"BERKS LIKE GARY LINEKER" Heated Simon Jordan & Danny Murphy debate following Son/Cavani VAR scandal

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[@rolfvaughan4085]

I'm 53 I've been lucky enough to have seen the great days of football. Now I hate the modern game.

[@ycymrobach9012]

I’m 63 and totally agree with you.

[@keightonjelly4694]

Exactly the diving makes you sick have you seen Lacazette diving for Arsenal?

[@arejaycee5484]

No real men in the game anymore

[@hermandadams]

same here ime 69 and the whole concept of football is completely woke its about every thing being politically correct with no passion or continuety

[@keightonjelly4694]

@Party Vegetable exactly it is haha they don't need a ref for Lacazettes games they need a life guard

[@gmantv7813]

Remember when di canio caught the ball when he could have scored, Fowler against arsenal saying it wasn’t a penalty , that won’t happen nowadays

[@adeko8578]

That is why you remember those incidents. They were rare and far between.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

"Fowler against Arsenal saying it wasn't a penalty" before promptly trying to score it you mean? He could've tapped it across the floor to Seaman if he was so outraged lol

[@gmantv7813]

@@Matthew-bu7fg great penalty wasn’t it lol

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

@@gmantv7813 i mean it wasnt a great penalty but there are definitely steps he couldve taken if he was honestly so remorseful! 😉

[@gmantv7813]

@@Matthew-bu7fg Yh the latest gesture was probably bielsa ordering his team to let a goal in shows of sportsmanship needs to be shown more especially in the world we live in now

[@jun3078]

just look at bellingham goal vs man city, he stayed on his feet to put the ball in and it gets chopped off, had he dived ederson would likely get sent off. its the rules that make players dive

[@nicknewman7848]

Interesting.. "it's the rules that make players dive".. I would add that it's also the culture of gaining any advantage over your opponent. So it's about rules.. and culture.

[@vogahl34]

Simon is without a doubt the reason I give this channel a chance. Brilliant, impartial and straightforward, an example others should follow but only very few can lead.

[@ryans756]

I'm not sure why, but I read your comment in a Bruce Lee voice. It sounded much wiser as a result.

[@pauljones4056]

Jim White questions honesty of football players when he refuses breath test for drink driving!

[@anthonyhall549]

He's vile

[@vinnydurham8964]

I didn't know you could refuse a test

[@anthonyhall549]

You can refuse a roadside test. The only trouble with that if you don't supply one at the nick you get charged for failing to provide a breath sample. In some cases you can get a longer ban for that.

[@AldershotDave]

The guy’s a knob!!

[@gregod806]

He's a drama queen.

[@davidflavell1868]

Berks like lineker 🤣

[@Benjo-mv1gz]

Haven’t heard Berk in a long time 😂

[@mattthompson3714]

@@Benjo-mv1gz I heard it the other day... It was my dad ranting on about something, probably me 😂

[@robertstephen7140]

Love it. Cant stand old jug lugs

[@dickslaughter2]

First time i agree with simon 'vitriol' jordan

[@stevenhowe6677]

Lineker is a complete PRICK, these 'woke' people will not be forgotten.

[@djspacehopper8728]

"The world is full of lemmings". Spot on Simon. And thats also the problem with the world Danny....people, especially those in a position of power, are more bothered about money than integrity and truth.

[@davetherave9222]

Spot on. Been like that for hundreds of years and will be like that until the day the world implodes and c@nts like Branson and Zuckerberg will fly off in their spaceships blaming all of us 😆 i laugh but you mark my words.

[@robbragg5712]

Lineker not happy unless he is centre of attention.. geezer needs fade off into retirement gracefully .. good player terrible geezer

[@nathanmoore7120]

@@mattevans5201 don’t need to do that to know Lineker is a muppet. He is a deluded virtue signaller

[@PaulLfc-ml1bj]

You're a muppet mate

[@mattthompson3714]

@@Daniboi971 Correct... He's only doing to remain relevant though

[@mattthompson3714]

@catfishale asad Where's the video of his pet refugee?

[@mattthompson3714]

@catfishale asad Not anymore, no!

[@TheJayMarsh]

Going down over that is one thing, but to stay on the floor for several minutes and need medical attention is laughable. How he's not in trouble for simulation is beyond me. This is the reason that diving exists in the first place, because it works.

[@WR3DD]

Exactly. Players going down easy is part of the game now but to go down, stay down and then get the medics on is embarrassing.

[@TheJayMarsh]

@@WR3DD It's only part of the game because the refs allow it. I know it's easy for me to say while I'm sat at home behind a computer, but if I was the ref, I would be booking Son for simulation 100%, he got a fingertip to his nostril, there is no reason for him to go to ground, but he does because he wants to convince the ref that he's severely hurt. That is simulation and is a bookable offence, but instead of booking him, they let him get away with it, which is why all the players do it.

[@deanlewsey1628]

So weird how its taken this incident for people to say this needs fixing. Diving/simulation has been in the game for years.

[@peterhildreth3545]

He got poked in the eye you mug

[@TheJayMarsh]

@@peterhildreth3545 I mean, you're just wrong there. I don't think there's anything else I can tell you. You've either not watched the incident properly, or you're just making it up, but either way, there isn't a single camera angle that shows him being hit in the eye at any point, and I've just spent a few minutes watching all the videos again after your comment to make sure. Go and watch them, you mug.

[@Jack-2hgy]

And Danny’s point about asking criminals to start behaving is bang on! 😂😂

[@agt155]

Most of our justice system is about asking criminals to start behaving.

[@jamesgibson8088]

Its like saying parents have no responsibility over their kids behaviour

[@raasputin]

Exactly it's the refs job to keep em line

[@ryans756]

You! You there! Burglar! Stop with all the damn burgling would you? There's a good fellow! Sorry mate! Didn't realise it was upsetting anyone!

[@timknott5856]

I hate when former professionals assume that referees have never played the game... that’s engrained in English football culture and needs to stop...

[@Flypidge]

so they were all ex professional players?

[@marccleeland9923]

It’s true though...they ain’t

[@robinmcewen3286]

@St Hurley Actually, the 22 players, both managers and coaching staff, ex-players, pundits, commentators and fans are the ones with no idea. The ref and his assistants are the ONLY people in the stadium that know the laws. Footballers and fans a re clueless on the laws. NOt a single player playing the game today could explain a single law.

[@monkeytennis8861]

@@robinmcewen3286what a load of drivel

[@jacksmith913]

There’s a perfect opportunity to rid the game of this in conjunction with their concussion laws they are looking to bring in. If a player goes down holding the head or their face, take them off for a head injury assessment to make sure of no concussion. That should put a stop to fake head injuries straight away, and lead to a safer environment for all of the players

[@63mckenzie]

The games I played in as a kid in the 1970s were tougher than top flight football now.

[@zargonthemagnificent330]

Jumpers for goalposts, eh?

[@63mckenzie]

@@zargonthemagnificent330 And the opposition manager tripping you up as you ran down the wing.

[@daviddraper3871]

Who remember’s getting milk in glass bottles 😊

[@joebidenshandler2149]

@@daviddraper3871 I remember getting free milks in school then I had to take 5p. I said why do I need 5p now for milk and got told Maggie thatcher 🤣😂

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Jason Cundy - Promotes Diving on Radio Mourinho - "Be Bastards" on Amazon Doc British Football - Prides in Dark Arts Pundits - Shocked at Diving,Wrong Decisions 😂

[@kalm4766]

It's the classic "you have to go down there" quote that every pundit encourages, and then shocked when it happens, idiots

[@alexbastin4719]

Ironically the dark arts have found there way into the English leagues but at a national level our team still seems so naive at major tournaments!

[@scottevans5689]

It's when they say "he's been clever there" that makes me laugh.

[@efil4zaggin666]

Jason Cundy seems like a knobhead rbf

[@lolukush]

Danny Murphy is absolutely spot on - the referee is at fault for this controversy. VAR is to assist the referee in making a decision, not make the decision for the referee. He didnt want to make a decision and used VAR showing incidental contact in slow motion to override his initially correct decision. The reality is even without the foul that goal will most likely still have happened because the foul occurred so far away from the goal and the key pass didn't come from McTominay, it came from Fred.

[@bladechild2449]

lol, Jordan bringing up Rashford when he literally got his heel stamped on. Guy is so predictable. Murphy is spot on, people like Lineker didn't envision this version of VAR. How Jordan manages to both be Mr Hindsight and Mr whataboutery at the same time is exceptional.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Lineker champions players cheating Then Lineker gets outraged by players cheating That's the issue

[@leepatrick9432]

Jordan never mentioned Rashford,he said Martial.Predictable incorrect comment

[@deanlewsey1628]

Jordan speaks more sense than half of the muppets on talksport

[@mitchellbrough1615]

@@leepatrick9432 I'm only at 4:51 on the video but he quite clearly said "or rashford earlier on in the game" clearly could've only referred to rashford as he was on about the Tottenham game and Martial didn't play as he was injured

[@philwill0123]

@@Matthew-bu7fg thats all fans isnt it? Dive for the penalty, but of opposition dives its 10x worse

[@jacobsaadeddin]

Mic referee’s up to TV audio , surely this will stop players shouting abuse ect and would give more powers to the ref

[@paulwilliams2726]

Can you imagine the amount of apologise that the commentary teams would have to do to the easily offended. It would be brilliant

[@robertfarrell6479]

They proposed this idea a few years back and the clubs voted it down.

[@goncaloamaral7846]

Nah, refs should use the rules and send people off if players are abusive

[@imo098765]

Exactly if you want the refs to have authority give them the authority and the backing of everyone watching. Mic them up and let us hear why its a foul, etc. - Players surround the ref, the ref gives a clear warning to back away. If they dont yellow card - Swear at decisions towards the ref, yellow card for dissent The refs are too weak in the 1st place, thats why they get walked over by players etc.

[@lukey19920]

United came back from Spain and had a recovery day then played on the Sunday while Spurs had all week to prepare, got a huge helping hand from var and still couldn’t beat them that’s Spurs in a nutshell😂😂

[@tinfoilhat-hater6125]

as a Spurs fan i agree mate, im realistic and we are fucking shocking felt sick when that goal wasnt given cos ive seen far FAR worse and goals have been given footballs going down the proverbial lavatory

[@lukey19920]

@@tinfoilhat-hater6125 fair play for your honesty mate, thought it was a shocking decision myself, I felt confident we would beat you when I seen dier and that midfield is awful mate one of the most average looking midfields I’ve seen for a Spurs team in a long time

[@richardlefleur4957]

Spurs did a spurs

[@tinfoilhat-hater6125]

@@richardlefleur4957 we aint even doing a Spurs mate "doing a Spurs" back in the day meant go on a brilliant run of results, everyone gets cocky then we choke badly at the final hurdle, usually against crap teams..hence the word Spursy

[@tinfoilhat-hater6125]

@@richardlefleur4957 id say its more Spurs doing a Sheffield United 😂😂😂

[@kasapreko2301]

I dont think VAR is the problem in this particular case, Var checked for foul didnt make the decision, the ref made the decision to cancel the goal

[@CtrlDGame]

VAR puts doubt in the refs mind, that’s the problem.

[@davidbatey1932]

The ref wouldn’t have even known about the Tap to the face without VAR getting involved, last time I checked football was still a contact sport

[@kalm4766]

VAR suppose to put doubt in the refs mind if it's a wrong decision, unfortunately these refs can't determine what a foul is these days

[@francescocotone4959]

Asking players to stop diving is like asking criminals to start behaving... that was argument won for me!

[@BAZ1L]

VAR is still a good idea. It's the implementation of VAR is the problem. The people behind the screens aren't good at their jobs.

[@conner.9262]

Introduce what they do in Rugby ... any foul mouthing to the ref, any diving according to the referee ....... SIN BIN him for 10 minutes .... CALL OUT the Cheats ?

[@kronjobonjo]

Diving is very simple to deal with. Retrospective yellow cards after the game following analysis of the game. That would eliminate diving. Going down too easy would be harder to manage.

[@Steve-1978]

When an ex-player takes the job of a ref then I’ll stand and applaud

[@jerryoshea3116]

Excellent point👍.When they created so called "Pro Refs"paying them really good Salaries,i thought u might see many lower League,semi Pro,but ideally a "ex Pro" taking up the position's,who would clearly demonstrate a better understanding of the game and not buy into so much of the BS!

[@BG-ef8sk]

They never will because they don’t need the money when they finish playing

[@scottp4547]

I want Simon Jordan to be a regular on sky sports, instead of the Liverpool n united Mafia

[@adeko8578]

One person's food is another person' poison. I am happy not to see Simon Jordan on Sky sports, I find him too judgemental for the role.

[@deanlewsey1628]

Speaks more sense than 95% of the numpties on tv and radio. Better than the biased shite we have to deal with.

[@crashmatt1]

Great discussion. In my humble opinion VAR needs to have 3 decision makers, an ex player, an ex manager and an ex ref and 2 out of 3 must agree the decision. Not a chuff at Stockley.

[@somebodyelseuk]

Diving has been a scourge of the English game since the 90s. Makes me laugh that they say 'last couple of years'.

[@dannygray4898]

I NEVER wanted VAR to begin with. Football flourished for over 150 years without VAR. It's a simple beautiful game that doesn't need gimmicks.

[@annabjurstam6966]

'When you get hit in the head, your legs still work.' hahahahaha

[@dickslaughter2]

He's obviously never watched boxing

[@mattm7426]

@@dickslaughter2 Nobody is getting punched by a pro boxer on a football match pal. He's talking about minor bumps to the head, clearly.

[@carolecollins853]

@@dickslaughter2 😁 true

[@dickslaughter2]

@@mattm7426 doesn't have to be a pro boxer. You never seen a fight in real life? If i hit you on the chin your legs would be the first things to go, skid

[@mattm7426]

@@dickslaughter2 not sure what part of "minor bumps to the head" you didn't understand, but maybe re-read my comment and try again big guy.

[@mrpickles7313]

"When you get hit in the head your legs still work" - Not been in or watched many fights I see Danny.

[@GAMEOVER-dk1un]

In terms in the sport of football he’s correct, unless its a freakish accident nothing stops you from running apart from yourself

[@Keysersoze786]

He's right. I've seen heavyweight boxers get up quicker then son after they were kod by prime Mike tyson

[@higgins007]

Well if a blow to the head is so severe that your legs stop working, then it should be a forced substitution. The player should not be allowed to continue. That would put an end to that sort of bs.

[@Zeppelin180]

If it takes 3 mins at Stockley Park followed by 6 replays for the ref to decide then I don’t think it’s a clear and obvious error.

[@karlydoc]

Title of this clip starts "Berks like Gary Lineker...."I know you at talk football don't like the BBC ,but don't make hay out of that when VAR is being mismanaged by the officials at stockley park and the ref on the field.

[@catomacro8325]

Danny we can'thave it both ways . Goals are being ruled out because because an attacking players eyebrows are offside but people say technically it's offside . Well same thing applies in the Son foul he was caught in the face ( the level of contact is irrelevant ) therefore technically it's a foul .

[@eiler1987]

Thank you, finally someone on here with a rational comment. Power in the contact is what is used to determine if and what color the card should be. And if Mctominay wouldn’t have flailed his arm back as Son pulled on him, United would have been given the advantage and scored and we go on. But cause of a careless flick of the hand catches the face of an other player. It’s a foul

[@tarekahmed992]

@@eiler1987 Absolutely. Smacking someone in the face especially a stretched out arm is a foul. Even players who accidentally smash someone in the face when jumping for the ball is considered a foul so why wouldn't this its even worse

[@thelimey351]

VAR is a *good* thing, it has reduced the number of bad decisions & means officials fixing games (on the rare occasion it happens) is far more difficult. Referees are not good enough and they are not good enough at reading VAR either.

[@Matthewgoff1996]

I always liked Son, one of those hard-working players who always gives his best, and a good player. I never expected this from him. Faking it for a decision is one thing, but having the Physios come on for 3 minutes until the goal was ruled out is beyond pathetic. He's gone right down in my estimation after that.

[@adeko8578]

This is how freckle fans are today. Son, if you do it one more time they will be baying for your blood. This is part of the reasons, players should act like mercenaries instead of this loyalty to club melarkey.

[@Matthewgoff1996]

@@adeko8578 What are you talking about? How is being loyal/disloyal to a club anything to do with milking an injury?

[@adeko8578]

@@Matthewgoff1996Your long term player, Son, was hurt during the game but you refused to give him, one of your best players, the benefit of the doubt. You stated that he was milking it and he has gone down in your estimation for that one reason. You know that it is out of character for Son to have feigned injury. He would have expected Tottenham Hotspur fans and supporters like yourself to show him that loyalty that he has been giving to your club (apart from the lovely earnings)year in, year out. Loyalty is mutual and not one way. If he feels that he is not valued by the club and fans any longer and another club values him highly, he will be daft not to move on. That is why I stated that footballers should act like mercenaries I should have added if they feel loyalty is waning.

[@Matthewgoff1996]

@@adeko8578 I'm a Man United fan you pleb

[@adeko8578]

@@Matthewgoff1996 OOkay. Got that scenario wrong didn't l☺️. For that, I owe you an apology,, your lordship

[@garypowell1540]

The technology works very well in cricket after a few minor adjustments. I suggest that a team should only be allowed to appeal to VAR once per half. The ref could also have the power to warn a player that if he continues to protest a decision it will be referred to VAR and the team's appeal will be lost if found to be fallacious. As VAR is only intended to prevent howlers, severely limiting the number of appeals will greatly concentrate the player's minds. Other than as a response to over-pressurizing the Ref, the decision to go to VAR should be taken out of the Refs hands and given to captains, as it is in cricket. If the judgment is in the affirmative then the appeal is restored, if not it is lost.

[@amarvijh4504]

Simon Jordan has something personal against Ole. Not sure what Ole did to him!

[@brandonandtom941]

Wtf anything to spout your hate for the British

[@FootballCrazy.939]

Yeh I know.

[@Zeppelin180]

He’s a phenomenally more successful person than Simon for a start

[@amarvijh4504]

@@brandonandtom941 Anything to spout hate against Asians

[@BurtonRdForever]

@@Zeppelin180 Both self made multi millionaires no?

[@mattblack8225]

Simon Jordan is spot on. Refs are so demoralised after being undermined and undermined over the years. VAR has made this even worse. If we trust refs rather than undermining them then maybe they will start making better decisions.

[@paulie-g]

This would be easier to do if the standard of refereeing weren't so shocking. We've had decisions where the ref has had the full benefit of unlimited replays on his screen and still made the wong decision that everyone else could see was wrong. Not a 50/50, not a grey area of the law, plain wrong.

[@JPzizou]

Why do players exaggerate things? To get the foul. To get the advantage. Who gives the fouls. The REFS! Who gives the guidlines for rules. THE GOVERNING BODY Early implementation of VAR will have its hiccups. We can just hope that the rules will change to cut out the worst parts of the beautiful game

[@JackofDiamonds951]

Poor Salt & Lineker..

[@stevewelsh8560]

referee's should be made accountable for the decisions they make, some of the decisions in the past World Cup were disgusting and so obviously biased.

[@777tractorboy]

Simon Jordan is spot on as usual

[@kuganhearn3968]

does danny murphy call out mo salah over this kind of stuff??

[@MadCatFamily]

The very first thing that needs to happen is stop calling it simulation and just call it cheating.

[@stephenjones6669]

Always makes my piss boil when the likes of Lineker says, when a player feels a hand on his shoulder, “ he was entitled to go down” ! It’s condoning cheating. If you can stay on your feet, then do so. Sort it out refs !!

[@BurtonRdForever]

The screaming that we've had to witness is fucking laughable!! Imagine Mick Harford, Tony Adams, Roy Keane or Andy Gray screaming? They'd get absolutely crucified on a match day for it. They'd never live it down. That'd be from other players!! Nevermind the fans!! But from the other side if you don't scream and feign injury now you get nothing and are ostensibly punished for being honest?

[@iamnotthemessiahnowfocuson7469]

Will you dry up !

[@theironshiek]

These var decisions are a joke. We can all agree on that but it doesn't help when managers like oli berating son yesterday but condoning fernandez behaviour the week before

[@deanlewsey1628]

Finally someone with some sense. Villa nearly relegated after a farcical pen given against them last season. When Fernandes stamped on Konsa and went down like he got shot. Ole didnt seem to mind it then.

[@mitchellbrough1615]

Managers are always gonna back their team in that, especially if they know it will work. Same way I don't blame the player for it, I blame the rules and officials for allowing it

[@bobliiswagger574]

Sometimes when players stay on their feet they never get the foul that's why you see players doing what Son is doing now. Players would want to gain an advantage whatever way possible. It's part of the game now whether we like it or not.. the players and refs are both accountable.

[@fusefrank6006]

Bruno fernandes has been doing it all season - but let's sweep that under the carpet 🤣

[@drvs2262]

“I’ve had elbows in the face with my bones showing.” Calm down Danny you lying little sod

[@haalstaag]

I find it embarrassing when one of my team players dive....and any other team

[@richardredmond1463]

Great conversation. The refs have to, have to, HAVE to start booking players left, right and centre for simulation. We'll have matches finishing 9 v 7 but then things will change.

[@jack7195]

Murphy: "When you get hit in the head your legs still work" Boxers: "Come here pal"

[@vaughanrhodes4992]

I loved a rugby league referee telling a player when he answered him back “don’t answer back, this isn’t Old Trafford”

[@The_Zeitheist]

Until there's a disincentive it won't stop. Social shaming used to be enough, but incentives so high it's seen as a victory to win the penalty. Harsh retrospective team punishment so it would let the team down to be caught would eradicate it.

[@nikkynaemates]

Just make it a rule. If VAR spots diving then it should be a red card.

[@Three_Sword_Hokage]

Danny Murphy saying they don't know because they haven't played the game, fat chance that someone that has would become a referee though is there. Plus plenty of pundits are also ex-players and seem completely clueless so playing the game at a professional level is no guarantee of competence either.

[@paulduncan789]

I have thought this for so many years. Players and ex players are always criticizing refs for having never played the game and therefore not understanding it. Well where are all these ex players lining up to become referees? Much easier to sit in a comfy studio slating refs. In fact Jason Mohammad made this point to Alex Scott on MOTD2 and she ignored it.

[@chrispratt2425]

Spot on. Anyone can be a pundit. Become a should have and could have punter.

[@Grogster2007]

The only answer is to abandon VAR during the game but then use it to review every game retrospectively. Then every player deemed to have dived, cheated, simulated contact should be banned for 6 games. I bet it would stop overnight.

[@robbiepeterh]

Jamie Vardy: best diver ever. He’s won us loads of points.

[@frannyp46]

Robphurn84. As a Blackburn fan , you will agree with me that David Speedie is the greatest diver of all time.

[@robbiepeterh]

@@frannyp46 painful, painful memories

[@davido117]

Rose tinted 👓: In the good old days you weren’t awarded a free-kick unless blood and/or bone was visible. Players who showboated got either a size 9 on their hamstrings or a sneaky left-hook. Ahhh the good old days.

[@vineetmani4939]

People immediately label Salah and Mane as divers but there have been many times they have been fouled and stayed on their feet, yet nothing is given. The Refs are primarily to blame as they have encouraged the culture of "we wont consider it, if you dont go down". Dont get me wrong, both of them have also dived a few times but I hope my point comes across.

[@martinthomas2759]

The vast majority of professional players are cheats..Simples..🤷‍♂️

[@markw8353]

Anyone "injured so painfully" should be given a recovery period on the sidelines to ensure no unseen damage....... Tactics are tactics, players do the job of employing the tactics 🤔🤔🤔

[@Thoselog264]

Jordan is absolutely spot on here

[@jackhines7293]

Name me one player in the last 30 years that gets slapped in the face and doesn't go down

[@AmB-mo5wl]

Cantona when Ruddock elbowed him.

[@EnglishGentleman123]

Steve Bull

[@jackhines7293]

Players that were playing 30 year ago then 😂

[@EnglishGentleman123]

Jack Hines Steve Bull was.

[@jackhines7293]

Steve bull started playing the game in 89

[@scotthendry6298]

Well said Simon Danny proving head knocks are damaging

[@kinomusic9110]

"When you get hit in the head, your legs still work" Danny Murphy, 2021.

[@happpyLewis]

Seen a few of these comments now. Getting hit in the head does not automatically knock you out so I think what Danny said is correct

[@davido117]

Simon Jordan name players who dive? Simon: Rivaldo, Rashford & Martial Can you list anymore Simon? Simon: Sterling, Pogba, Lukaku, Pepe, Defoe, Drogba, JSancho, JBarnes, Zaha(@utd obvs), Carlton Cole, Andy Cole, Tony Yeboah, Anelka… Ok Simon stop there, what about; ARobben, CRonaldo, DBeckham, DSimone, LSuarez and JURGEN KLINSMANN! Simon: Errrr what you talking about Willis?

[@DanEvans2000]

I Disagree completely with Simon Johnson blaming everyone because the Refs aren't strong enough to handle scrutiny. They have got a job to do and are getting paid for it, if they messed up like they are doing now anywhere else they'd have been sacked. If you still can't get it right after looking at it on TV then you just ain't good enough. Most of Europe and other countries have used VAR well, why can't we?

[@ThisisArtSoitis]

For clear and obvious dives inside or outside the box a straight red card a 3 game ban. Make the rule straight forward and hardcore. I bet it wouldn't take long for a change in culture.

[@8ballali]

Bielsa is the only one that might do what we want, and stand up and say it has to stop.

[@wendyyoung]

Would love to see Simon up against Larry Gimmicker

[@elliott8709]

Wasn't a foul ahahha it's embarrassing going down like you have been shot

[@JamesHussain82]

Its a foul. Just because United scored after it means nothing. If he stays up is the foul given?

[@lukey19920]

@@JamesHussain82 never a foul , if that’s a foul then players need to run with hands behind their back

[@JamesHussain82]

@@lukey19920 its not a natural running movement. Foul

[@elliott8709]

@@JamesHussain82 nah not a foul if he stays on his feet the foul isn't given but because he acts like he's been shot then ahahaha. Plus u get hit in face does that make ur legs not work

[@lukey19920]

@@JamesHussain82 so when you’re running you out your hands behind your back?😂😂😂 come on mate I know you’re just having a laugh but you sound a bit silly, even pundits who can’t stand united said it was never a foul

[@garethnorthwood8055]

About time if you go down then you go off for a minimum of 3 mins for a proper assessment, soon get up again

[@Jimmy-es8bc]

Weird watching this over a year later with them complaining about VAR. VAR has become a great tool.

[@jacklangus9092]

South American commentators make the game a joy to watch , so much emotion Brilliant , commentary in England is zzzzzz !!

[@JohnWilliams-dt9hn]

If the offside line was made through the last defender instead of behind him then it would eliminate the frustration of a lace or flapping shirt ruling out goals .

[@cartner90]

Agree with Danny on this one. Referees are enablers. Lock down on it, set a precedent, and it'll change in weeks.

[@shoesnbra]

How is this a dive??? Lamela did the same thing and got a second yellow card in the NDL. Tierney dropped like a sack of cement and not a single word from anyone but now it’s not a foul? it’s a natural thing players do?? Cmon man he got wacked in the face and went down immediately. The correct decision was made. It’s was 100% a foul. Sure Son milked it, but that’s not a “dive”, he clearly got hit in the face. Everyone has a different pain tolerance and sometimes those surprise hits to the face hurt really bad even tho it looks soft. Pointless debate. Media really has an agenda against Tottenham.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

40 years ago, Sir Brian Clough berated John Motson and the BBC saying "I tnink what you do to referees is nothing short of criminal" If the warning signs were present then, why are we still having these problems now? The media has a lot to answer for

[@leeandrew6555]

Brian Clough built Nottingham Forest’s European cup winning sides on integrity. He hated players talking back to referees, diving, cheating or even having bad hair cuts. Nottingham Forest are the last great club confirmed.

[@moerocco775]

“When you get hit in the head your legs still work..” Huh!?

[@stevenjohnson7442]

I know... pathetic!

[@alistairpayne5357]

My niece hit me in the head and my legs worked perfectly but if Mike Tyson hit me in the head they wouldn't lol son went down like he'd been assassinated not even jfk flinched like that and he took a bullet not 3 fingers

[@andyc3088]

Why is there so much disrespect to officials that you don't in other sport. Danny Murphy keeps saying it's not a player faults but blaming every body else!!

[@jimmyfaulkner5746]

Simon Jordan is the only one with any sense on talk sport

[@ReynoldsReviews]

Ok I'm a spurs fan and I agree I'd be very upset if that decision was given the other way round, minimal contact and no need to go down, I agree. However, minimal or not, the rules state facial or head injury the ref has to stop the game, so surely whether he stays up goes down, does a cartwheel, the rules state the ref stops the game. So unfortunately even if son had stayed on his feet the chances are the outcome would've been the same. Welcome to modern football and modern day footballers everyone. It's not gonna change 🤷‍♂️

[@danielmcwaters8140]

Comes back to money, job pressure and all that. A player goes down easily to win a freekick/penalty/etc for their team, the manager benefits if they then score, and the owner could then benefit if its for a league or cup win. Basically it comes down to how much money is at stake in these games.

[@stanettiels7367]

Danny is correct. The authorities should stamp it out. Danny isn’t having his cake and eating it. He’s not agreeing with Son. He’s saying that the players are operating within the framework, ie, the rules, to be able to get away with it.

[@h92-w5w]

Players start getting sent off for diving and bans, managers will start telling them to stand up quicker then a quick thing from quick land

[@simonj5615]

Players are not going to move away from getting advantages. You therefore have to punish dishonesty or reward honesty. The only reason the game used to be more honest was that the financial pressure was not there to make it dishonest.

[@85RJames]

Danny Murphy is also a giant Berk

[@AnimefreakHQ]

Besides Murphy, these two hackle heads are professional grifters.

[@TheRoyston8791]

There is nothing wrong with VARS it is just not used correctly by officials. For VARS to work this is how they should use it. No1 Both Teams get 3 calls about a decision against them within 90 minutes of the match. No calling it in 46/47/etc or 91/92/etc mins. The ref then stops the game goes over and looks at that decision. No2 Used only to see if the ball crossed the goal line or not. This would not be counted as a teams call, more if you have 11 players saying yes and the other 11 said no. A quick look to see who is right. No3 If the ref himself is not 100% sure even after looking himself then you Have one official and one ex-player be sitting off the field to view the calls and simply have 2 lights. 1 green for correct and 1 red for wrong. That's it simple really.

[@GrahransWoWGold]

They need to get a respectable ex-footballer within the VAR Hub and help with decisions. A referee that has never played the game, will give that a foul because they can't appreciate what a player needs to do with their arms to get anywhere. Son shouldn't be trying to grapple with McTomminay, to begin with, that's the whole reason McTomminay is trying to hold Son off! I'm a United fan and we've been guilty of players going down far too easily/often. Ronaldo, Young, Rashford, Martial, and Fernandes to name a few... When Sir Alex Ferguson was at United, he reprimanded Young, the only way forward is reprimanding any player that uses simulation to gain an advantage, and when clubs/players start missing out on trophies/awards or percentage of their income, MAYBE, just maybe, we'll see an improvement!

[@scottcraig6381]

There must be retrospective punishment for a player blatantly diving…like a 1 match ban..and referees must be more protected only the team captain should be allowed to question decisions….just like in rugby…works perfectly there

[@nonamebill7421]

"Berks like Lineker" you mean a player that played at the highest level, and who's opinion matters more than a failed football chairman? That Gary Lineker.

[@benframpton9302]

Why does it work so well in Rugby

[@SuperSt4rkey]

Referees need to be able to take more control of the game and use VAR as a tool. It is their responsibility to stamp this out the game as it is all due to their lack of consistency and the lack of respect the players have for them.

[@JohnWilliams-dt9hn]

A whistle is ancient var ... someone blows it ,,, a whistle and var , more than one person has to blow it ... One of those technologies have to go because football matches only work with 1 ref and his whistle.

[@mkkravist11]

No one does it more than ‘Arry Kane!! Any diver, on another teams or my team, is a disgrace and has no place in a man’s game.

[@chairmanalf7856]

His constant ducking beneath jumping defenders in order to draw a foul is also downright dangerous. He will cause a serious injury one day to a fellow professional.

[@mickporter1488]

If the managers had 3 VAR checks similar to tennis there is no way Jose would have got that goal cancelled but because its Stockley Park saying have a look its a different case.

[@dominicthespacemandale6738]

Spot on mate thats the way to go..They're checking everything and its a joke