How effective is your 9mm carry ammo? 9MM VS HUMAN TORSO

[@Bunkermonkey777]

I work in emergency medicine and I’ve seen a fair amount of gun shot wounds. Most of them are fmj from small calibers (25 acp, 22lr, 380). Those patients tend to live unless it’s to the heart, a major blood vessel, or brain stem. The patients I’ve seen with 9mm hollow points don’t live if the patient is shot in the trunk (chest or stomach). Most of the time (if not all of the time) quality hollow points pass all the way through. I personally carry Hornady critical duty because I’ve seen what it does..

[@pablog4852]

so you work in emergency medicine and you have seen that the small calibers still stop and put people in the hospital yet you choose to go with a caliber that has a good chance of killing someone, for what? why is the goal always to kill? and you work in medicine where your job is to save lives. The irony.

[@brandonwood722]

Because then they are no longer a threat to you.

[@AnthonyTrudeau]

So there's only one side of the story.

[@JonnyTheViking]

@@pablog4852 because when you create a situation worthy of getting a gun pulled on you, you forfeit the choice of life. Seen plenty of methheads that have taken a bullet and kept coming. I wouldn’t want to get want to get stabbed with the crusty crack pipe given the choice.

[@doogustrog]

@@JonnyTheViking “When you create a situation” What? You create yourself attempting to be mugged?

[@maykheir7636]

“Built like a bowl of milk” is an insult I will be adding to my arsenal.

[@Absorbant]

Insult arsenal reveal anytime soon?

[@Yeoman7]

I like when he said “put him down like a dog w aids.”

[@iandungan6196]

Used to work with a guy who would tell me how his old lady was built like a bowl of pudding, poor guy

[@realburglazofficial2613]

“That looks like an injury you would need to go to hospital for” Charlie with the science facts!

[@robertbennett5427]

Charlie kicks ass... Love it 😂

[@vincentcocchio3450]

As I said before, that lab coat gives him basically full qualifications to do all of this He's practically a surgeon now

[@Bitter_Blueberry]

Shawn White meets Bill Nye

[@SteCap416]

*in New Jersey

[@olligesd9343]

Obviously. The popped collar proves this.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Id trust him. _Look, the bullets stuck in there, but a second bullet should unstick the first._

[@mbansjddbsj]

Hes my endocrinologist

[@cheeseballs3825]

Just came to see the lungs get blown completely out of the body.

[@graylonperson9012]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@OsamaBinBallen1234]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@InChristIDelight]

😂

[@Scorpion-es9ri]

I would really like to see an video breaking down how different barrel lengths on some calibers at different distances influence the effect on target 🤔

[@Robiwan82]

You would have far too many variables to deal with. Barrel length, angle of twist, bullet weight, bullet type...

[@Bitter_Blueberry]

I've been asking several channels about this. This topic also leads into the question... What's the ballistic difference between +P 9mm out of a PCC barrel (8-10") or so vs a 5.56 from a short AF barrel like 5"

[@Bitter_Blueberry]

@@Robiwan82 could do a test with standard ball to compare?

[@Scorpion-es9ri]

@@Robiwan82 Yeah, considering that one dummy costs 2000$ not many can and will do that 🤔 It would just be really interesting to know if you would rather want to use an 7" 5,56 AR or an 9mm MP5🤔

[@child_warlord]

Doesn't make much diff per caliber

[@s00-x2h]

All shots at 7 yards through a Glock 17 7:25 **M882** ball through gut 9:33 **M882** through chest 11:25 **Critical Defense** through gut 11:36 "Why is the blood blue? Halo" 13:43 **Critical Defense** through chest 15:42 **Gold Dot** through gut 16:48 **Gold Dot** through chest 17:37 dissection on dummy #1 21:40 **HST** through gut 22:53 **HST** through chest 24:11 **Norma MHP** through gut 24:55 "Bring Me To Life" cover 25:36 another **MHP** through gut 26:18 **MHP** through chest 27:27 another **MHP** through chest 28:25 (easter egg?) 50AE 300gr Hornady XTP (I think) through chest at point blank 28:48 another XTP through the ribs

[@Alcatraz509]

Thank you for this. Ngl this video felt way too long and I just wanted to see the damage lmao.

[@gleeshk5146]

You the 🐐

[@tekila00985]

Thanks for the time stamp on the Evanescense cover.

[@BadazzShovelhead]

I'll do my own time hacks thank you. Stop making me see time stamps

[@KAWAZACHI]

Goated comment

[@Braindoner101]

‘If you ever missed any target because you didn’t train’ Man, he should have a hell of a lot more subscribers. I know I got a hell of a lot better after my CCW class. Then further improved after my Beginner handgun class.

[@t.r.4496]

I don't miss, I always use a 12 gauge with 000 buck shot.

[@flopus7]

I go to local steel matches. The thought of being mocked by boomers prevents misses

[@t.r.4496]

@@flopus7 Lmao the thing is with older people is they have been shooting before most of us was born. And a lot of them are veterans. I enjoy the competition.

[@flopus7]

@@t.r.4496 too many 1911s and Bianchi gear for my tastes

[@warrenharrison9490]

@@flopus7 truth.

[@RollingLiving]

When I started my LEO career we carried revolvers. When we transitioned to 9mm Glocks, the first duty ammo was 115 grain and the department's experience with that let them/us to change to 147 grain subsonic 9mm ammo...which had much better results and stopping power. Eventually, we changed to .40 department wide for duty carry. But off-duty, if carrying a 9mm, the 147 grain remained the preference.

[@vividfiber6668]

Did you feel that raw power when you shot someone? Just a question.

[@RollingLiving]

@@vividfiber6668 What makes you think I did? In 2 decades, I never had to. Just an answer...

[@King-_Of-_Mars]

Higher velocity is better for hollow points, higher grain count is better for penetration

[@drobgyn5615]

​@RollingLiving glad you didn't have to shoot anyone. Hope you're enjoying retirement brother.

[@mannys9130]

10:35 New Jersey, in their INFINITE firearms wisdom, has banned JHPs for carry/self defense. So, subjects of that state have to either carry plain ball FMJ ammo, something gimmicky like Extreme Defender or Glaser Safety Slugs or CorBon Pow'r Ball, something frangible and hope it breaks up after penetrating organs, or (preferably above ALL aforementioned options) something like Federal's EFMJ which is basically a bullet that has a lead base, a rubber nose, and a very thick copper jacket that covers over all of it. It looks and feels and shoots exactly like a FMJ bullet, but when it hits something that soft copper jacket collapses into the squishy rubber nose section and squashes it flat as a pancake against the lead base section so it mushrooms and sorta achieves the same JHP expansion effect. It's not the best, but it works better than plain ball. I just love how Federal created the EFMJ. It's a humongous middle finger and FUCK YOU to the asinine legislators who brew up such ridiculous bullshit as that.

[@ShizawnSanders]

Jokes on them because Xtreme defender is devastating. I'm guessing the Liberal place wants collateral damage so they can prosecute you for not dying and defending your life.

[@johndel1971able]

Hey bud, South Jersey here and you are mostly correct on that. We're allowed to use whatever ammo we like for self defense as long as it's in your home or on your property. All our lgs carry them. As far as a ccw, only retired LE and corrections can carry, literally no one else is given a ccw permit. That being said, most of my friends and a number of family are LE here and whether they can or not, they all carry jhp off duty. At the end of the day, this state absolutely despises citizens even owning firearms. They care more about criminals and people who aren't supposed to be here. Stay safe bud 👍

[@johndel1971able]

@Rick Christopher I'm 50 years old Rick, born and raised here and nothing will ever change. Even if we win in the SC, NJ will either defy the law like they normally do, or make the requirements worse than trying to get an FID card. You and I will be both horizontal before we can get a ccw. Our whole system here needs to be totally replaced for Jersey to ever change. For our 2nd rights as well as everything else, I'm leaving next year. This state is to corrupt, expensive, restricting, a police state etc, to waste anymore of my time here. I don't remember the black talon thing?

[@user-mu2ze3xi1y]

The Hornady Critical Duty/Defense is legal per letter from NJSP. Email NJ Firearms Academy for a copy of it.

[@user-mu2ze3xi1y]

@Wario Andretti dum dum boolits scary

[@mikethefireman6696]

The Hornady did exactly as designed; penetration, expansion and mass kinetic energy dump inside the target without over penetration = dead right there. With some clothing on the torso we might see some slightly different results with the HP ammo.

[@badkarma11b]

I carry Hornady critical duty +p in .45 for my bear gun and Hornady critical defense standard pressure in 9 for my concealed carry and home defense guns. My rationale is that the critical duty is going to be able to go through a wall/bear skull/car door if I need it to, and the critical defense isn't going to over penetrate when I don't want it to.

[@shaggnar2014]

Yep, it's not as good, but a lot of hollow points without the ballistic tip often get clogged with clothing. I specifically carry that stuff in winter for a reason because if that dummy was wearing a jacket it would have been the best performer.

[@chrisbaldwin7734]

It did exactly what it was advertised and designed to do.

[@jryker28]

Under rated comment. The point of hollow points is not exit your target

[@mpaxton6686]

My thoughts as well

[@coles.1524]

I know you’re already doing the “how to be deadly in the mountains” series but I also think it would be cool to get a rundown on your urban EDC setup and what you keep in your truck.

[@GarandThumb]

Yes

[@karllambert2350]

"Surviving the cities "

[@TheGreekSparten]

As a detroit man I think I'd be best qualified for these instructions

[@bibox9487]

@@GarandThumb what brand and model are your sunglasses? they are very cool

[@mackenziedowlearn891]

@@bibox9487 Pitt Vipers

[@anthonystoner9531]

The levels of enthusiasm in these videos is amazing, not only a great teacher, but also makes it look flawless and super entertaining. Thanks for the content man!

[@TheDoomWizard]

Douchebags with lots of money sounds like to me

[@ThunderHOWL16]

oh you’re doing tricks on it

[@HighFiveGuy13]

“Somewhere out there, there is a private sitting on the railway at NTC…” I felt that.

[@GarandThumb]

I feel your pain dude

[@UFPTX]

Truth!

[@dimsumdaddy9460]

I've been that private 😔

[@richwalter3107]

Tooo many memories of Yermo Annex...

[@darthtyranus7683]

JBLM rail load 24 hours 7 days a week I think I'm gonna 🤢 🤮

[@DonPatrono]

a few days ago the 9x19mm calibre was finally liberalized for civilian ownership/use, so this is incredibly well timed for Italy!

[@SUBARCTICPSYCHO]

"Calibree"

[@DonPatrono]

@-Biohazard- due to an old pre-WW2 (literally from the Fascist era) "Public Security Law", all "cartridges in current issue to the military" (so stuff that is not current issue like 6,5 Carcano is ok) are not allowed for civilian ownership, unless they derived from a civilian and commercially available cartridge (e.g. 7,62x51 and .308 WinMag). Recently an instance said that many other calibers freely available (including the 9x21) have basically the same ballistic capabilities of 9x19, and that criminals still managed to acquire 9x19 through illegal channels, so the only people hit by restriction were lawful gun owners, so the restriction was repealed and now 9x19 is commercially available, opening a whole new market

[@DonPatrono]

@@SUBARCTICPSYCHO sorry, i spelled it the BRI'ISH way

[@DonPatrono]

@-Biohazard- the original text of the law did, it was never repealed after the end of WW2 and the fall of the regime, only rearranged to include the changes in calibers (at the time of Mussolini, 9x19 was not even an issued cartridge, Italy had 9 Corto for the pistols and 9 Fiocchi for the SMGs)

[@DPham1]

Imagine that, gun laws are authoritarian and disproportionately affect law abiding citizens more than criminals. Glad they got rid of some of thst nonsense, and glad you guys got some freedom.

[@zachmaruda7397]

“What feels legal, but isn’t illegal” This is why i love this channel

[@50shadesofcerakote]

I had to watch that 3 times to make sure I heard it right haha

[@SkoV484]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:35 The video explores the effectiveness of 9mm ammunition and challenges the belief that .45 caliber is the only effective caliber for self-defense. 01:46 The video briefly promotes the mobile game "Raid: Shadow Legends" as a sponsor. 02:42 The video discusses testing different 9mm rounds, including military-grade M882, Hornady Critical Defense, Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, and Norma MHP. 07:42 M882 ball ammo showed over-penetration through a ballistic dummy's body. 11:40 Hornady Critical Defense demonstrated good expansion in the ballistic gelatin and stopped in the dummy's body. 15:49 Speer Gold Dot exhibited significant expansion and good performance, penetrating through the dummy's body. 23:03 Federal HST showcased excellent expansion, fragmentation, and lethal results, including sternum and rib fractures. 25:43 Norma MHP showed deflection and fragmentation, did not exit the ballistic dummy. 26:33 The chest shot with Norma MHP resulted in significant expansion and potential exit of the entire round. 27:49 The video concludes that while 9mm ammunition can be effective, the key factor is training for accurate shots. 28:17 A Desert Eagle .50 Action Express with a 300-grain round from Hornady is tested, but it still exits the target. 29:11 The importance of training in using firearms is emphasized, with mentions of training centers like Bear Solutions and Haley Strategic. Made with HARPA AI

[@BringDHouseDown]

Ty

[@vintagejock3951]

Thanks

[@johnsteve1789]

Charlie has incredible comedic timing and overall mannerisms. That ending was so perfect lmao. Get him on here more often.

[@robertbennett5427]

He's got the Mac from Super Troopers flare going... Love it 😂

[@daltonstokes5291]

"Is that an altoid?" Lmao

[@ChuntyCops]

“You know I hate spiders”

[@Outdoorslife1776]

This mfs built like a bowl of milk- Charlie 2022

[@j.r.777]

When I first got into firearms I bought the identical gun to what the department that I work for issues and uses. A Gen 3 (at the time) Glock 22. For my self defense ammo I started out using Federal Premium Hydrashok rounds. But then as I started buying more firearms and began doing independent testing I switched to Speer Gold Dot and Federal Premium HST rounds. With the testing that I did from multiple calibers, firearms, shot distances, barrier penetration, and everything else that I could simulate real life scenarios, I found that the Speer Gold Dot and Federal Premium ammo both performed virtually identical in every test, caliber and so on. I also discovered that they had the best results over every other JHP round that I tested. And there were a lot, in multiple firearms, barrel lengths, calibers, test mediums and so on. But then, I started testing Underwood Extreme Defender ammo and I was completely blown away (no pun intended) by the results in every caliber, firearms, barrel length and test medium. That ammo out performed every single other ammo in every test, caliber, barrel length, firearm, distance and test medium. As a result of that, the Underwood Extreme Defender ammo is all that I will use now. I still train with and buy Speer Gold Dot ammo and Federal Premium HST ammo because 2 neighboring agencies to the one that I work at use those specific brands of ammo. The County uses the Speer Gold Dot ammo and the city uses the Federal Premium ammo. There is s large pig farm about an hour to an hour and a half from where I live. The farmer is a good dude. Every now and then he will have a pig get injured or sick and it has to be put down. On a few occasions where the pigs could not be harvested we used them as our test mediums after they were humanely killed. We then x-rayed the results and could see how different rounds effect a body that yields very similar results to that of a human.

[@RADIOACTIVEBUNY]

Check out 9x25 Dillon. .357 Sig but with a 10mm instead of a .40 case to start. Bet that Underwood projo would do some work at 2200fps

[@j.r.777]

@@RADIOACTIVEBUNY, I’ll do that. I don’t have any firearms chambered in 9x25 Dillon yet but now you have me intrigued!

[@RADIOACTIVEBUNY]

@@j.r.777 Bar-Sto is really it for barrels. Anything they’ll shoot 10mm will shoot 9x25 Dillon if you can’t get a barrel for it. Glock and 1911 is really all there is. Underwood and I think Buffalo make ammo for it still. Gonna get a barrel for the G20 here one day. I want to see it come back because no shit like 55gr bullets at 2200FPS in like a 5-6” barrel. We’re talking carrying a 10” AR in your pocket. Insane numbers. Was an old competition cartridge to cheese the power factor rules back in the day but it’s since fallen Out of favor since the rules changed. Nobody thought to use it for self defense I guess since they were just happy to have more than 6 rounds between reloads in the wonder 9’s at that point. I’m convinced high speed pistol cartridges are the way to go, like 2000fps or more. But I’m not an arms manufacturer. Look at .224 boz, too. They just necked a 10mm down to take a 55gr .223 bullet lmao

[@PopBubbleWrappable]

I carry the Underwoods too. My only hangup with them is that there's no equivalent training ammo that I can find aside from Inceptor which, like Underwoods, are pretty damned expensive. I really wish someone would come up with some affordable 68gr ball ammo.

[@richwalter3107]

@J. R.; just went to the underwood site to check that round. I think I'll pass. My reasoning is that some jackass DA is going to prosecute a well intentioned, otherwise innocent, user who has to shoot someone who is Muslim, Asian, etc basing their accusations on the " holy cross" shape of the bullet. They could accuse the shooter of being some kind of egomanical " born again Crusader" who chose that particular bullet " because it is a symbol of Christian Imperialism" yadda yadda yadda .. I've been on two juries , one an abuse case, and the other a capital murder charge.. Prosecutors who don't have a solid case and face an otherwise normal, every day working man, defendant will use any dirty trick in the book to jack up the facts in their favor. In the capital murder case , the judge instructed us to disregard remarks of the prosecuting attorney twice because she was clearly operating in another reality, fabricating new abilities for .38 LWSC. I've read a lot of Massad Ayoobs books. In many cases he repeatedly cautions people to not use gimmick ammo just for those reasons . It does look like an interesting round, but I think I'll take my chances using a good performing conventional round.

[@evanacey1414]

I’m watching this in the bedroom with my gf who I assumed wasn’t paying any attention, but when Mike asked, “What feels illegal, but isn’t illegal?” in the intro she immediately answered, “An 18 yr old?”😂 WTF?!? My lady is savage AF bro!! REAL TALK!!

[@bravo6959]

Based female

[@PhileusActual]

She's a keeper! Lol

[@GarandThumb]

Lol holy shit

[@PhileusActual]

Now you have to marry her! Lol

[@drummingforhumans5066]

The critical defense is designed to get up to speed in a subcompact. I'd love to see all of these rounds fired through a small barrel and see if CD is actually better or if it's all smoke and mirrors.

[@ryancampbell883]

Mike, I think putting some clothing on the dummies, like a jacket or something would drastically change your results because some of the more open hollowpoint designs can actually get clogged. Atleast that's the theory...

[@logoseven3365]

Fleece or quilted. Nobody, except me, wears heavy wool. I bet it clogs a hollow point like a toilet after thanksgiving.

[@MaralushaUSMC]

I participated in a ballistic gelatin test with another agency. We tested 9mm and .40cal. Winchester rangers sxt, speer gold dot, and federal hst. In barr gelatin, the 9mm almost performed as well as .40cal. It was really close and comparable. When we introduced barriers such as clothing, windshield glass, and drywall, it changed the results. .40cal was almost unaffected; it was almost blind to the barriers. The 9mm was significantly degraded.

[@dariusszolnicki7585]

I’d love to see a video like that probably get very different results

[@sebastianriz4703]

I also think putting on a skin substitute on the dummies will change tests too. Clothing and skin wont stop bullets ofc but it will make the tests more realistic. Check out what Joreg Sprave does. He puts leather and clothing on his gel blocks before shooting them.

[@toddk1377]

I suggest to watch a few videos by TNOUTDOORS9 when he tests these rounds on gel with 4 layers of denim. There have been some rounds that do get clogged and fail to expand while others don't. Basically, shoot the bad guy until he drops and yours good, lol.

[@MajorMiscreant]

I feel like the more Mike and Admin hangout the more each of their big chimp energies grow.

[@matthewmillican4506]

Video idea: The affects of different rifle calibers, at a reasonable engagement distance, slicing through a prone ballistics dummy. The angle is relatively vulnerable, so seeing what carnage would ensue would be an interesting opportunity for scientific discovery. You could even slap some plates on the dummy to capture some of the energy that may be displaced.

[@sik1kraze]

This but shoot it through the bootyhole.

[@SlapStyleAnims]

@@sik1kraze Tip to butt

[@-Jame-]

@Nathaniel Perkins & @SlapStyle Anims Hell, why not do both

[@anthonylutz118]

If you were to do this it would be good to slap a head on it.

[@frisk3320]

the point is, they're like 2k US dollar each

[@Jeffrey_Tyler]

I like the blue blood vs the red because the blue makes it easier to see the internal bleeding. I think it's extremely important to see the internal bleeding in this type of video.

[@suzettespencer]

I personally operated on several people shot with both FMJ and HP. Other than making slightly bigger holes, there is no significant difference. When a solid organ is shot like the liver, the petals will cause more bleeding in the HP. FMJ do penetrate more, especially when it hits bone.

[@ambjornborjesson5481]

Yeah, the greater damage is more of a bonus really. The reduced over penetration is the big thing. JHP can still dangerously overpenetrate, just way lower risk.

[@michaelwestmoreland2530]

I dead ass thought you meant you were a Ranger for the longest. "I operated on them....Is that a new way of saying killing? Or...Doctor. That makes more sense."

[@Lakikano]

This has always been my suspicion. I can’t think of any part of the human anatomy that would be meaningfully damaged by a hollow point but not a ball round.

[@moreparrotsmoredereks2275]

@@michaelwestmoreland2530 Maybe it was both?

[@GranFinale]

Yes, HSP/JHP creates larger wounds but the benefit is in less over penetration. You want to hit the intended target, not the subjects behind it.

[@bdhhsgbyddhggg]

For those looking for a short, less entertaining answer: Very. Very deadly.

[@EtherFox]

Popular defense loads for 9mm known for their expansion and penetration in gel tests performed well in a gel torso - who could have guessed!?

[@Ironpine27]

@Robert Seaes You say that until you're hit by one. 9mm is still popular for a reason.

[@ResidentIT_]

@Robert Seaes fudd spotted

[@pridemizzle1565]

@Robert Seaes dumb comment

[@elmSTREETnasty]

@Robert Seaes "WHAT ABOUT MUH STOPPING POWER? I WANNA KNOCK HIM DOWN, NOT PISS HIM OFF" - babydik .45 owner

[@Fly_Fishing_Fool]

Gotta say (as an actual physician assistant in the state of AZ lol), the Hornady didn't get a fair chance. You fired it midline, right at the spine. Not surprised that it didn't go through.... Either way, loved the video. Certainly demonstrated the difference between ball ammo and quality hollow points--that's for sure! I would love to see a comparison video between .380, 9mm, .40sw, .45acp, and 10mm hollow points... Then maybe a revolver caliber review.... Asking for too much ?? :P

[@Fella48]

AZ in the house!!

[@latetotheparty7551]

I've read the handgun calibers, in general, aren't significantly different when hitting the human body given the general elasticity of the human body and relatively low muzzle velocity (sub 2000 fps).

[@tylercoble8630]

I thought one of the main points of a hollow point was not to go though

[@thegodfather_8455]

@@latetotheparty7551 thats why people argue in favor of the 45, the increased diameter

[@latetotheparty7551]

@@thegodfather_8455 My original pint was that handgun rounds don't differ in a significant way on the human body, in no small part due to muzzle velocity which is markedly higher with shotguns and rifles. It's not about diameter of the round as that's negated by terminal ballistics.

[@tommyv4787]

Very unique and very funny! “Are those Altoids?” 😂 Thank you for making me smile!!

[@True_Patriotx]

The only problem with your ballistic gel dummies is the fact that they are missing the tactical beer gut that can be used to absorb some of the impact of a 9mm to survive.

[@knightwolf5006]

lmao

[@drjoshuamc]

“Tactical Girth” as OG says

[@robison87]

Lots of tactical fattys in their winter coats.

[@kurtbatman8062]

As someone who also freaks out on spiders, I can understand that. I once was walking in some woods and saw a massive fat ass spider hiding under a fallen tree. I pulled my carry gun and fucking yeeted him. Hornady critical defense .380 ACP will slap some mf spiders.

[@squidy4082]

Lmao I’d do that

[@nathan-ls8yw]

yup….sounds like something i’ll do😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Daemon_Tenebrarum]

when you're a spider just vibing in your natural habitat and some dude named "Kurt" blasts you into the Nth dimension with Horny rounds.

[@wakandawildman2043]

@@Daemon_Tenebrarum lol but seriously nothing should have that many legs fuck those guys

[@sharkey5150]

I have to say it, I hate when any living creature is killed for no reason at all, especially one that was literally sitting in its own home just chillen, not hurting anyone but, DAMN!!! that MF spider shouldn’t of been there when You happened by!! I won’t go out of my way to “desk pop” a spider but, they totally scare the shiz out of me at any distance. I wonder why that is? Is that just “programed” into most of our humans genes from thousands of years of evolution? Or Movies? Hard Rock? Video Games ???? 🙃

[@christiangibson7285]

I have the great pleasure of working as a surgical technician for the USAF (4N1X1) and have pulled several bullets out of people and the critical defense has always expanded well. Fortunately the polymer tip makes it easy to distinguish and I was able to share what I know of defensive ammo to the surgeon that had no clue what that red plastic bit was.

[@RealHank1791]

Aside form the info, it's just fun watching these guys work together.

[@SA-xf1eb]

The Hornady is not underpowered. It did Exactly what it was designed and intended to do. Moderate recoil, significant expansion and minimal overpenetration. Perfect personal defense round.

[@MaverickHeloPilot]

I'm guessing you're referring to the Horny, correct?

[@rickcalbert8814]

Besides all that, Hornady critical defense ( my EDC load ), doesn't shoot flames out of the barrel, which will blind you at night, like a camera flash. Flamethrowing guns are cool in the movies, not in real life.

[@Trickerking2014]

Agreed! The Critical Defense is supposed to be a self defense load to reduce the likelihood of over penetration. To compare the Gold Dot to Hornady, one really has to use the Hornady Critical Duty, which was made for L.E. use.

[@Army11b]

I agree. This is what I use for EDC. I’m actually really happy seeing the results from this video. I do NOT want over penetration.

[@stevewhite7078]

I was about to make the same claim but saw you said it perfectly. I totally agree brother. That's why that is my EDC round

[@felixcat9318]

9mm ammunition has come a long way over the years and there's no reason that a well aimed, appropriate 9mm cartridge wouldn't have the desired effect when striking the torso of an attacker.

[@makotoyuki2199]

Oh yeah. 9x19mm Parabellum was sort of... okay for a little bit, but better than calibers that came before it. As of now, I'd consider it literally the best for what you get. Capacity, versatility, velocity, joules, everything if loaded right!

[@DangerousFreedoms]

9mm ratshot is my EDC.

[@bryanbaker5942]

.45 has come a long way over the years also. So has .40 SW. so has 10mm, so has .357 magnum. Where you put your caliber, just insert any caliber. Shoot what you’re comfortable with and can afford. Or find nowadays.

[@l.a.2646]

@@bryanbaker5942 I was finally able to find defensive ammunition but was unable to afford it. Yikes it's gotten really expensive. I have to stick with my flat nose service fmjs for awhile longer. My wife EDC is .380 and same boat as me and my 9 mm. Hopefully they (defensive) become more plentiful soon !

[@Sk0lzky]

@@l.a.2646 are dum dums/home drilled hollow points illegal? I mean they are over here but Geneva only applies in war 3:)

[@bwilk6372]

Charlie is a blast, need more of him

[@BudgiePanic]

Sus

[@bwilk6372]

@@BudgiePanic yes

[@sampsonlll1825]

He's like Toby from The Office

[@Mr.Sprymars]

"Built like a bowl of milk" that really did me in

[@thomasmacgruber6701]

Hes gay.

[@Andy0950]

I also work in emergency medicine and this is absolutely true. You would think people would survive 9mm gut shots but they typically wont survive because of the infection and the intestines with hollow points will have so many tiny holes it's nearly impossible to find them all and surgically fix them and even if you can the infection spreads to fast. It's very difficult to survive. Long shots nearly instant death from a 9mm hollow point with fmj you have a fairly good shot at surviving. If you reach the hospital quickly.

[@Andy0950]

*Lung

[@JohnSmith-fq7dk]

I love how you do experiments that we actually think about and need to know.

[@Im_Old_Gregg]

It would be interesting to see how these perform after going through a couple layers of clothing. I think that's a selling point of the Hornady is the polymer prevents the hollow point getting clogged with debris on the way in.

[@dhsu04]

Yes sir, that's correct. That's why J.J. Wittenborn, Illinois SWAT sniper/team commander, 27 years of experience prefer Hornady.

[@striperswiper1]

In 380 and 9mm I did test with clothing on bags of oranges with pork ribs on front and back. Hornaday performed ok. FEDERAL HST, and UNDERWOOD EXTREME DEFENSE stole the show.

[@ammarchetta]

Yes if am going to just shoot naked people this would be a good test otherwise it's just click bait

[@tjzulu1]

Clothing is basically a moot point.....

[@winkletown8828]

I'm almost concerned about someone wearing a shirt 🤣

[@cooper9643]

I’d love to see a remake of this with more exotic 9mm defensive rounds like underwood extreme defender, fort scott TUI, liberty civil defense and g2 research RIP

[@ShizawnSanders]

Yeah, I carry the xtreme defender +P. I like its ability to get through stuff but then tumble in soft tissue.

[@tlhudson6132]

I carry liberty civil

[@tlhudson6132]

It's different. Extremely loud compared to normal 9mm and the recoil is really different too.

[@ryansheesley3703]

Sellier and Bellot

[@HugoStiglitz1000]

Underwood is crap so yeah don't buy it ever because you're dumb if you do and you should buy other stuff please

[@that1s3curityguard26]

Love your channel man. Educational but really fun. You guys seem like you’d be fun to hang out with.

[@BusyBadger]

My wife, during Christmas shopping, "Why did you park so far from the entrance?" Me, "The comment section is out of control."

[@TheMclaujo]

“Low drag, high snatch” No better dad advice has ever been given.

[@Bitter_Blueberry]

I absolutely love that you kept the spider bit in there lmao 🤣

[@sturdybutter]

I know the ballistic dummies aren’t totally accurate but I’m gonna have to agree with Micah. Most of those rounds are overpowered. If I have to shoot an intruder inside of my house, the last thing I want is the round to travel through and go through the wall into my kids room, etc. glad I’ve always stuck with the critical duty for all my defensive firearms.

[@chiquita683]

💯

[@Nordheide]

Bro critical duty will go through! What you want is critical defense, not duty

[@Lilbittywhor3]

Critical duty will definitely go through, thats what its designed for. Critical defense is the one tested in the video and the one designed to not over penetrate

[@ChunkyDogWater]

Get critical defense, or better yet g9

[@XmXFLUXmX2]

I dont care about overpen. If the neighborhood took better care of itself, I wouldn't have to shoot through the walls lol.

[@TheBest9zq]

I love how raid is willing to sponsor literal anything

[@Chames_Chaikowski]

I witnessed a stand your ground shooting at a gas station a while back , a dude got blasted 6 times in the torso at about 4 yards away with 380 target rounds . A few of the rounds completely penetrated the guys body and hit a car that was 15ft away. The wildest part about the whole thing is that the guy survived the shooting , I still can’t believe it . If he would’ve been hit with horny criticical defense rounds , he probably would’ve died on the spot and the car wouldn’t have been hit .

[@beansofhorrorshalashaska6987]

Did the dude go down after the first shot? Did he get back up after the 6th shot? Seems like shot placement is the most important thing, that and getting the first shot off.

[@MTeee3]

"Horny critical defense rounds" dude my sides😂

[@ahole5407]

Is this a paid marketing comment or are you trying to defend your choice of ammunition 😂

[@Chames_Chaikowski]

@@ahole5407 I just wanted to tell the story , and I used “horny critical defense “ because that’s what I have , and I prefer to call them horny because it’s funnier that way .

[@dudeinadoughboy4327]

This sounds like it came straight out of a gun ad in the Red Dead Redemption 2 catalogue

[@scarmenl]

Round placement is the answer, bullet size can make a difference but being a good shot is far more important!

[@sneak916]

Or both

[@mtthwpnn]

A "bad hit'' is better than a "good miss"

[@Lifechanging99999]

Round placement is King.

[@RosaParksWasWyt]

True but when the bullet doesn’t even make it through the bone to hit the vitals then the bullet size kinda matters

[@johncoleman5974]

Round placement compliments bullet size those.

[@LifeInElSalvador]

Dr. VIDS WITH CHARLY'S COMMENTS ARE THE BEST ! NEVER 1 MINUTE BORING. THE WHOLE TEAM IS AWESOME

[@Deerslayer1912]

I can't believe you said "Hornady" wrong this entire video. Everybody knows it is pronounced "Horn Daddy"

[@GarandThumb]

My bad sorry

[@ThrashTillDeth85]

I'm not too surprised by the Hornady, Gold Dots, and HSTs, didn't expect that from the Norma ammo though. Also that Desert Eagle at the end I went huh that's what that would look like cause I just rewatched the original Matrix movie last night and that first shot was almost spot on with a shot in the movie

[@soonerfrac4611]

I know that when I finally left doing military LEO we carried JHPs as duty ammo. About half of the time was M882 like he said but the last bit was definitely Winchester JHPs.

[@richardstarr2794]

Yes I'm sure you know better than the FBI who switched to the Hornady Critical Duty rounds 🙄 the Critical Defense round is specifically designed for low recoil and decent penetration out of a under 3" barrel, definitely not a duty round by any means.

[@brandonschwertley2723]

Cool, hopefully the start of a series on the common handgun cartridges. 9mm, 40 SW, 45 ACP, .357 SIG, .357 Magnum, .380 ACP, and 38 special.

[@MimicAura93]

I love the chemistry between the guys on the crew. It makes me laugh everytime and I know they enjoy their job

[@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962]

I'd like to see what kind of injuries would be caused by the exiting bullets to a second ballistic dummy behind the first.

[@krisc2476]

Fmj 9mm will go through two human bodies with no difficulty

[@marcuseverett1642]

All due respect... Alec Baldwin showed us that... though it was with a .45 we saw one bullet hit two people.

[@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962]

@@marcuseverett1642 But that was a prop gun. 😎 Seriously though. EXCELLENT point. I would assume the 45 LC that Alec negligently discharged would be FMJ, but what would a JHP do? That 50AE was devastating, but would be fatal to some standing behind?

[@blackhawkinternationalsecu6962]

@@krisc2476 I have no doubt. But what will JHPs do to the second body?

[@A_Final_Hit]

I second your recommendation. 👍🏽

[@zbreeden7622]

We need a video testing some weird exotic 9mm rounds out there like liberty civil defense and g2 rip. And prove whether it truly is terrible or effective.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

ARFCOM has some gel tests on them. (Also ChoppingBlock. Same guy does both channels)

[@vtecfed420]

I just posted a comment about the Liberty 🗽 Civil Defense ammo. I thinks it's one of the best. I have shot over 1k rds in a G19 and a Sig P229 Elite. I've had 2 malfunctions in the Sig, but I attribute it to the LCI on the slide

[@JC101Zero]

@Robert Seaes man you're just upset today aren't ya? Like 3rd comment ive seen from you

[@richwalter3107]

Also,look into the " heavy for calibre" Seismic ammo line. 185 gr. 9 mm anyone ?

[@zbreeden7622]

@Papa Bleach when it comes to trolls at this point I always remember there are entire reddit threads that are nothing but a bunch of trollbots arguing via algorithm and remember to ignore trolling.

[@v.german11b]

Norma MHP appears to expand the most in other tests I've seen, causing a very nasty traumatic internal wound. With that said, Federal has a reputation for reliable expansion.

[@GarandThumb]

MHP, federal and speer all performed very well

[@v.german11b]

@@GarandThumbI concur. I have ammo from those 3 manufacturers, and a few others, given the still unpredictable ammo availability. Thanks for taking the time to conduct this test, which it's more telling than a plain ballistic gel block.

[@ichbinwolfgang]

@@GarandThumb I wonder how the Critical Duty or Critical Duty +P would compare against the Critical Defense.

[@jarinwilson9539]

@@GarandThumb Sig is great as well!

[@oldscratch3535]

@@ichbinwolfgang From what I understand Critical Duty has a harder lead that keeps more of the core intact to make it barrier blind. You would likely see less expansion and more penetration. I can't remember if its a bonded bullet or not. I don't think it is. The differences are harder lead, thicker jacket, and a stronger interlock band to keep the core engaged with the jacket.

[@DylanKreutzer]

Please do another video with sub-compact handguns! Would also love to see a wider range of ammunition options tested, since the really widely regarded ones like Speer Gold Dot can be so hard to find and so expensive when you do find them

[@bgshdouf]

These are my favorite videos, the difference in ballistics is so interesting to me and I feel like I learn a lot of practical information about various calibers and rounds. All of which has led me to the conclusion that the ultimate home defense weapon is a Barret M82 with an M203 affixed (somehow) to it. The M203 will be primarily loaded up with inert rounds for close range and the M82 is loaded up with spotter rounds to touch someone a bit further, or to disregard body armor.

[@StormBringare]

If you're willing to switch the M82 for a M107 there's enough rail to mount the M203 upside down instead of a scope. I dunno how you're gonna aim it but I'm guessing it's possible to juryrig a laser underneath 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Krangbot]

You think burglars with body armor are coming to steal your shit?

[@StormBringare]

@@Krangbot On a serious note it's more and more common with criminals with (soft) body armor. Mostly to protect them from eachother but you know.

[@Ring3R]

It'd be fun to see you do some testing with modern loadings of .45-70 or .30-30. Particularly the .45-70....a whole bunch of people were shot with that back in the day. It'd be comical to see what a round that was regularly used to yeet bison does to one of these torso models. I know your usual wheelhouse is modern stuff but it'd make for a fun cowboy themed episode......or maybe just the ending, like you did with the .50 AE here. Chaps or bust.

[@mikeyvicious2399]

I have a Ruger No. 3 government issue 45 /70. I recently bought a box of nylon tips, dude at the gun shop asked "whatcha' takin' down? A huey?" lol. Amazing rifle, but it will set your a$$ on the ground.

[@LaneB16]

I would love to see the effects of m193 on a torso with 10.3”, 14.5/16” and 20” barrels

[@ShizawnSanders]

They all would be devastating at those ranges and all would go through.

[@user-oy8dl1er5h]

Every time I watch a video about M193 in ballistic gel, well it's pretty gruesome. ShootingTheBull810 made a video about M193 out of a 16 inch barrel and the result is pretty devastating. 14.5 I imagine would not be very different than 16. 10.3 might not give enough velocity to ensure M193's trademark fragmentation though

[@Sidekick_Snowman]

I'd really love to see this as well. The same thing with m855 too.

[@jimjab3631]

You would need to have a non compressible fluid in there for the purpose of hydraulics. It would add greatly to the damage

[@LaneB16]

@@jimjab3631 just the torso like in the video would be more than enough but that would be fun to see

[@razorsharpbt7666]

The Big Guy says a 9mm will blow a lung out of your body.

[@WillMarr13]

What feels legal but isn't illegal? Renting a 19.99 U-Haul truck and swapping the engine out with your truck's engine.

[@Stormclowe]

Critical Defense (Hornady) is underpowered compared to the others because it's meant for short subcompact guns. When you test the Critical Duty, you'll see improved performance out of full size guns.

[@MuchKoku]

That's interesting. I carry Critical Defense in my EDC G19. Would you say I'm losing potential performance or would the difference be negligible in your opinion?

[@Stormclowe]

@@MuchKoku at this point, it's basically carry what you can find. In the end, a bullet is a bullet, and pistols are anemic.

[@the_intolerance]

@@MuchKoku if you have good accuracy don't worry about your bullets. you could have .22's and tear people apart. it's all about your capabilities with the weapon imo.

[@MrFloogy]

Different rounds. Defense expands more reliably, while duty being designed for barrier penetration like windshields doesn't expand as easily or as much as Defense. I would say Critical Defense is better than Duty for most CCW applications. I would pick Duty over Defense in longer barreled handguns and PCCs though. All that said, I choose Gold Dot and HST over both because they're superior IMO and typically cost less (50rd boxes) than the Hornady.

[@ahole5407]

Hornady is nothing more than marketing. If they put the money into testing and development to outperform the competition that would be all the marketing they need. Speer gold dot Remington Golden saber and federal law enforcement HST in 147gr 9mm and 230gr 45acp are proven to be the best for defense. The fancy boutique rounds are not practical.

[@raidmaster6879]

"9mm kills the body but .45acp kills the soul, we can't have them coming back as a lich"

[@Ww1whiz1914]

The homemade camera quality, like the wobbliness makes these videos very funny and, in my opinion, better.

[@texastigerlsu1]

As a nurse in New Orleans, one of the largest centers of gun violence in the world, you would be amazed at what the human body can survive. What ya'll perceive as more powerful, a through and through, usually does less damage. The hollow points that splinter apart generally knick multiple organ systems making them more fatal.

[@stn7172]

What's your take on this convid?

[@PiranahKill]

I think what they mean by "more powerful" is in reference to how much energy the round is carrying not so much how much its transfering to the target per se. Although over penetration definitely wouldn't be the only predictor of how much energy a bullet was carrying.

[@jonknocks111]

Hollow point it is then.

[@OddBallPerformance]

More powerful in this sense means that military loads tend to be "hotter" than most civilian box ammo. Higher pressures and thus velocity. This is not always the case for all, just this instance, for clarification.

[@irritatingtruth9121]

@Tstan Can’t blame ya for asking when you can lol! Pssst I think we all know

[@castlecarry]

Videos like this, while also full of jokes and silliness, are exactly the kind of information we need to better understand our tools and what they are capable of.

[@berzerkskwid]

22:56 you can see a fragment fail to penetrate the cardboard and just tumble down. Wild it cleared the back of the body but didn't have enough residual energy to push through the cardboard.

[@fatkido1369]

The Fudds have never seen what a 10mm full power lost will do to flesh lol

[@scoolman6790]

Hornady Critical is designed to not be a through and through, to minimize risk and damage to anyone or anything behind the target. It performed exactly as it was designed to.

[@richardstarr2794]

Actually the Critical Defense is designed to be a effective low recoil round for sub compact carry guns. It definitely doesn't have the best penetration characteristics but that's a byproduct of the faster burning but lower pressure powder load used to produce less recoil.

[@M.C.1903]

ACKTSHUALLY

[@richardstarr2794]

@@M.C.1903 it's okay poor, I understand losers like you are too broke to be able to afford premium ammo 🤔

[@M.C.1903]

@@richardstarr2794 Nah dude, you just sound like a nerd.

[@jasonfelda8105]

Regarding the Critical Defense being under-powered, please note that Hornady designed the Critical Defense for use in compact pistols. It would likely be akin to using HST Micro instead of regular HST. The Critical Duty is specifically designed for use in full-size pistols, like the one utilized in the video. Not really an apples to apples comparison since you were using ammo not designed for that use case. I'd love to see how the Critical Duty would stand up next to the Gold Dot and the HST.

[@nomad-1776]

I remember doing research on my ccw ammo a few years ago. I chose Federal HST over the Speers on a coin flip. It seems like both were good choices after all.

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

I had a friend buy a used beretta 92 that accidentally discharged when the hammer dropped while holstered. Put a federal HST directly between the tib & fib in his calf and expanded perfectly in less than 4 inches of tissue while he was wearing jeans. I bought a box the next day.

[@c.r.chandler5905]

@@humantwist-offcap9514 damn........ Bet your buddy has a hell of a story when he goes to the beach

[@BANDERSJR]

In some local testing the gold dot 124 Grain was also the most accurate. Speer makes really good ammo.

[@TheDkb427]

@Sqwee some trigger guard locks can cause accidental discharge. I carry with hammer half cocked as I've had my seat belt take the safety off. Danger danger. Safety first yo.

[@TheDkb427]

@JeromePowell HuffsPaintBeforeMeeting I get that the first pull is DA. But most accidently discharge are from ppl drawing from or in their holster. Plus I'm so use to drawl, safety, sight alignment, fire.

[@blakehorn229]

I carry every day but watching these makes me want to not be out and about in all honesty. I truly don't ever want to have to use mine on someone...can't imagine how I'd feel knowing I had to use one of my PD Rounds on an actual human...but with how crazy the world is these days and that I have 3 kids and a wife to attend to...ill keep carrying to make sure when I do go out ill have a better chance at coming back (I work around Detroit...thankfully I've changed up my business model to where I stay primarily in safe areas now a days though)

[@cnutter1984]

I would love to see some drywall, interior home doors and solid front door barrier tests on those torsos. Basically, see how well various calibers and bullets perform penetrating simulated interior home walls and doors then into the torsos. Just a thought I had after watching your videos.

[@ricksmith7232]

I second this, he needs to make this video

[@dthundergunb3115]

He should definitely add a Xtreme penetrator rounds from underwood ammo too hydraulic displacement rounds would probably pass through all 3

[@50shadesofcerakote]

Cars doors I think could be a more realistic test. Shouldnt really shoot through walls to hit a guy, but a car door is a small enough piece of concealment I think itd be ok.

[@cnutter1984]

@@50shadesofcerakote While, I agree car doors or windows and windshileds are a good video alao. Home protection is a likely place for most people. So all homes have walls, corners, door frames and other house hold objects that may get in the way while you are engaging a target. The bad guy ducks hehind a corner or door frame as you are shooting? These are things you will incounter in the home. Again, the test should include over pen on the torsos also. Does the bullet pass though the torso and the drywall behind it? How far?

[@SharkByteOfficial]

@@cnutter1984 since the video you want probably wont get made... heres a hint. Most of these hollowpoint 9mm cartridges will go thru the walls clean but get clogged up as before they enter the torso causing most of them to act like ball ammo to most degree. Some will expand but obviously that is up to random chance. If a bad guy were to duck behind a wall he'd still be very dead assuming you knew where to aim. The distance of overpenetration can't be tested either because the spacing in every home is different and energy is lost significantly the more it penetrates and travels. Generally a 9mm has the energy to pass through 3 or 4 walls assuming it may hit a wooden beam here or there. This is why 12g buckshot #04 is the ideal by far for home defense.

[@Redhawk-is3qw]

I love how Garand don't even care about the KZbin sensorship bull, he just sends it.

[@colddeadhand7414]

It's pretty safe to say that anyone carrying either the Speer or the HST can carry with confidence that the round is gonna do its job.

[@Eagl3xStrik3]

Basically, if it's a hallow point, is better than FMJ. People delve way too much in minuscule differences.

[@TheDkb427]

Some hollow points straight up suck. Like those Remington 147gr cup and core bullets. Or those Sierra outdoorsman bullets. They don't expand and pretty much are fmjs. Think they load em weak sauce. Gold dot and HST are good to go.

[@jhordanmayo7456]

@12:30 Mike “ oh this is disgusting “ Charlie “ I’m rock hard rn “ funniest fucking thing I’ve heard in a min😂😂😂

[@Sedan57Chevy]

Aside from some potentially interesting information, these videos are just plain fun to watch. Thanks to GT and the crew for continuing to make these videos!

[@uloco2163]

I’ve shot a lot of ammo before and honestly hornady is in my opinion the best I’ve shot so far . Hornady is not underpowered it did exactly what it was supposed to do . Penetration is key .

[@Absorbant]

Penetration you say 🤨

[@tomthumb9533]

Hornady "American Gunner" ammo is their +P line & it's very accurate; unlike most hyper ammo

[@kirkthorpe5392]

What they were saying in the beginning of the video is that the dummy gel is not quite as dense, as thick (most Americans are fat or else muscular) nor does it have clothes on, so they would expect bullets to pass thru the dummy that otherwise wouldn’t pass thru a real person in clothes. So because the bullets did not pass thru, they’re assuming in a real person, with clothes on, thicker, and higher density there would be under penetration.

[@ghill1010]

The critical defense is meant to be under powered to keep from over penetration and to make compact and sub compact more controllable. So there is that. Lol. Awesome stuff per usual. Thanks!!!!

[@taraswertelecki3786]

It's not under-powered, not with a muzzle velocity of 1,140 from a 4-inch barrel with a 115-grain bullet. It does expand and penetrate very well.

[@kansaspatriot2051]

Bullet technology has made 9mm Luger a VERY valuable self defense round. I absolutely LOVE my 124gr Hydra-Shoks!

[@jamesbrandon8520]

Hornady is more for home defense so in my opinion that’s what you want, a round that doesn’t exit so it doesn’t keep going through walls and family members

[@matthewallen9290]

I've never hit an animal with a Hornady and had it stay together. Any caliber

[@kylehouge9690]

I’d like Charlie to become a regular please. He’s a medical squire that gets aroused by gut holes, he took a stop the squeeze class, and he’s got altoids. He’s an asset.

[@GarandThumb]

Agreed

[@leonardolara1862]

I love Norma’s target ammo. Cheap and accurate. However, I would stay away from their MHP rounds for defense. I’ve seen multiple videos of these rounds not expanding after hitting Ballistic Gel with Fabric in front of it. The fabric would clog the bullet’s cavity and keep it from expanding. Unless the guy attacking me is completely naked, I’ll keep my firearm loaded with Federal HST +P ammunition

[@muddytiresmtb7415]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was naked given today's world

[@NotBrianStelter]

My favorite gunpowder based science channel on YT.

[@hrdknox2000]

A medical, "Squire", is called a, "Resident". LOL! Love the New Jersey doctor joke (Is that a joke?). 😆

[@Ezees23]

This has been a great vid on different ammo and a torso and I wouldn't want to be hit with either round. The question in the Prelude about missing a target: The only time that I can remember that I've missed a whole Able, Baker, or Charlie target was when I was initially zeroing in my iron-sighted M16-A2 in Marksmanship training at MCRD Parris Island in '87. After then I've allways at least hit paper/objects - except if the pistol or rifle sights were WAY off. The lesson: Good basics take you a looong way...and to this day I don't use optics on any firearms. I will be getting some optics for low-light situations though. Peace to all - 'til it's time for the other thing because of some belligerents.

[@pontiacmaniac2]

If you've ever missed the last round of a range session, and you had to load another mag cause you can't end on a low note, go ahead and hit that subscribe button.

[@e39lover73]

I love that 4:20 was the most replayed. Gotta be the most vulgarity I've ever heard in these videos and its hilarious 😂

[@ethanquinn6576]

These experiments are awesome! They give us the knowledge that we need especially this one seeing as most people cc 9mm. Love this type of content and especially the pit vipers👍

[@Mirageknight2133]

@Robert Seaes would you like to be shot by one? It's such a weak round right? Can't do anything, yeah? Gtfoh

[@joshturner9766]

@Robert Seaes any round is a round for a pussy xD in uk we use melee tacticts

[@djjaysky9071]

@Robert Seaes 9mm is used more than all other pistol rounds combined

[@sebastianriz4703]

@Robert Seaes Jeeeeeez bro. Your muh stopping powar infiriority is showing like a spotlight

[@MaralushaUSMC]

@Robert Seaes I prefer .40 over 9mm. Unfortunately my agency will be swapping our .40s for 9mm.

[@Ammo_HD]

I wouldn’t say Hornady is under powered since you don’t really want HPs to over penetrate anyway. But it would be interesting to see the Hornady against a heavy jacket, or any of the rounds for the matter. See how well they punch through the Jacket and into the dummy

[@CaveLife652]

Very scientific. Your experimental design, hypothesis, methodology, meticulous document, and discussion was thorough and exhaustive. Science certified.

[@GDddy407]

The Hornady does exactly what its supposed to ! Stop the unwanted without getting the kids, dog or Granny.

[@halfasoap1172]

Hearing "built like a bowl of milk", and then the spider on the hat seconds later killed me. Not as well as .45 would kill someone though.

[@cshader2488]

Would like to see this same test with the dummy wearing a shirt and leather jacket. I’m wondering if the early expansion would hinder the Speer.

[@theferrill7353]

From what limited knowledge I have, what usually happens with hollow point w/o a polymer tip is after going through a barrier, like dry wall, glass, or clothing, the tip gets clogged and either has limited or no expansion. If the round has a polymer tip then the dry wall or glass, clothing wouldn't had enough resistance to do this, could cause the tip to prematurely expand the round.

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

clothing has about the same effect on bullets that a banana has against a hatchet. it makes no difference

[@theferrill7353]

@@zyourzgrandzmaz Hahaha, I like that analogy

[@cshader2488]

@@zyourzgrandzmaz pretty sure you’re wrong there, especially when it comes to heavy coats.

[@bradleymckinney6825]

That's why I carry Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P in my 75B. It really doesn't have that much more recoil, as it's pressure isn't too deep into what we would call +P pressures. Please do a test on the new M1152 ball ammunition used for the M17 from Winchester. I'm very curious how it performs being a flat nosed round. That's sitting just under 40,000 PSI.

[@richardstarr2794]

There's nothing wrong with +P rounds, all modern Glocks are rated for +P.

[@bradleymckinney6825]

@@richardstarr2794 Never said anything is wrong with them, however, obviously, some aren't created equal. I'm actually building a Michigan Cherry Red (More like a burgandy) framed Glock 19 with Carbon Fiber/PETG.

[@Big88Country]

Hey Brother, I would love to see this test using .380, 9mm, .45, and 10mm using only Liberty Civil Defense ammo. The fastest, hardest hitting hand gun ammo made. Your content with a little humor is TOP SHELF!! Appreciate you for what ya do for all of us! I was carrying HST's before coming across the Liberty Civil Defense.

[@funwithballistics1016]

Very impressive stuff!

[@trikelife4960]

Oh my fuck, this has been my favorite episode to date. The dialogue is epic. I hope you'll have Charlie on the channel more often. His medical expertise and sternly confused look on his face at all times adds legitimacy and intimacy that other science programs lack.

[@mattmarzula]

I did some 9mm, 5.56x45mm, and 7.62x51mm vs human torsos back in the day. Didn't have a gel dummy. Only one of those has stopped and dropped them instantly. Wasn't 9mm. However, it will keal.

[@F3EDER]

Depends on where you hit...

[@mattmarzula]

@@F3EDER True enough but, you can't hit everyone in the heart on the move. Especially at night. I'll contend with your point by typing that it depends on a lot more than shot placement. While that is the most critical factor, some people are definitely more motivated than others. Whether it's religious fanaticism, drugs, a combination of those, or simply being a thick ass boi... You can only speculate how a man reacts to being shot. Some continue to fight, some scream for a while, some just die straight away. I met a man who was working as a cop in Fayetteville, North Carolina. We got on the subject of how bullets react to people and vice versa. It was a good conversation. I had a few more stories than him but, I liked his better. Anyway, he snuck a Hornady Critical Duty 124gr under a man's armpit during a traffic stop about 10m away. It caused the assailant to drop his gun. Then, the guy ran up to the cop looked him in the eyes, tried to speak, ran back to the car and flopped. Autopsy report stated that the round passed through the right lung and heart settling in the left lung. Couldn't ask for a better kill shot. I reiterate: I've only ever had one round stop a man instantly. It wasn't 9mm.

[@mattmarzula]

@Great White likewise.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Comparing rifle to handgun ammo is ridiculous. A rifle is always considered the primary firearm of any officer or enlisted man. The sidearm is the backup weapon because it’s not as lethal as they don’t deliver lots of wound trauma compared to a rifle, have limited lethal range, and are harder to accurately aim. You hit any section of the nervous system on anyone with any round and they’ll drop like a sack of rocks. Hypersonic rifle rounds cause significant wound trauma, energy dispersion causes the tissue in the projectiles path into a gelatin like substance.

[@HaloDude557]

308 doesn’t drop instantly anymore than 223 does. You are radiating major boomer energy with your claims.

[@daxtynzollinger4925]

I wanna see a comparison between the 9mm, 40 sm&w, 45 acp, and 10mm.

[@jimclayron417]

2 grand per dummy

[@cubeflinger]

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[@ef6820]

Plz 9mm vs 45acp help put it to rest Flannel Daddy

[@BrokeWrench]

10mm seems to perform more like a mini 45/70. It would be interesting to compare the 2

[@AbysmalRapture]

@@ef6820 .45 will cause significantly more damage because of its size and will probably over penetrate no matter what taking a chunk of the dummy with it

[@toxified3937]

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