997登場!! ポルシェ911 vs.ライバル SUGO高速BATTLE!!【Best MOTORing】2005

[@mira4876]

荒選手はどんな車でどんな順位に陥ってもその車の長所ばかり褒めるいい選手だと思う

[@ささやん-p3v]

1990年代に設計された車がこのタイムはすごいよ。この頃のホンダ車本当に面白かったわ。

[@anatoliybarzul7692]

I don’t understand their language but at 4:44 with the beat playing in the back it sounds like they’re free styling to me

[@olivman4795]

Anatoliy Barzul you made me laugh so much !!!!! Thank you 😂😂😂

[@JMDrives]

Old school freestyle haha

[@dannycolverson6944]

Lol amazing

[@JMDrives]

12:30 You can clearly see, from a POV, how good the Porsches brakes are. Very instant! 13:23 The 2 Porsches also have exact yaw-angle while turning.

[@taisa877]

NSXは何故かブレーキがプアだよね 初期モデルから NSX欲しいけど安いのは90～91年式が多いからなー 95年式以降になると一気に値段が上がる タイプSに乗ってみたいけど高すぎる

[@ぜっぺり]

セッティングを味付けって表現するの大好きw

[@ethownzbh]

Clearly the NSX-R had some issue in the braking test because it was phenomenal, as expected, under braking on the track. And at 19:10 I was like wtf does this guy not know how to use mirrors? But then I immediately remembered that was Gan-san who simply gives zero fucks and is easily the most terrifying person to drive against in, at least, Best Motoring history.

[@oscardriver]

As a proud owner of an Na2 and 997S I can tell you, the 997S drives truly incredible .... specially with proper aero/tires/mods /// But the NSX wins on the looks that is for sure!

[@1978蒼龍]

黒沢親子は仲がいいなぁ。

[@Bebopin-69]

Nice memories...thanks

[@mr-shuto7718]

NSXバグみたいに速えぇw現行のNSXのtypeRだすならこれぐらいやって欲しい

[@bmfox1423]

カレラと996ターボは完全街乗り仕様、タイヤもツーリングタイヤだな..

[@ジータ-f3q]

360ってこんなに安かったんだ　今のフェラーリ高すぎ〜

[@matthewmurphy8362]

How is the NSX outbraking the other cars here when it performed the worst in the brake test.

[@oswaldomorales8924]

Aliens

[@tonychavez2083]

NSX is a beast on the track and I’m not a Honda guy..

[@Julian-oy7hx]

brake test comes to a complete stop which is much more stress on the tires, also consider brake fade and high speed corner entry stability.

[@ryuji355136]

19:12～ 琢弥「あーぶね！あぶね！あぶね！…あぶね！あぶね！…真剣バトルだぜ。親子で」 ↑ インに寄せて来るのを予め想定している琢ちゃん。 若い頃だけはガンさんに少し反発してたけど、レーサーとして有名になってからはずっと、親子でも一定の敬意を払っているのが感じられる。 ガンさんの特集ビデオの時インタビューを受けていたが、ニュルでガンさんが駆るポルシェの助手席に乗った感想を「素晴らしいの一言ですよね…」と言ってたぐらいだから、たとえ“父親”という近しい間柄でも、日本の一時代を築いた偉大なレーサーということで、正に「親しき中にも礼儀あり」を実践していたのだろう。 13:46～ 服部「おわっ💦ガンさん止まってよ！止まってよ！止まってよ…ビックリした💦もぉよけたよ俺は～」 ↑ 04年あたりまではガンさんに失礼で酷い事をよく言ってたハッチャンも、この号では、06年あたりから出なくなるガンさんをいたわる様なコメントしてる。 そもそも息子の琢ちゃんや、一番弟子の大井副編、ドリドリ、コボちゃん、初期メンバーの清水選手や、プライドの高い中谷選手らは、ガンさんの動きをある程度読んで走っていたし、その動きを予測できた者は特別激高もしなかったが、ハッチャンだけはいつまでもガンさんの動きを読めず、寄せられる度にガチギレしていた。

[@psbita0310]

ドリキン「危ないってジイ様w」 大井「親父〜親父〜！」 服部「アホか本間このクソジジイは」

[@ハイパーニート-k3o]

NSX 凄えな。次期NSX もこのくらい走れるようになって欲しいな^ - ^買えないけど...笑

[@CAMGMv]

ポルシェのブレーキ凄いな

[@hongkongsanfromosaka]

この走り見てたら、今のNSXにNSXの名前を与えていいの？ってなるわな… 車としての性格が違いすぎる。

[@擬似銀]

16:07 神谷さん、ギター侍ですか？

[@Takaraveloce]

もうNSX-Rは数千万するからなぁ... 初めてNSX乗らせていただいたときに一瞬で魅了された車╰(*´︶`*)╯♡ 日本が世界に誇る名車です！！

[@adelaidanagostos9973]

新車１５００万が、今や億越えてますもんね。 ホンダの誇る素晴らしい車です。

[@felipefernandes9053]

Ferrari does well with F1 transmission but even though it had better brake test results than NSX-R, in race brake too early against NSX-R... So biased

[@たしゅ-v6o]

NSX-Rは他の車より設計が古く馬力も大きく劣ってるのにここまで戦えるマシンなのが凄い。

[@djorksolo8544]

NSX R NA2 just showed how amazing this car was when she came out, and even many years later, simply beating all the new models from Europe in performances! The NSX would won first place if this Gan-San who is very famous dangerous driver in Best Motoring wasn't dangerously blocking and almost crash his own son just to be the winner ! RIP to Ayrton Senna who helped Honda to set up the chassis of this NSX R just before he passed away, sadly he never got the chance to drive the production version!

[@baythegrouw34]

nice... nsx Type R

[@auz17]

Major props to that NSX-R for upstaging the 360 and 911T.

[@davidcraig7771]

Its fake

[@JMDrives]

19:35 Porsche: 😊🎶 NSX: 🤬🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡

[@黒沢ちゃそ]

nsxのコーナーはめちゃくちゃ速いけどストレートもスペックや排気量の割にかなり速い。ホンダ車全般スペックや排気量以上の動力性能を持ってると思う。

[@阪田憲明]

NSXRって280馬力規制なかったらどんな車になってたんだろっていうくらい速い

[@johntrumpdonald4091]

多分、280馬力だからこそのこのパッケージングなんだと思います。 馬力を上げると、ブレーキキャリパーを対向ピストンキャリパーに変更したり、放熱性上げたりで、この運動性能を保つのは至難の業かと。

[@PJ-rv1zm]

規制が無かったらこんな名車は誕生して無かったと思うよ。新型NSX見りゃわかる。

[@ddtailhappy3662]

実馬力は300オーバーだったみたいなので、このままのブロックで3.5L400馬力位は可能だった筈。従って重量はほぼそのまま。その仕様にしたらストレートは加速も最高速もモデナより速い。自主なんだから生贄にならず無視すれば良かったのに。

[@ボスマロ-r9v]

ボディサイズは多少変わったり、車重もそうだけど。あのデザインの延長線上で進化したNSXは見たかったな。 やはりV6 3.5 400馬力くらいは見てみたかった。そうすればGT-Rみたいに、よりブランド化されただろうにな。

[@JMDrives]

4:02 Ferrari ABS: 😏 NSX ABS: 👁️👄👁️

[@HUMC5]

996 Turbo and 360 Modena drivers just cruising and let the NSX-R pass... On the straight: Carrera S: 211.8km/h 996 Turbo: 200.4km/h 360 Modena: 194.2km/h Lol...

[@Zygrene]

the 360 Modena had pretty serious brake problems, so he was braking super early

[@FEGTTTSDH]

@@Zygrene You see that, clearly they are cheating, the nsxr is very fast, but not like a Modena or 911 Turbo... Doesn´t look very stock too

[@gumpy4960]

The nsxr is a lot lighter and is far better at braking, that’s how it did so well. You can see throughout the race that the 360 and turbo where faster in a straight line, nothing dodgy going on at all.

[@JMDrives]

You can clearly see that the NSX driver was very all into it, probably sweating ocean in his suit. The 360 has slow downshift and short on gears (On other videos as well). GT2 is only tuned for top speed, that's why it only kicks on the straight even the 360 overtook it. The 911 S is tuned for handling like the NSX but has almost twice the horsepower, the NSX is super light though, that's why it kept up. But, put a 911 GT3 in there and the NSX have no chance tailing behind. It's not fake, if you know how to drive, you can tell on every drivers' movements. Japanese loves European cars specially Porches, VW and Alfa Romeos. They want every possible result to further improve their Japanese cars. It's why they always have a chat and suggestions to manufacturers for improvements after each race.

[@Headsuporheadstone]

I am also having a hard time understanding how the 360 and 911 Turbo had such poor speed on the backstraight despite being the 2 fastest cars there and significantly better braking than the NSX in the braking test.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

How do you explain the Carrera S pulling away from the Turbo on the last lap or so?

[@aintnopity]

Turbo lag

[@JMDrives]

A car tuned for top speed, won't win in a circuit against a track-tuned car. It's why even the 360 and the NSX overtook it. There's also a reason why Porsche created the GT3. It's the apex predator of their 911 lineups despite having no turbo, because of being a lightweight, track-focused all-rounder car.

[@猫背猫舌-m8y]

NSX-Rコーナーだけ異常に速いですね。

[@ddtailhappy3662]

コーナーが異様に速いからバックストレートエンドの最高速が2番手と理解。だからコーナーだけではない。

[@yukichantakeya2629]

カレラってコンフォート重視なの？あれで？

[@wasuprobleemjoh]

i thought the nsx-r was superb in braking? :/

[@ethownzbh]

It is one of, if not, the best in the field under brakes I mean just look at 14:50 and also how it closed on the Carrera S and Turbo under braking even before turn in. Something went wrong in the braking test.

[@djorksolo8544]

wasuprobleemjoh The NSX R is truly amazing under breaking conditions on track, but not in pure breaking to 0 km/h. This is a weakness they found out in this episode of Best Motoring, Honda was too much focused on making it a track machine, so the ABS electronic breaking system isn't well set up for emergency breaking! But got an amazing breaking performances while running on tracks !

[@djorksolo8544]

Ethanmeister No nothing went wrong ! As they said, they did the test twice, and same results. Read above ! There's another video of this episode of Best Motoring on youtube with subtitles !

[@JMDrives]

Commuter cars, like Mazda have good emergency braking while the car PITCHES straight forward -- only. But when it comes to braking with tons of body ROLL and YAW turns, it's another topic of engineering since it already goes hand-in-hand with suspension and chassis setups.

[@サルトルマンド]

ゴーンさん、期待してますよ ← 逮捕後釈放中ww

[@りっしー-t8j]

997は後期が好き

[@TakaoMaxPro]

軽自動車の６４ｐｓ規制もよろしくお願いいたします。

[@謝謝謝の謝]

サーキットではタイヤの性能が圧倒的に違うと思います。

[@VaunShiz]

When you can't launch or race a stock 350z lmao

[@fvcgt]

Nsx is on racing tyres

[@yushanchen4193]

No way the nsx failed that badly in the braking test. Braking is its ultimate weapon, and it used that to follow the porsches. Something wrong?

[@FEGTTTSDH]

racing tyres probably...

[@ddtailhappy3662]

ガンさんの三味線。どうしてアタックラップの方が遅いの？=良いグリッド

[@JwowSaechao]

Europe in 2005: *We're gonna make the most exotic cars with the most horsepower there is and make our brand be known as producing the best handling cars* Honda in 2002: *Egh,🤷‍♂️ let's make the NSX kind of exotic and give it kinda of a lot of horsepower BUT we're gonna ABSOLUTELY murder the competition in handling all up into the future* 911 turbo - 420 ps 360 modena - 400 ps 911 carrera s - 360 ps 911 Carrera - 330 ps (NSX-R - 280 ps)

[@felipefernandes9053]

It's more about weight, tires, suspension, aerodynamics, chassis than power! Lotus has known this since the 50s!

[@JMDrives]

You gotta remember that Porsche created the GT3 as well. It has no turbo, less horsepower but murders the GT2 Turbo in every conditions. Because, lightweight and track-focused race car. -- Like the NSX. Power isn't always the answer.

[@razinizam]

it has more than 280 hp..ns-x produce around 310hp on stock..

[@MN-bq4se]

996ターボと992カレラsだと同価格帯なんだな

[@カルロ-u9c]

ガンさん相変わらず後ろ見ねぇなw

[@lfagar7565]

ガンさんいなよたくやだよ

[@mmt_ktm390]

@@lfagar7565 ガンさんは先頭のカレラSですよ。

[@oshiboriten4207]

水平対向エンジンは古くなったらオイル漏れしやすいですか？

[@きたあか-f6l]

音とスタイルでNSXの圧勝

[@awd-ju3dl]

ま、人によるけど😂 私はこのコメントを鵜呑みにするのをやめた

[@菅原雅栄]

やっぱり日産の車は電子制御なかったら話にならんね

[@220rb]

この動画の997素カレラってPASM付いてる？

[@lasertools1]

Gon sun is the best ever!

[@Yoshitarou1120]

NSX-Rが世界のスーパースポーツとこんなにも張り合えるのは日本車の誇りですね！

[@udon358kitsune]

日本車のブレーキが本当に乏しいと言えるのは重量級の車にこんなしょぼいのつけてるの❓っていうのが多い。例を挙げると今はなきアリストがその代表的だと言える。パワーと重量に対してこのブレーキはないでしょうって本当に思いました。

[@nor-3576]

親子ドライビングスクール

[@じすた-d1b]

ゴーンさんはシビアですよ。

[@レゴシ-d8v]

56:45

[@TomEnduro]

That is total bull... Porsche Turbo destroys NSXR on qtr mile acceleration test, but the NSX gains on it from the start line on the straight? All the Porsches destroy the NSX on braking by a long way, but the drivers in the Porsches brake early on track and let the NSX out brake them? Total bull.

[@oswaldomorales8924]

Yes, sadly the bias ruins this cool show

[@だまふむ]

the braking test stops the car to zero which is completely different to race conditions. And everyone either gets a good start or a bad one. stop talking out of your ass.

[@kenbyjimny9772]

400馬力オーバーについていくNSXよ

[@どうぶつの森の詐欺たぬき]

nsx実際は300馬力は出てるらしいね

[@jonathanmoga5188]

996tt ftw

[@benamarayoucef9402]

modena 360 !!!

[@djorksolo8544]

benamara youcef 360 modena got ate by everything Hahahaha this ferrari sux !

[@ap4931]

@@djorksolo8544 did you even saw the Race?? The 360 was faster (on race and time atack) than all the 911s including the turbo while using same tires... And the 360 had the sequential gearbox, the manual car would bem even faster!!!

[@user-md9gs5es7p]

馬力の割にNSXが早すぎる

[@squirrel36274]

dammmm come on, NSX wouldve won if that dam Porsche didnt hog the road. b.s.

[@ぴーとー-i5e]

日本一は世界一

[@CarandScooter77]

What a Fake!!!Porsche Turbo is slower then Handa ????NO NO NO NO!!!!!!

[@grandpere0129]

Did you see laptime? They lapped max speed.

[@mig6168]

Man, the NSX R is a track beast. As fast as a 996 GT3 on the ring...

[@antecalic8881]

This is just a period from 2005 - 2007 or '08 when Japan didn't came out with the R35 GTR. So they had to push a NA2 NSX-R a few years more :) Even though it was basically over 15 yo design at that time.

[@danieleTFSI]

Nsx brake in 90 m but in race 40.... japanese fake

[@だまふむ]

braking test is to zero idiot.

[@GAMES-ue7kb]

ポルシェはやっぱいいね。 ８６もRRで作ればいいのにな。 NSXもZも乗るとつまらんよ。LFAを見習いなさい。

[@アーウィン-h3h]

自社エンジンじゃなくてヤマハエンジン使ってるlfaを参考にしろと？w

[@ryota1638]

お前が下手だからだろ

[@前田慶次-l8m]

ぼくちゃんは、先ず免許証を取得しましょうね〜。 話の内容から、絶対免許証持って無いし、乗った事無いのが丸わかりですよw