Gracias por presentar la Bersa.Saludos desde Argentina.
@guerom13675 жыл бұрын
Every time I c this gun I want it more and more
@quentinham59084 жыл бұрын
I also have it, its a great pistol! Dont listen to the tactical elitist d bags that say "name brand or your dead"! Ive had my tpr9 for a year and a half its seen almost 5000 ronds. The only misfeeds were due to me not inserting the magazine positively, and the only failure to eject i experienced was winchester NATO white box and that was 2x out of a shipment of 500 from gunbroker. Seriously, its a fantastic firearm you will not regret spending the 350 bucks! Little tip, dont bother with the promags, just suck it up and buy the mecgar magazines from eagle imports at 50 bucks a piece. The pro mag is trash...
@huracan2001733 жыл бұрын
@@quentinham5908 those that say name brand or you're dead don't have a clue. Bersa is an awesome company. It provides lifetime factory warranty, and their guns are being used by multiple law enforcement agencies in latin america. Trust me, proud argentinian here hehe
@zszs1235 жыл бұрын
Bersa best kept secret excellent tools very underrated Very reliable and decently priced and quality great video thanks
@damionfisher56635 жыл бұрын
This pistol is value for money.
@ZMOA20065 жыл бұрын
I have a Bersa TPR9, great gun, strong and reliable a real gem! I’m really happy with it, this pistol is a new product here in Canada
@dougstricker62714 жыл бұрын
I've owned mine for two months. I've ordered a second. Great accuracy, not much kick, fun to shoot, and my girlfriend LOVES it...wants it to replace her CCW. She's better with it than I am. Good for her.
@ryanwlambert5 жыл бұрын
I just got the TPR9c last week, based in large part on your review. It is everything that I was hoping it to be. Thanks for the hard work putting these reviews together, it makes it a lot easier on those of us who can't get our hands on some of the less ubiquitous guns on the market who don't want to settle for what is available locally.
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
R U still happy with your 9C after two years? Every review I saw as been very complimentary of this pistol. Im wondering if still available as a new gun?
@GBGuns3 жыл бұрын
They are changing importers so ThomasNet may be dry for a bit, but yes I love this gun. It's a little wide, but very comfortable to shoot.
@richdubbya Жыл бұрын
That's the one Im intetested in. It take the 17rd mags? How's the trigger? You mod it at all(sights, and stuff)? How are the stock sights?
@jeremiahmiller76194 жыл бұрын
I've been researching heavily for the best do-it-all handgun for me under $500 (mostly through forums and your videos) and I'm pretty damn sold on this Bersa. Thanks so much for your videos, they're amazingly informative and entertaining!
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
This is my nightstand gun. Excellent firearm.
@bigyanko3604 жыл бұрын
Taurus Th9 ,Beretta Px4 storm and Sars Cm9 Also are great for your budget
@davidsawyer60035 жыл бұрын
So good to see someone that carries something besides a Glock As always, I like your reviews.
@tybailey94285 жыл бұрын
I bought the tpr9c. Fantastic pistol I carry in a old leather holster it was only thing I could find the only problem is the finish. Mine has a little rust on the slide
@blackbart84515 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice little pistol! Have not really looked at the Bersa pistols before. Will have to check one out sometime! Thanks for the review! As always very enjoyable and knowledgeable review!
@SantiagoAriasEskapa5 жыл бұрын
Dear Graham, the TPR9c 17+1 is coming soon, also the full frame BP9 17+1.
@robertlyons45405 жыл бұрын
Oh wow... I wish I would have read this before I commented LOL. But I used to have a tpr9c kept it for about a year wish I had it now only reason I got rid of it was because of the magazine capacity and how hard it was to find replacements or one with more capacity that would fit it.. 17 + 1 would be great all day at the range.. hopefully there's a magazine sleeve on it from the factory.
@robertlyons45404 жыл бұрын
@Zach cash Its the same as the full size just with locking system..
@richki.245 жыл бұрын
Bersa TPR9 full size is on my next purchase list ...
@hansvonmannschaft90625 жыл бұрын
I'd humbly recommend you to take a look into the the same version with a threaded barrel, if you need one, of course. www.bersa.com.ar/pistola-bersa-tpr9x-en.html Hopefully they're not hard to get, because I want one bad (5" barrel woot that's 1911 ground)
@gamingcowboy19514 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend one I love mine and will never regret buying it
@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG5 жыл бұрын
Great tabletop as always Graham! Not by ignoring them outright or anything, but you’ve really made me visually seek out the Bersa line in the local gun shops, where the constant mooches look at me like I have 15 heads because my every purchase is not a Glock. Oh well, looking forward to the range (and one of my favorites on here) and “What’s for dinner” segment 😁👍🏽
@fmart33155 жыл бұрын
I carry my tpr9c in a v3 Stingray holster by Clinger Holsters, it’s a great little iwb holster that’s can be carried anywhere on you waist...I’ve been carry it since April and it’s enjoyable.
@davidjanuszewski50205 жыл бұрын
nice presentation, love the take-down and those frame-rails. Over-all a very nice pistol.
@patricioclavijo27873 жыл бұрын
I own one. In my country which is next to Argentina is rather expensive. But it is still super worth it regarding the features and reliability tbh
@rossgreenzweig5 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Bersa TPR9C's one is an earlier firestorm mini and absolutely love them!! What a great pistol for the money! Thanks for the table top review 👍👍
@luccianomolaro71145 жыл бұрын
Firestorm are you stuck in 2a hell which is California. Lol
@rossgreenzweig5 жыл бұрын
@@luccianomolaro7114 no I live free in Pennsylvania, happened to have a guy getting rid of a collection and picked it up for super cheap and it was never shot NIB, It is the same gun as the TPR9 the slides and lowers and interchangeable..
@diehard39263 жыл бұрын
Check out the trigger reset that's nice I bet it fires real fast
@flyfishing1016 ай бұрын
I have the two tone first, and because I like it so much, I got the tpr9cmx compact threaded one. I already have 226 and 229, so the whole family and remote ones are united now😊
@Q.Lawrence5 жыл бұрын
I want to try one of these. There aren't any in my area though.
@user-jetmachinist5 жыл бұрын
I just saw a video of the upcoming Bersa firearms . The TPR9CL with 17 rounds and TPR9XP and the BP9CC fullsize with 17 rounds.
@stephanstrickland63734 жыл бұрын
We love these things up in Canada lots of my friends bought a TPR or the old pro getting one myself soon
@solomonmarcus54963 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Bernadelli P-One. Great review especially the part about the fully supported chamber.
@makertime62965 жыл бұрын
Own it. This gun is a sleeper. Well built all metal. FYI...the Hogue 17030 (Glock) grip fits well. Have to work it on but makes for a nice hold on this gun.
@davejoerger8928 Жыл бұрын
I have a Tpr9c in the black finish. I'm not usually a fan of two tone but i think it looks good with the Tpr9c and Tpr9.
@Rc-Adventurers5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I love mine, had no issues. But I have to be careful because I can ride the slide releases times.
@bear10565 жыл бұрын
Bersa guidance on break-in for TPR9 and TPR9C is minimal (200rds), and they do not like the shooting of +P with them. Seems very conservative. Duotone finish on my TPR9 is pretty tough. Plan to use them a lot until I can get some Grand Powers.
@diehard39263 жыл бұрын
This thing looks Ace this might be my next purchase the gray finish not the black
@robertoberman24034 жыл бұрын
Have the Tpr9c in 2 tone over a year now
@martincalcopietro95374 ай бұрын
Hi, greatings from Argentina!! I think that the full size lacks the frame lock, because it's disegned for the police and military forces. The Thunder 380, 22 and the TPR9C added the frame lock to make points for the USA import system.
@ratagris215 жыл бұрын
Muy Bueno for the price. I'm glad that this doesn't have a built in lock device. They're useless to begin with. Good review as always. No pinky swearing involved.
@fedebsas65313 жыл бұрын
I own a tpr9 cerakote treated bersa and it's awesome. Bersa first hand owners have life time guarantee... at least here in Argentina.
@martincalcopietro95374 ай бұрын
The Thunder 22lr predecessor it's called Bersa 23 and it didn't have the frame lock, it didn't need it for USA import back then
@Chris-yy5pj5 жыл бұрын
I never liked two tone but it slowly grew on me through this video damn it😂
@elblitzb4 жыл бұрын
Is there any version of the tpr9 with the key safe of tpr9c? I like it cause of kids
@mikes11725 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these back about 6 months ago and here is my take. Ergo's, Take down, functions-controls, excellent. I do however, think the trigger is too sharp on its sides and for whatever reason I cannot shoot this pistol to save my life as my groups are terribly inconsistent. The plastic grip panels seem extremely cheap to me and way too slick a fail in my opinion. I like the appearance of this pistol, the trigger reset is crazy short but I think the issue I must be having are the sights as they just don't work for me. I have likely 200-300 rounds through mine, functioned 100 percent with range ammo and recoil impulse is pleasant. Good Luck with yours Graham. I think mine will be going up for sale with the arrival of a Coonan .357 magnum.
@miguelgarr5765 жыл бұрын
Just in case, Bersa guns have combat sigth and not target sight. You constantly shoot low? Thats why. Regards
@chuckles470s95 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome. 👍
@garetz20113 жыл бұрын
Is the firing pin retracted when the decocker drops the hammer or the only safety measure employed on this moment is the firing pin safety?
@appliedperformance7735 жыл бұрын
I just gave a guy shooting one of these a private class last week. Few little things to be desired but it ran 400-450 rounds.
@GBGuns5 жыл бұрын
What would you change?
@appliedperformance7735 жыл бұрын
Graham Baates Honestly just the grip texture. Would have liked to have more of a checkered front and back strap. Maybe a little on the sides. I’d like to get the trigger to roll through a bit more consistent in DA but not a big deal. Other than that it was pretty awesome. He was using leather holster. I would imagine for another model.
@robertlyons45405 жыл бұрын
Will the fullsize magazine fit in the TPR9C?
@plantguy100 Жыл бұрын
I haven't had much luck trying this method, but wondering if a Sig 226 holster would work for the Bersa TPR9. Specs and shape are very close.
@GBGuns Жыл бұрын
If you go leather you're likely to find a closer fit, but yes, holster support has been one of the drawbacks
@jeffking48282 жыл бұрын
Which handgun would you recommend?? the Rex Zero 1S or the Bersa TPR? which has the better trigger??
@Fede_uyz3 жыл бұрын
15 is marked so you know whether your mag is fully loaded or almost. Me personally, a 15/17 rnd magazine i'd count it as basically full and wouldnt worry too much about it. Yet a 11-12/17 i'd already take notice.
@ronmoman-v9n Жыл бұрын
Nice video I have the tpr9 full size, one very nice gun, and built like tank.Iuse fritz ceramic coating on all my guns. Put some TRUGLO TFO night sights.
@RANDOMNATION9074 жыл бұрын
"For More Specs Use The Internet" . . . Hilarious. Thank you. Also, I'm a mechanic and 'Gutentight' is also the term for 'German Torque Specs'.
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
It drives me nuts when people complain that I don't spout off specs. If you're watching a video you have internet access. Why would anyone EVER trust a KZbin video over manufacturer for specifications?
@ik044 жыл бұрын
My TPR9 is the most accurate pistol I have ever owned. Gotta shoot NATO 124gr. ammo to get the real accuracy, though.
@ryanwlambert5 жыл бұрын
Can you offer your opinion about how the TPR9 and TPR9c compare to the CZ P-09 and P-07? Before I committed to getting the TPR9c, the P-07 was my alternative choice (well, also the Rex Zero-1cp but that was outside of my price range). I saw the CZ and Bersa lines as being very comparable in many ways; to the extent that CZ has a better reputation, it seemed to be a reflection of better marketing than actual quality or performance; and the price difference between the Bersa TPR series and the CZ P-07 was only about $100. I am curious about how you view the comparison between these two product lines. Any comments? Thanks
@diehard39263 жыл бұрын
How come none of the gun manufacturers are going with stainless steel instead of this black stuff that always seems to wear off with holster wear I like the gray I wonder how it is with holster wear I'm tired of getting handguns and then the finish wears off because I dare put them in a holster and wear them in a conceal and carry situation
@faustoramos88403 жыл бұрын
Your opinion : Beretta PX4 Storm full size or Bersa TP R 9 T. Barrel 5 inches ... ??? Love the Tpr 9 c !!
@GBGuns3 жыл бұрын
I've not shot the PX4 Storm full size, but doubt it would beat the TPR 9 in any way except maybe being slimmer and lighter.
@faustoramos88403 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot ... Tpr 9 5 inches T barrel is in a super price right now and love my Tpr 9 c trigger, accuracy and the smooth shooting. Nice deal for the price. Very impressed with your work , info and honesty!
@davidjanuszewski50205 жыл бұрын
Is the non-silver slide painted as this oneis, or, is it nitrated finish?
@bobwampler33875 жыл бұрын
Great looking gun.
@aynzh68464 жыл бұрын
Did not catch the caliber. 380 or 9mm?
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
The TPR9 is only available in 9mm.
@petespurgeon72175 жыл бұрын
Great reveiw, nice product, thinking about the compact it looks like it has the market in single / double for quality /cost. Thanx P.S.
@richdubbya Жыл бұрын
Man, Im really interested in these Bersas. Very Sig/Beretta/Some 70s Spanish brand . Just weird. I dig it..
@GBGuns Жыл бұрын
They're great guns and a heck of a value
@matiasbenitez14224 жыл бұрын
Exelente. Saludos desde argentina.
@DarthCody7002 жыл бұрын
Any idea if it has a chrome bore or just steel?
@mikee72415 жыл бұрын
Do the old thunder 9 mags work with the tpr9
@lucassi935 жыл бұрын
Mike E yes
@yamazakiJumpei4 жыл бұрын
yes
@rickypridgen25952 жыл бұрын
Yes 17rds magzine
@leadmanski5 жыл бұрын
does it use standard magazines Beretta 92 or Sig Sauer 226 or are the mags proprietary ?
@omarcarnegie76144 жыл бұрын
I have the same gun i love it
@Chris-yy5pj5 жыл бұрын
Could you review the taurus tx22 16 round 22lr
@elsullo25 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very detailed and useful review! Looking forward to the range review...………………………….elsullo
@MURDOK726052 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this for a shorter person with medium sized hands? And I know you tested the tpr9c as well. Did you notice more control with the compact?
@GBGuns2 жыл бұрын
Larger pistols are always easier to shoot. Both the TPR9 and TPR9C are broad in the hand, the only difference you'd notice is how much extra grip is left over. My only concern would be trigger reach in double action which is the same on both models.
@MURDOK726052 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns Thank you for replying sir. I've been eying this model for a while.
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
Now being 2021 going on 2022, is the TPR9C still being made by Bursa? I like everything about it. Also, can it be had in .45 acp?
@GBGuns3 жыл бұрын
It is still a Bersa product. I don't know if a 45 version is made or imported
@kimmorrison91693 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns thank you for quick reply
@diehard39263 жыл бұрын
What's the suggested manufacturer retail price
@GrooveMan215 жыл бұрын
Begin With Bersa. Tacti-Kitty Approved :)
@davidsawicki6765 жыл бұрын
Trying to find a range in the Detroit area that has one to rent so i can shoot before i purchase. Seems like it'd be easier finding a pink unicorn. Is there anyone out there to help. Willing to travel to shoot this firearm.
@17thwhiteprince4 жыл бұрын
Have you been to the IFA Tactical Gun Shop (in sterling heights).. They carry lots and lots of brands.. I haven't been there myself but definitely check out their website
@markshane26862 жыл бұрын
What other magazines will work in this gun, other than the Bersa mags? I cant seem to find any Bersa mags anywhere
@rickypridgen25952 жыл бұрын
Promag bersa thunder 9mm 17rds works in my tpr9
@markshane26862 жыл бұрын
@@rickypridgen2595 Thanks for the info, but I have only had luck with the Promags for Glocks.
@faustoramos88403 жыл бұрын
Please share where to get extra 17 capacity magazines for Bersa TPR 9
@rickypridgen25952 жыл бұрын
The promag magzine bersa thunder 9mm 17rds. Works fine in my pistol.
@markanthonypar-wise14995 жыл бұрын
I want to get this as a night stand pistol just don't want it to be to big for my small hands I'm 5'5 and have skinny fingers too
@reynantegordon28744 жыл бұрын
Good day sir I have my question about the bersa tpr 9 the barrel is a match grade barell?
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
No, but there is no official definition of a match grade or not. That's just a marketing ploy
@reynantegordon28744 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns thank you sir answering my inquiry and I asking your suggestion what the best concealed carry pistols in term in hammer fired and strike fired pistol. thank you in advanced to your suggestion. God bless you.
@calholli3 жыл бұрын
Do these use P226 mags?
@MK-ru9xp5 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@dennismcclintock31544 жыл бұрын
Did I hear you correct the TPR9C in no longer made???
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
No their predecessor. I forget the nomenclature at the moment.
@dennismcclintock31544 жыл бұрын
I own the TPR 9C and have been amazed at this under the radar pistol .Bersa makes a outstanding and accurate pistol . Love your channel Graham and am a loyal watcher . My pistol is 15+1 even in a compact recoil is minimal due to solid frame like you stated keep up the great work can you do one on the Bersa TPR9 CL and the 9x thank you for all your knowledge on all your testing your the reason I put chased my Bersa
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. I don't think those models are out in the US
@phxguy76004 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same gun but the single action trigger feels kind of weird it kept throwing me off a bit and i have a few double single action fire arms.. Did you also have this issue? Did you have to adjust to your trigger?
@GBGuns4 жыл бұрын
No, no issue son mine, and no adjustments made. I bought this about the time I made the video, is your much older or newer?
@phxguy76004 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns im not sure when it was manufactured but i bought it new hopefully i see another one at a gunshop to feel the trigger to see if its my gun or just me
@smartacus884 жыл бұрын
This is the best damn deal running for a classic DA/SA 9mm service pistol. The cost compared to the quality is insanely good. The Argentines must have a source of slave labor.
@agustinberthet30734 жыл бұрын
Haha! Argie here, i gotta answer: Price disparity is due to exchange rates between USD and ARS, also, Bersa functions almost exclusively on export sales, Argie gun laws are getting more restrictive because of disarment lobbies and leftist politics. this means less citizens getting their own guns.
@smartacus884 жыл бұрын
@@agustinberthet3073 Damn, I hate to hear that. I hope you guys can preserve your rights. Argentina is my favorite South American nation. Would hate to see them turn into a facsimile of an EU country. Edit: If I had to live in another country other than the U.S I'd like to live in Patagonia, Argentina.
@asdrubalanibal68533 жыл бұрын
Slave labor doesn’t, cannot, produce high quality firearms.
@georgeheidkesr17595 жыл бұрын
Holsters are not a problem..............the Bersa is the same size as a Glock, for most of you guy's, you already have a holster that will work.
@nicopolis73774 жыл бұрын
No lock on it because it is a military \ police firearm .
@BarryNewmanboenairgeez565 жыл бұрын
My wife was afraid to shoot the TPR helped her get over it.
@robertomasnuk82134 жыл бұрын
Bersa very beutiful
@joshuamoore24_74 жыл бұрын
This gun better than glock!
@cliffdenny56805 жыл бұрын
Want
@diehard39263 жыл бұрын
I had two guns that had a little wiggle in them like that and I got a heavier recoil spring and took care of the problem except for the Taurus g2c which I traded away because that jiggle wiggle never came out of the slide even after I got a heavier recoil spring
@jmmartin77665 жыл бұрын
''Tactikitty Approval" - all the endorsement I need... *=^..^=~* *Edited to say: the Sights are Sig compatible, per Bersa, and so there are a plethora of aftermarket choices available, fwiw 🖒😎
@jeramyw5 жыл бұрын
First
@espcustom4 жыл бұрын
Cool gun, minor gripe but still a bummer. The case that it comes with is ridiculously small for the pistol. You cannot lock the gun in any way inside the case if you live in a place where laws exist for it. You can barely fit an extra mag inside either. They provide bigger cases for their xt versions which are barely bigger than the tpr9 so they are available, it puzzles me why they ship the tpr9 full size in those.
@bub-gy2bq5 ай бұрын
Agreed, case is tiny!
@ermay30315 жыл бұрын
It's not flared and doesn't come with threaded barrel so I'll stick with my salient highpoint
@hansvonmannschaft90625 жыл бұрын
Hey there sir, there's a version of this very same gun that does come with a threaded (and thus longer) barrel. www.bersa.com.ar/pistola-bersa-tpr9x-en.html Cheers
@jordanns0105 жыл бұрын
Where's the bbr 3.10 whats for dinner??
@GBGuns5 жыл бұрын
It's coming, I had to travel for the Carry Expo.
@jordanns0105 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns can u shout me out in the whats for din din vid, im your biggest fan😍
@greggyboy6255 жыл бұрын
Same here gb, waiting for the bbr😅 bought my wife a baby rock 380 and love it.
@hansvonmannschaft90625 жыл бұрын
And don't forget fellows, if you got the previous version you can still use those mags, and if you want even better mags, Mec-Gar has them :-) There's also a threaded, 5" barrel version, in case it happens to be your thing :-) www.bersa.com.ar/pistola-bersa-tpr9x-en.html Cheers, thanks for the video, may everyone have a great day!
@1978garfield2 жыл бұрын
Sadly Mec-Gar only list mags for the .380 Thunder and those are out of stock :( I would really like to find 4 Mec-Gar 9 mm mags for a TPR/ Thunder Pro.
@hansvonmannschaft90622 жыл бұрын
@@1978garfield Sorry to hear that brother, I haven't checked the Mec-Gar listings in a while, wouldn't surprise me if they changed something, I remember making sure the day I wrote the comment. Bersa factory mags, also, aren't bad, perhaps they don't come with the best follower in the world, but nothing that can't be fixed (I know, I had to, was boring, but satisfying). Thing is, I don't know what the hell is up with Bersa imports/exports. They're doing pretty well, must be the Argentinian government putting stones in their path, as I'm aware they tend to have to deal with it quite often. Cheers and best of luck! Oh! one last thing, have you tried contacting Bersa, or whoever imports their products? They've been quite cool each time I had to, and it's always been with the purpose of buying something. Have a good one!
@RayBlackburn5 жыл бұрын
I saw some 380 and 9mm Bersa's back in the 1980's at a convenience store and thought may not be good if they are selling at a convenience store next to some 25 Raven's LOL Those look better than the ones I saw back then
@Clambelly5 жыл бұрын
"pulled it out of my pants, to strip it ..." !!! LOL
@pcnotpc594 жыл бұрын
No magazine disconnect, either!
@sweetcostarica4 жыл бұрын
Lots of levers on that there pistol. Most Bersa's are reliable in the short term but I don't know about the medium to long term. My worry and dislike was the gun, gun parts felt & probably were cheap i.e. not made of the best material. An OK gun but I sold my Bersa Thunder .380 ACP and never looked back.
@steveg35935 жыл бұрын
Let's see that "accur-shit"! Another great video!
@GBGuns5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was tired. I spent 8 months in therapy after my TBI to get my speech back to normal, sometimes it slips.
@steveg35935 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns I would've never known! I have slips like that all of the time, but can only blame my lack of couth. Keep up the great work!
@GBGuns5 жыл бұрын
@@steveg3593 Thank you, yeah, I got blasted in Afghanistan, rattled the brain a little. Years later I still don't have the memory or speech that I did prior, but that's life. Another decade or two and I'll be able to blame age, lol.
@steveg35935 жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns WOW! Thanks for taking one for our countrymen! And even more impressive to be employed as a writer and vlogger, both of which require focus and attention span. Plus your pistol groups are still better than mine!
@bryanwyatt98295 жыл бұрын
So what do you call people from Guam? They must be Guamulen
@hallard0695 жыл бұрын
Dang, looks like a modernized version of the old Ruger P-Series
@jmmartin77664 жыл бұрын
Maybe thats one of the things I like about them. Well, that and it has a de-cocker/safety like my P-95
@peterhull11825 жыл бұрын
It looks like the next closest thing to l h9
@solomonmarcus54963 жыл бұрын
Chainsaw etc. 🤣🤣
@zdub84385 жыл бұрын
Great gun but ugly as hell IMHO. Makes a Glock look pretty. The two tone helps but not enough for me. I've got my eyes on the thunder plus. Little bargain bin Beretta Cheetah.