Great, great review...you always do a first rate job and have many fans here in the US
@drumhd14 жыл бұрын
Steve D Second that!
@stog98214 жыл бұрын
@@drumhd1 third that.
@hb70304 жыл бұрын
@@stog9821 Fourth that. I just feel bad that they have to do so much to get one lol. I just bought a Beretta A400 Upland and it took me five minutes of paperwork and walked out same day.
@mmthakurthakur28973 жыл бұрын
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@rotortip13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I bought the sporting version off the back of this video as my 1st purchased gun. Absolutely love it. Started with an old side by side Ligano....what an amazing difference. Thanks again Jonny.
@darkazion4 жыл бұрын
TGS posted a video just as I was watching the presentation of Beretta - switched immediately!
@duncnz31294 жыл бұрын
The MicroCore pads are very good at recoil reduction , and the fact that various thicknesses are available is a easy way to change length of pull . The problem with them is they are fragile and tear/wear easily. Little chunks come out when and if the gun butt is rested on a rough surface , like the floor of a gun safe or a duck blind or any concrete surface .
@justineldridge32204 жыл бұрын
We grew up fishing so my basic knowledge of a gun is extremely limited. I absolutely love the fact I can approach these vids with the amount of (or lack there of, I should say) knowledge I do have and not feel intimidated or left feeling like I missed something (or a lot of things). This is an amazing channel, you just gained a whole house full of happy viewers. If you continue to post super helpful stuff like this We promise to share the heck out of it.
@bengardner52694 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one of these and only then came across your video. AND I shoot Comp X's! Always valued and respected your views and now feel I may have a gun to really look forward to! Thanks Jonny and team.
@Patrick_B687-34 жыл бұрын
I adore the SP3 28 small frame I bought in 04’ and I got extremely lucky on the wood. If you saw it, you’d never believe it was original. After many, many hundreds of birds, and thousands of rounds, it’s never let me down. As much as I love it, I have strayed from her, and tend to gravitate toward my S57E 20 Bores much of the time now. Amazingly, their frames are only about .004” wider than hers. In 20 gauge no less. The engraving on these 57 guns is heads and shoulders above all the standard 687 models of today, and they have charm and handling characteristics I’d say much the same about. It’s obvious they gave birth to the 680s but it’s a crying shame they quit making them. Going back a little more, the ASE guns put them all to shame. Enjoyed this review, new to your channel, and wanted to suggest much brighter lighting for them. No Idea why you’d review a gun in such low light.
@marcellomichel17694 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous !!! 500 Year Old Company !!!! Ordered Mine Today !!! Wont be here till Dec.24 th. Well Woth The Wait !!!! Great JOB ! THANKS
@littledaddynesbit41937 ай бұрын
...I bought a 30" Sporter last week. The wood is very plain (especially compared to my older Silver Pig Classic) but with a pair of extended LM Optima Chokes, I hammered a round of skeet and half-a-dozen sporting stands. Handling is outstanding.... really.
@mrmatthewjflanagan4 жыл бұрын
G’day Johnny. You should be very proud of your spot on the world wide Beretta release for this gun! Well done Fella!!
@Scooter-dm3qo6 ай бұрын
Purchased a 687 SP III Sporting 2 barrel set in 410/28 in 2020 and liked it so much I purchased a duplicate set in 2023 to have a spare for shooting tournaments. BTW, the Fit for the SP III is identical to the Fit for a Browning 525 Sporting. Shot my very first 25 in Skeet with the Browning. Unfortunately I found out that I was just too old to shoot a 4 gun tournament with a tubed 12 gauge, got to the last event, the 410, and shot a 23 on the first box but only hit 8 on the last box because I could not move the gun. Decided to go light and the Beretta has proven to the smartest gun purchase I've ever made.
@littledaddynesbit41936 ай бұрын
...I've had mine for about 5 weeks, 12G 30" Sporter, and I'm loving! The balance and fit are perfect and its so easy to put the shot on target...
@chrissywhiskers4 жыл бұрын
10:08 😎 Great tunes Sash and JC. Great review too! I’ll be looking out for the 20 bore for sure.
@ChristianRysgaard4 жыл бұрын
rushed off to see your review immediately after the press event. as always, you desperately fail to disappoint - thank you!!
@maxmusdan24844 жыл бұрын
A year ago I was in the process of buying a nice over and under for upland hunting in Pennsylvania, US (nice being subjective of course) and came across your channel during my research. Enjoy all the topics your cover from various firearms, gun makers, and subjects that will never affect me like hunting and firearm regulations in the U.K. Thoroughly enjoyed the Badger culling and should pheasant releases be regulated videos. I ended up getting a 20 gauge Beretta 691 field and except for the fore end being a a pain to remove I really like it.If the new silver pigeon 3 was available last year I would have scrambled to get the extra cash to get this model. It appears to me that with the release of the silver pigeon 3 and the redesign of the SP 1 that the 690 field series is becoming a redundant line. I wonder if Beretta will phase out the 690 field lineup.
@craigsusen55514 жыл бұрын
Man, your enthusiasm could be measured in metric tons. Love this channel.
@DFox-ud3gx4 жыл бұрын
Johnny those receivers are smashing love the birds and the engraving they come together.I have a 686 SP 1 sporter and yesterday morning I bought a 694 and what a difference the 694 is I own the B Fast model she's sweet and destroys clays .
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Great move - should dominate some clay grounds so that thing
@dankruger2890 Жыл бұрын
just got a 687 silver pigeon III Trap Special Combo - unsingle. For the price of $6,000.00 The gun is awesome. Highly recommend getting one. Shot 300 shells at doubles yesterday and today my shoulder is fine. Doesn't kick for such a light Trap gun. Beretta has Brilliant setup with a 32inch Doubles and 34inch unsingle and big blue carrying case.
@markbateman703 Жыл бұрын
I have a fixed chocked with 28 inch barrels. I think it handling is spot on. Love the gun.
@rhubarb0214 жыл бұрын
It's testament to the underlying quality of the gun that this latest model is visually indistinguishable to the S687 Game I bought 20 years ago apart from the steel proof and a slightly different fore end
@bobbyfisherUnbelivable4 жыл бұрын
Liked just from the name of the video! Really like the individual gun reviews and comparisons. Great work!
@colt10mmsecurity68 Жыл бұрын
The 687 also comes in a 26” version. Personally, I believe that 26” is the perfect upland game barrel size for a 12ga.
@sdriza Жыл бұрын
Agree - and 26" barrels here seem to be out fashion lately
@shirtlesslager4 ай бұрын
@@sdriza You will deafen your hunting mates in a blind. We shoot 32s.
@chrisraine74684 жыл бұрын
Would love more silver pigeon videos, really great work recently. It would be cool to see best sxs you can get for under 2000
@jimbobakabrutus123011 ай бұрын
Love this channel from eastern NC USA. I have hae one of these on order for a while. Should arrive this week. Can't wait
@Pipeafield4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Huge fan of the show here in the US. A multi Beretta owner. Keep up the great work!
@nocknload52874 жыл бұрын
This is a nice surprise, didn't know they Beretta introduced this gun recently and I was just at the Dallas Beretta store. I love my bird slaying 687 Silver Pigeon 2 w/32" barrels. Great gun and great video. Thx for sharing...
@ferociousfrankie4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for integrating field tests into your reviews.
@christaylor26424 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I just spent 2k I really didn't need to 😂 thanks TGS! Giving it it's first outing soon!
@billflythe40923 жыл бұрын
Great review Johnny....artful camera work....good humor....the music was excellent and the content was really good!
@melanthiosdemetriou753 жыл бұрын
this video made me pull the trigger;) i used a 35 year old beretta 686 which acted flawlessly. But i wanted something new and i bought this! Great gun!
@VinceWatches Жыл бұрын
I chose this gun before seeing your video. Now I am reassured about my choice and the amazing value of the new SPIII
@stanb9154 жыл бұрын
I have been on the fence about a new gun and the Silver Pigeon was in the running. After seeing this the new model might be the winner.
@dominiccampbell9474 жыл бұрын
They should have shown your B-roll footage (is that the right term?) of the disassembled gun on the latest Fieldsports Britain episode instead of just footage of a string of scared looking game animals by way of a teaser for this. Swing and a miss there Beretta. That is still a sweet gun though, I'd be keen to play with one! Great video as usual.
@adrianhurley39094 жыл бұрын
Lol....I didn't want another gun until watching this! I wonder if a fixed choke version might give the gun a little less forward balance?? 🤔
@b1gda14 жыл бұрын
I bought one off of this review! Thanks Johnny, my go to for the most detailed reviews. I bought an A400 black from an old review you did also... You're a bad boy!
@ctubridy2 жыл бұрын
Just bought one in 28 gauge and 28". Really looking forward to it.
@stevenbaker23634 жыл бұрын
Loved my silver pigeon 5 wished I hadn't sold it in 20 bore it looks as good if not better I imagine there is a 20 bore version great review 👍👍
@steveryal74464 жыл бұрын
A very, very good review. I have always favoured Beretta shot guns and was the proud owner of a 687 sporting multi choke quite some time ago, but the thing is, I am so sorry I sold it. I felt as though I was one with that gun and enjoyed using it so much. I used it mainly for clay's as I had side by sides for game, which I believe is what the sporting etiquete requires.
@simoncrooks74414 жыл бұрын
Thanks, grate review, you have at least one fan here in Fiji
@DrDankoff4 жыл бұрын
More mature review, filled with information without being a list of specs. Thank you. PS: love the new format.
@darksidecarnival53854 жыл бұрын
Outstanding review!! I thoroughly enjoyed learning about your opinion of this model
@BPFnSC3 жыл бұрын
Just picked up this gun because of this review! Can’t wait to get it in and take it out shooting.
@georgeanaxagora11344 жыл бұрын
Johnny I think is time to leave the old miroku 😊 Great video Great review great gun
@MrBenski814 жыл бұрын
You'll regret it!
@cinnreds184 жыл бұрын
I really hope you’re able to review a tristar setter someday. I think the entertainment value would be top notch
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
When America calms down we will be over and see if we can get our hands on some ‘luxury goods’
@sassoenator3 жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors When you say America, which of the 35 countries that comprises it are you referring to? Could it be the United States of America? Geography still important.
@BikeGunCarGav2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to give you an long term review of my ownership of one of these…90% great… I changed from a silver pigeon 5 (which is essentially a silver pigeon 3 with a sharp suit on!)
@BikeGunCarGav2 жыл бұрын
Just to add - I bought a new SP3, I have an old SP5 and so I wanted a steel proofed gun, and it’s been utter rubbish. Finish is peeling and flaking off the wood (the new gloss finish), the ejectors were out of time and the wood to metal fit is laughable. Also the new engraving looks good but feels rough and unfinished. Safe to say I’ll be getting rid of it.
@rudyelizondo19354 жыл бұрын
Ha great review, I really liked it, I wish I knew about it 2 weeks ago, I’d buy one
@ron55452 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I have to say though I much prefer the older style engraving over laser-etching. Sure, you can be more intricate with the designs but that's not necessarily a plus. I think a simpler design that allows for deeper, well-defined engraving gives the gun a classier look that's more in line with its old-world aesthetic. "Less is more" as they say. The newer design looks too 'modern' as opposed to something vintage. Just by looking at them side-by-side on the table it was easy to see which 687 was the older and which was the newer.
@khaleddz.4 жыл бұрын
You enjoyed shooting and I enjoyed watching since I can't get hold of the gun
@littledaddynesbit41938 ай бұрын
...one of biggest things I've noticed between the older Silver Pigs and the newer models (apart from the cosmetics) is the comb hight. The newer models are about 3mm higher ..
@jeanmorin32474 жыл бұрын
You have to make choices in life. When you have already made your choice, don't dream to be a bachelor again. It ruins everything. Your old gun was so good then, don't let it be diminished by a new particularly bright star walking across the view. That old gun is yours, and that's why it's better. The Pigeon 2020 is very nice, but it's for another man.
@jasongray98173 ай бұрын
Great review I just bought a sliver pigeon 3 love it so far . Just wondering what chokes you were using thanks
@piersmarchington4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cinematography
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
The legendary Sasha Novakovic at his finest
@piersmarchington4 жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors I heard Sasha Novakovic was so hard he beat up Jason Doyle.
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I heard Sasha Novakovic was so tough he thought he could take on Paul Childerley
@drumhd14 жыл бұрын
Piers Marchington Really great! Go Sasha......
@AliShooting4 жыл бұрын
You liked it because of the front heavy balance, that will make your swing smoother and absorbs recoil. Greetings
@sassoenator3 жыл бұрын
I just got one yesterday. Sincerely, the quality is not there at all. It looks like and feels like something made in the bad parts of China. I'd gladly sell you mine.
@AliShooting3 жыл бұрын
@@sassoenator hahaha thanks ,, I have 2 Perazzi shotguns.
@gregwright29884 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always. Do you think the 28” might balance better with the shorter length? Trying to pick between 28” or 30” in 12 gauge for a versatile-do-everything gun, primarily pheasant hunting and sporting clays. Advice/comments would be much appreciated. Thanks!
@martinwentz24723 жыл бұрын
Hi there, If I understand correctly, there is a shotgun: Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon 3 and Beretta 687 Silver Pigeon 3 (2020). or have I misunderstood that? greetings Martin
@darellkettley66224 жыл бұрын
Loved this one Johnny great video 👌
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@JudahMaccabee_3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and presentation. I wonder if it would be a worthy upgrade to my beloved 686 SP1, from a practical standpoint.
@grahammarshall9328 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m looking for a New a gun you just made my mind up on the687
@brianmacwilliams2764 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the Beretta Silver Pigeon 3 review. I'm in the market for a new trap gun and this is one of the contenders. The review information is good. Please don't assume that I know what your thoughts are, such as when you were talking about the barrels and manufacturing. Also, in the beginning your pictures of the stock and receiver are too dark. Otherwise as you Britts say "I'm chuffed to bits" with this review. Keep up the good work!
@ralphmazraani59254 жыл бұрын
When are they releasing it in the USA??
@brucechennell8604 жыл бұрын
All this technology being used to a good standard at last, let's hope other manufacturers start doing the same to push everyone into making better and more affordable shotguns and rifles. If this was added to you cabinet Johnny would it make you leave the MK38 behind?
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
It did turn my eye - with a custom stock of course!
@johnnyhonda44044 жыл бұрын
I love this channel! I have been thinking about a new pheasant gun. I have been going with the fear the man with 1 gun theory but chasing pheasants with a camo Super Black Eagle feels wrong. This gun looks awesome. I wasn't too fond of the wood on the SP1. I do wish it came with an oval like the older SP3. Questions: 1 - was this the 28 inch barrel version? 2 - is this currently or will it be available in America? 3 - is there a model number or something to make sure I order the right one?
@rotortip13 жыл бұрын
What a great review. Thank you for your insight. I have a question to you or anyone who has shot the 2020 silver pigeon 3 and the silver pigeon 3 sporting. Do they feel or handle differently to each other? I would like to buy only 1 gun and it’s the silver pigeon, but I prefer the look of the sporting. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
@huntergunchestercc39884 жыл бұрын
Brilliant gun and if you want the same brilliant gun but something extra lovely you can always go for the 687 EELL slightly better balanced too
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Just 2.5 times the price!
@huntergunchestercc39884 жыл бұрын
@@tgsoutdoors it is 2.5 times the price but in my opinion 2.5 time more lovely :) regarding wood, design and finish. If my pocket could afford the next level up to the S3 EELL i would.
@bunnybasheruk4 жыл бұрын
Nice gun, look forward to seeing one in the flesh.
@csamby16944 жыл бұрын
Had a order one 😢lol miss my 687 three woos a lovely gun Grass isn’t always better in the other side good video T G S and do you agree about moving forward the 690 three is lovely to shot and barrel technology does make a difference
@andrewhindle42914 жыл бұрын
Great video chap - only started watching your channel as looking for my first gun and what a revelation, and what a change from videos 4 years ago! I know it’s horses for courses, but as a first gun for only clay shooting circa. once a month with a circa £2k budget, this new Silver Pigeon or second hand 690 Grade 3/693? So many choices and a Sporter could be the answer but a local gun shop has this new field model at £1800! Cheers
@znewc143 жыл бұрын
I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of all of your gun reviews, great work! Have you ever looked at the Rizzini BR110’s field or light luxe?
@johngoody43224 жыл бұрын
a damned good review. looks a good gun. well done
@frozendawg93002 жыл бұрын
...do you think the 28 in. barrel would balance out the front heavy of the 30 in...I am looking at the 20 ga. in a 28 in. barrel for upland hunting...
@rudyelizondo19353 жыл бұрын
Great review, love it and it certainly looks great! Do you own one?
@manuelfp977 ай бұрын
Hi, can I use the 71cm sporter model for mix use, field and clay?
@timchuang10514 жыл бұрын
I just got a 686 silver pigeon 1 now you make me wish I should’ve gotten this instead
@eltonroberts88173 жыл бұрын
Does it hurt the gun to slam it shut? I've always been taught to hold the lever when shutting?
@dimosthenismagos79824 жыл бұрын
What about adding some weight inside the stock and balance the gun on the pin ? Would this make it any better ?
@nickallen54774 жыл бұрын
I have just ordered this little beauty in the sporter version, should be here early January, can’t wait. John would it be possible to review the new CZ Hamer classic, was thinking of adding a 12 g hammer to the collection and really liked the look of the CZ. Love the show bye the way. Cheers from Australia.
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Not a Model we can get here in the U.K. I’m afraid. Will look when we do our US road trip!
@geordieal81964 жыл бұрын
Love the vid fantastic gun but tut tut no safety glasses 🤭
@blackhammer74293 жыл бұрын
This or the sporter for an all round gun?
@TeensierPython3 жыл бұрын
Looking for my first dedicated clay gun. Leaning toward the beretta O/U. Now which one…
@michaelbyrne54283 жыл бұрын
HI TGS! so im from ireland and bought this 2020 687 s3 ! i have had it out a few times and am impressed but ive noticed the trigger gaurd wobbles side to side and the trigger the same but also front and back. they feel quite loose and its from factory! for a gun over 2 grand do you think this is acceptable or is this normal! is this a case on all berretas? its my first and to be honest ive been following you a years and youre reveiw sold me! ive numrous guns and hunted for over 18 years slightly un impressed! regards1
@mikemorse70582 жыл бұрын
You spoke of it being a bit front heavy. Would 28" barrels improve balance? Or is it more down to preference?
@Twistedoff2 Жыл бұрын
I'm considering one of these and have a couple basic questions about LH, RH fit. Is there a difference on the 687 SP 3?
@orion78734 жыл бұрын
You said it shot higher than expected, do Game guns generally shoot lower than Sporting shotguns ? I like to be able to put the front sight right under the clay and shoot... so should I stick with a Sporter ?
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
This is how this gun shoots. Bead on the base of the target and 💥 Might not be the best for more testing sporting clays but plenty good enough for having fun at the local clay ground and putting in respectable scores
@magicmechanic4 жыл бұрын
Does the wood come in multiple grades?
@johnnyhonda44044 жыл бұрын
28" or 30" for wild pheasants?
@chriswaller72604 жыл бұрын
Would you use that 30 for field gun or go with a 28 based on your personal height?
@peteacher524 жыл бұрын
The Silver Pigeon was a motor scooter released, I think, by Mitsubishi in the 50s and 60s, chunky-looking but very reliable. Reasonably common in NZ. So now you know . . . let's get back to shotguns!
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Worth a lot more than the shotgun unfortunately
@mikemason70313 жыл бұрын
@TGS outdoors Why did you take down the "old vs new" 687 III comparison video?
@tgsoutdoors3 жыл бұрын
It was in the members section?
@pim12343 жыл бұрын
Why did the silver pegeon 1 didn't cut it ?
@christopherhearell28373 жыл бұрын
Think they’ll reintroduce a new sp3 sporter version?
@h.f.bourlot88313 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very complete review. Being a beginner I have a may be a silly question, is this gun comparable with the Growing B725? Thanks again
@Jonsoh811 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering, I’m thinking about buying the pigeon 3 as my first gun for hunting. Due to the balance (but also size through bushes) I’m doubting between a 28 inch and the 30 inch barrel. What are your thoughts between the two?
@marcovanassen6 ай бұрын
Your review made my choice!!
@ShootingAndReloading4 жыл бұрын
Nice! How would you compare it to the 693 field which comes in at about the same price?
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Comparison in the not to distant future
@petyt84 жыл бұрын
Get it added to the cabinet john
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I am sorely tempted
@esccools3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean the 686 did not really cut it? Are the mechanics different? Or is it just looks? Please explain. I’ve been asking this question and no one seems to have the answer.
@dajusebox28934 жыл бұрын
So, is this same gun than 686 silver pigeon 1 30 inch barrel but just with better looks? Great review tho
@DanielSouba11 ай бұрын
No shooting glasses? Jonny, Jonny, Jonny!
@M.I113977 ай бұрын
Can i use the fiel version for trap or skeet
@marc27533 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a question regarding the forend. Is it correct that the 687 20 gauge is available with two types of forend? Thanks for your reply?
@petervang90124 жыл бұрын
Ordered one and it finally came in for me to go see it. Unfortunately, the one they sent me has an ugly lighter color brown which I would grade a 1 compared to this one. The other bad was the butt pad felt like foam and it was like glued on crooked. I was very disappointed, especially expecting it to look as good as this one...
@dannym85903 жыл бұрын
Just went to a Bass Pro Shops to look at it before buying and the 2 they had were just like the one you described. I will definitely not buy it online. Wood was not even close to the one on this review.
@dave_7244 жыл бұрын
The silver pigeon 3 reminds me the time around or just before I left school 10 years ago the 5 and 3 where the guns to have I remember they did a SC too which was just like the 5 but without gold birds
@tgsoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Was a good time for bereft back then, simpler range. Never thought I’d see the SP3 trumped in the beretta range again (£for£ of course)
@dave_7244 жыл бұрын
TGS Outdoors I think my next gun may be a Breda zenith I’d like to try one after your review the GMK berreta rep didn’t like me saying that the other day I have a pre 2019 SP1 I wouldn’t want to buy a SP1 now I don’t like the engraving the 691 I looked at when buying the SP1 looks the same berreta need more guns in the 3k-4K range or even less good quality of engraving laser engraving can look cheap