We Made a 200-Mile Range Battery for the Electric Ducati (Parts List Included)

The Electric Ducati giveaway has ended! But follow my Instagram @The.Inja.Official and get some cool stuff on www.TheInja.com! I appreciate all of the support after losing a bunch of money on this giveaway!
Today, Lord Curt shows us how to build a 15kwh battery pack for our 2002 Ducati Monster 750! This thing will be on the road before you know it. Next video we will be rapairing & wrapping/painting the tank and finishing the battery installation into the bike! Can't wait to show you what we got!!
PARTS LIST:
BMS: www.aliexpress...
BATTERY CELLS: s.click.aliexp...
COPPER STRIPS: s.click.aliexp...
BATTERY BRACKETS: www.aliexpress...
CHARGER: www.aliexpress...

[@1337mathis]

Ok lets just say. we all need a friend like Lord Curt. That dudes a legend.

[@TheInja]

The best of the BEST

[@davisbradford7438]

It's fun seeing someone regurgitate their battery build. I've done it a couple times now for people asking about builds. I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets into the weeds.

[@knowen87]

Amen

[@knowen87]

@@davisbradford7438 yes, the second that I get into even the basis everyone's eyes glaze over and I'm always surprised. I love this stuff. My first battery pack ever was a 4kw 72v pack. My advice to anyone is start out a little smaller don't do the inja pack as your first one even my 72v pushed me to my limits

[@troyderoinjr6926]

Couldn't have said it better love watching you guys work

[@chuck1011212]

I learned a bunch from the battery discussion here. I made my first 18650 battery for a Razor 72 volt dirt bike conversion and made a few mistakes that are explained here. I used low amp, high capacity Panasonic cells because I didn't know better and at 4 in parallel, have a huge amount of voltage sag when I ride the bike. I thought just due to the cells, but maybe also due to my wiring. I have some high amp output cells on the way and will do 10 parallel this time, but also focus more on the battery connections this time too.

[@TheInja]

Good luck! Glad we could help your project out!

[@MrYevelnad]

I learned so much about building battery pack with this video. I think resistance calculations about wires that connects batteries into series and parallels are one of most neglected topic among battery builders. And here the pack builder talks more about it more than any other battery packs builder that I watched. Kudos to him for being so passionate and doing a great job.

[@Levi_Allen]

Stoked for you guys. Love these long detailed videos. You’re going to love that hub motor combined with the available amps in this setup. Glad you won’t have to deal with the same battery issues on the cb. Those HUB motors are crazy powerful and wicked silent. Great design and execution on the battery Lord Curt! The fiberglass bottom was a nice touch. And the sense wires was nice and clean too. Will you run the entire pack through a shunt for monitoring? I like the idea of bypassing a smaller BMS for discharge. I’m still struggling with the space for a 2 phase charger on the bike itself so I can take advantage of charging stations. That would be so clutch

[@LordCurt]

It’ll have a gauge for the shunt included on the tank for monitoring!

[@LordCurt]

The difficulty of public charging adapters is way more than it should be. I’ll be looking forward to seeing you get that working!

[@keyelectric91]

Love how geeked lord curt got over the battery, you can easily tell he is proud of his work because he knows it's really descent!

[@danw1955]

That thing is going to be a torque monster when it's finished! Harley only wishes it could build something to this point of excellence!😁👍

[@davidgibson5756]

Watched this four times now. Took me a bit to figure the configuration. Very clever layout of the 8P x 32S configuration. Well done

[@Tekgnome.]

If they are running 32 in series (x 3.2v) wouldn't that be 102.4v? I'm guessing they are running 96v on the controller, and if so is going over voltage safe?

[@dalehall3110]

This will be a good one , 100 volts can't wait to see what it does. Lord Curt the man supplying the power!

[@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany]

Can't wait to see the build continue! This episode reminds me that I have to sit down and make my new power wheels battery. Going from 1800W to 5000W

[@tomkacandes8286]

There is no such thing as too detailed a battery build discussion. Love it.

[@JonathanBirch7]

Lord Curt is a mixture of Awesomeniss and Badassery. Keep on living your dreams. Regards from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@Badgermilk-zc2wy]

Battery looks good, but you forgot the cell level fuses. I would be very nervous about a pack this size without tesla style cell level fuses. You have a lot of faith in those Chinese cells!

[@TheRealAlpha2]

More like "Battery Lord" Curt! Geez, that thing is a monster it looks like it's almost as heavy as the bike before you removed the engine.

[@dave9456]

Good job Team Inja 👏👏👏 Talented Guys 🙂👍

[@ryanhudson4015]

I really enjoy this channel, you guys are really awesome! You too compliment each other very well, I think this channel will succeed because the two of you are in this together. You guys are like the goon squad of electric vehicles lol. It's a good combination keep up the work guys!

[@TheInja]

Much appreciated, Ryan! That's a huge compliment, the goonz are my favorite to watch. Love those two. (and pops, max, chief, Luna)

[@ianmangham4570]

That battery is a work of art, damn genius 😂🙏👌

[@69Dartman]

You just keep learning and making better and better electric bikes 👌 Lord Curt has put a lot of thought into building the best packs he can with the parts you get.

[@RestorationObsession]

Can't wait to see it roll!

[@TheInja]

Same!

[@LeRiderOP]

Damm, 180 pounds.!!That battery design is insane & needs a bow down 👏👏

[@blueeyes242128]

keeping in mind that there are several types of bms - single cell configs in parallel allow you to better take care of the cells but most of what i've seen about 10% longer lifespan - this also means more than one bms and a discharge controller (i've only seen them as hybrids with integrated multi-bms from oem or custom by a rare few) - on another note (and as with anything) i was reading about a lab study on lithium (i'm a pro batt and charger tech) before we start seeing it more on the industrial side and they found that LiFePO (i believe) cells are best stored in a dead state and that if they're stored in a charged state that is causes rapid degradation - waiting on the peer review to be sure but it's opposite for most all other batt chems - i'm my experience i would keep it at around half charge during storage and just top it off when you want to ride - lithium prefers opportunity charging so no memory effects

[@Toasta-Builds]

Nice build guys! beautifully constructed battery

[@coolissimo69]

The Ducati is such a gorgeous bike, looking forward for the next videos, Inja, and happy new year.

[@TheInja]

Thanks for joining us on another journey! 💯

[@jaaklucas1329]

Now thats a nice battery pack, great job and excellent build on the bike. Hub motor is the way to go.

[@racerx2095]

Wow that's the last thing l need to complete my bike I've thinking about building a battery if l could build one half the size of that my bike would fly 🤣

[@TechKnowCSS]

THUMBS UP FOR CURT. SUPER JOB. (I BUILT A 20S12P 18650 PACK WITH RECLAIMED BATTERIES SO I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES).

[@iamtaxconsulting9017]

thanks Sir, it's awesome .. thanks for knowledge .. i'm from Indonesia

[@miamibeachworkshop1143]

Love this build, super excited to see it come together!!

[@mz-pv9ki]

New inja video just makes me want to get to work on my bike, but those wait times are the worst for china parts :'(

[@TheInja]

Yeah it's a long wait for everything!

[@JariSiemens]

Curt is beast at building batteries!

[@TheInja]

He sure is 🔥

[@KM-wl1tp]

That Curt's a talented geezer

[@TheInja]

Nothing that old man can't do when he puts his ancient brain to it!

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

@@TheInja to the brits it doesnt really mean old

[@PigsTravels]

Btrpower sells some really nice batteries

[@bmwloco]

Ducati frames are beautiful. Hats off to Italians!

[@mateosoaresportela4529]

You could build basically the same battery pack with samsung sdi 94 ah batteries and it would be cheaper and easier to make. As a bonus it would be way more compact.

[@chandlerutubes]

I have an Electric Bike like your white China bike (mine is a Daymak EM2) and the 2 charger wires pulled loose and touched together, i replaced the charger port, now i can not charge and have no turn signals or headlights. The bike still runs and the dash lights up but will not charge... anyone know what could fix this problem? Dealer said i need to replace the entire wiring harness, i feel like that would be a pain to change out.

[@aaronfuksa2047]

So Were talking about a 12+ kwh lithium iron phoshate battery that weighs 160 pounds! Can not fit it in any smaller of a space, what a shame. I need this on my reinforced, moded MC wheel cargo side loader bike!...yet that is much heavier than the previous 7kw lithium ion battery, 100+ pounds. Need that solid bms setup for reliability this time. If it could maintains 30wh or less per mile then 300 to 320 miles on a discharge down to 20% battery left...exactly what i seek! Future plans while rubbing hands together. Very heavy indeed!

[@esk8Kyle]

I build my own liion battery packs for my electric skateboard! Lord Curt's knowledge of batteries is very impressive. Curious to know what his background/work experience is?

[@TheInja]

No formal education in this field. He learned it all from Google searching and reading/watching videos as we started our first battery upgrade a few years ago!

[@dukiemoto8676]

Wow that’s so cool! And good job giving Mr. Lord that sweet car. Okay Gents keep up the good work!

[@mikes6216]

Is some battery criticism welcome? Those cells need to be laser welded and NOT soldered because the heat damages the cells. This is even listed clearly on the sellers ad. Such a large battery pack divided into 3 parts- if and when you get a bad cell it is going to be a nitemare to fix. If you are planning to use the bike for the 5-7 year+ lifespan of the cells, the battery could be more modular. I am using these same cells for an ebicycle build and they are the perfect size. The cells I received had a piece of laser welded nickel strip on them already (cannot use a cheap spot welder on copper), so I can use a cheap $20 BIFRC spot welder to assemble the pack with more nickel. If I need to solder on some extra copper then it is a bit safer because I do not need to solder directly to the copper terminals. Amazing build overall, that is a HUGE battery. I learned some good tips from your vid, thanks!

[@natek3954]

How did you go about finding the batteries?

[@jayaznpride]

So what your saying, I should be able to charge my phone, jump start a car, shock someone's heart back to normal, and still make it to work?

[@LordCurt]

At least twice

[@distilledpusswater8473]

How much for the motor and all the electrical?

[@TheInja]

I'll add those parts in the description soon!

[@distilledpusswater8473]

@@TheInja thank you!

[@kidsjustbeingakid]

What rear wheel did you use?

[@bobbyheart9602]

You guys are awesome! 🏍️💪 Can't wait to see the next video. ❤️

[@TheInja]

Can't wait to show ya 💯

[@Leafyfpv]

Props! Great pack design!

[@JawadAhmadsahibzada]

Always love the detail video. Great job 👏 well done.

[@marcteleki2801]

What would be the cost for the battery finish? Thanks. Would love to convert my m109 r Suzuki wondering if you can transfer the motor to a shaft drive

[@peterpowers4851]

When he was explaining the battery set up he might as well have been speaking Greek. But it looks cool!

[@electricunipsycho]

Gotta love lord kurt

[@TheInja]

He's the best ♥️

[@robbja]

I'm loving THIS! YOU GUYS are inspiring me to build an ELECTRIC powered MONKEYBIKE! I'VE BEEN TORN - BETWEEN: BUYING A Honda Msx125/GROM OR Building my own "MonkeyBike-like" electric minibike! Ideally the minibike should have MonkeyBike traits like same dimensions as a MonkeyBike a range of 140-210 miles without being TOO HEAVY! I AM INSPIRED AND CURRENTLY AMPED!

[@D3monicus]

the ONLY thing im going to point out is that i wish it was possible to make the battery more aerodynamic and not look like a box attached to the frame but feel and look like its part of the bike itself, if you could solve that, it would be the perfect bike

[@lj516]

You really need to start top balancing. Put every single cell in parallel and then charge discharge a few cycles to exercise the cells. It doesn't matter for a YT video but anyone copying you is going to be very disappointed in battery performance. Great though process into the buss bars!

[@ChVovan]

Great job, and explanation of the process! Thx!

[@monstercameron]

Can you ask Curt if he has tried high capacity lithium supercapacitors?

[@mikes6216]

Supercaps cannot replace a battery, they are just like a turbo on a gas engine. They will help you when you start off and when you punch the throttle, and very quickly run out of energy. With the huge battery they made with 5C 15ah cells in 8P configuration, they will have 5x15 = 75 amps of instant power until the cells heat or start to age. Since it is 8P now they have 8*75amps. I saw someone say it is a pack 102V so multiply 8*75*102 to find the maximum watt output (62KW). Insane amt of power!

[@monstercameron]

@@mikes6216 I know what supercaps are, how they work and their use case. Notice I asked about lithium supercaps as this is never tech that has more energy density, not just power density.

[@TheInja]

@@monstercameron not sure which type capacitors Lord Kirk used on the CB. did you see our last conversion that had a fat supercapacitor on it?

[@monstercameron]

@@TheInja Yeah I did that's why I was asking haha. I think the last set were standard supercaps. I am talking about Hybrid supercaps from Eaton, LiCap or powerResponder. IIRC the voltage doesn't go to 0 like super caps so most of the capacity is usable and they have more energy density than supercaps -with less power density ofcourse.

[@monstercameron]

@@mikes6216 the question is relevant if you saw the previous build where Lord Curt used a supercaps bank as a possible solution to their controller randomly turning off.

[@tahahaider5836]

Whats the reason behind using hub motor? Also, put all the parts of the bike that you want to sell, on your website.

[@LordCurt]

There wouldn’t be enough space for everything in the frame otherwise! Plus it’s a nice motor

[@tahahaider5836]

@@LordCurt oh ho ho ho, lord curt the legend himself replying to me! It is an honor sir.

[@H1E500]

I can't see how to watch them in order, each time I click on a different link it says "previously"...Which is the first one?

[@napoleonbonaparte5774]

how did Lord Curt figure out the design for the pack?

[@jeandesrosiers5275]

Why did you use 8 smaller cells (8 X 15Ah) instead of using a larger 120Ah square cell?

[@paulnewman2000]

Did I get that right, its a 13.2 kWh battery pack?

[@LifeWithStiel]

Damn curt nice xmas present. What great brothers!

[@southendparaquest]

Can I have the engine? Funnily enough, I have an electric Ducati I want to convert to a petrol engine 😁 Joking aside, have you given any thoughts to the final drive as yet? May have mentioned before, but would belt drive be a consideration? Got to say, hats off to Lord Curt!

[@TheInja]

Go watch the first video! We showed all the components and plans. 12kw hub motor.

[@southendparaquest]

@@TheInja thought I'd missed one! Will do 👍

[@peters7413]

Nooooooo....Don't make a square battery again..😯... make a mold that looks nice and fill it up with battery's 😉

[@CarlosRomero-ve1ro]

hello great proyect

[@TheBestOrion]

Watch those cable temps. I'm not sure 8 gage is heavy enough. That's a lot of amps going through a relatively small wire.

[@LordCurt]

4 of them at each point! 2 gauge equivalent

[@TheBestOrion]

@@LordCurt don't know how I missed that lol good eye sr. I stand corrected

[@zakyvids6566]

is it possible for you guys to make an electric quad bike project too this build is awesome

[@toddnickb]

You would have gotten the battery more compact if you'd used a hex pattern instead of a square grid.

[@suntzu6122]

Which cells are those? The link doesnt work

[@theentertainmentzone8595]

Omg how u manage 273 cells respect. ,,🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@bibekmandal3718]

Hi sir love from India ❤️.I liked this project of yours very much. I also like to see it. I also want to make it. I want your help. Let me make a wiring diagram of all the components and a PDF file please sir.

[@Rachata_Saowapa]

Dynamite stick

[@chadcarpenter9742]

2.99 Harbor Freight volt meter...love the videos man!

[@MrGMawson2438]

Great work guys

[@oscarherrada3593]

The Ducati parts are being sold?? Where can I find the prices

[@youpigfacetv]

What's the spec on the rear hub motor?

[@chriswyatt9919]

Like your idea would like to make a custom chopper electric

[@EthanMitchell_YouTube]

Love what you guys are doing!! Do you have a bike frame you can recommend for an electric motorcycle build?

[@nassoraziez4975]

your content is soo inspiring, what you do is spectacular. nice. i wonder how you afford everything

[@vision3038]

how many batteries did you need.

[@orginyigam732]

Are those lifepo4 batteries Lto batteries..

[@bransonlariscy4660]

do you still have the gas engine for this bike, where you located and how much you want for it?

[@TheInja]

@@bransonlariscy4660 already sold it!

[@xpndblhero5170]

I'll never be able to buy stuff and get entered into the contest, and I'm jealous that someone is going to win this..... 😭 Good Luck Everyone.

[@b6s4shelter]

So Kurt is doing the heavy lifting then. Looks promising

[@TheInja]

For this giant section, yes

[@kevindavis3359]

Nice, would love some real time videos on the battery build at all the major stages

[@TheInja]

KZbin.com/LordCurt

[@TheInja]

He's got a full build video!

[@LordCurt]

I may even go live while I work once in a while!

[@ronymartejano3314]

What if the batter if hidden inside a fake fuel tank

[@coolranchluke]

Always astounds me how readily you guys are able to acquire batteries. When I order from Ali Express, it takes six months, and the batteries never show up. Get a refund, order again, wait six months, rinse, repeat...

[@paule5812]

I forgot that it’s a stressed member frame with the engine I know Lord Curt will figure a way to support the frame after the engine is out

[@jonathansmith4737]

Loving the content and ive been wondering when we would see the Ducati Monster again! Unrelated: I'm wondering from a marketing stand-point why you decided to create a new website for the giveaway and listing new merchandise on that site instead of consolidating the traffic flow directing everyone to your original website?

[@TheInja]

I actually didn't have my new website at the point we started the giveaway! But recently wanted to revamp my old website to potentially get some more support here and there for builds if people wanted to buy some stuff. :)

[@weedowsmoking]

Hello, very amazing project :), i wanted to ask, how and where to buy battery cells like yours or some other different? Im from Europe, i see alot of Americans doing interesting projects and getting different chinese parts etc from somewhere, but i dont get how and where i could look for them on internet. Are you ordering somehow direct from China? :) or maby anyone know how? :) Best wishes, mr. Cherepukaralius :D

[@juliandestroyer8308]

I’ve been waiting for this video

[@MrGMawson2438]

You lost me with all the cells 🤣

[@reddbeard2030]

How much for that engine. It may fit my RSV Aprilia

[@aspopulvera9130]

Is there any future projects you gonna slam that engine into?

[@williamwong418]

hei, you can ask china factory to do the battery pack for you instead of by yourself, just give factory the map

[@DmitrySerbin]

How much whole battery build cost you?

[@LordCurt]

It was about 1900 USD all told

[@DmitrySerbin]

@@LordCurt thanks lord builder

[@aalamk1000]

Dude u can open a shop where u convert gas engines motocycle to electric motocycle. It's a good idea🙃

[@telecomsuk]

CAD cardboard aided design

[@Zafor-ium]

You used a normal soder welder for the cells?

[@LordCurt]

Just a heavy duty 1 pound unit, but just a hot iron either way!

[@Zafor-ium]

@@LordCurt that's going to damage the battery's, no

[@LordCurt]

@@Zafor-ium depending on how you do it, you certainly could. I’m confident the way I did it did not with the size of cell and the speed of heat transfer

[@Zafor-ium]

@@LordCurt just realised your username, that pack is a monster! I've only build my self one for an ebike build using 18650s, learnt about enough to configure and build it. The way you laid everything out in the end, amazing.

[@nukenuked5749]

shame im in austraila i would love to take it for a ride

[@tlol4998]

Hey inja if u ever sell the white carbon fiber ebike you reviewed could I possibly buy it I have taken the bus or Uber for the last 2 years 2 get to work

[@TheInja]

Already sold!

[@tlol4998]

@@TheInja thanks for the response love your channel

[@d1e6om]

AWESOME video...I was wondering if you guys have checked out LTO cells. Please let me know what you guys think. Keep it rollin'!!!

[@LordCurt]

Great chemistry! Just lower capacity per weight and volume. Also expensive!

[@randommosaic7080]

Hi from India a huge fan here.... I don't want electric converted Ducati.... But can I get that ducati engine???

[@Darkness-ie2yl]

that would be hundreds of dollars to ship