Bernier says he doesn't need to be a feminist: 'I believe in people' | Power & Politics

Maxime Bernier, leader of the People's Party of Canada, calls policies aimed at gender parity a “kind of discrimination.” Bernier also discusses climate change and his efforts to build his fledgling party in this extended interview with Power & Politics.
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[@eemah4209]

A CBC interviewer who is involved in an interactive conversation. And she's listening. Really listening. How refreshing!

[@newfieman7094]

That's because when he wins he is gutting the CBC lol can't wait.

[@inspectionnegross8695]

Almost unbelievable

[@boshirahmed4444]

It's simple she finds him attractive duh.

[@hardleecure]

someone high up probably realized he has a decent shot and if they don't play nice, it's going to be worse.

[@tylerstadnyk2213]

RIGHT!

[@tasodionis2637]

Save Canada vote Mad Max in 2019.

[@rn4lrnfl915]

I will

[@joes7665]

I can't to vote for Mad Max and the team!

[@scottishbybirth4655]

For sure, I'm taking it to the Max.

[@thebassmaster1364]

Taso Dionis No, he wont win, he is just stealing votes from Scheer. Yes i like Bernier far more but we need to think realistically. He has 1/4 the numbers of the green party. Scheer is our best chance at ousting trudeau.

[@opqrt75]

@@thebassmaster1364 GIVE YOUR HEAD A SHAKE, WITHOUT MAX I WOULD NOT VOTE AS MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID THE SAME THING. SCHEER DOES NOT DESERVE ANY VOTES AND HE IS JUST AS CORRUPT AS TRUDEAU

[@garychynne1377]

very positive impression. mad max it is.

[@willp9226]

@@sachamm ?

[@oswaldjh]

@@sachamm Carbon isn't pollution, it's a natural occurring component of the air we breath.

[@thepainkiller4939]

Jerry Oswald Water is natural too. You can still drown in it.

[@oswaldjh]

@@thepainkiller4939 What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China?

[@thepainkiller4939]

Jerry Oswald My point is that just because something is natural, does not mean that it can't be harmful. You are right by saying that C02 is natural, but that does not mean it isn't a greenhouse gas.

[@trudeauphobicmooseater7263]

What no 15 mins of attack from CBC?? Very respectfully interviewer.

[@retiredshitposter1062]

the shut down CBC comments maybe working lol :P

[@d.j.tweets375]

Trudeauphobic Mooseater: Yeah, Thank God they're not all like Rosemary Barton or Wendy Mesley....

[@michellefreegirl6927]

Your name!! I can't stop laughing bahahahaha.

[@roldac]

Mesley would of been constantly interrupting not letting Mad Max finish his answers. Plus race baiting at every opportunity.

[@peterhessels2903]

CBC is helping Trudeau by promoting Bernier

[@SociallyTriggered]

This is how a real reporter conducts an interview. CBC needs to do more interviews like this.

[@smilingarcher5093]

She did slip in a very underhanded verbal stunt at 13:57 though. Bernier said his candidates must be against (mass) immigration. She turned that to be "anti-immigrant". There's also a jump cut thrown in there immediately after Bernier says that white supremacists aren't welcome, so I have no clue if he corrected her on that verbal slight of hand.

[@MGKoutdoors]

Smiling Archer Im on your side, but if you watch again, Bernier says anti imigration first lol. He was describing the type of peope he doesnt want as candidates and she just repeated what he said to start her sentence, a common communication technique to reiterate to the person you heard and understood them.

[@smilingarcher5093]

@@MGKoutdoors Yes, that's what I was referencing. Max says "anti-immigration", but then she takes that to mean "anti-immigrant". Those are very different positions that she's conflating. Again, given the immediate jump cut, I don't know if Max corrected her obvious stunt.

[@MGKoutdoors]

Smiling Archer Yeah man i get your point to. My main problem was with the jump cut, we didnt get to hear that part of the conversation play out. Very shady. Lol

[@smilingarcher5093]

@@MGKoutdoors Yep. Very typical of CBC and their ilk.

[@ae.5812]

This was a well-balanced interview. Nice to see calm political debate

[@Ageust2]

CBC wants Bernier to thrive. He will split the conservative party and we will go back to decades of liberal government like the 90s until a conservative coalition forms again. Such is the cycle of Canadian politics

[@e.rijpstra6152]

@@Ageust2 now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

[@Dettenwald]

@@Ageust2 I'd rather fight and vote for a party with which I agree the most than stick to a party that essentially runs to the centre and never really fight for what I believe in.

[@paulauchon5455]

@@Ageust2 Yeah I think that in their view, Bernier will lower conservative votes. But I think they fail to understand that a lot of people who voted for Trudeau did not know how left he really was. I think Bernier will also massively lower liberal votes. Just in Québec, many people who voted for the CAQ, will be incline of voting for MB... we'll see...

[@AnimeBeefRandoms]

@@Ageust2 Good point.

[@vetski6668]

Well done CBC,I was expecting a hit piece.

[@nancymisner9226]

Wendy Mesley did the hit piece - she personifies everything wrong with cbc

[@terrendously]

This particular reporter seems much more balanced and non-partisan than many others at CBC.

[@rustyscrapper]

He pledges to cut the CBC budget and you expect them to be anything less then neurotic lunatics hyperventilating into paper bags because the monster across from them wants their kids to starve?

[@vetski6668]

@@rustyscrapper LOL drama much

[@xandercorp6175]

Such an obvious puff piece is weak journalism, honestly. I wish Bernier all the best in his efforts, but he needs to evolve past the need to "showcase his humanity" by ordering food in a formal interview while the interviewer provides not even enough resistance for us to test the core of his platform and character. We the body politic need more from our journalists than warm, friendly inquisitiveness that sits there passively, only ever speaking up to provide an awaited cue for the interviewee to roll out his talking points and strike sympathetic poses like an over-engineered presentation.

[@aeraser83]

Lol I loved his face when she asked if he has anything in common with Trudeau. Great interview!

[@truthseeker4690]

Aaron P Priceless! He appeared to be genuinely trying hard to come up with anything at all. And countless Canadians would likely respond the exact same way if asked. Myself, I simply cannot relate to our PM and his beliefs in a political or personal manner in any way shape or form. He's truly an odd duck. On the other hand, I met Bernier last night and he seems to be the real deal. Many thousands of people are now resonating with him and his ideas on how this country should be run. Once everyone finds out who he is and what he stands for those thousands will turn into millions! Trudeau and Scheer have definitely got their work cut out for themselves in 2019.

[@aeraser83]

I wish I was able to attend the Calgary meetup yesterday, but there was no way I would have been able to make that drive in time. Make no mistake though Bernier will also have his work cut out for him especially if by-elections are called. It's going to require all of his supporters to get the PPC elected.

[@yannickfinesaute1521]

Aaron P true, he will have less chance to pull it off since he left the Conservative movement with its greater base. Should be campaigning harder to get himself know better to the public. I despise Trudeau and Scheer is such a fraud

[@torokitoroki]

Keep it up Max! Grateful first gen immigrant here rooting for ya!

[@Scorehound]

I've always leaned left most of my life on social issues, but Bernier seems like a honest politician that isn't putting up a smokescreen like the others. I do not agree with all of his positions, but I am willing to compromise on a few of my "beliefs", if you will in order to have an honest leader who isn't going to cater to people just to make friends. I believe Bernier is the real deal. I think that when the election comes around he is going to shake things up and make people really think about the leaders they support, both on the left and right side of the political spectrum.

[@Fern635]

I'm just happy to see a politician who isn't afraid to express an opinion and engage in debate.

[@Scorehound]

@@Fern635 Agreed.

[@superdjaction]

Scorehound How can you have a left leaning ideology with that profile picture?

[@jasonprice9823]

Jaction an eagle? What’s so weird about that? Or is nature now owned by the left?

[@kurtvonuniverse7493]

Me too.

[@Dettenwald]

He seems to be a nice guy who can logically defend his position and eloquently answer questions. I will be turning 18 next year, and I am delighted to cast my first vote for the People's Party of Canada in 2019.

[@beastlyendeavour9184]

Have you checked out the PPC website or Facebook page. Don't be afraid to get involved. Meet other like minded neighbors in your local electoral district association.

[@martinliehs2513]

Our EDA has a number of university age students on board, as well as older guys like me. Max is attracting a good cross section of Canadian citizens to the PPC.

[@Dettenwald]

@@martinliehs2513 I have no idea how to find my local EDA, but I assume it has not been established yet. I live in the Scarborough Centre riding in Ontario.

[@Dettenwald]

@@beastlyendeavour9184 Yeah, I am interested in joining and volunteering for my riding. However, I might not be able to stick for a long time because I might move out of Ontario for university.

[@martinliehs2513]

@@Dettenwald as mentioned by another poster, best way is by searching "People's Network-Ontario" on Facebook. I just saw a post there from a guy looking to form a Scarborough EDA. If you are not on FB, I would suggest contacting the PPC through their website. They should hopefully be able to put you in contact with other PPC members in your riding.

[@parsoumash]

6:38 The look on Bernier's face after hearing that question 🤣

[@GroundZeroRadioOfficial]

That was priceless... I think that's the first time I seen him act like a politician and try to dodge the question.

[@ROMA--AETERNA]

Yes!!!! Ha-ha-ha!! 🤣😆

[@beastlyendeavour9184]

Yes, he had to be careful to swallow his food and not choke on it. He appears to maintain composure, self control and not look or act like a political bot.

[@lildragon6415]

The more I hear this man speak, the more I like him.

[@edwardlee3419]

So true about the Paris Accord. Never realized what BS it is. I'm surprised they gave Bernier press time. It's great!

[@peterhessels2903]

Why wouldn't they? A vote for Bernier helps Trudeau get in.

[@edwardlee3419]

@@peterhessels2903 Yeah you could argue that position. There are enough Social Justice Warriors that have no problem with Canada's failed trade deal with the United States, and failed pipeline project whose full cost has already been paid for by the our Country's General Revenue funds when we as a population never signed up for such action at the time when they elected him. And yes they still think Trudeau has really really pretty hair. So I agree, you can argue that position. I am evermore in favor of the PPC as every day goes by -and Bernier continues to speak more and more sense and comes up with concrete ideas to solve actual problems that our Country faces and not just the problems that exist in Unicorn land.

[@marcosreal11]

@@peterhessels2903 A vote for Sheer helps Trudeau on. Works both ways.

[@justincase4892]

@@peterhessels2903 The PPC are attracting votes from former liberals, NDPers, and the conservative party. I'm one of them. So I'm not so sure about the vote splitting scare.

[@sina6092]

"Now thats a damn fine lobster" -Jordan Peterson

[@robertosanjuan2961]

the real man for the next Canada's Prime Minister.....voting for his party. BTW, I believe in climate change as a natural phenomenon, nothing to get panic, carbon tax is not necessary and I don't believe that the world will end in 12 years.

[@maurahart]

It takes courage to step out of the crowd and go a different direction especially when the crowd likes to mob and destroy. He seems to work hard and is capable. His values and his honesty are refreshing.

[@alex-ie6eu]

Thank you Vassy! I would have not expected such a fair interview from CBC Maxime 2019!!

[@TECHN01200]

Bernier for PM!

[@kasheba9]

I've met Mad Max in person. He's a great guy who is very honest and sincere. Canada needs someone like him to get Canada back. Vote PPC!!! Please spread the word

[@Freedomtoascend]

Finally Canada may have the leadership it needs in these difficult times! Great impression from Maxime Bernier!

[@rancher6820]

Finally the right answer; balance of power and then Max for 2023

[@ivontouschier9512]

2023 will be too late!

[@rancher6820]

@@ivontouschier9512 The balance of power will give Max the exposure that he requires and then the rest will fall into place. Don't split the vote ane let Trudeau in again.

[@woahwoah2207]

He needs to get in in 2023...

[@bboooobbyy]

I like this guy. great interviewer too.

[@theronash7269]

Very good interview. Love him more after listening to him. Man of principle and values. A sincere patriot.

[@quintensaari7553]

Why didn't this guy become the Conservative leader? Now I'm pissed off.

[@patachon4882]

I hope you find the info you want. It’s out there.

[@melikgibsson5539]

he is the best,

[@gregorycraig9882]

Wow, ask a question get an answer. I'm liking this man.

[@ColtonMetal]

Max is impressing the hell out of me. Really loving how logical this guy is.

[@charlesknowlton7198]

He's impressive alright. Like the time he left sensitive defense papers at his girlfriend's apartment. VERY impressive guy.

[@EmbraceMaking]

"Do you have anything in common with Justin Trudeau?" ..... lol ....

[@billmcillwraith6155]

I think CBC should do a documentary on climate change with both sides represented , with only facts presented !

[@mbergeron4965]

Max for PM, unleash Canada's economical potential. I think Mr. Bernier and President Trump would work well together.

[@slimsaiyan4215]

I agree man I like this guy gets got my vote.

[@VintageKimchi]

if CBC is paying Mad Max is eating #FreeFood

[@sirenavg5467]

This is the first time I’ve ever seen Vassy not be so overly protective of Trudeau. Maybe she’s seeing what the rest of us Canadians are seeing in Maxime, PM 2019!🇨🇦

[@pauldilley8974]

You don't need to be a feminist to believe in EQUALITY

[@ginosmovies]

Nothing more to discuss, vote for Maxime Bernier!

[@melikgibsson5539]

yes, I agree

[@philippeplouffe5332]

That interview was civil. We need more of that, the interview is a process to get to know better the interviewed people and their ideas. I hope the age of the interviewer taking all the place and being polarized is slowly going away.

[@ryanb4364]

This is a phenomenal format for an interview - more of this!

[@stratatk5724]

Running on the only form of identity politics that matters for the Government of Canada - Canadian identity!

[@DRDRYWALL1969]

It’s too bad that people with true passion like Bernier never get power he’s like Harper and most likely have Canada’s best interest at heart

[@DuartMaclean]

Given that Alberta may choose to disembark from Canada, I consider that Maxime Bernier is possibly our best opportunity for keeping all of our provinces together within Canada. I do not know him well, however I have listened to his talks by video and I am impressed by his passion to make all of Canada strong and self-sufficient. I encourage all to listen to Maxime Bernier's talks, and to consider that he may be an important solution to preventing the break-up of Canada. A.D.M.

[@TSARMOTAF]

LOL. You lose 1 election in 14 years and you want to separate? What a bunch of snowflakes.

[@TSARMOTAF]

You lose 1 election in 14 years and you want to separate? Snowflake. lol

[@lunachilde2000]

Love love LOVE MAX! Been my choice since before he left the Cons. Proud founding member of the PPC too!

[@doggydeeds]

In 2019 I'm voting for the first time in my life, Maxime has got my vote Time to make Canada great again. Feminism is causing damage, all it's doing is seperating our country with identy politics. Women have it it as good as men in this country for 30 years. It's a bogus movement

[@theronash7269]

9:40. A body of science says that the science is settled. Almost 34,000 scientists disagree. Look into it.

[@Walter-jv5kr]

Feel the Bern!

[@heatherskinner4949]

I've been saying Maxie's Moxie! But Feel the Bern is also good!

[@davidgiroux9425]

Liberals will

[@matthewdeon4164]

Wow reading these comments there seems to be hope for Canada vote mad max my minds made up time for a real change

[@WiseOneDiva]

This was actually one of the best interviews I've seen of Maxime Bernier. I'm truly impressed CBC. I wish most of your reporting & interviewing was this balanced. I cannot stand Rosemary Barton.

[@neoarmour]

VOTE MAXIME BERNIER AND THE PPC! The Conservative party are woke liberals now!

[@ESUSAMEX]

As an American, I hope Canada votes for "Mad Max."

[@TheRelger]

I voted for Mad Max. This was a pleasant change for CBC. Maybe they see the writing on the wall.

[@michaelharder9737]

"Do you have anything in common with Justin Trudeau?" *Wide eyes and sharp inhale*

[@debbiep99]

I liked this interview. The interviewer was not attacking but listening to what he was saying.

[@JonnyTightLipzs]

Very smart man. 👏

[@torro8234]

Found hope for Canada!

[@DavidsaurusRex]

This was a genuinely good interview, well done on both sides. Proud to be a member of the PPC! Mad Max was great when he visited Calgary last week.

[@MrClassiness]

It's weird to see a Canadian politician who wants to serve Canadians.

[@nicolasderuiter1699]

Oh man, I love that frank and honest dialogue

[@hassanalinoo]

I love you Bernier

[@owen_nx]

A balanced interview. We need more interviewers like this.

[@stevemurphy88]

I don't like feminist interviewer, hate CBC, don't like to call myself a canadian. I have to admit the interviwer did a very good and polite job, the food looks good, CBC did a good job hiring this woman, and maybe if Maxime Bernier is elected I'll start to identify as a Canadian! It's scary how 15 minute interview can make me change my mind that easily!

[@whatdidujustsay2094]

She isn't that good.

[@justincase4892]

Although I am a proud Canadian I do understand your point Steve. Before I became aware of the PPC I was honestly going to abstain from the next election. I could not vote for mr. Sunny ways or that kid from Leave it to Beaver. And it distressed me. Now , I can't wait for the election, so for once I can finally vote FOR someone, rather than AGAINST someone. PPC in 2019!

[@saphire1026]

Good luck, and God bless you, Max!

[@rodneyjsnider8540]

1) Cut corporate welfare to the CBC and other leach media corporates 2) Stop monopoly held by Telus/Bell/Rogers telecommunications lower rates similar to USA/Mexico 3) Stop gender creep and divisive vertigo phobia 4) Lower business and personal taxes 5) Cut regulations and 50% less lawyers in political and bureaucratic positions (what happen to the baker, business builder and candlestick maker) 6) Et cetera, etc, etc

[@edbouchard1720]

Rodney Snider / One of the clause which rings a warning bell the strongest is the “ Lawyers “ look at the corruption to our southern border greedy lawyers are running rampant there and infiltrated every aspect of their constitution turning that nation into a Casino. A partnership between corrupt politicians and lawyers results in Scar Face Agenda.

[@AnnaLVajda]

Considering he only lost to Scheer by a small amount tells me he has much support from Conservatives already and he appeals to other groups also.

[@Krusty-kl5ej]

The only reason he lost was because Scheer's campaign paid for some Liberals to cross the aisle to vote in the leadership convention.

[@djketler]

Loved his reaction to "do you have anything in common with Justin Trudeau?"... priceless.

[@ClihtYeastwood]

“Do you have any in common with the chicken head” 🤣🤣🤣

[@MsSweetlizzie]

#GOMAXGO! 👍❤️🇨🇦👍FINALLY A LEADER WHO SPEAKS CANADIAN!

[@vegtamvanderveg]

" I would have in place the best economic environment (lower taxes and regulations, more competition) for the private sector to find solutions" Right on! I love this guy. He believes in people, and I also believe in mankind to find solutions to our problems when given the freedom to, without impediments from government. That is the key!

[@Natsariyth]

It’s been too long not having this man as Canada’s PM!!

[@beastlyendeavour9184]

Jeesh, alot of PPC, Mad Max support here. Hope in my fellow Canadians is returning. I thought it was just me who recognized a decent person who made sense when he spoke. Friends, please get involved and help propel this movement into power.

[@tblitz33]

Make Canada great again! vote Mad Max 2019

[@atomicb8222]

6:38 loool hahaha. What a question...what a look....what an answer. Like asking him what he has in common with a watermelon. Go Max go.

[@cga9738]

As Prime Minister it would be interesting to know how a meeting with Trump would go. The likely agree on far more than Trump and Trudeau.

[@scourdx]

You can't impose climate change tax when the biggest three countries of the world - China, India & USA create all the world pollution. If you want to change climate, we have to stop telling people to pay up when it is common sense that helps you reduce waste. 1. Stop investor to keep home empty. Home is for living not for use for stock market. Why built when no one is going to live in it. 2. Built universities in the country where students want to go. So often our universities accept more foreign students and neglect local students. The artificial inflating the tuition fees put students in debt. Why not tell universities to build their campus in foreign soil so you waste less with migration & paper work. Keep it simple. It will also keep the education price down. Everyone wins 3. Product waste & refusal to allow user repair their own device. So often we are forced to buy newer and newer product. We should impose law to allow user to able to fix their own device without throwing them out. Make it a mandate that all product need blue print so we encourage 3rd party fixing & keep the cost of consumer device low. 4. Stop cater to lobbiest who want to monopolized. This brings no competition & allows one group to profit off their citizens. Innovation is a key driver & most often patent troll keep it from becoming a reality. Government should add innovation clause where anyone can make product but if the company only keep it at design state and not bring forth the product, they should not allow to profit off their ideas. Stop supporting lazy people.

[@lalaland7205]

Go Max , go. The only hope for Canada 2019.

[@rsahota5325]

Strong 3rd party is a good thing, or people get screwed like with Rogers and Bell

[@robertolsen4140]

As long as Max Bernier refers to himself as a Canadian and not a Quebecer, I will vote for him.

[@tommarceau4165]

You can be both mate

[@megscott222]

Maxime for PM, he's a good man and a genius! Speaking as a woman on feminism, I find the idea of to be sexist. We're equal to men but not the same. Feminism feels like trying too hard to change outcomes rather than to equalize circumstances. There's an important difference.

[@neoarmour]

The woke doesn't believe in real feminism. That's why they let men dominate women in sports.

[@megscott222]

@@neoarmour very true!

[@4eversuju]

I really think this guy deserves more support. He's honest, and most importantly, he's logical! What has the world come to these days...people don't just have to support the Liberals or Conservatives. Is there anything we can do to help this guy with more support?

[@tasteslikeawesome]

uhhhhhh is she rubbing her foot on his leg

[@jameslian995]

I'm worried that the only reason the CBC gave him a fair interview is because they hope it would split the conservative vote. To me, if you are truly conservative, there is only one choice. But to the leftist CBC, this could be a tactic to help Trudeau. Alright, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and consider this good work. If the CBC starts smearing Max when it is evident he has a chance to be PM, that would show their true colors.

[@EEYore-py1bf]

They already tried to smear him JJ a different interview by spending the whole thing saying he was funded by American billionaires.

[@heatherskinner4949]

WOW! Kudos to CBC! If you continue to do fair interviews like this, I might just start paying attention to you again ('cuz I gave up on you ages ago) . Best/Fairest interview I've seen you do in YEARS! Mad Max for PM! Give 'em your Moxie, Maxie!!!!

[@peterwest758]

This is a very good interview. The questions are good and I have to say he was able to respond without interruption. 😊

[@87sabbo]

The next Prime Minister of Canada

[@silkhead44]

I care that my daughter was hired because she is competent and not to fill a quota

[@stevenlandry3]

She did a great interview, I was able to get the information that I wanted and not a defensive interviewee because of a bad interviewer. Thanks for once CBC

[@jrodrc4137]

Wow, thank you CBC for not doing a hit piece on Mad Max. GO MAX GO!!!

[@reji8143]

PPC, the only party bothered about the future of the country.

[@alexandriacustoms]

Much more fair questioning than the other interview. Great conversation and GO MAX!

[@carolweideman1905]

I am looking more into his party. I agree with him on many issues.

[@tedwazonek7956]

Do you have anything in common with Justin Poodeau…long pause, long stare…lol, priceless!!!

[@ww7116]

I never thought I would ever admire and respect a politician until now. God I hope he makes PM.

[@1966cambo]

I wish to publicly say sorry i should have voted for Max but went with Sceer. Max is not from the old gaurd and seems to genuinely care about this country and it’s people! Lets get him in there this time!

[@peoplespartyofcanadavideos8385]

One of my favorite interviews I have seen by CBC in the last ten (10) years....

[@sikpuppet2656]

Notice how she focused on him not being a feminist.

[@lhenderson3285]

Straight up .... Mad Max for PM

[@woodwalker6025]

What a lovely and competent interview. Keep it up CBC!!

[@lanetomkow6885]

I got Bernier's back. Peoples Party is rising.

[@timothykoivu4753]

This is the CBC that I grew up with.... excellent interview..... Please continue to grow professionally.

[@marlenesmith7950]

Don't trust the CBC at all, I like Bernier, but really don't want Trudeu back in. Nothing he has done since elected was on his platform and as a female I am insulted by his callousness towards women in cabinet and if I was one, I would be ashamed to be one, since they were not chosen on their ability but because they had certain body parts, totally sexist. While I really appreciated the interview I believe CBC should absolutely be publically defunded, it used to be relevant but for a long time they have had too much political power and feed at the trough that hard working Canadians who struggle to pay into. I'll keep an open mind and ear for Bernier as I believe he is the voice of most Canadians I know.

[@gregorybook7821]

VOTE PPC break the cycle.

[@susanbernier4836]

This was was quite pleasant to listen to. They both did an awesome job!! Nice to hear what he had to say without interruptions 👍 to the interviewer.

[@ivozanette7010]

Mad Max is one of the smartest people in politics today. PM Bernier has a very nice sound to it!!!