Beretta ASE Gold...Problems...Roger Pace

We look at the things to watch out for when we buy a second hand gun. Does it still have the fittings and tools that it originally came with? Does it look as if it has been well cared for. The Beretta ASE Gold is now at least 16 years since the last one was produced. Is it better to buy a new gun? It can be our pride and joy or an expensive lemon. Good luck and thank you for watching...Roger Pace

[@Huggerbear93]

Always good to see you Roger. I love your handywork.

[@rogerpace9322]

Tracy...glad you are well...still shooting i hope !!!

[@dalewarren6271]

Nice gun, I’ve got an old beretta s687 I brought as a first gun and I love it.

[@rogerpace9322]

Dale...and I bet it still goes well and reliable Stay well and thanks!!!

[@fullchoke01]

That's an interesting one Roger, i've never personally seen a barrel lump fail, but have seen many issues of cracked fore ends and damaged fore end irons from improper removal/attachment of it.

[@rogerpace9322]

Totally agree ...it surprised me...good on you ausgunner !!!

[@frenchyqbec]

Wow ! That cleaning rod is so sweet ! Congrats !!

[@rogerpace9322]

I love it! Luc it's too nice to use ...so I just use my old one...ridiculous hey ! Stay well and thanks !!!

[@frenchyqbec]

@@rogerpace9322 you right ! Keeping the accessories original makes the gun keep its value...

[@bollob9777]

Hi Roger, Nice video as always. Teague chokes are still made and are highly favoured over here in the UK. The metal walls of the choke are engineered to be thinner and they also do a titanium option which is much lighter than the original Beretta mobil chokes. I think people buy these to take the front end weight out of the barrel and shift the balance point back towards the action. You should compare the weight of your Teague chokes against an original Mobil to see if its different. If you need spares then I'm sure you can still order via the Teague website. Teague also sells a specific tool for removal/tightening etc.

[@rogerpace9322]

Bollo B...thank you...much appreciated !!!

[@blackbear9326]

Very nice purchase Roger. Happy shooting. Stay safe mate. 🇬🇧

[@rogerpace9322]

And you too black bear ...stay well!!!

[@danjamison3727]

My last gun was a 40 year old 686 with Teague chokes Purchased 4 extended chokes that I found much easier to change as the tapered key always concerned me incase the flush chokes stuck, great video as usual keep up the good work

[@rogerpace9322]

Dan...if i keep the ASE I would like to put extended chokes on it for the very reasons you mention Did the 686 come standard with the teague chokes or were they fitted afterwards...would like to know!!!

[@danjamison3727]

@@rogerpace9322 No they were aftermarket fitted by a previous owner and were Teague thin wall Stainless Steel chokes ( Their own thread) only came with two but I bought 4 more not cheap but good quality postage to you would probably cost more than the chokes

[@rogerpace9322]

Dan Would any kind of Teague choke fit on a gun that already has Teague chokes are the extended chokes longer than the flush fitting chokes?

[@danjamison3727]

@@rogerpace9322 Teague provide chokes for most makes, however they also machined fixed choked barrels to take their own choke I sent them a choke and they were able to tell me what was fitted, however I`m in Northern Ireland so the turn round was quick. The extended chokes were about 12-15 mm, need to check if your gun had Beretta multi chokes fitted from new

[@danjamison3727]

@@rogerpace9322 If you go into Teague site you can enter the gun serial number and they may have a record of your gun

[@GunPassion95]

Hello Roger? How are you? I hope you are good. ASE's seem to have these kind of problems also here in Italy as i heard. I hope you fixed the problem completly. Un saluto dall'Italia!

[@rogerpace9322]

Good to hear from you...yes...and I believe they also had problems with the soldering of the ribs ...but that was fixed in the later guns...stay safe over there in Italy

[@hypegamergig1785]

Wow... what a nice, handy tool for removing chokes! I have OB extended chokes on my 682 and already have second key being rounded and not biting choke’s notches. Need to try this hand made key 🙂. Mr. Pace, maybe you try Browning? Have had old school 525, build like a tank, durable like a tank, reliable as a tank, but unfortunately feels like a tank🙂. Just my 2 cents.

[@rogerpace9322]

Yes...those Brownings look good and from what I am told they are reliable...the trouble is i have a 690 and the ASE ...I know people have a lot of guns but i'm not going past 2 guns...anyway my wife wouldn't be thrilled...stay well and thanks!!!

[@umk5022]

Very surprised about that forearm lug breaking (I’ve never seen or even heard of that happening before), but even more surprised to hear that Beretta wouldn’t even attempt to fix it. If a regular gunsmith has the tools and equipment to do it, then I would think that the manufacturer (which also happens to be the oldest gun maker in the world) should also. Congrats on the new ASE though and glad you got your 690 back. Happy shooting and be well!

[@rogerpace9322]

Lloyd that's exactly what happened...i shot the ASE today in a comp and managed a pathetic 41/50 It's hard to shoot a new gun...stay well and thanks!!!

[@umk5022]

@@rogerpace9322 Eh, don’t be too torn up about that. Like you said, it is VERY hard to shoot a new gun and it usually takes many many many rounds to adjust and get used to the feel of it. It will come eventually though. Even shooting a different gun for a week or two to warm up for hunting season and then going back to my trap gun screws me all up. Keep shooting and be well

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you!!!

[@darrennicholas553]

Great video Roger, love them as always. After some advice, big shoot coming up next weekend. I was wondering if I should shoot the 4 days with my current gun or use a new one I haven’t shot much and am not comfortable with or have confidence in? Thanks in advance mate.

[@rogerpace9322]

Darren...my old mate...are you setting me up...shoot your current gun and leave your new gun at home...just like i'm doing with my ASE...good luck and see you at the State Carnival !!!

[@kennmurphy2201]

I am located in Arizona. I just purchased a brand new, never fired ASE Gold LH. So my question is, how to you remove or adjust the trigger shoe??? Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Kenn

[@rogerpace9322]

Congrats on a fine gun.... On my gun I have only adjusted the trigger back and forwards...that is easily done by pulling on the circular hole in the trigger mechanism...I have not removed the trigger group but there are clear directions in the manual that came with the gun...enjoy shooting it...it is a very fast very well balanced gun.

[@andret4652]

Hello one question why would you get a mid beed and adjustable stock if you shot a 24/25 sounds like the gun fits well? Just curious I’ve had my 682 for 29 years and couldn’t bring myself to alter its originality true piece of art, like all your videos thnx Roger

[@rogerpace9322]

Andre... as you know it's all about confidence but when i first got the ASE i was not shooting very well with it... the occasional good score but not consistent... I got the adjustable stock and midbead because... i believe...that without those things we conform to the gun instead of the gun conforming to us...but i understand your point of view...Stay well...and thanks for watching!!!

[@duncnz3129]

Those are nice guns , were the chokes fitted fitted after the gun had left the factory ? it is easy to tell by the markings on the barrels ,it will be marked MC on each barrel near the breach , or with plus symbols or o's or both , 2 on the bottom barrel and 1 on the top , if it is marked MC then it is a factory thread and you can get other ( extended) chokes from Briley or Beretta . I have used a tapered black rubber cork (bung) ,on a handle , for removing flush chokes without notches , the rubber will grip better than the plastic will . I have never seen a barrel lump come off a gun in 20 years in the gun trade . You did the right thing getting a swap .

[@rogerpace9322]

Dunc...you are a wise man and you know more about chokes than I do...the ASE came with Teague chokes so I am presuming that they were fitted after the gun left the factory...I like your use of the black rubber cork as I agree it will grip better than the plastic...but where did you get the black rubber cork...I would like to do the same...Dunc...do me a great favour...I answer every comment that I receive but I WOULD BE REALLY GRATEFUL if you would add your answers to the comments...the gun is now at berettas getting a mid bead fitted and an adjustable stock...thank you for getting in touch... stay well and don't make this the last comment !!!

[@duncnz3129]

Roger . I got the bung from a shop that sells home brewing (beer) equipment , it had a hole drilled through it , so was easy to fit a handle . I have also always preferred a mid bead . I use a steel mid bead not a plastic one , they get knocked off easily . We are all so different that I just cant see why gunmakers shouldn't fit adjustable stocks as standard , and non adjustable as a special .

[@rogerpace9322]

Dunc...thank you for the info...stay well and stay in touch !!!

[@herrmauser1066]

I would contact Nigel Teague and ask him for some additional chokes. They keep records of each gun they installed chokes. Order a choke key also. What are the issues with Beretta ASE? I found an ASE EL that was very pretty.

[@rogerpace9322]

The issue i had was that the lug that holds the fore end broke off from the barrels the guy i bought the gun from was very kind and changed it over...thanks and stay well !!!

[@duncnz3129]

Hi Rodger , now you have your gun back , have you looked at the barrel stamps to see if the chokes were factory threaded or done later ? Cheers Dunc

[@rogerpace9322]

Dunc...they are Teague chokes (UK) so they must have been done later...I would think

[@duncnz3129]

Hi Rodger , Teague make aftermarket chokes for most makes , so they dont have to be specially threaded by Teague . www.teaguechokes.com/chokes?aftermarket_choke=293&p=1 , the thing is if it is factory threaded you can easily buy extended or different restriction chokes . Cheers Dunc

[@rogerpace9322]

Dunc...the chokes have the gun's serial number on them...would that mean they are from the factory?

[@duncnz3129]

@@rogerpace9322 Hi Rodger ,I have never seen serially numbered chokes from the factory , I'd guess that some top manufacturers do numbering . that looks like a custom fit , not just picked out of a box and screwed in , but individually checked and fitted to ensure perfect patterns , but there should be marks on the barrels to indicate either fixed choke size or MC to indicate factory threading .

[@edward8194]

Great work Roger , just wondering is the another ASE Gold in 30 3/8 sporter around for sale or even sell me yours please ?

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad you like the gun. I am now very happy with mine.Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!

[@jrussk]

Roger you might want to sock away some inertia block springs for future replacement if they’re not too pricey. Maybe learn to swap them out yourself as well.

[@rogerpace9322]

That is a very sensible suggestion ...but i have always been hesitant to pull my guns apart...you are correct it probably is not that hard...good on you!!!

[@jrussk]

Even if it’s something you aren’t comfortable doing yourself at least you’d have the spare parts on hand.

[@Graham19951]

Roger, can you tell me the way to date a ASE gold please.

[@rogerpace9322]

Graham On the barrels there is a small square with two letters stamped in it...those two letters tell you the year of manufacture...i have a video called "how old is your gun" in that video there is a section on italian guns and it will give you the year for those two letters in the square...good luck and stay well!!!

[@Graham19951]

@@rogerpace9322 Thanks a lot, will check it out. Cheers.

[@edwardwatson6606]

Hello Roger what is your opinion now of beretta now Has the failures changed your opinion Doesn’t seem so as I see you got yourself yet another one I’m a beretta guy as well not sure if I would have stayed with the brand after 3 failures What are you thoughts on this Do you believe it’s you fault

[@rogerpace9322]

Edward...I love your question...so here goes...the failures have not affected my opinion of Berettas...they are a good reliable gun...and they stand by their product...dollar for dollar is there a better gun than the silver pigeon...3 failures in 5 years is not bad...I do not like to spend a lot of money on guns and so i stick with beretta because they are good value for the money...beretta have never charged me one cent for the failures of their guns...at a big shoot the people at the beretta stand will repair or service your gun free of charge...on the other hand Perazzi will charge you for their services...yes there are probably better guns out there...but yes I'll stick with berettas and no doubt you will too...please stay in touch and thank you for watching.!!!

[@edwardwatson6606]

Not planing to change from Beretta at any time love my silver pigeon 2 anytime Lovely gun 30 inch barrels She is now 13 years old belonged to a guy that I bought it from who never used it His loss my gain Well all the best with your competing your videos always very helpful Relevant Us armatures sports shooters

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you Edward and stay in touch!!!

[@alsaqernj]

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