Bergara B14 Stoke .223 Review (Part 2) - Accuracy Testing... BUT There's a Problem! [2024]

[@wimdeb1219]

fantastic review 👌👌

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@@wimdeb1219 thanks 🙃

[@jackalfirearms]

A good, honest review, it’s always good to see how these things progress, good work! 👍

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@@jackalfirearms thanks 😊 is a cracking little rifle 💥 just want to figure out what's causing the issues with Norma and Hornady ammo.. more out of curiosity given that the Sako 50gr shoots really well 👌

[@ItalianShooter01]

My Stoke in 308 is a very accurate rifle. I put the action in a sporter stock with an adj. cheekpiece, it is sub.moa with 5 shot groups. When i want to do some testing for accuracy i usually bring with me the torque wrench, different muzzle brakes, an air blower with a hose to cool off the barrel and different ammos to the range. BTW i bought the stoke because of your video, 20 inch barrel, 1:10 twist, i love it! Keep it up :)

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@@ItalianShooter01 thanks 😊 glad it's worked out well for you 👌

[@BergaraExtremeHunter]

I'm using the factory stock and the screw is down to 55 inch/lbs. The ammunition I shot hole in hole with the Bergara Stoke 223 was Geco Express. 3 shots 0.55 inch :)

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@@BergaraExtremeHunter decent that 👌 what grain bullet?

[@BergaraExtremeHunter]

@@jcprecisionrifle 56gr , 3314 ft/s , 1355 ft/lbs

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@BergaraExtremeHunter I'm going to try some more ammo and probably do a part three in the new year. I'll add them to the list of ones to try get hold of 👌

[@zoidburg3101]

I see a vision chassis, I click like. Good video as well 😄

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@zoidburg3101 thanks 😊 Vision Chassis are great 👌

[@mmc8830]

Not factory Norma ammunition but had a similar problem when testing some moderate hand loads in my .223. Eventually discovered that the issue was 'soft primers', the firing pin was punching holes in them.

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@mmc8830 That's one of my suspicions 🤔 I'm certainly more than happy with the performance of the 50gr Sako Gameheads though 👌

[@markus1245]

I have also tried many different types of amo, the only one that works is the ceco express 223. Bergara cannot build a 223. A friend of mine has exactly the same thing, nothing flies out of the Bergara except the 223 Geco express. I then sold the gun completely frustrated.

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@markus1245 mine has settled down a bit. Sako 50gr shoots nice. Havent had the time or money to test more brands yet but I might have to sell the .223 anyway to fund a new Rifle.

[@45forall]

To your primer strike issues: There a a bunch of things that may cause the issue. Primer cratering or penetration often comes from to thin firing pins combined with to large firing pin hole. While shooting your primer is backing off the brass (to the rear). If the gap is too large your primer cup will move into this gap. That's why some folks tend to bush their bolts for the firing pin. Too thin cupped primers may also penetrate or crater. Light primer strikes, the other issue you described, can also be caused by headspace issues. I once had a few 30-06 Hornady factory bullets that didn't go off in my bergara b14. Measured them at home and found out that the ammo was headspaced too short. (looked at the CIP charts). Really nice Trainer rifle you build! The the precision issues would really anger me. Did you try shooting it without the moderator? Because it's quit long and won't benefit you with its mirage (as you already mentioned). Awesome video! Already waiting for part 3 🎉👍

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@45forall thanks 😊 I haven't tried shooting it without the moderator for groups since it came back from being tested. But that could definitely be an option going forward to stop mirage effecting the groups.

[@wantutri7225]

i know you dont want to spend any more money but i highly recommend the Cortina Precision EC Tuner Muzzle Brake. it’ll tune the ammo to that barrel real well.

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@wantutri7225 my intention is to always use this with a moderator. I may look into a Tuner/Mod combination though thanks 👌 At the moment the Sako 50gr shooting a Sub ½MOA group is plenty good enough for some plinking and hunting 👍

[@brianduffy5193]

Just not a fan of military type stocks, but what you personally like is up to you

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@brianduffy5193 I think there's a bit of a misconception attached to chassis' that they are militaryesque.. they're just modern design and materials with up to date features.

[@bullbars1822]

Is the brass length all the same? Bullet seating within tolerance?

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@bullbars1822 yes as far as I'm aware. I have just found a forum thread with someone having exactly the same issues with Norma Tip Strike as I am with an entirely different rifle in the same month I purchased mine.... maybe it is just a dodgy batch? Two get a dodgy batch of both Hornady and Norma would be a massive coincidence although it would explain why the Sako is running fine and there is no consistent pattern between ammo manufacturers

[@adamparker9765]

For starters ditch the Bipod on that hard surface . You can see from your scope cam how much its bouncing around every shot and different from shot to shot . Get a sand bag and watch it start grouping .

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@adamparker9765 👍 tbf I hate shooting off of benches too. Would much sooner go prone for groups and properly load the bipod without it sliding around.

[@tomconachy2877]

They were terrible groups shot at 100 yards. Did you check was the barrel bedded and was it floating in your new chassis . My Sako 223 puts three rounds in a 3/8 of an inch group at 100 yards. My barrel is floating and bedded in the original stock

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@tomconachy2877 Yes it is free floated. Certainly the 55gr Sako wasn't great but the others were acceptable over 3 shots and the Sako 50gr at a .2 MOA group is pretty good. So I wouldn't say they were 'terrible'. The 4th and 5th shots i *think* are going to be largely down to the mirage from the moderator

[@afternoondelight6322]

Can you fire steel caae out of these?

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@afternoondelight6322 I can't see why not.. but the same as always steel casings could cause damage to the chamber so should probably stick to brass

[@jaegersuisse]

yay buddy🎉

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@@jaegersuisse how's your Vision Hybrid build coming along?

[@jaegersuisse]

@@jcprecisionrifle it was finish (tooked the same stock as you did) but chassis in black. i put my own grip on it, and made a bergara 14R in it with the b-tuner vom vision on the troll. was great to shoot, but its sold and now i am waiting on the new production. also the pro chassis including the b14 bullbarrel in 6.5 is sold.. so i have no visions now.. ;-) i plan to do the next protject in a nice green (MOSS or so) and another hypbrid chassis comming as well. but will take it also in fde that time.

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@jaegersuisse ahh yes I remember now!

[@jaegersuisse]

@@jcprecisionrifle if you once are in my region let me know.. i want to give you some protype grips for your hybrid builds.

[@beavism305]

Accuracy seems kind of meh to be honest. I wonder how it would go with 69-75gr bullets.

[@jcprecisionrifle]

@beavism305 yeah not the greatest of sample sizes unfortunately, but it does seem to like the Sako 50gr over a 3 shot group and I do wonder how much the mirage was then effecting 4 and 5 shot groups. In time I will try some heavier rounds as welln, now that I know it was the previous rail causing the original accuracy issues.