For me its 124gr HST in my 3.1 inch barrel summertime carry gun, and 147gr HST in my 5.1 inch barrel fall/winter/spring carry gun. Test after test that I've seen those rounds prove to be among the best choices. Thank you for the tests, this information is invaluable to those of us that can't do these tests ourselves.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting! Godspeed and good hunting. May you never have to use those guns in defense!
@guardianminifarm8005Ай бұрын
Thank you. HST & Gold Dot are typically good reliable options.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
You didn't watch the speer gold dot fail in the end did you?
@guardianminifarm8005Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I should have stated this better. That is what surprised me. The fact that they are known to be reliable but this failure to expand happened is disappointing.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@guardianminifarm8005 well said.
@YellowHammer26Ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck, appreciate the test. I personally carry the 124gr Hsts in my carry gun. I always enjoy your testing in whatever you decide to test.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thanks Lance! Good choice
@lonewolfoftexas9 сағат бұрын
My test with 124gr Sig V-crown was excellent. Made me a believer even though I set out to prove it was just a Gucci Ammo. I now use it in all my self defense pistols.
@AlaskanBallistics8 сағат бұрын
That's great. They perform well in meat test for me, not so well in this Ballistics gel. Godspeed and good hunting
@timrobinson6573Ай бұрын
How much of the lack of expansion on so many rounds tested has to do with using clear synthetic gel in uncontrolled conditions? What is the standard calibration for clear synthetic gel? How do you ensure that the calibration is correct and maintained throughout the testing? All rhetorical questions. Federal Ammunition and the FBI call clear synthetic gel a toy because there is no standard by which to calibrate it.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Fair enough. Thanks!
@brucecook5027 күн бұрын
After watching a bajillion ballistic test with so many different defensive ammunitions, weights, and different pressures, about 5 months ago when I got my Springfield Hellcat with a 3-inch Barrel, I had settled on the federal HST 124 grain +P. It was hands down the most consistent and sufficient performer for short-barreled 9mm's of all the tests I have seen and this one just reconfirms what I have already seen. Federal HST FTW! And thanks for the video by the way 🙂
@AlaskanBallistics7 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching and I pray you never have to find out the real results in a self defense scenario. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.
@brucecook5027 күн бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics well let's hope I never find myself in that sort of situation because I'm the kind of idiot that would get myself killed because of my unwillingness to hurt another human being. It was only thanks to the constant mass shootings on the news that I even began carrying a few years ago and that's probably the only scenario I know for a fact I would use a firearm to defend myself. Anyways thanks for the kind comment and I wish the same for you 🙂
@BuffRANGEАй бұрын
Bravo, GOOD SHOW!
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thank you sir!
@believe722Ай бұрын
I think the density of your two different gel blocks is the problem. You should also be using a 4-in barrel.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
1) I don't carry less than 4 inch barrel, but many people do. I was trying to show what the Ballistics were for the shorter barrel.
@ChrisGenXerАй бұрын
This is great! Thank you
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
You're welcome. Thank ! Godspeed and good hunting!
@iacorrigan4115Ай бұрын
Would love to see a 10mm bear defense ammo comparison
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
It's in the plans
@hillbillyscholar8126Ай бұрын
Just confirmed my opinion that the 9x19 is temperamental depending on ammunition choice. The Critical Defense was a surprise though, I expected it to be among the best.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
I expected it to penetrate shallow and expand almost too much
@timrobinson6573Ай бұрын
I would imagine it has more to do with using synthetic gelatin in uncontrolled conditions. Federal Ammunition and the FBI call clear synthetic gel a toy.
@hillbillyscholar8126Ай бұрын
@@timrobinson6573 It may not be organic gel but it is the best thing most commoners have access to for experimentation. The data may not be great data, but it is decent if the test protocol remains consistent.
@brendaddy4 күн бұрын
Would love to see the Barnes in the +P load. Other rounds used were +P on some. Wonder what difference in penetration. Maybe would make the Barnes a better contender?
@AlaskanBallistics2 күн бұрын
Maybe, sometimes the faster a bullet goes, the faster the hollowpoint opens up, the faster the bullet slows down, the less it penetrates. Other times the extra speed just pushes it farther
@2006MercuryАй бұрын
Thank you for the testing
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
You're welcome. Thank you for watching!
@wyomingdrifter115Ай бұрын
The Underwood 90 grain defender 9mm would be interesting to compare…
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
It's in the plans!
@2006MercuryАй бұрын
Never tried the HST ill have to try it. Always trained with regular Hornady Critical Defense
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@@2006Mercury that's the first critical defense fail I've ever had! The HSTs are very reliable!
@charlesphillips5906Ай бұрын
Thanks for using a short barrel! One KZbinr I used to watch has started using 5 inch barrel. That data doesn’t help me.
@jamesmarkov9570Ай бұрын
Sam revolver guy?
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
That's a good channel
@charlesphillips5906Ай бұрын
@@jamesmarkov9570 Yes
@charlesphillips5906Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics Yes it is, but since none of my carry guns have long barrels the data just doesn’t interest me.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Well I appreciate you watching and let me know what other ammo I could do to help.
@davidneal6920Ай бұрын
Man Chuke is fast on the keyboard 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Had nothing to do with me giving him the link for feedback
@2006MercuryАй бұрын
Fast on the draw also
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Lol
@lucasschmitz4588Ай бұрын
Wheres buffalo bore and underwood,g9 and quite a few of the newer rounds that have come out cause we all know how basically every box on the table preforms
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@@lucasschmitz4588 plans for episode 2
@lucasschmitz4588Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics hell ya brother can't wait to see it
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@lucasschmitz4588 it'll be a few months... hunting season is upon me
@lucasschmitz4588Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics no worries as long as happens
@davidr73332 күн бұрын
Great video!
@AlaskanBallistics2 күн бұрын
Thank you David
@cw2aАй бұрын
10mm is the best MM!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼👍🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Amen! Preach it brother!
@ronald209Ай бұрын
And, .357 Sig is the best "upgraded" 9mm
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@ronald209 true. I need to do .357 sig vs. 10mm. I'll try to do it this winter
@Schutti73Ай бұрын
@@ronald209 better 9mm Dillon.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@Schutti73 lol maybe if you could find ammo and guns for it.
@danoneill2846Ай бұрын
yep
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thanks Dan
@DropItLikeItsScottАй бұрын
Extremely interesting Good video to show which 9 mm defensive ammo is better for sure.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thanks Brother
@TaddersАй бұрын
The friggin critical duty tumbled
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Yep... it did that
@MrYour1Fan18 күн бұрын
Great job
@AlaskanBallistics18 күн бұрын
Thank You Sir
@texpatriot8462Ай бұрын
Predict HST 4 the win.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
And so what did you think?
@jdizzforyou27 күн бұрын
Since you're making your own gel blocks and all... you could be the first I've seen add fiberous muscle tissue into the gel. Just strands of some fabric going one direction and not woven really to loosely simulate some muscle fibers and whatnot. That might really kick off the expansion. Later on in another video add bones from a butcher? Cure the gelatin with a rack of pork ribs right under the surface? 😂 Maybe the Amazon mix block had more or stronger concentrated gelatin hence the added resistance from density that caused more expansion? How about testing the cheapest you can get vs the most expensive? Nicely done though, thanks!
@AlaskanBallistics26 күн бұрын
I appreciate the suggestions! Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
@CheeseBurgerXJАй бұрын
I’d like to see you test federals hi shok line, I use their 9mm 147 gr 9ms since I can find it for about 35-40cpr.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
We'll see
@ChukesOutdoorAdventuresАй бұрын
First
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
You're such a speedy queen
@brentmiller3951Ай бұрын
He said he colored his graph for chuke pride month .it was the least you could do
@user-vt5qi1yx8mАй бұрын
Very interesting. However, you didn’t include what many believe are the 2 best types of ammo: Buffalo Bore and Underwood.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Only so much room in the box... I plan on those in episode 2 or 3
@DanTheWolfmanАй бұрын
Thanks, but let's see the Homemade Organic Gel release that footage...doesn't matter how it looks for entertainment, what matters is that Data, 17% More Dense, contains Water..ya know like we do so they Expand way more. Modern Meat Target look at my tests. Also Critical Duty Battle coming soon. In Alaska I'd be carrying either .40 or 10mm, either Dutch staggering hard 180 hollows like Gold Dot & FMJ, or changing mags out for out of city and going into city. HST or punch for me in the south. Also tested lots of .357 Mag through 6 layers...4 Layer Denim & 2 Tshirt for you Northern Boys to look at HST in .357 should do good on either 2 or 4 legged
@morgizmo87Ай бұрын
Would love to see some super vel defensive loads
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
If I ever see those on the shelf
@TyinAlaskaАй бұрын
Very good Roundup. I would love to see your take on Ballistic Machinist Interceptors.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Are they available to reload... ? As projectiles?
@TyinAlaskaАй бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I don't know where my previous response to this question went. Maybe KZbin deleted it since it had a link. Detroit Ammo sells "PROJECTILES 90GR 9MM INTERCEPTORS" from Ballistic Machinist.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@TyinAlaska, I'll look for it, but I think Detroit Ammo refuses to sell even projectiles to Alaska. I've tried them before. Maybe I'm remembering wrong
@TyinAlaskaАй бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics perhaps Ballistic Machinist could send a box as a partial sponsorship if you requested.
@brianbloecher5706Ай бұрын
Wondering if you have tested G9 ammo with the external hollow point, hidden hollow point and/or woodsman?
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
No but it's in the plans
@user-bq1se9tt2nАй бұрын
(~6 min 30 sec) Re, you had your Glock 43X jam.... Mine, unfortunately, seems to do that on at least one round in the magazine. I started putting 9 rounds in the magazine & that seemed to correct the problem. But the last time I shot, I had a jam. Am not sure what's going on with that. (Limp wrist?? Probably.)
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Without watching it, yes. Or you're shooting very hot rounds for the magazine spring to keep up with the faster moving slide. Also take the magazine apart and clean it really well. Mine was also with a PSA MicroDagger mag, which never named in the summer testing, but I dropped it off camera and snow was in it.
@user-bq1se9tt2nАй бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics , AB, thanks much for letting me know about cleaning the mag. Am still learning so didn't consider need to clean it as well as my gun. (My light bulb seems to come on a lot slower the older I get :-)
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@user-bq1se9tt2n me too brother. Not sure my light bulb is even screwed in these days.
@user-bq1se9tt2nАй бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics , A, the "good thing" that "light bulb" is we have company ;-) Hope you have a great day!
@akbluefox8506Ай бұрын
My wife and I both have the first runs of 43x with the silver slide, and I've found that through a couple of thousand rounds apiece, with 16 different mags (12 OEM and 4 shield gen 2) that neither gun likes the bullets that are shaped lig the Sig ammo and will jam at least once a mag, usually the 3rd from the end, but they both have no trouble with "pointier" ammo like the Hornady stuff. No limp wristing and the jams are regardless of who's shooting. None of our Glocks are ammo picky, but the 43x sure seems to be, at least in my experience.
@johnfeliciano585Ай бұрын
I prefer G9 defense 80gr External hollow point round
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Plan on testing it when I can find some?
@Wes.Crump00Ай бұрын
I carry Hornady American gunner 115gr xtp in my carry gun but I'm looking for something with a little more weight at least projectile-wise
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Federal HST 124gr +p seams to be the winner.
@Wes.Crump00Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I'll have to order it most likely federal hst doesn't stay on the shelf long at the local store
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@Wes.Crump00 I've got links on my A.D. page most of the time
@Wes.Crump00Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics cool man I'll check it out
@earthlyng_official4599Ай бұрын
The barnes looks like the best numbers imo
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Umm low energy and penetration? No
@crsquirrely7313 күн бұрын
I forgot what barrel length you had, but a lot of those rounds are designed for 4-in barrels or longer
@AlaskanBallistics12 күн бұрын
Which is not what people necessarily carry either.
@jamespughАй бұрын
Good testing.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thank You James!
@ratedredneck96Ай бұрын
Well you said id be suprised and well color me suprised. However, this is the first video i have seen where the bullet did not expand like intended. The fbi standard test does have multiple layers of denim and a layer of leather i think, dont quote me on it though. I would like to see the g9 bullet or the external hollow point design bullet tested. It does not rely on expansion to cause devastation and garand thumb praises the g9 and the gold dot bullets as two of his favorite rounds. I have went to a bullet called inceptor arx. Its a light 65gr bullet traveling at 1650fps claimed on the box. A bullet that doesnt need to rely on expansion could open a huge amount of possibilities. No more good for this but lacks here type bullet, if it tracks well and doesnt deviate when shot through angled objects it sounds like the perfect round.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Yeah I have a few to test
@user-anc123Ай бұрын
Gold dot for total victory
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Watch until the end for the Gold Dot complete and total Failure
@user-anc123Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics the fix was in!! Lol
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Lol wish it wasn't
@user-anc123Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics me too lol. I’ve been carrying in both the 9 and 40 🤷🏻♂️. Appreciate the reviews.
@ronald209Ай бұрын
Hmm, no Winchester Ranger T-Series SXT 🤔🤨
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
I've got some to test in the next batch, I think. We have to buy ammo on the shelf here, so if it's not on the shelf, I can't get it.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
It also typically doesn't expand according to what I've seen
@kennethferguson4283Ай бұрын
The 9mm's velocity is established out of 4 inch barrels.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Which tells you nothing if you carry a shorter barrel. This tells me to not carry shorter than 4", so I guess we're agreeing? Thank you and Godspeed
@JustinDeFiblanderАй бұрын
Dhamn still got snow up there
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Recorded in Late April
@thebushbunkerАй бұрын
I wanna see 90gr xtreme defender monolith self defense ammo.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@thebushbunker plan on it in next video... along the 68gr +p
@thebushbunkerАй бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics awesome I use lighter ammo as I need to compensate for speed for my short reflex barrel.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@thebushbunker then you picked the right one!
@Horror_Film_AficionadoАй бұрын
I personally carry 124+p Speergolddot. Its what NYPD, Georgia state troopers, secret service and among thousands of security and law enforcement agencies carry. Ill never change my carry ammo
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Hope it doesn't fail you!
@T.A.B.VideosАй бұрын
👍
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Thank You!
@the3rdid48512 күн бұрын
Sad that we're at the point where we have to clarify things aren't for the woke mob.... But still appreciate it haha
@AlaskanBallistics12 күн бұрын
Truth. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours my friend.
@dylanholbrook6239Ай бұрын
Synthetic gel water content: 0%.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
@dylanholbrook6239 okay thanks. It was supposed to be equivalent to 10% Ballistics gel...
@dylanholbrook6239Ай бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics equivalent can mean a lot of things. Organic gel is 10% purified pig fat and the rest water. And then it must be temperature controlled, and acclimated. The time and temperature window for it to be valid science is very narrow, and has to be verified by calibration. Synthetic gel (clear) is not an animal product, and has no water. Just like shooting water would lead you to believe everything expands, shooting clear gel can lead you believe other falsehoods. No hate tho brother. God speed
@chumpchange00Ай бұрын
Something wrong with that denim. Artificial or imitation denim
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
Yes but as I said, in Alaska we wear a lot thicker stuff than that. Bullet has still got to perform
@henryknox4511Ай бұрын
Looks like all the substandard mfg paid you off to leave out underwood.
@AlaskanBallisticsАй бұрын
It's in the next video... And I wished ammo companies did pay me! Lol youtube doesn't much