Electric Motorcycle: Suzuki SV650 Conversion

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Another neat feature that we forgot to talk about in the video is how the clutch is repurposed as a control for regenerative braking. Also, this motorcycle does have a fairing. It was removed for the event to show off the working components.

[@davidskeates547]

BenjaminNelson that’s a great conversion, nicely done.

[@pandaexpresso]

Ant BMSs are great..... butthey do have amperage flow limitations for sure. It's amazing that you went to the source and made your own custom board but kept their sensors and chips!!!

[@evjedi4061]

🏍 + 🔋 =👍 obviously excellent job. A true labor of love.

[@robertpowellj]

Thanks :)

[@thedon22z]

Awesome bro, the perfect example of another inspiration for building PEV's. 👍✊👍

[@AsantePE]

awsome project!

[@Mrs.Nicky1120]

im running the nissan leaf battery as well and they are the best batterys on the market

[@09hahug]

Is there eny video driving it?

[@gallopingg1]

VERY CLEVER YOUNG MAN, BRILLIANT JOB, UK

[@anibaldiaz-campos6015]

Is there a kit to do this at home?

[@tosheshdaulta8899]

Super bike. Absolutely super.

[@robertpowellj]

Thanks :)

[@InvokePerformance]

I love this build, im very motivated to finish my 15.kw drag race electric mini bike!!!! stop by to check out the build!!!

[@TheFlatEarthChannelcom]

You have a hub motor or belt driven system? I just built a YM 20kw hub motor setup and it beats fast. 120ah battery setup. The bike dc current is set to 260a. But I think I can push it to 300a. It’s a 4 second bike.

[@coolranchluke]

So cool! Any tips on where he got that front sprocket? Everything I try for the ME1507 won't actually fit a 630 chain (teeth too wide for the chain).

[@davidskeates547]

Benjamin the short video doesn’t do justice to all the effort and design, looks factory, do you have a website for the full specs and design logic?

[@UncleWally3]

Wow, I’m impressed. For all the customizing done on SV’s, Suzuki should have parted them out as DIY products.

[@johnemmons9087]

Pretty kool! I really wanna build an electric mini bike! I’m hoping to find information about it somewhere?! Thanx!!!

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

I have an electric mini-bike as a back-burner project. If you subscribe to my channel, you'll eventually see an update on it. Otherwise, take a look at a few electric motorcycle forums, there's always mini-bike builds on them. Try looking at endless-sphere.com/forums/ That one is mostly for electric bicycles, but has some great general info on DIY two-wheelers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eabGfKiDj96Wg80

[@denisrousseau9071]

nice bike !!! 3 d printed parts save time and look pretty good for "home made"

[@frederickbecinaencio8161]

what kind of battery is that?

[@TepcoCycleRepair]

My theoretical top speed is 350 mph i just haven't fully tested it yet..lol..I love theoretical top speeds.

[@Localroster3000]

What is a top speed this bike

[@Miniconimist]

Did I just listen to the specific history of a particular DC motor?

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Yes!

[@kschleic9053]

Serial number 0001 from Zero might be something to brag about in 10 years:)

[@Miata822]

@@kschleic9053 It's something to brag about today! Thinking about offering to buy before it heads off to ebay.

[@robertpowellj]

@@Miata822 It will never goto ebay!! when / if i retire the motor im going to machine a box for it and mount it to a wall!

[@Miata822]

@@robertpowellj Good call. Zero is making the right moves to be in the game long term. That motor is history.

[@johnnybunch6680]

And hook a alternator to the wheel where it will charge going down the road.close to perpetual motion. ...

[@kazoolordhd6591]

It's just drag on the system. Because of efficiency and friction losses you will actually go a shorter distance. Regen breaking is possible with some motors and controllers but it switches on when you brake to reverse motor polarity to charge

[@kschleic9053]

Very cool video!

[@robertpowellj]

Thanks :)

[@paulawestcott7228]

Have a gas street dual moto to transform into electric, its street legal,what about registration for this type of vehicle? Thanks for any teplies.

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Registration should be the same as for the gas version. Of course, specific motor vehicle laws vary from place to place, so double-check before you start on your conversion.

[@tv.aventurazz9186]

The motor you use, how many volts is it?

[@SniperSnake50BMG]

Usually you don't care to much about voltage. You usually can overvolt motors. But be careful with current so it won't overheat

[@datgio4951]

I can’t wait until the Yamaha dual motors come out.

[@harshkumarsingh08]

Can you help us building an electric bike for Motostudent competition? I'm currently a college student and I have team named Okami Racing DTU and we are building an electric bike for this competition. We are doing this for the first time and we lack experience.

[@andyheilmann1656]

I love the bike, but I'd definitely clean up the wires more before going the crazy speeds that that bike is capable of

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

And to be clear, the fairing was removed from the cycle to show it off. Robert also peeled away some covers over the batteries for me for a better camera view.

[@robertpowellj]

they are pretty clean, but i did have the fairings off for the show.

[@Miata822]

Cool bike but I am constantly... surprised? disappointed? with makers using unnecessary tech to make parts. 3D printed mounting components could have been made better/faster/cheaper from acetal or UHMW poly bar stock. Writing G-code and CNCing (then modifying w/ a hacksaw) a one off aluminum plate that could have been done (and then modified) manually on any mill. I'm not diminishing the cleverness, effort required, or awesome outcome of this project. It is a truly special outcome, especially considering that it began long before many of the conversion products around today were available. His BMS design is awesome. It's just that so many makers seem overly engaged with technical tools, pushing them into applications where traditional tools are more appropriate. (you can say "OK Boomer" now)

[@robertpowellj]

Bill Kerr, while I appreciate your input a lot of the pre work was done with manual machine on my Bridgeport before refining it on the cnc. Motor plate #1 that is on there now was all done by hand tools. (The cnc one is off getting powder coated).

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

I also think that everyone does their projects different based on what skills and tools they have. It reminds of of a story my dad told me once early in his career working construction. Back then, everyone used pretty much the same style lunch box - one on which the handle inevitably broke. Each tradesman always fixed his with whatever he had handy. You could tell a carpenter from an electrician from a plumber based on how the lunch box was repaired. A carpenter would fix it with a piece of wood, a plumber would use "plumbers tape", and an electrician would use leftover wire. My grandfather was a welder and also raised dogs. He had a huge kennel and the entire thing was made from rebar welded together!

[@Miata822]

@@BenjaminNelsonX Yes, to a man with a hammer every problem looks like a nail. It's just that after a career spent designing products I still find 3D printing almost worthless in the vast majority of applications. I've used it for prototyping plastic parts before investing in tooling so I am familiar with the technology. Makers would be better served I feel if they learned processes that can be used for real products. Sure, there are some applications where 3D printing is indispensable. Just ask SpaceX. Today there is a growing shortage of machinists operating manual mills and lathes. Having those skills in the labor pool is critical for the growth of American industry. These are the people who can prototype and repair the specialized industrial machines industry uses. We are losing that ability.

[@Miata822]

@@robertpowellj I have nothing against CNC machining and I'm glad to hear you have and use a Bridgeport. Saw your bike at FCL and admired it. Sevcon controller? Getting powder to stay on aluminum can be tricky. I always used wet paint or a wet electrophoretic coating process.

[@robertpowellj]

Bill Kerr no Kelly

[@jorgepizarro3327]

TAKE A SHOT EVERY TIME HE SAYS, "UMM" 🥃 Honestly though this is a great build💪🏾

[@theflyingfool]

Ingenious! The only bit I would consider doing more work on is the rear sprocket. It looks as though it could be significantly lightened.

[@robertpowellj]

Steve Roberts it could be but that was how it came to me ;) I’m not going to touch it. I’m actually going to re-gear it soon.

[@vidznstuff1]

I believe the reason for not modifying the frame is to be able to use the legacy VIN.

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Typically, a person wants to leave things as stock as possible for titling/licensing/insuring. You can change the driveline and other parts, but once you start changing the frame, you would have to get the vehicle registered as "Home-made" which can make it MUCH more difficult to ride legally.

[@SniperSnake50BMG]

The BMS is actually an ANT BMS. This little critters are are very affordable for all the fictions then come with

[@sksolaimanabdullah5076]

But the problem is you didn't show how the conversion was made. Need full instructions on how to make the conversion in a video.

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

This was just showing off a friend's motorcycle which he converted to electric. For a step by step series of videos showing how to convert a motorcycle to electric please watch this playlist: bit.ly/2AT7eOF

[@sksolaimanabdullah5076]

Thanks. I watched your whole playlist. You have described every details clearly!! It was really helpful!! Need an E-bike maintenance and troubleshoot video( Battery, controller, converter damage). Please make one.

[@michaelangelos5117]

I don't need to go 189. But, I can't drive 55.

[@dkongul]

love the concept, hate the goofines of the batteries.

[@quinnfoster4671]

Can I buy the motor?

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

You can contact the owner at: sv650e.com

[@robertpowellj]

quinn foster , let me think for a split second. NO sorry. It’s not for sale

[@offgridwanabe]

yeah hang on when you twist the grip.

[@frankz1125]

He uses our bms eh

[@offgridwanabe]

@@frankz1125 I noticed and he gets 600 amps

[@robertpowellj]

@@frankz1125 I heavily modified a ANT Bluetooth BMS to allow upto 700 amps (max)

[@frankz1125]

@@robertpowellj i heard. Im happy with the stock one. Im sure yours is great. Id like a custom 36s one with more balance capability. If you want to make one for me. We can talk about it.

[@frankz1125]

@@robertpowellj my house system is 120 vdc. Im switching to lifepo4 36s.

[@johnnybunch6680]

How do they get 50 thousand volts out of a tazer that uses two small batteries,,,it must have a capacitor...why don't you make a charger to recharge the bike out on the road.

[@grahambate3384]

Sorry, didn't understand wit batteries U using

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

The batteries in this electric motorcycle are Nissan Leaf cell modules.

[@garnierreyan2052]

Well he is a happy chapp

[@score-bike2155]

Super Suzuki pozdrawiam

[@1571777]

First thought was how are you going to put gas in it with that monitor in the way. Ha

[@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs]

I'll challenge him to a ride in the rain any day 😆 I think I'll have better range.

[@robertpowellj]

game on, i have plexiglass sheet's that box the cell's, then i have abs that goes over that and then i have fiberglass over that :)

[@jawz3102]

@@robertpowellj you did a killer job. I'm doing the same with a zx750...

[@pulesjet]

Looks like Nissan Leaf Modules ?

[@robertpowellj]

yes, from a wrecked leaf

[@pulesjet]

@@robertpowellj I have 12 of those going into my Power Closet soon. Limited to 25V Top of Charge is a bit restrictive but workable.

[@MultiRafael23]

4 years to built it!!

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Keep in mind that some people plan things put differently, only get to work on things intermittently, etc. When I built my first electric motorcycle, it was a summer project. Now, if I had all the parts lined up ahead of time, I could probably build one in a weekend.

[@howtookidsstuff2123]

Holly shit

[@PrincessUnicornSprinkles]

Isn't wiring your bike from scratch great.

[@KJSvitko]

All transportation will go electric.

[@tosheshdaulta8899]

Yes, but hobbyists will forever exist. People still ride horses for fun. Internal combustion will have its place as the feat of engineering they are. Transportation will be electric, but appreciation of transportation machines will be in all of its forms. From foot to even soot.

[@AndyFromm]

I doubt I see it in my lifetime

[@tosheshdaulta8899]

@@AndyFromm try to make it to 2045. We are going to hit the singularity by about then as well.

[@AndyFromm]

@@tosheshdaulta8899 better chance of hitting a singularity by 2045 than most of transportation being electric

[@JasonWW2000]

@@tosheshdaulta8899 What singularity do you mean?

[@1FishinAddict]

Can it run in the rain ? Lol doesn’t look like it with all those wires exposed. So it’s best a proof of concept, not daily functional.

[@BenjaminNelsonX]

Some of the covers and fairing are removed to show off the components at the event.

[@TheFlatEarthChannelcom]

4 years is too long. I built 5 bikes in 1 year taking my time. First bike took the longest to figure it out.