wipple SS its a greater machine.

[@Golith14]

Pre owned still at 60k is insane.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

There is no comparison to nyc best city in the world nice reveiw

[@gtojay9607]

I'm curious on what they traded for.. 🤔

[@phoenixraven1118]

Most people hate the new Mustang? Pulled that statistic out of your arse.

[@ElJefe360]

Nice from outside but ugly in the inside. Looks like an 80's car 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@EnderEnergy]

if you think it looks like an 80's car you need to get help

[@brandonzimmerman1667]

Everybody hates the Mustang? So all the people who do like the Mustang, secretly hate it? Interesting.

[@Derek-pq3zb]

7 manual 2024 GT’s sitting at my local Ford dealer for weeks-months…the 2024 is a flop IMO…I test drove one with the recaro seats…I agree Ben on the comfortability of them…I ended the test drive early bc I was squished lol. I previously owned a widebody scatpack challenger shaker manual. I’d get another challenger before I’d get a Mustang hands down…and the irony of it all. Ford raised prices on the 2025’s…

[@cormaro13]

That’s sad that you wanna be slower with a cheaper interior , nothing is more worst than uconnect 3 😂

[@leefoulds2569]

Price, and the big ugly screen is the problem with these new mustangs!!!

[@HDR20]

I am a mustang fantic. Always loved mustangs but dislike the 24 plus. It looks too much like the camaro and the iPad dash kills it for me. Maybe ford will realize this and make changes

[@lamontwaters510]

It costs too much new and these things plummit in price after about 5 years so you can now find a 2019 for maybe 30k. So it makes no sense to pay 60k for that.

[@truth959]

I hate the back-end. Looks weird. And digital gauges are just cheezy.

[@TattleDelta]

I don't hate it, it's just a disappointment lol. It has virtually zero steering feel and it just feels like a boat. It certainly weighs as much as one.

[@cardo1111]

It looks like they copied the outgoing Camaro Gen6 styling in terms of the exact hood mounted heat extractor and quarter panels. Has a great exhaust note, not a fan of the huge screen. More to go wrong over the long-term. For the price point I would prefer a new Corvette C8 1LT.

[@Gemini_Godhand]

The used price should be the max new price

[@EndofDays213]

Needs the handling package otherwise get a pren GT.