Bernie Sanders Mall Punks React to Interview From 1988

Mike "Mall Punk" Blair returns with his partner in crime Michele Perry to catch up and recall their time being interviewed by Bernie Sanders in 1988. As well as how this interview affected their lives and current events.
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[@h.g.wellington2500]

Compare this with that video of Dianne Feinstein telling the kids talking to her about climate change that she knows better than them because she's "been doing this for 30 years." It's no surprise Bernie does well with young people. He listens to them and genuinely cares about what they think, rather than dismissing them as a bunch of idiots.

[@serioussilliness2064]

And was that before or after her frozen spell episode, right after mitch mcturtle?

[@williamlehmaniv7460]

I love that they are still punk.

[@christopherdavis8248]

if you "used" to be punk, you never were.

[@jambajuice8750]

me too

[@R3nchi]

For me it's so sad... You haven't grown for how long 20-40 years?

[@johnkawakami8395]

@Ricky Spanish Vi Subversa of Poison Girls was born in 1935. Older than the members of Led Zepplin.

[@williamlehmaniv7460]

@@R3nchi They have grown though, while remaining true to their punk roots. Specifically it seems to me that their world view has broadened to understand more of the issues that bothered them. They have recognized a candidate who embodies fixing those issues and they now support that candidate versus their previous view of let anarchy destroy it all. Did you get a chance to see the original interview?

[@BenjaminSteber]

It wasn't a phase, Mom.

[@BenjaminSteber]

@chimpakawanzelu Hey, thanks.

[@trashpanda6885]

People when I was growing up always said you get more conservative as you get older. Joke's on them because I didn't become a leftist until my 30s. And no, just voting democrat =/= being a leftist.

[@mandelharvey3429]

@@trashpanda6885 advertising is all inclusive. Gotta admire the dedication to craft of poopery of both parties to act like they have different interests. Biden more racist sexist juvenile demented and warmongering than Trump or most republicans. The fact that so many democrats endorse Biden says I'm not one of them. There are some democrats who aren't aggressively racist but they're edging us out .

[@MrAceMcGee]

@@mandelharvey3429 How is Biden more sexist, juvenile, racist, demented and warmongering than Trump and most Republicans?

[@AmySorrellMusic]

Every once in awhile as I peruse the internet I find a perfect comment, today it was yours.

[@andreseh87]

Proof that Bernie is punk rock.

[@lenonel3286]

@@CaBdosdos porcupine tree sucks

[@TheLostArchangel666]

@@CaBdosdos Nah mate. He endorsed the ideas of Chomsky - he's, at worst, a left communist. Which I can respect. I'd argue he's more of an ancom though when push comes to shove.

[@TheYakisobaNoodle]

@@CaBdosdos its really unfortunate that you see it that way

[@Soleilune1995]

@@TheLostArchangel666 Chomsky and Bernie both deserve national monuments. They should be on our money.

[@TheLostArchangel666]

@@Soleilune1995 Agreed, although I actually doubt they'd want that. I believe both would prefer for the money to go to the furthering of the cause they stand for. Neither Sanders nor Chomsky is in it for the fame or the self-glorification. They aren't Stalin or Mao.

[@Miguel-ki8wj]

We need a reunion of you guys with Bernie!!!

[@jamviator]

Yes please!!!

[@uhohhotdog]

Yes!

[@MKMousanz]

Yesssss!

[@MrAceMcGee]

Which show or movie did Will Smith meet Trump?

[@HeadNtheClouds]

With the mittens! Just cut & paste it, haha

[@Ninerforlife1979]

The fact that they are still punk is a testament to their code of honor. \m/

[@FavianTubeX]

I love that Bernie is not condescending or acting like they're weird, he genuinely wants to know what they're about and where they're coming from.

[@KARENboomboomROXX]

He's an actor. That's what they do.

[@comradepolarbear6920]

@@KARENboomboomROXX ok karen

[@KARENboomboomROXX]

@@comradepolarbear6920 prove me wrong. You can't. Politics is for those too ugly for Hollywood. They are ALL actors.

[@comradepolarbear6920]

@@KARENboomboomROXX no they're not

[@KARENboomboomROXX]

@@comradepolarbear6920 well you can't prove it so have a nice day. I wonder why all the presidents were related? Hmmmmmmm 🙄 it's a game dummy... You and I are the pawns. Just get your government mandated mask on and silence yourself.... It's what they want, and so so good for you.....

[@tschak909]

The more footage of Bernie that surfaces, the more awesome he is shown to be. In contrast to just about every other politician, today.

[@AndoCan123]

tschak909 he still dropped out of the election

[@heartache5742]

@@AndoCan123 doesn't mean he's worse than two rapists does it

[@j1ill210]

@@AndoCan123 He was forced out by the corporate elitist DNC, after his campaign was sabotaged TWICE by limiting his exposure to the general population through the MSM. The democratic party is corrupted by greed.

[@crystal.matter]

lol I know right? It seems like everyone has receipts pulled out from the past of them being assholes, but Bernie has receipts of being awesome

[@T2G-DJT]

j 1ill Sucks to Suck

[@kurtwpg]

They stumbled for a second when he asked how they felt about their high school education, because clearly they had not expected anyone to ever ask their opinion of it.

[@lalakuma9]

"We both played bass" In punk bands I assume "... in the youth orchestra" Oh 😂

[@TehOneTrewIdjut]

:p

[@kianr2200]

legends

[@definitiveentertainment1658]

This is... criminally under-viewed.

[@scatered1]

@Why Why Why Why Joe 'Groper' Biden Anti establishment you can't be serious 😂 when Hollywood celebrities and corporations and sensationalist media constantly try to pander to socialist ideologies and the stuckup crybabies that supposedly swear by them then that is the establishment, it is the system you idiot.

[@scatered1]

@Why Why Why Why Joe 'Groper' Biden What would my opinion of him have to do with truthfulness?

[@heymaryelizabeth]

“To heck with society” ❤️❤️❤️

[@leeross6469]

You folks awhile back wondered what was wrong with Joe Biden. ..thought he was getting dementia. He has had 2 brain aneurysms, and 2 very long surgeries...one 13 hrs. One was in area of speech. He has told about this himself..not a secret.. see " scholarly articles . . aneurysms . . Joe Biden "

[@TheTheoTherone]

6:20 also 19:50

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

@@leeross6469 Trump has had the exact same heart stent surgeries that Joe Biden had, and his lasted even longer. But okay.

[@gaminglegend]

Wholesome punks :)

[@kikidulalinko5570]

lol all these preppy types styled like our generation now B I Z A R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R E

[@mobsterlobster]

as a fellow 40 year old weirdo, im so glad these people didnt sell out. it makes me so happy.

[@Deadlyvoltage3]

They’re not 40 lmao. The video game out 40 years ago ffs and they weren’t infants

[@drkaufman]

Fellow early 40s weirdo here. Self-described since the ‘80s. Message received.

[@risksrewardsrelics51]

I’m early 40s myself… they are probably about 10 years older than me. But yeah, they rock. 🤘 As someone who spent a lot of time in Burlington back in the day, Bernie rocks too. It’s a little shocking that Michele moved to AZ. Talk about an absolute opposite from VT. An aside - the downtown mall is long gone now.

[@extremeloco23]

@@Deadlyvoltage3 i love that u are probably so used to writing video games, u probably changed came to game without realising it

[@cjboyer4355]

Sold out as in what? Grew up, got off drugs, got a career instead of a job? Lol it’s not selling out it’s called growing up.

[@spencerjames9417]

It'd be dope if they could become reunited with bernie

[@osonhouston]

Little did they know Bernie Sanders was like yes these are my people.

[@SquirrelMonkeyCom]

I love them!

[@jamessilver6429]

Me also,and I voted for Trump 3 times and am glad I did! ❤👍

[@JustinHeiningerVT]

Having spent time with both Mike and Michele as a teenager in the '80s ( I also worked at the Teen Center for a few of those years ) I am struck now by how much of what the punk scene in Burlington, VT and beyond stood for is very similar to the messaging in songs by folk artists like Woody Guthrie and Malvina Reynolds. If you listen to a lot of those old pre-hippy era songs, much of the messaging and lyrics were about many of the same social issues that are still present, even today. While watching this interview today Malvina's song Little Boxes as well as her song The Little Mouse, came to mind. Thanks, Mike and Michele for doing this follow-up interview 32 years later.

[@mikeblair9675]

Thanks Justin!

[@lozloz7418]

Mike Blair are you the young guy in that video of Bernie interviewing you in the eighties if you are Anna kasparian of the young Turks did a segment on that video and sent a shout out to you and that girl you were with that day she said she would like if you and that girl you were with in that video could contact her I know this from the segment at the young Turks I think you can only email but just try googling them she really wants to interview the both of you on her show keep me posted on how you go and you guys need a reunion with Bernie

[@mikeblair9675]

@@lozloz7418 yes that's me.

[@lozloz7418]

Mike Blair did I get a thumbs up from you sorry if I woke you I’m from Australia it’s 11:44 pm here

[@mikeblair9675]

@@lozloz7418 no problem I've been up.for a while.

[@JM-yf3ol]

Bernie was a progressive KZbinr before KZbin!!! (.... before even the internet!)

[@nancymesek]

These two are a pleasure to watch.

[@patrickbyrne5070]

They were then and still are now. It’s a lovely thing

[@tangsolaris9533]

What marvelous character.

[@EdwardLindon]

I feel Mike gentled and mellowed and Michele got really strong and tough. This seems to be pretty common: teenage boys are full of bravado, and life knocks the stuffing out of you, and teenage girls are often lacking confidence, but that changes as they move through life and learn they can overcome challenges.

[@SilverrulezGaming]

Yup. Women have it difficult. But men do as well. Life knocks the optimism out of you. Just absolutely kills it.

[@jordanmalone2547]

@@SilverrulezGamingeven more difficult now in the coming year of our lord that is 2025. Mike and Michelle need to keep up being the blueprint.

[@themasstermwahahahah]

They also have both become so much more articulate

[@ComplexConfiguration]

Funny, I read mike in the old video as being quite mellow and gentle already. I think you are wrong in that assessment for other reasons.

[@d2cbro]

He was super mellow in the original too

[@chrislove5651]

I love how polite and respectful Bernie is to these kids. I also like how the punk kids still have that Vermont politeness lol

[@velvetmusic9851]

Oh man, I just watched the original interview and I was wondering, where are the two wonderful punks today? And here they are, they are still punks, still peaceful, with a touch of rasta for the guy, so cool! Bernie Sanders is the real President of the US!

[@Merlincat007]

Anarchism is a leftist ideology which calls for the dismantling of unjust hierarchies. It does not mean the same thing as anarchy in the popular perception. There are various versions like anarcho syndicalism and anarcho socialism which contain systems like community policing. It's still organized, it just ensures that no one can gain too much power over others without direct checks and balances.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Just your description alone makes it sound exactly like feudalism. Nothing stops one "community" from growing by being the worst most efficient, aggressive and authoritarian community, forcing other communities either to bunch up to repeal the threat or submit and get assimilated. Your system requires a benevolent dictator above those communities who will keep relative peace between the communities and would forcefully break up too powerful ones. European nations have solved it by organizing in a union, but it required WW2 to make everyone come together - this wasn't a natural inclination for literally thousands of years of constant wars between communities, and democratic communities didn't survive during that time - only authoritarian ones did.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

​@Ühinenud Front that's simply wrong. Being against hierarchy requires having measures in place that prevent hierarchy from appearing, and anarchy doesn't have any, it's completely open to having dictatorship. Again, what stops few powerful communities unify under some charismatic leaders, based on religious ideas, and dominate all other, "true" anarchic communities? Nothing. Who will tell people that they can't be brainwashed by sociopaths to die for their cause? No one. Who will stop manipulators from creating ideologies that make people cling to them? No one.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

@Ühinenud Front the one with state police, state army, state government? The one with tools based on power hierarchy, with the rights of the state to declare state of emergency and do whatever it needs to do? Sure.

[@silence1872]

@@NJ-wb1cz See northern syria/rojava or the zapatistas in chiapas mexico. Thats basically the society Anarchists propose. Stateless direct democracy.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

@@silence1872 I know. That's why it's a pipe dream - wherever anarchy appeared it soon collapsed due to external influence. Their model requires some state overseeing it and protecting it - there's just no other way. Anarchy is simply too weak to exist on its own.

[@Vienna3080]

I wanna see them again talking with Bernie in the same mall

[@cornflakes4535]

It's probably closed

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

The mall doesn't exist anymore sadly. Well they built a new mall where it was but it's more of a "shopping center" than a mall.

[@M00SE414]

The mall closing isn’t sad other than the fact that the land it sits on was completely destroyed and wasted for short term profit like many other decrepit and closed malls across the country.

[@alexleonee]

Or any mall! They could help reshape our society by going viral 😊

[@sitcom1971]

That would be so cool!

[@MarsHottentot]

Not at all surprised they held the line. So cool.

[@VegSocialist]

Thie interview shows Sanders had always been genuinely interested in others. He does feel for us. He doesn't think of the working class or kids as lower.

[@VegSocialist]

@mgsfan15Bernie has always advocated for activism and involvement to keep the government from being corrupted by the 1%. It takes constant vigilance.

[@brianwilliams9462]

In part because he grew up in a working class family that struggled, and always identified with that struggle. A true mensch

[@thomasaquinas.of.the.hay7782]

I grew up punk, still punk, Love Bernie, and connecting with this makes me feel that what we've been saying for so long is now finally represented in a potential President. We have a voice now within someone who sees what we see, for once a worthy person to elect, do it!

[@badcornflakes6374]

That's sick dude

[@lindseystein9676]

What an awesome reunion! It’s nice to see people who’ve kept their piercings in- I’m only 32 and I get a lot of comments from my family about how I’m “too old” for facial piercing. To heck with society!

[@psychotropictraveler514]

Isn't that annoying? I still get shit for having plugs and an eyebrow piercing, and I'm only 29 lol. People need to get over themselves and worry about their own bodies..

[@hawkstrike18]

The worst part isn't that they (everyone) think they have a say about what you (don't) wear etc and they form an opinion on you due to your appearance (any "issues" one can find about), but that most are shallow in general, in every aspect of life, and there are consequences. Again, in case it's not clear enough, I also say this about ppl who like piercings etc and kinda look down on ppl who don't, I'm always striving to be objective rather than accepted by any group, and things do go both ways no matter what anyone says (obviously, objectivity =/= neutrality and complete demonizing or denial of what "both extremes" say; just leaving this here). I frankly don't care if ppl think whatever they want of me (everyone understands what they can and see what they want to see anyway) or the way I or my hair look (well, I look kinda boring I suppose, a bit nerdy or something, and even now in my 30s without the teen insecurities of the past, I by no means feel perfect/amazing looking, or inferior or superior to anyone due to this... and I've been a perfectionist when it comes to certain things, less so today but yh). But knowing the true mentality and perspective of ppl has been a weight and something you have to try hard not to let it drain all your hope and steal whatever innocence/positivity/openness still exists in the world of today. And these are the things that matter, and what society should be blamed for. The multiplying selfishness, immaturity, complexes, fanaticism/hate/bullying (for whatever excuse they can find), and cynicism/trolling that are constantly induced in and tolerated by ppl. Couldn't care less about different tastes when it comes to appearance...

[@robincrowflies]

@@hawkstrike18 Thank you for sharing your experience. We are groomed to be looking for our support from others--and for superficialities. It keeps us all off balance and easy to manipulate.

[@hawkstrike18]

@@robincrowflies Seriously, those who pay attention knew/know where this leads. And resistance means to actually stay/be almost intact and true to values that benefit the society/all life on Earth. Nowadays, everyone is turning (has been turned, imo) into a zombie and they always have to blame something else, from different ppl, to phones, animals, aliens, ghosts and curses, to the rich/politicians/system. All while they call others irresponsible and sheep, etc. Maximum acceptance of cynicism, mistrust, a selfish worldview that is imposed on them, and everything that keeps worsening things (but it's okay because they resist vaccines - which is a good band and I don't get why ppl hate it so much 🥴🤭). Yes, manipulation included (but somehow, it's always others or the opposite side of the fence that utilizes cheap tactics etc xD and the recent videos of such topics that these ppl click on are flooded with comments about the media, yet what they say is equally bad and false and harmful, if not identical to what media often say, at least where I live). Could mention a million things and fill KZbin servers with replies, but it wouldn't be enough to do justice to the countless examples of all the things we do wrong (and excuse or tolerate whenever we feel like we should, and continuing having the nerve to judge others' double standards). I don't really care if we do it consciously or not, it has to be fixed. Yeah, we look and are different, and we can feel awkward when seeing something we aren't particularly fond of or accustomed to, there are always hasty assumptions to be made, and so on, but if one judges anyone based on a small percentage of their existence then that says a lot about the braincells of the one who does that. Maybe things (imagine the more complex matters) are too complicated and confusing, but if one is so addicted to oversimplifications and generalizations and tribalism, and a shallow view of reality, then how do they get to belittle others and act as if they're masters of truth...? xD The image some ppl have of themselves is beyond wishful thinking, and they really think they have what it takes to call others this or that and fully reject them instantly, based on whatever excuse (well, this behavior probably covers some need, some insecurities, but why notice that when everyone is taught to exude confidence and get away with everything?). p.s. firstly, I've heard of danning-kruger effect, and secondly, I obviously don't imply that preferences and taste and chemistry don't matter. Btw, contrary to what I always see and hear ppl say, respect isn't earned, it's lost... and it's lost gradually based on deeper stuff than an appearance. Just saying. Now, hopefully this post will be approved by this holy platform... it's hit or miss even though I sound like a broken record and say more or less the same things every time xD Last but not least, nice username there, it reminds me of a song (Thrice - As the Crow Flies). I'm pretty sure I've told that to someone else before too...

[@hawkstrike18]

@@robincrowflies Even if my latest reply ended up hidden: I basically shared nothing :p But no one wants to read or understand the whole story (there are segments of such things in various movies anyway). And there's no point in mentioning every detail, especially when everyone has something unnecessary to ramble on about. I try to focus on the important parts but even that is futile when ppl seem to like the negative ways in which they've been shaped and they aren't willing to change the problematic parts... This here is just an example.

[@donngu]

Aww it warms my heart that they’re both still punks!

[@asgart16]

It's crazy that those two are so old now. Back then they were so young and Bernie... was already old :D

[@davekaye5483]

Well you see, Bernie and his buddies Sean Connery and Christopher Lambert are actually a race of immortals who don't age. He can only be killed by decapitation, and is awaiting "The Gathering" where he and his fellow immortals battle to the death with the survivor receiving "The Prize," which enables its winner to gain unlimited knowledge of the universe. There can only be one. #Highlander #TheQuickening

[@Maverick.D.]

Dave Kaye lol!

[@tishsimonnet5376]

Dave Kaye this makes me so happy, it all makes sense now

[@brnhmorrhage]

Sean Connery faked his death

[@kikidulalinko5570]

50´s isn´t old you sound like an old persom

[@TheHSoko]

These Punks make sense in 2020!

[@alanhyt79]

Such a pleasure to watch! I was into the Dead Boys and the Sex Pistols in the late 70's, rejected the "norms" enforced by society, and am a yuge Bernie supporter. I feel related to those wonderful "mall punks."

[@JanderVK]

Hellyeah brother!

[@bperez8656]

😊😊😊

[@kikidulalinko5570]

why the beard though

[@hineraable]

People: It's just a phase Michele and Mike: *in their golden years and still punk as heck*

[@Arguments_only]

dude being 50 isnt golden years :D Golden years begins when you retire usually around 65

[@retrogore420]

Bernie is 100% the epitome of punk rock.

[@unclechico5981]

Oooooooooof

[@jasonkinzie8835]

He is definitely DIY.

[@Cavi587]

If you pull up to a punk concert and the frontman is just a dude in a tshirt and glasses, you know it's gonna be the best punk concert you've been to. Just look at The Descendets : D

[@MaximillionIeraci-v3y]

Cringe

[@FlowersAndRocks]

fuck yea. I once met him along with my parents on the rez and honestly? He's probably the most "chill" and sweetest politician I've seriously ever met. And it really doesn't seem like there's a facade, he's just... an actually decent person and politician ya'know?

[@veryveryold]

Badass socialist punks❤️ “All punks support Bernie” #Bernie2020

[@Fireglo]

"Punk is right wing" - Johnny Ramone.

[@mccookies3664]

J.J. Bullshit, punk is basically all socialist.

[@oomenacka]

Questioning authority is a core element of both socialism and punk culture. Right wingers by and large love the establishment and corporate media.

[@snow6094]

Eric Wuebbels Bernie isn’t socialist... nvm 🤦‍♂️

[@oomenacka]

@@snow6094 He's a New Deal Democrat or, social Democrat, during a time of massive wealth inequality and rampant neoliberalism. Whatever, it beats the status quo.

[@sneedmando186]

They never sold out ❤️

[@theoriginaljean3917]

Punks are something else 😂 they look so eccentric, but they’re full of wisdom when you chat them up.

[@KittensgiveMorbogas]

If you call perpetually staying a teenager, then yes, very smart. LMMFAO @you fool! 😂😂😂

[@LilChuunosuke]

What a lot of people dont seem to understand is that easily accessible education is a core value of punk. The current system benefits off of everyday people being poorly educated. The first step to changing the system is by everyone learning how it works and how it can be improved. I used to be friends with some punks who ran a "communist library." Educational books were loaned out on the honor system. No return by date. No late fees. People were given time to read and learn at their leisure and trusted to return the books when finished. Even the "dumb" punks I knew were genuinely interested in learning new things.

[@benmcnamara5572]

I love how they still have fucking cool hair cuts

[@PandoraJonesmodel]

As a former 80s mall punk , this makes me so happy!!

[@marcopolo3109]

how old are you now, and what career did you pursue?

[@TipppedScales1015]

@@marcopolo3109None of your business 😂😂😂

[@nico-ke1nn]

young punk living in texas right now! Love Bernie, sad he couldn’t win this year. I thank him so much for taking us seriously.

[@kikidulalinko5570]

lol why are so many suddenly calling themselves punks

[@kikidulalinko5570]

also why do many with beards call themselves punk lol that was usually from opposite cultures like wtf

[@nico-ke1nn]

well i can’t answer for everyone but I call myself punk bc I listen to punk music and agree with punk mindsets

[@th3suffering]

OMG, ive met her. She owned Mink Ink Tattoo in Kingman, AZ. I saw the original interview a long time ago but this is the first time seeing this one. What a small world!

[@subotnai1]

their social commentary was deep and thoughtful. Punk For Life

[@leolady6588]

33 years later and this mall punk clip is still current. Nothing new under the sun. Mike talks about programming in schools. Also political messaging in music they were listening to. This was all pre internet where you had to go out of your way to be well read and find information. Tv was very censored. Radio less so. Seeking out your own tribe was difficult if you weren't inclined to be mainstream. The governments don't want critical thinking or individualism to be encouraged. If you are wired differently, you are always that way. It's not something you can help despite decades passing. You don't change much. I think a good strong society is actually a utopian dream. Global society is still fractured and unstable and controlled despite world wars and pandemics and technologies. Bucking systems is not easy despite idealistic and genuine intentions.

[@lattefriend]

yup. the only individualism they push is the kind that compels you to be greedy as all hell. their little tiny cogs for the machine.

[@SkibidiWaPaPaPaPa]

This really gives me hope and totally made my day. Mike, Michelle and Bernie are wonderful people. We need more of them in this world.

[@BNL07604]

Yeah, the respect Bernie gave those people was honestly heart-warming.

[@donnavorce8856]

We wanted Bernie in the oval office. Old Joe's ok. But Bernie was first choice. Don't know if America will ever in the near future enjoy a choice of such a good man as Senator Sanders.

[@crackthefoundation_]

Jenna side joe?

[@giratina6665]

​@@crackthefoundation_ apparently that's 'ok'

[@greg6509]

This didn't age well as he turned into Genocide Joe

[@michellewhatshername5577]

It should have been Bernie in 2016

[@michellewhatshername5577]

@@greg6509then Genocide Trump came in and said, “hold my beer” It’s called “strategic voting” for a reason. Thanks bro.

[@psychicbyinternet]

This is so wholesome. I love that they support Bernie now too.

[@kylesanders8276]

You two were more salient on the way the world actually works in 1988 than most people today.

[@williamschutz4982]

I grew up in Burlington VT when Bernie was mayor. Really nice guy who made that town really great.

[@JoshuaDb_The_Witness]

this is so cool! GenX punks are STILL PUNKS! ❤

[@goodgrief888]

Unlike boomers, most of us didn’t sell out

[@cyberGEK]

Gen-X 💪💪

[@dlg5485]

Wow, it's unusual to find '80s punks that didn't turn into '00s selfish yuppies...it's refreshing.

[@karuymaru]

Tbh those "punks" were prob just fashion punks lol only true punks stay true to their political beliefs

[@arturintete2461]

bluealienqueen nah, that’s irrational.

[@arturintete2461]

Malum neither is that. The argument Blue tried to make is purely pointless semantics that make very little sense. Your attempt at trying to appear like the more rational human being has failed. Your hypocrisy is incredibly apparent.

[@dlg5485]

@@karuymaru What is it about these two that makes you think they're posers?

[@bperez8656]

Only commie punks stay punks Those were capitalist punks lol

[@AndyAcker]

Wow, what a wholesome update. It only took 4+ years for this to show up via the KZbin algorithms.

[@tidypeaches]

Ugh right??!!!

[@JasmineDaisy111]

Weird

[@erikwsince1981]

I would pay money to see Bernie interview them again. Just an off the cuff, shoot the breeze type interview, on their thoughts now.

[@juanpablovillarroel4486]

Watching this after the primary is so sad. Bernie was such and amazing candidate it almost doesn't feel real that a politician like that actually exists.

[@DI-uk9rj]

I love that they didn't change!

[@jakedavis5375]

Awwww I love everything about this video. Mike and Michele are so genuine and kind, and I love how all these years later they are still true to their beliefs and support Bernie. They were way ahead of their time! Thank you for bringing them together and interviewing them again all these years later!

[@AliasHSW]

Omg. Just watched the original clip and literally commented would like to see them react to this today. And now here we are.

[@j.f.32]

This changed my views on punks. Love these guys!

[@mari98_]

Folks like this are very inspiring, they’re well read and had a global perspective at a young age, loved her perspective on imperial war the US brings to other nations and how we take for granted the violence we have never experienced. When folks say conservatism is inevitable with age I look up to these folks as elders

[@aevox6518]

Actually I'm impressed by this interview ... love from India.... Share this love....

[@lvodniza]

It’s amazing how their subtitles are “Mall Punk”

[@benstephenson8993]

These are two wonderful people with the utmost integrity

[@jeff7775]

Mayor Pete, mayor mike Bloomberg, mayor Giuliani etc: there’s been a lot of US mayors in the public eye lately. Yup... Now THIS is a mayor! #bernie2020

[@LisaHouserman]

This was great I have watched a lot of the footage from back in the day and the mall punks were my favorites. Really glad you found her I remember last time you were just talking to the gentleman and you were hoping to find her. Thanks so much

[@vincentkings2393]

Gosh what sweet, genuine people those kids grew into.

[@mr.bodiddly7702]

Best thing I've seen on KZbin yet. :) Mike and Michele are great! Great job finding them for a follow-up interview

[@AiletaEyail]

I would love to see Bernie's reaction to this vid

[@t.n.3819]

I just KNEW that dude would have dreads now.

[@stefandrakche]

how?

[@calciferblack2409]

@@stefandrakche A feeling.

[@1mghd2]

@@stefandrakche to make it shorts, dreads (like what he has now) is the new mohawk. It is still 'radical/provocative' but also at the same time is much more practical (with mohawk you need to use hairspray everyday.. basically trying too much)

[@stefandrakche]

@@1mghd2 I had dreads, trust me man nothing practical, try sleeping frst week with em.

[@1mghd2]

@@stefandrakche sorry for that, never had the privilege to own a dreads. However, I stand corrected with dread as the new mohawk.. I see a lot of dreads among punks now.. especially in the anarcho and crust-punk side.

[@simplyselina]

This makes me so incredibly happy.

[@unifieddynasty]

America could've elected one of the most consistently genuine people ever to grace this world. An utter shame.

[@atomusbliss]

We did. The DNC stole it. Twice.

[@adamfindlay7091]

When they locked the doors on Bernie in '16 I knew I'd probably never vote again.

[@adamfindlay7091]

@@atomusbliss we ?

[@lisakukla459]

But now look at how much the national conversation has shifted because of Bernie's campaign. We're now seriously discussing things like M4A, free college, Union stuff, disability reform, all kinds of things we used to get laughed at for suggesting. It wouldn't have happened without Bernie. I think it's a shame how they coalesced to box him out, and I wish he would have won, but my god I'm glad he ran at all.

[@SarahJames777]

Progress is slow but steady.

[@NanaYawAforo]

most punks, and anarchists are actually well-read people

[@tomwobus1482]

The stupid ones usually tend to follow fashism...

[@johenderson3742]

Or, the musicians they listen to are. 🎸❤

[@davidmaltais2912]

No they aren't lol

[@amoureux6502]

​@@davidmaltais2912 maybe not the ones that dabble in the subculture for a bit but the ones that stick around seem to be

[@jeffdroog]

Who was saying they weren't? Don't be so contrary.

[@SerenaConcertina]

I’m so happy to find this! Immediately upon watching the interview on its own, I wished there was a Where Are They Now. Sometimes wishes do come true.

[@MeanStreamFraudCast]

I love listening to 80's American punks talk. It's always riding the line between "this kid knows nothing!" to "this kid is profound!" If you've never seen The Decline of Western Civilization, and want to see more of this kind of interview, and some bad ass punk shows, I recommend it.

[@talkingshadow]

That was very nice.. thanks guys, lotta love far away from Egypt

[@Merlincat007]

I love her "to heck with society" at 4:40 haha

[@covariance5446]

Yeah, she was real cute back then - probably not the first thing people think of when they think punks.

[@genocidecrusade6534]

@@covariance5446 it looks like 20 years of drug abuse took a toll on her

[@oktopussy9628]

@@genocidecrusade6534 When does she say that she misused drugs?

[@EllipsisTriangletrap]

@@genocidecrusade6534 More like she has dodged normal fashion and doesn't wear makeup like an average women. Your mind has been warped by these societal norms to expect a much less realistic or natural looking type of woman at that age you sad brainwashed sap. Sorry for your loss of connection with nature.

[@patrickbyrne5070]

It looks like your tiny amount of time on earth took a toll on your ability to even count. It was 88. Was that 20 years ago? You sad imbecile

[@nusaybaansar7506]

Masha'ALLAH tabarkALLAH. Two intelligent young people that didn't even have internet for deep research like us. Don't judge a book by its cover.

[@TexasTags]

Glad to see you both looking Happy & enjoying your lives - Bless Yall & your families 🕊

[@Aermydach]

We need more genuine, sincere and consistent politicians in every country. Bernie is welcome to run for Prime Minister here in Australia.

[@tanyasharadamba1264]

This is wonderful. We all lost so much when the nomination was so wringfully not given to Bernie. And here we are now... incomprehensible. Punks have always known what's up. 💘💞💘

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

I love that he’s a Bernie Bro. Dead Kennedys are touring right now. They’ll be in New York, Boston and Philadelphia this weekend!

[@elendil7]

Thank you Mike and Michelle.

[@jesslesinski]

These two humans just make me happy looking at them 🖤

[@SuperRastarob]

People like Mike and Michele made this world a better place. Great to hear from them again.

[@patrickbyrne5070]

Aw bless ‘em. That’s so cool after all this time. It should’ve been Bernie! Much love from UK 👊❤️

[@NanaYawAforo]

Bernie has always been the realest!

[@burbclavefutur1527]

They didn't sell out!

[@virtualyme7659]

I love this because I was just watching the other video and wondered what happened to these two people. I graduated in 1985 and I have to say I shared some of these two people's views of the world. I think it's awesome that I get to see them again after all these years ☮️💜

[@pyenapple]

This is charming as hell

[@HeyThereHiThereHoThere]

If your state hasn't voted yet, there is still time to make sure Bernie is the nominee. We need a massive outpouring of votes from people who don't normally vote. Please. We can't let Biden be the nominee.

[@amyill9280]

Plus most Independents in the primary vote for Bernie, and same with youth. The Dems who are greater than age 45 "vote blue no matter who," so they would reliably vote for Bernie in November _if_ he were to win the primary. Bernie has the best chance of beating Trump. Biden only has the population of Dems >45 years old. The Indep and youth won't turn out for Biden. He will lose against Trump.

[@tinaferr]

I wish they would postpone primaries til ppl aren't sick. It's not fair. Id say that even if trump won the dem primaries today lol

[@mick2spic]

Amy Ill No chance Biden loses against Trump. I love Bernie and wanted him more, but the youth have not come out to vote for him. They have came out to vote less for him than they did four years ago. And now Biden’s lead is insurmountable. The Question Bernie supporters need to ask is do you want to continue this insane corruption of Trump with horrific environmental policies, and his bumbling of the virus pandemic. Or someone like Biden, who is far from the perfect candidate. But Obama was also far from the perfect candidate but he didn’t set the country back a generation like Trump has. That is plenty reason to support Biden in the general election. Bernie will be supporting him fully because he knows what is at stake. And Bernie’s run was not a lost cause, there are many more people who support Medicare for all. And the next candidate who runs with that on their platform will have a better chance at winning the democratic primary.

[@tinaferr]

@@mick2spic I'm wondering if Biden wins the primary if they don't just put someone better in like Cuomo. Either way I hear you. I'm 1000000% a berner but writing him in is just asinine. Plenty of especially older people genuinely support Biden and we're not going to convince them otherwise, it's a rational response given their experiences with other "radical candidates" (I don't know why bernie's campaign didn't tone down the divisive "revolution" rhetoric and instead highlight his policy and record, which might have shown new people he's not actually THAT radical in practice...like you already have the ideological base, now go for the people you need to win this thing) I'm old enough to remember ross Perot and young enough to remember nader, 3rd party candidates/write ins take votes away from their closest candidate. If I have to vote Biden I will, I won't like it any more than anyone else, but do you really think it'll be easier to achieve our goals with trump or Biden in office?

[@mick2spic]

tinaferr Even if Bernie would have won the presidency it would have been hard for him to achieve our goals. It would depend on the senate turning democrat. And then convincing enough corporate / center democrats into supporting Medicare for All, which would not be easy. Even with Bernie getting elected Medicare I don’t think Medicare for All would be a realistic possibility for another 8 years. Kind of how it took awhile to get gay marriage accepted from when Obama was first elected until he left office. More and more people are coming around to the idea of Medicare for All. And for that Bernie has done great good for society. Just like Yang bringing universal basic income to the forefront and into serious discourse. Biden is going to do infinitely more on climate change than Trump, who is literally a catastrophe and needs to be thrown out of office before he does more damage to the planet. Trump even has had the gall to roll back environmental regulations during this pandemic. I do like how Bernie is pushing Biden to have a stronger platform in tackling climate change. Bernie knows that his chances are beyond slim and one good thing he could do now is push Biden more strongly combats global warming. Biden will help the working class much more than corporate Donny. Not as much as Bernie of course, but there is no comparison who is better between Trump and Biden. The one thing I think has hurt Bernie the most was him labeling himself a socialist. Now I know full well that there is a difference between democratic socialism that Nordic countries have had tremendous success with and communist countries like Venezuela. But to many uneducated Americans socialism is a dirty word that can automatically mean communism. And that is a hang up in this country from the Cold War days. And it’s a weapon that could be used very successfully against Bernie in the general election. I believe it’s a big sign that Trump and the Russians would prefer Trump go against Bernie than Biden. I think Bernie could certainly win against Trump. But Biden being the “safer” pick is much more likely to beat Trump. That is why voters have come out in force for him. Who can beat Trump is the number one issue. And many working class independents like Joe, just like the likes Obama. Joe has a big advantage in the battleground state of Pennsylvania against Trump. And has a good shot to win Wisconsin and Michigan. And has a shot to win Florida, where Bernie would not do well in Florida against Trump. I believe the next go around this country will have some younger candidates to pick up the mantle from Bernie, while having socialist views, but while not having the label of being a socialist hanging over them. Then we will get some real change. But people need to vote. Young people need to come out. But the left has time on its side. Older and more conservative folks will die and be replaced by younger sand more left leaning. There will continue to be battles for the soul of the Democratic Party in the future like there was between Hilary and Bernie. AOC will be a leader for the working class left. Just my thoughts on it all. I’m taking the long view and optimistic for the future.

[@vectorhold6489]

I respect people who stick with the same values they always had through the years.

[@lafuerza113]

Great historic interview & interesting to hear these two punkers speak today.

[@melanieelliott8417]

I am glad you found both these characters! Good to watch , even better to see that their basic out look held fast!

[@Soleilune1995]

Gives me a lot of hope, actually. If all of the modern punks, anarchists, and edgy memelords online continue to support Bernie's ideas, like these two did, then we will win in the longterm. Even if Bernie loses. Bernie wouldn't have made it this far back in the '80s. In the future, he will be the foundation.

[@hendrsb33]

It's interesting to see a retrospective of this old video that I saw for the first time a few months back. What I liked about it was that Bernie would take the time to actually go out and TALK to people on the street. Actually ask their opinions and respectfully get to know them in some way that the likes of Hillary or Joe Biden would never do-- or at least I get the impression they would never do. It shows human interest for someone to engage with someone who outwardly represents a possibly opposing viewpoint. That's called "getting to know your constituents". This is one of the reasons why I feel that Bernie supports people and not politics as usual.

[@TheReddShinobi13]

This man proves Punk doesn't die

[@ianbaker672]

Very heartwarming in these stressful times

[@Grimtheorist]

Got done watching this and realized I'd had a big ol' smile goin' the whole time 😀

[@brianwilliams9462]

If this isn't the most heartwarming thing I have seen in years....

[@craigrik2699]

awesome views, great then, great now! Lots a love you guys from New Zealand!

[@KenDanielMurphy]

Bernie understands the people. I wondered what happened to these guys! Thanks for sharing.

[@radiantmarshmallow2527]

Just found this today! Cool to see Bernie has been so consistent ❤️ Also cool to see that Mike and Michele are still "alternative" or whatever we're called. I'm in my 30s now and have always lived life against the flow. I always hoped I wouldn't ever change as I got older, and I haven't. ✌️🤟

[@patricklucas8008]

I love that you guys stayed true to ones own self. Peace & Love