2024 Honda CBR650R and CB650R (EClutch) Review - how does it work?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

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[@davidl9230]

this is what i like in an extra feature, the eclutch adds a feature without forcing you to have to use it. so many new features replace how things have worked for years, like the DCT. i see this being useful for those who have weaker hands, well done honda!

[@demonnick666]

Perhaps you should catch the bus if your hands are that weak.

[@TheCaretaker555]

It's not always because of weaker hands lol my bro went DCT because of not being arsed to gear changing to and from work and the sheer ease on touring what with cruise control etc

[@davidl9230]

@@TheCaretaker555 of course, i'm probably more concious of it because of my uncle who i ride with (he's 70). He has arthritis in his left hand from an injury. he's stubbon enough to push through the pain but would clearly benefit from something like this because he doesn't want a DCT lol

[@drippingout6154]

@@demonnick666 moped : 👀

[@ZeroXSEED]

@@demonnick666 People like you is the reason motorcycling is dying hobby. And I'm riding a bike for a living.

[@plotonapolonich5513]

Finally, a detailed review of the E-clutch in English! Been waiting for this one. Thx!

[@unfinished_sentenc000]

same :)

[@AnthonioChen]

Unlike some riders keep emphasizing how skillful people should be to ride properly, I really appreciate manufactures like Honda introducing more technologies to make riding more friendly and expand rider population. Operating clutch lever is not necessarily the fun of riding.

[@vincewilliamshortelano9404]

Ikr?, I'm new to riding, and I ride a burgman 125, and I hate the way "real riders" talk smack to my scooter, and how it's not a "real bike".

[@Neketre]

@@vincewilliamshortelano9404 I'm pretty sure that burgman will leave most of them in the dust on a back road. Any idiot can whack the throttle open.

[@jeremyclarkson-69]

It is actually the fun of riding for some people im not against e-clutches but they sure as hell shouldn't make it a standard,only a option.

[@AnthonioChen]

@@jeremyclarkson-69 Not sure which market/country you’re in. Our dealership sells both E-clutch and normal version. And e-clutch can be switched off anyway.

[@jeremyclarkson-69]

@@AnthonioChen I commented this before watching the full video and feel asleep before deleting this comment.

[@stevietrucker4631]

This is a fantastic invention, well done Honda 👏

[@danneoro]

Best and most honest review I've seen so far and I'm looking at CB650R for almost 6 months now. I'm sold on it, thank you mate !

[@RobertHiggins-gv5jc]

I already did a review on this and I'm back again I finished the video and I can truly say that you are one of the best I've come across....you have a lot of talent for this and I just had to come back and say this after finishing the video..... five stars...and for me to give that you truly have earned it....thank you so much for your time that you have put into this...also when and it will happen that a manufacturer gets hold of your content you are going to blow up bigger than most.... good luck five 🌟

[@erosqing]

Finally you can deliver Noodles with a CBR650R with one hand as you would do with a Super Cub. The day that every one was waiting for.

[@somatyk]

Mister Fitz-Gibbons is fast becoming my favourite reviewer. Affable. Good knowledge. Clear explanations and details things other reviewers don't come close to covering. Top notch. Not sold on the clutch, though. I'm extremely distrustful of anything using solenoids. Solenoid goes. New solenoid? Nope. New eclutch. The whole thing.

[@naustin09]

100%, except Simon would be a tie. The two of them are a great pair!

[@somatyk]

@@naustin09 Yeah, very true

[@ianwarren8316]

The attention to the details especially on a fairly technical launch like this is where Martin excels!! Thanks 🙏

[@DCHRAY12]

I'd say the E-clutch is probably the best piece of tech that has come out of Honda and I'm so excited to put my booking in at the end of the month! Great video!

[@naustin09]

It’s Martin on video and not just a disembodied podcast voice. Woot woot!

[@PhilbyFavourites]

I’ve had a DCT gearbox car for the last four and half years, it’s phenomenal. It’s never gone wrong, it works on inclines etc and has three modes from yawn, to sprightly, to oh my god. I would love BMW to bring out DCT on my GS, purely because the quick shifter isn’t the sharpest tool in the box. As for e-clutch, you still have to clonk the gear lever with your toe. After 47 years I’m happy to move on

[@FairladyS130]

BMW cars no longer have DCT, they have changed to a conventional but finessed auto.

[@mggarcia19]

How to wheelie on DCT?

[@PhilbyFavourites]

@@mggarcia19I learnt over 45 years ago that wheelies never impressed women, much as they weren’t impressed by handbrake turns in a Capri. On the positive side the unintentional wheelie I pulled on my FS-1E in 1975 (throttle stuck open) just missed the side of the bus as I dropped it on its side at the T junction. You can keep your wheelies for the chavs on the pit bikes - other motorcyclists are available and this does not constitute the view of the management

[@PhilbyFavourites]

@@FairladyS130but the 3 Series still only comes with indicators as an optional extra and usually never used by the owners……

[@rafaelcordoba13]

Honda has a patent on DCT for motorcycles. That’s why no other company can do automatic motorcycles 🤷‍♂️

[@The.JZA.]

It's funny that reviewers always comment about the vibration. I get it though. When you review a bike you are looking for anything you can comment on. I own a 2022 CB650R and honestly, I have never been howling down a windy road and thought "this bike is vibrating a bit" lol. I am way too excited and involved in the ride. It's a fantastic bike to thrash. It loves it. More! More! MORE! it wants you to rev it to the red line over and over. It's very satisfying. If you just dawdle around town though you might be better off with a twin with more low down torque but if you plan on taking it to the twisty roads, it's an absolute hoot to ride.

[@ericalger5003]

Why isn't this available on US Market bikes!!?? The E clutch on a CBR1000RR-R just might be amazing.

[@bikersquest]

I suspect the £100 is an introductory offer, I imagine this system is perfect for city commuters hopefully they add it to their 500cc range.

[@TagYoureItRO]

in europe it's 500e

[@fluxx7217]

I bet you everything that this will be available in every honda model

[@ZeroXSEED]

I hope they can get as low as 150cc model The centrifugal semi-auto can only withstand 12 kilowatt (~15 hp) which eliminates anything above 125cc bike.

[@noturbiz4670]

Definitely sold on the CB650R it has the tech, the look and the performance. Dealer told me I need to wait till the end of the year though :/

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Where are you based? UK dealers have started to receive them, so says Honda's PR team this morning.

[@Foxy-rj8yw]

Yeah I’m in us and would buy one right away but are they coming to the us?

[@noturbiz4670]

@@bennettsbikesocial Not based in the UK.. that's great maybe it will not take that long then..

[@whammo11224]

@@Foxy-rj8yw Should be in the U.S. in September 2024!

[@statikinetik]

Thank you Bennetts for this superb review of the new Honda CBR650R and CB650R. By far the best informed for teaching about the eClutch. I am upgrading to the CBR650R this week and have been looking for good videos explaining the eClutch in every detail, and now I found it. Confirmed Bennetts customer here!

[@atem8101]

Thanks for explaining I finally understand what it does! Seems like a cool feature.

[@mwng5186]

Nice review mate, well done. Call me old fashioned but rev matching going down the box is a wonderful part of finessing the bike....I for one love as much interaction as possible on a 'proper' bike I have an auto forza300 which I thoroughly enjoy but my others, well...i love as much involvement as possible.

[@xray809]

I just bought mine. E clutch work perfectely it’s amazing!

[@stuart150]

Having spent 25 years converting clutches to right hand operation, I'm really interested trying this....thanks Mufga!

[@jonparr1148]

I think this is a great Honda 'engineered' product and at launch a solution for a bike which fits a segment where as an inline 4 it is pretty unique. Opening up an up and down auto style change to engines/gearboxes without that option today, plus removing the need to even touch the clutch lever will give a group of riders (commuters, new bikers and those who find an all day ride with a clutch to operate physically difficult) the opportunity to enjoy biking. Be super to see it grow through the Honda range as an alternative to their quick shifter, I'd like to try it on Hornet 750 and possibly Hornet 1000 ?

[@steveparish9210]

Excellent test especially addressing the service and wear of e-clutch. You’ve got a new subscriber 😊

[@andrewlucas6214]

Brilliant overview of the bikes and the system. The one topic that never seems to be mentioned is clutch less shifting. It’s a skill I picked up years ago and once mastered, is just as good os a quick shifter. When quick shifters came along, I was initially excited but, now, I’m not sure I would choose one over full manual. E clutch looks like amazing tech but, adds to the potential of crippling service and maintained e costs after warranty has expired.

[@Mufga81]

Clutchless shifting is faster than conventional shifts, for sure. But quickshifters are faster than clutchless shifts because you keep the throttle open - I timed & tested this with an R1 and a dyno on Bike magazine in 2010. And Honda says E-Clutch shifts 20% faster than a quickshifter. As for "crippling service and maintenance costs", Honda's engineers told me the only difference is a little extra calibration work when it comes time to replace the whole clutch. Other than that, nowt.

[@dolphinride5157]

I can hardly wait to get this bike with the e-clutch if/when Honda brings it to the US market! I know how to shift with a clutch and will probably use it from time to time but I love having the option of getting a perfect shift, up or down, by simply using the shift lever.

[@ianwarren8316]

My previous bike was a nearly new 21 CBR650R (first big bike). I quickly bought the Honda Quick Shifter and fitted it myself, a fairly easy job, If buying a new one now I would definitely go for the e-clutch version. Having moved onto a bike with a good quickshifter/blipper for up/down shifts (Ducati Panigale V2,) I would have appreciated that on the Honda and at £100 with little impact on running costs or normal functionality, I can’t see Honda supplying many without the e-clutch! My guess is also that the £100 is barely covering the costs on this! Well done Honda!

[@903lew]

Oh I’d have loved to have that the other day as my hand was cramping up in stop/go traffic. Well done Honda for continuing to innovate, I’d much rather have this over a QS or DCT.

[@PsyKotyK]

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[@Al_Zidni]

I have a bike with loads of electronics and a bike that has the bare necessity, abs, traction control. I enjoy both. One lets me enjoy more on the ride, the other lets me enjoy the drive.

[@magpiemale]

Love the video presentation nice chap very informative and without to much jargon.

[@hiteshgujarathi4636]

This has to be best innovation we have in a while in two wheeler segment. I would really love to buy one of this even though I never owned or ride any sports bike. Not above 160cc atleast. Must appreciate Honda for making things easy for riders like me who can still buy big bike without worrying about all of this technical stuff and just up and down the gear without any tension 😅.

[@emersongo9147]

Thank you so much for your detailed review of both bikes you make it very interesting when it comes to explaining what the new e- clutch do , the cosyt weights and the whole shebang .Honda once again created a new stuff for riders to enjoy and definitely gives the riders choices when riding👍👍, more power to your show Sir and ride safe always, looking forward to your next upload😅

[@imadeeplyspanishman]

Fantastic insightful review Mufga I have my test ride booked for May 2 already, I tested the regular clutch model CBR650R a month or so ago along with a GSX8R and got on really well with the Honda so I’ve been waiting for the e clutch to arrive, big thumbs up to Bridge motorcycles help and test rides. 👏👏👍

[@slipperyweezel]

That would be quite nice at the lights when you cant find neutral so normally have to sit there the whole time pulling the clutch lever in.

[@chadridsdale9970]

Thank you for the very descriptive review. Very helpful. The best review Ive watched. Martin you're awesome.

[@LilBudaa]

Love the video! Thank you for the clear and informative presentation. I think this system would be perfect for Honda's 500cc range. Great invention, good job Honda.

[@user-iv6gl5np4v]

Thanks for the detailed review on the eclutch. I have a bike with DCT, and one with a quickshifter. The eclutch, for me, brings together the best features of each system. Question: if you were to take off from a dead stop with the bike in a high gear, would the bike still slowly accelerate away while dragging the clutch?

[@Mufga81]

Yes. It'll pull away from a dead start in sixth gear. It won't do your clutch any good, but it'll do it.

[@dexran.v]

Does anyone know if it's possible to convert the taillight from the 2024 variant to the 2023 variant? Would be really cool if it worked because I think the front of the 2023 looks better than the 2024 front :) Would be a good combination with the 2023 front and 2024 rear lights.

[@Neketre]

I'm a big fan of a lighter clutch pull, and one less cable to lubricate. I can see this being a real game changer in traffic as well.

[@jorelplay8738]

Man, the naked 650s are gorgeous. Even the exhaust pipes are better looking than cb1000r’s

[@Mufga81]

I love the CB's downpipes too. A nod to the CB400 for those who know.

[@duncancleverley6366]

Just my opinion (other opinions are available) but auto clutches, auto gearboxes, cruise control etc just take away all the enjoyable engagement of actually riding bikes… the more the bike does for you the more you are just a passenger which seems deadly dull to me.. as I say, just my opinion.

[@The1993luffy]

And you're not alone, I feel the same. I have nothing against security features like abs, but those "comfort" features take away the fun imo. I LOVE the engagement of riding my Bike, to feel that I have a big Control on how this Machine behaves just gives me something I don't want to give away.

[@ThePresidentofMars]

I agree with you except for the cruise control, i wouldnt use it all the time but if i know ill be on the motorway for a while, id like to just stick cc on 70 and focus on the road.

[@paulfarcas1514]

It's not an opinion actually, it's a preference.

[@stevemoores510]

Agreed!

[@ashraffrefinish1985]

It can be turned off and it's very helpful for those who ride as daily commuting.

[@The.JZA.]

It's a shame that Honda still didn't put an electronic throttle on this bike and give us a proper up-down quick shifter. I know some people will love this Eclutch if they do a lot of stop-start riding in traffic or if they have arthritis or even if they are a complete noob but personally I don't want this on my bike. It is the opposite of why I ride a motorcycle. I want to be in control, I want to be involved and I don't want this on my bike even if I have the option to not use it. It waters down the whole point of motorcycling for me. Also the cancer on the side of the motor is ugly so that's another reason why I wouldn't get it. When I saw the 2024 reveal of the CB650R I quickly ran out to get a brand new 2022 model that was sitting in a dealership and I am loving it. I got a great deal on it too. I think the old one looks better and has everything that it needs to be an excellent motorcycle, bar the up-down quick shifter.

[@gleam333]

cb650r is my perfect bike now.. wish they kept the perfectly round headlight though, perfect shape

[@jpimbuido2043]

I wish they did this in cars instead of the at and cvt. You technically still have control when you want to shift instead of the cpu deciding for you.

[@HLB2512]

Looked at the cb650 today, as in the market for a new bike. Love the look of it, just not sure I fit it correctly at 6ft and not a small bloke worried I might look abit big. How tall are you?

[@Mufga81]

I'm 5ft 9in tall and it fits me fine - hope that helps.

[@kn58]

Well well well. I was salivating over the new 600RR and here comes the 650R with E clutch. Decisions decisions hmmm.

[@Dara-ih6jq]

I hope they put it on the next CB1000-R I’m bout rdy to trade up from my CB650R. Had it 4 years now.

[@rizaldyreyes41]

Wooowww!!! Finally a sports bike for riders without left hand fingers 🤣👍🍻

[@huh0123]

Can’t wait for this to make its way to cars, the manuals will return en-masse probably then.

[@MaxHendrick-tk3xt]

I've tried every manufacturer. I'd choose Honda if I had to.

[@Grahamvfr]

Cheers N🥳Martin love the e clutch, I had a saab 900 turbo sensonic in the 90s, same idea, full manual box, but auto clutch ( no clutch pedal unlike the Honda). Unfortunately not popular, but i liked it.

[@andygreyriderGRN]

I would say it is similar to how the C50, C70, and C90's crunchboxes worked. You still changed gear but when you came to a stop a similar effect happened. Did you ever try finding neutral on one those? You have to very old like me to remember them! I just think the riding aspect is quickly being taken away from proper riding so, the clutch hand can hold a mobile phone, that you can view whilst riding with those transparent gloves you see riders wearing these days. Flip flops, shorts, t-shirts and an unfastened lid with no visor; Proper organ donor mode! Skin will be of no use for grafting onto a recipient.

[@eightballsidepocket]

With cable throttle, cable clutch, and a simple shift sensor, I see no reason this can't be sold as a retrofit with a piggyback controller for existing bikes like the 500 series. I think a large part of the 500 class would love to opt for this, myself included.

[@mervyoung5397]

I really like the look of the new CBR650R however, it’s the heaviest option in its class, which puts me off. If it was as light, or close to the Aprilia RS660, I would buy one in a heartbeat! I love the Honda tech though. Clever engineering!

[@jared123123]

For sure, Aprilia aside though it does have the most power in its segment . Also can’t beat an i4 which is the only one in its class. Either way honestly the weight is completely manageable . If your really needing to shed some weight to ride really aggressive your probably gonna want to lean towards the 600cc class anyways. Or even like a ninja400 , Can also shed some weight pretty easy. Full exhaust system shaves about 15lbs off instantly over stock set up.

[@esp_explorer]

Really good review. Fascinating new technology.

[@bachpham5357]

Can E-clutch adapt to final gearing changes? Smaller front sprocket or larger rear sprocket etc? I think that E-clutch uses input from the transmission output shaft rotation speed. If I want to take the bike on a track day and adapt the final gearing (which tbh is ridiculously tall) would I lose all benefits of the E-clutch?

[@credz911]

To car people, this is semi-automatic. Great bike and video

[@BabackSG]

So an advanced slipper clutch with an electronic component to assist down shifts.

[@iam_mono1892]

The naked is still a good looking bike, and has an excellent finish.

[@Zx6rBlue]

Whilst the e clutch looks like a great thing for commuters, if i get a cb650r it will be the 2023 version as i feel the styling looks so much better than the new model 😅 Btw, this clutch sounds a lot like the reclukse systems you can get for dirt bikes. Theyve been around for 20 years or more.

[@cydev8450]

for people who loves to ride a proper sports bike but in a comfortable way

[@donderstorm1845]

interesting. so effectively it works as a quickshifter and auto blipper. i love technology

[@petertoms518]

If I had arthritis or carpal tunnel, this could be a welcome solution. However the fun is doing all this myself. I also like driving trucks with manual road ranger gearboxes which is rear now so I’m “so” old school.😅

[@DNAtraveling]

But that's the point, you can do it yourself, if you ride it like normal it will be normal, But if you're in town, or just crunching miles it seems perfect to help fatigue

[@ragerider6283]

Interesting review. The E-clutch is a novel & clever thing but I don't see why I would want one. Especially when it adds weight, cost (minimal I know, but still) & just feels like an answer to a question nobody asked. I can see the application & how it could be appealing to some, but equally I just don't see the point personally. I would have preferred Honda to have focused on improving the suspension, brakes & making them lighter.

[@DNAtraveling]

See I don't see why you wouldn't

[@ragerider6283]

@@DNAtraveling I kind of agree....but I just don't want one at all lol. Can't fully explain it tbh. I guess it fixes a problem I never had.

[@DNAtraveling]

@@ragerider6283 once more bikes get it o am super interested A transalp or big cruiser bike , something to make town a bit easier, or touring.once you have been on the saddle for like 300miles, its easy to make mistakes after a long day

[@ragerider6283]

@@DNAtraveling Yes I take your point & can see where it could be useful, but currently not for me or the type of riding I do. Although, I don't have any issue with other people wanting it. I probably will one day too. I said the same about a QS & now I have one. I could happily live without it but it definitely has it's benefits.

[@DNAtraveling]

@@ragerider6283 don't get me wrong I don't buy new bikes , so I won't play with it for a long time 😅

[@MansfieldPestControl]

Fantastic, i've been gagging to see something like this prior to jumping in to buy 1. Currently i'm on a 2019 CB650 Neo with a Recluse clutch, as i only have my Left arm.....

[@RobDaKid87]

I'd like this on my rebel. I already have DCT because it's my absolute chill bike. That said, i wouldn't mind being able to choose my gear(with my foot) and see how that would be.

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

Nice review! Puts the CB650 R on my shopping list 😀

[@thedragon1322]

This is yet another option from Honda which I'm happy to see as I have limited dexterity in my left hand which makes clutch manipulation difficult and cumbersome. My question is, as a taller rider, how are the ergonomics?

[@toorak8565]

Can wait to get the new cbr with eclutch sounds awesome for town heavy traffic

[@samuraipizzacat2171]

I'm confused by the elaborate description. You say you can override what the bike "wants to do". So it does automatically change gears without using the foot gear shift? If not, it's in practice exactly the same as an up and down quick shifter bar the stopping and starting without manual engangement of the clutch. I realise it works differently mechanically than a quick shifter but is that basically it?

[@bennettsbikesocial]

Thanks for the question. The system effectively negates the requirement of a clutch but it won't change gear for you. It's the same manual transmission that requires the rider's input but you simply don't need the clutch at all for any aspect of riding. However, it is still available should you need/want it. Tight turns in a car park, riding on loose surfaces, or simply being there as a backup should a rider's old habits require! Hope that helps. Cheers, Michael M

[@vedanshdarmwal.]

Great video 👍

[@notachannel4u]

Those elevated crossings are made for you to slow down!

[@reverendhoover]

Interesting review Mufga, I like how open-minded you are to new technology. I've got a DCT NT1100 and I'll see if I can get a test ride on one of these when my bike goes in for a service this year.

[@mrcru53]

I know that voice! He’s one of those hilarious Poms from FEC! 😂

[@Mufga81]

"Hilarious"

[@Banditmanuk]

I really like this reviewer, nicely explained. I still don't understand why you would want an e-clutch? Doesn’t sound as smooth going down the box as a standard auto blipper. Isn't part of the joy of motorcycling the skill of clutch control? I wonder what class this bike would fall into if riding it on a motorcycle test?

[@Mufga81]

I believe it's classed as a manual motorcycle - my understanding is you'll need a manual licence to ride it. As for whether you could cheat the system by passing your test on an E-Clutch bike, demonstrate no clutch control skill in the process and still get a full manual licence as a result... maybe, I guess that could be possible. That's one for the DVSA to look into, I guess.

[@rafikshahnazarian7632]

Great review: And Great information 👍👍

[@LeeVernon-kt6cx]

I own A CBR650R with the quick shifter thats a great addition. I will say this about the Eclutch - first impressions is its a big ugly lump of metal sticking out of the side of the crankcase is what struck me initially.

[@MaxHendrick-tk3xt]

Looks better in real life.

[@carlosvejar3938]

Excellent review thank you

[@bengoel5019]

I am disappointed with the new visual of the 2024 model, the old "side pods" and tail were so much better! Also, not a fan of that black plastic on the tank which used to be paint. The new headlight also seems a bit droopy compared to the on-plane 2023 version. Seems like Honda is trying too hard to be "modern" for the sake of changing things. The 750 hornet also got this treatment and looks quite bad in my opinion.

[@jorelplay8738]

The old, round headlight looked indeed better than the new teardrop one

[@aneeshnaushad]

man that e clutch is adding some extra bulk to the bike. Need to be extra careful while cutting traffic

[@sidrolf]

Love the video! I really want this bike but I am 5'3/5'4 height, would it still be worth considering or should I stick to Ninja 400 territory?

[@davidreed9217]

Apart from down shifts (until RBW) , I can see E Clutch being better than Quickshifter as you sometimes don't get smooth up changing with Quickshifter. With E Clutch do you have to close the throttle on changing up, or does the ignition cut like Quickshifter?.

[@Mufga81]

You don't have to close the throttle to upshift. E-Clutch works with a quickshifter, which cuts fuel & spark to allow the next gear to slot in.

[@ChrisSauer-oe5ve]

@@Mufga81What about on down shift?

[@Mufga81]

@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve Like a two-way quickshifter, it's meant for you to shift down with a completely closed throttle. E-Clutch will, however, change down even if you have the throttle open somewhat.

[@chrislayley4838]

Thanks Mufga 👍🏼

[@judge831]

You can always rev it out. You're in 3rd. Downshift to 2nd or 1st. You'll be there.

[@camlong89]

They should make 2 versions one with and one without. I know you can disable it, but i don't want it at all. Less tech = lower cost and less things to go wrong.

[@bennettsbikesocial]

They do make two versions. Both the CBR650R and CB650R are available without eClutch for a £130 difference.

[@MrGeati6783]

I want this in every bike, not as an upgrade!.

[@AlfinoFr]

still curious on how the e-clutch will adapt as the clutch plates worn off and the biting point recess.

[@francisnamoro9255]

Its basically typical underbone(Asia's staple bikes) shifting such as xrm125 and the like, manual gearbox minus clutch lever in this case they left the clutch lever available still for some reason

[@gabrielzb4129]

Love the channel. So the E-Clutch does the same thing as a Rekluse clutch... with extra steps? I rode the MV with the Rekluse, and it was very good. Does the "E Clutch" have any advantage over the Rekluse?

[@Mufga81]

I've not ridden or tested a Rekluse clutch, but my understanding is that's a purely mechanical system working on centrifugal force alone. That would mean clutch engagement is linked just to engine rpm. And that would mean, for example, the clutch can't disengage when you're changing gears. E-Clutch, being electronic rather than mechanical, is able to have far greater and more flexible control over the clutch.

[@Grahamvfr]

At 7.31...im sure you know Martin lots of bikes still have throttle cables but still are fly by wire (my vfr12 for example)

[@Mufga81]

Sure. On those bikes (early Yam rbw systems were the same, I think) the cables from the twistgrip don't go to the throttles, but push & pull a sensor. On these 650s the cables go directly to the throttle bodies.

[@Grahamvfr]

@@Mufga81 Ah I get that, thank you 👍

[@bingoberra18]

How many times will someone come up at a meet and blip the throttle on one of these, and it takes off because it was still in 1st gear? It almost happened to me on my Rekluse KTM, fortunately I was in neutral at the time, but the dude could not have known.

[@beckst3]

If the eclutch fails, does the override also fail?

[@naustin09]

Is it a tacit admission that the far more complex DCT system is a failure - at least in so much as popularity is concerned? Despite marketing hype no one believes. Sales numbers are a function of forcing DCT models onto the show floor and discounting them heavily.

[@Mufga81]

No. Honda say DCT and E-Clutch will live side-by-side "in harmony" across their range.

[@rstrakovsky]

This would be brilliant on a dirt bike. I hope we see it on a CRF450RL

[@flamingdumpster9096]

Can you blip on the downshift to smooth the shift? Would that confuse the e-clutch?

[@cpuuk]

E-clutch seems like a no-brainer option.

[@JediCore]

having a motorcycle with self-cancelling indicators I must say that I really don't like the automated, "intelligent" systems like these. They mess up, are inconsistent and cause more issues than what they are worth.

[@stun_locked]

I don't understand why they won't release this in the states... I've literally been waiting for this bike for over a year just to find out they won't be releasing it here...

[@Firecul]

£100 is a great price. The question would be, *if* it breaks, will the parts to fix it also be £100 (or less)

[@splodge5714]

CBR 650R is a nice looking bike. I wouldn't bother with the E clutch, I've always enjoyed a bit of clutch control.😊

[@gudbread8523]

You can choose not to use it

[@davidsandilands1285]

E clutch, less wear and tear on the gear box compared with a quick shifter