BERETTA 686 SILVER PIGEON - ADVANCED REVIEW

Our Gunsmith does a break down of the 686 Beretta Silver Pigeon.
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[@kurjan1]

I bought one about 14 years ago. It has won for me every clay comp I've entered. About 5 per year... She's now retired. Still love taking her out now and then. Magnificent gun.

[@gerit1000]

Thank you for this great review. It would be great if you could do the same for Browning B525 ;)

[@vitof2177]

TGS is one of the best YoutTube channels. Great host, great content, and my go-to when I decide to research a new shotgun.

[@Guy9052m]

Hey TGS! Thanks for all of the hard work and commitment in putting together such great videos. I love your reviews and how nice is it to get a perspective from a gun smith as well as a hunter/shooter. I wish I lived closer. Cheers

[@charles938]

A great honest review. Can you do a video on how you grade wood? Thank you

[@Britishshooter]

Brilliant video explaining the mechanism of the 686. Very interesting indeed. I have owned lots of them but never needed to strip one down because they don't go wrong.

[@Paul-up3pb]

Thank you 👍. I have 686 Silver Perdiz 12 gauge, which I think is predecessor to 686 Silver Pigeon?? I bought it new maybe 25 - 30 years ago if, memory serves. I upgraded the wood on it later … looks sweet & handles nicely.

[@louiek-b6562]

Bought one of these a year ago, great purchase

[@scottdiller1893]

Jonny! Crushed it, thanks for the background knowledge, super sweet to see the quick and easy maintenance on the Beretta 680 series, appreciate the ease of use comments! 🤓

[@sanketshinde1142]

Mine is here! Gonna go pick it up tomorrow!! It’s my first gun, I’m very excited!

[@OleGad1]

I have my Beretta SP since almost 20 years. I jumped over barbwire, had it in -15degree Celsius and whatever else. I also submerged it once accidentally. It just always works. No cracks nothing. It just looks used....I love it.

[@tgsoutdoors]

good to hear, such solid guns!

[@raybede]

I love my pigeon 20 bore and wouldn't swop it for anything. Suggestion. Put some felt or green baize on your table when doing and maintenance, this would save stock damage.

[@danjamison3727]

Just traded my 40 year old 686s for a silver pigeon absolutely love it

[@TheRealAndyB.]

This is the only video in depth review abatible in KZbin. Thanks for sharing this amazing knowledge and tips. Respect

[@porksboy]

Bought one second hand years ago for half the price of new. Have shot it weekly for over five years in a shotgun league. Never let me down, I have definately improved my game with it. I knew that I could rebuild it my self if it showed wear. I clean and lube it and have had no problems. I would replace it with the same if I were to loose it.

[@davejones3923]

Could you do a review on the Beretta White Wing I just bought a used one and I really like it , but cannot find any reviews on any. Would really appreciate your opinion been watching lots of your videos and am subscribed to your channel. Regards from British Columbia Canada

[@michaelbosisto6259]

Pretty please buy a stereo lapel microphone. The sound makes it hard to follow your lovely accent. Won’t cost you more than $60

[@Christafro]

I've wanted one of these 686's for the last 3 years and in the last few months I've watched countless 686 videos on youtube including this one. Well today I finally went out and bought one and man I am so glad I did, 20 ga 28" barrels and I can't wait to get it out and use it soon!!!

[@tgsoutdoors]

Congratulations!

[@Christafro]

Thanks

[@STEVENSALLEE]

Love your channel. But throw that $ 00.50 screw driver away. 😊

[@pkutschman]

Great review! Your knowledge is amazing!

[@ericthatcher3462]

I shoot a lot of registered trap with my 686 and won't shoot anything else now. I have a Browning BT99 that I thought to replace the Beretta with for trap deciding to use the Beretta for Clay's and skeet. After a season with the BT99 I picked up the 686 again and never looked back The difference in feel and pointabilty was like going from driving an old pickup truck and a modern sports car. I'm left handed and my sporting 686 has a left hand cast stock that fits me perfectly. I find the look to be just right, too with a nice amount of engraving that isn't overdone or gaudy. I also love the oil finish wood stock that just gets better over time as opposed to the high gloss urethane finish on so many other brands.

[@paulsarah006]

sorry I cringe every time the gun hits the desk, and please don't use cheap tools that will damage screws and bolts heads love the channel

[@glenns7139]

Just back into shooting after 10 ywars away. Didn't know how to chose between browning b525 or beretta silver pigeon. So just bought both. Love them both. Keep up tje great work Johnny. Always informative and entertaining.

[@ismailak2771]

Bu av tüfegini kullandim randıman alamadım

[@buckshotaaa]

Ok, what are the differences between a 686 SP and a 686 EVO?

[@rjphilp]

I was told the berettas kick a fair bit harder than the brownings by a shop owner here in Melbourne. I'd love any thoughts, I've had one shoulder recon already and they are a damn sight more expensive than shotguns!

[@tgsoutdoors]

Not true, I don’t think. I have no evidence for this, but the recoils has more to do with gun weight, fit, bore measurements and butt pad than a brand name.

[@dolf3288]

And type of shot used

[@mchughcb]

The silver pigeon 20G is a sweet little game gun.

[@ashy1423]

Thanks for this great review including the negatives. An honest review is always important to have. I enjoy all your videos, keep them coming. Stay well. Ash 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@glynjones4425]

The first shotgun I ever shot was a sliver pigeon & for that reason alone I have always had a soft spot for them. Great video as always.

[@joshwilkinson947]

Me to, first ever clay days and for my first beaters day I was lent one. So for me, personally, they still have spirit!

[@randeeps40]

Great video literally answered every question that I had in my mind 🙏🏽

[@JorgeGarcia-hu1qj]

What is the max life expectancy of a 686 sporting? Trying to get an idea how many rounds I can expect to be able to put through it including rebuilds. Thank you, love the channel!

[@tgsoutdoors]

I have heard of shooting ground instruction guns shooting over half a million rounds

[@antonisx1277]

686silver pigeon 1 or beretta sv10 perennia 1?????????????

[@blackhillsrider2626]

Wow another great video. I love my Silver Pigeon..Keep up the great work.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Lou Fraulo Sr thanks for the comment

[@dantheman7370]

Same here lad absolutely love mine!

[@carlfrench6573]

Outstanding video and channel. I was recommended the channel by a friend and it has not disappointed me. Many thanks for so many down to earth, honest and true reporting. 👍🏻

[@edwardweiszbeck1649]

All your videos are top notch I must say. Haven't watched a bad one yet

[@remington351]

Enjoyed the video and review. Would prefer that it was in English though.

[@tgsoutdoors]

English from England yeh?

[@pim1234]

Bought one years ago, shoot it every week. Never fails me !

[@raybede]

This guy obviously knows what he's doing. We on the other hand can't see most of what he's showing us plus why not take that bloody sales label off the gun first.Thank you!

[@Lord-Snowflake]

Why don't you remake the video, then you can take the tag off.

[@luketomazic1018]

Hey John, my name is Luke I'm from Australia and Im a huge fan of the show. I own multiple rifles and Im interested in getting into clay target shooting. I was wondering if you could give me some advice, I've managed to shorten my list down to these 3 guns for my first shotgun and was wondering which you'd recommend most. Im looking at the Beretta Silver Pigeon I, Miroku Mk10 Sporter and the Miroku Mk11 Sporter. Im looking for something which is durable and well built, has some nice engraving and a good piece of wood and is a good shooter and also good value for money. Out of the 3 shotguns I've listed which would you recommend most ? I look foward to hearing back from John

[@tgsoutdoors]

Hi Luke, this is a difficult one, as we dont have the MK10 or MK11 here in the UK. They appear to be the same action as the rest of the Miroku range, so they would be solid. I would always lean towards the Miroku stable, although looking at what guns you have available to you in the range, i'm not sure if i would go for the same choices as yourself

[@luketomazic1018]

Hi John, thanks for you reply. So you would favor Miroku over Beretta given my choices and what would you choose from their range based on what I have available in Australia. I quite like the Mk10 because it has a grade 3 walnut stock, includes 3 interchangeable adjustable triggers and also comes with 7 interchangeable hi viz sights. My local gun store has said they can do it for $1870 compared to $2200 for the Beretta Silver Pigeon I.

[@thelongslowgoodbye]

The Miroku MK10 or MK11 is pretty much the same as the MK38 but was only for the Australia & NZ market.

[@damonslazyk8724]

Right on dude. I love my silver pigeon but I never knew much about it until now. Thanks for the info and the look inside my gun.

[@tgsoutdoors]

A Pleasure Damon

[@belmontstudios333]

The dude certainly knows his stuff.

[@tgsoutdoors]

He is also most definitely a dude

[@karlmurray4479]

As a new shooter deciding on a first sporting gun purchase,I am down to the B525 or silver pigeon 1 which I have shot both. Being 6ft 1 I find the Browning seems to fit and feel a little better. I intend to have a proper gun fit before I make any purchase or decision. Having followed your channel and advice since entry into the sport I wondered what your opinion/advice would be on this?

[@haromaster6086]

Had mine for years and absolutely love it.

[@steved9147]

Always enjoy your videos from here in the US. Suggestkon, use a lip mic for better voice clarity..sounds today like too much background echo!

[@jamesmitchell5853]

Thanks for making this review. You say you don't like some of the specific models that have been made, could you say which you don't think are up to the same standard as the rest of the 680 series?

[@tgsoutdoors]

The list of fairly long and fairly confusing as some model names have remained for years, the gun changing rather a lot. The silver pigeon one has changed a huge amount in its 7 year life span for example. The bottom line is that all of the actions are good so it’s personal preference as too which wood, barrels and engraving you like and whether the mixture makes for a gun that handles well

[@jamesmitchell5853]

@@tgsoutdoors thanks Jon that's really helpful. Hope to pop in to TGS next time I'm in the area.

[@cinnreds18]

The names vs numbers might be true in England. In the US however the numbers are much more recognized and used in shotguns. ..... 500,1200,870,935 and the list goes on forever.

[@harrymurphey2634]

... before the Beretta "680" Series ... they made the Model BL-4 ... nice O/U ... most 20 ga's where 6 - 6 1/2 lbs ... but I have handled one that was 5 3/4 lbs, fixed chokes but it will take a 20ga/3" shell. A very quick, light, hard hitting "field" shotgun ... (you have to learn to get your cheek down and touching the stock vs a "sporting Shotgun" ) Have you ever handled/shot a Ruger Model Red Label ???

[@chiosmet]

Greetings from Greece. New subscriber to channel, waiting anxiously more educational videos like this!Congraculations for this analytical review which is in my opinion the best review I have found on the net for my Beretta 686 Siver Pigeon S. My gun although has two different diameter bore barrels. The bottom one states 18.5 and the top 18.4. Is it common to Silver Pigeon S? Thank you in advance , keep up the good work..

[@tgsoutdoors]

Its not uncommon no, still not sure why they do this, but they do!

[@MuhammadTahir-fn3in]

What it prices in Pakistan.

[@Bouzoukiellas]

chiosmet it could be the “choke” on the barrels.

[@bartram33]

Just bought a 2010 fixed choke silver pigeon sporter for £600, no extras but a good sound tidy gun. I worked out that if I use it for the next 10 years then scrap it, it’s only cost me £1.15 a week. Happy days😊

[@jodylesniak2523]

need help explant the two red dots on the saftry please thanks

[@tgsoutdoors]

Two dots for top barrel and one for for bottom barrel

[@mitchd949]

Bought my 686 SP 1 Field (Game) in Sept 2020. I love it and use it primarily for trap, skeet, and sporting clays. The stock Beretta pad is total crap. I replaced with a Limbsaver pad and now it's perfect.

[@Scjon03]

I miss my SP1 Sporting. Sold it because need the money. Afterwards I got a TriStar TT-15 Sporting. I have absolutely no complains. It works, tight lock up and it patterns well. No issues at all. However that be my beat around shotgun and I just got a Browning Citori 725 30”. I was thinking about the SP1 again but I wanted try something different.

[@garethboyd8580]

Honestly, if I was marketing for Beretta I would take the negatives that were said in this review and print them on a full page advert in every magazine or website that had anything to do with a shotgun. It says a lot when the worst that can be said is that it lacks soul. I mean fair play, I get it. A 1911 has soul. If I’m buying a pistol to put in the collection then, yep, a Colt 1911 please! Of course, the other side of the argument is that, if it ever actually came down to it, I’d want a Glock in my hand… but I get it. BTW: somebody saying that there’s a social stigma attached to a Beretta over under because “it’s common” may very well be the most English thing ever said. Nah, I’m only joking! That was a fantastic review. Seriously appreciated!

[@robertpagel8951]

After 2 years of ownership and over 15k shells fired my SP1 sporting is still tight and has been trouble free. I keep thinking about upgrading but I always decide to just keep shooting it. In fact I'm thinking before this year is out I will have Briley make me a set of sub guage tubes for it. My only complaint is I wish it had a higher grade of wood. Fit, function, and reliability it has in spades. Another fellow on my skeet squad has over 30k rounds on his and he's only had to replace the ejector springs. Another gent I shoot sporting clays with claims his is pushing 50k trouble free. 686 action just works!

[@geraldswain3259]

Great video John, but I can see it now ,all the curious Beretta punters with the obligatory carpenters/electricians screwdrivers and vise grips etc,attacking the action with gusto .With the outcome being ,a degree in advanced butchery!!!.

[@tgsoutdoors]

We thoroughly enjoy guns in bags Gerald, trying to put them back together and figuring out why bits are missing is the highlight of our year!

[@drumhd1]

The Gun Shop lol!

[@colinyarde944]

good informative video, the price tag flapping about annoyed the heck out of me!

[@adrianobossio3767]

Hi. I love your channel. Thanks for all the informative info. Do all Beretta 680 series shotguns make a rattle noise in the receiver when shaken? My SPV and my SP1 both do the same thing? Thanks a lot.

[@romansivers]

You have a wonderful channel! I’m very lucky to have found you. Thank you for sharing a wealth of knowledge! Cheers from Canada!

[@Rodalmeida]

It's a shame that their costumer service is so bad! I activate the warranty 1 month ago and until know not even a mail I receive, is like they don't exist. Also the local represent of their brand has the same behaviour. the worst gun brand if you have a problem with your gun. run away!

[@warmahan8372]

9:40 Fully interchangeable parts I don't think should be undervaulued but it is the just he expected norm with most firearms.

[@williamhedtke6996]

Can you Get a 410 barrel for 28 gauge will if fit in with out gun smithing?

[@SamhainBe]

"Social Observations Upon It" - great comment!

[@HarrisonAuto]

Hi there, I recently purchased a 687 silver pigeon ii 20 bore. Haven’t found much information about them on internet. Are the rare ? Also can I shoot steel and all # field loads? Cheers from Canada

[@acemobile2497]

Is it possible to turn the ejectors off?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Indeed, but its not quick

[@LouKeppler]

Why not? Just remove the springs and ejectors, I suppose. Or trim down the springs for less power or clip even shorter for no strength.

[@acemobile2497]

I have an sv10 and that has a screw to turn them off, wanted to turn them off on my dads 686 (1989 model)

[@Stammerjohan95]

Watch around 15:00. Thats how to disable the ejectors

[@PLF...]

This is like watching a hipster talk about his macbook pro. And similarly, a bit of perspective could be nice.

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

What's a MacBook pro...

[@chrislentz9640]

I looking at a used bretta 686 special duck edition I believe, is it the same components as the silver pigeon? How much Cad do you think that would be worth used in good shape?

[@theshotgunscientists]

I know these come in 24 gauge, and I’ve talked to and heard of people in the USA that have them, but how do you get one in 24 gauge in the USA?

[@tgsoutdoors]

I think there was a limited run made some years ago, but I don’t believe they are in production any more. Best to keep eyes on auctions and second hand racks everywhere

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@tgsoutdoors thanks. I’ve got a 24 gauge ingle shot as well as a couple 32’s. Very cool guns. Just wanting a nice double in 24.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

I would never get a 24 gauge. Finding the ammo in the USA would be a nightmare. It is a rare unicorn caliber.

[@theshotgunscientists]

@@colt10mmsecurity68 so rare fiocchi and federal both sell ammo for it? It can be ordered on just about every big name online store. Some places actually carry 24 gauge in store if they know people in that area have them. Not every gun has to have a purpose. Sometimes you just have something to take out and shoot for fun every now and then. Like an old military surplus gun.

[@gerryohara6633]

Excellent review Johnny and very informative.

[@aaron72]

i picked up my silver pigeon last week so far i am really liking it

[@larrybaker9464]

Have a 686 20 bore with auto safety. Can it be changed to a manual safety?

[@payevhizmoney]

My new sp1 sporter came from the factory with some white stuff on the stock and fore end. What do recommend using to clean the wood?

[@antonisx1277]

Hello very nice videos guys!good job!A video for beretta sv10 perennia I??????

[@евгенийиванов-т1г]

For hunting mobilchoke or optima-choke?

[@simonbrittan1331]

What sort of money ( ball park ) are you generally looking at for a new stock for a 1992 silver pigeon

[@henriknilsson7851]

All of your vids are great, and honest! Such a refreshing change from the various gun mags that make everything sound almost miraculous! I suppose it keeps the paid advertisers happy… Had a chance to handle a new Silver Pigeon III? Are they particularly soul-less?

[@agentorange3698]

I know in England semi auto shotguns and pump shotguns are looked down on but what is the general consensus on single shot shotguns are they seen in the same light as a semi auto better or worse and are they common

[@sherkhan3448]

Where can I find an original 686 rubber butt?

[@allandobbs7059]

Sonthe comb is lower on the field model?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Usually yes

[@aduntoridas80]

Great video. You could remove the price tag, though.

[@danielking2615]

Are the 686 special just the same as the silver pigeon

[@paulmoloney3783]

Didn't they make a semi auto also called the beretta silver mallard

[@MrChrissy1r]

Shot with both O/U/ and S/S Beretta's for decades, never let me down . Minimal maintenance, ans use as a tool rather than a toy. Brilliant guns, to my mind the best,,And very very affordable.

[@monkatron]

Is the 686 special regarded a silver pigeon or is it the last of the hand finished 680 series? Would be nice to see a comparison of the 2 guns side by side to see what benefits hand fitting against the benefits of the more computer programmed details.

[@sonxdog]

What would you choose for s first gun a new silver pigeon 1 or a 7-8 year old mint 682 gold e??

[@craig6809]

Is there much difference between the 682 Gold E and 686 Silver Pigeon to justify the extra cost?

[@rob1399]

I'm way too excited to go pick up mine on monday!

[@rrvil]

I really enjoy the videos you guys are putting out, this one is no exception! Any thoughts of doing something similar for the Caesar Guerini Summit Sporting?

[@johnnyhonda4404]

I feel bad for the guy that bought this gun.....

[@Spiinken]

what's the lube uesed on the butstock? and what size screw is the one holding the stock to the triggerunit? Thanks in advance

[@georgeanaxagora1134]

Great video Great review..

[@voider78]

Awesome video. Just discovered your channel a few days ago and watched already many episodes

[@billflythe4092]

Excellent videos. Thanks.

[@deadhorizon6087]

Looks really solid considering getting a EELL diamond pigeon as a sporting/game gun

[@pim1234]

Have one, now saving up for a Paralello ...

[@mikehawk7734]

Just bought one thanks to your videos. Great videos and they really helped me learn a lot and also to help me choose an over/under shotgun. I have been hunting in the states for 40 years but never with an O/U. I have decided to give trap and sporting clays a go so I bought the Beretta for use in hunting and also clays. I got the Silver Pigeon 1 but am already thinking that I should have got the Silver Pigeon 3. I guess I should learn how to shoot clays before I worry about such things. Thanks for your videos and all of your help and information, cheers

[@giggergigger1]

Ejector s same as Baikal model 27 !

[@MrAlexander137]

Could you look at .410 Hushpower? Such an underrated gun and so bizarre but at the same time weirdly exciting.

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Hello, I get to shoot one tomorrow at the range

[@Epifani_Days]

A bloody good review, thank you 😊👍

[@wayneodom7562]

Wow, that NRA ad is awful.