BEST AM5 board you SHOULDN'T BUY: ASROCK B650E TAICHI

[@jokingtiger]

Suggestion, start with the features of the product, then at the end of the review talk about your use case specific gripes/nitpicks. Most people will install the M.2 drives and never need to access them again until they fail. So not an issue. The big issue with the board that I can see is the total lack of pcie x1 slots that add in cards would need to use. Remember your use case (i.e. ease of test benching use) is not a normal one and should not factor in a review. I know reviewers forget that how they use these products is niche and has no place in a review viewed by people just looking to either confirm or steer away from buy a certain product.

[@CrazyTechLab]

You know you can use a 16x slot for 1x cards right? Unless you have a massive GPU it should work okay. I did think about the features - I kinda did the important ones at 2:17 , then repeated in more detail at the end because that's where the revelation is about the Taichi Lite - I didn't want to do that at the start because the rest of the video would have been pointless :) As for the M.2 - it's not an issue with this board because you have the PCIe 5 slot - can appreciate it's not much of an issue on other boards either for reasons you mentioned but on this board it's most definitely a non issue because you have that easily accessible third slot.

[@jokingtiger]

@@CrazyTechLab Yes I do, but what if you need more than one expansion card? Also, on most other boards the M.2 slots are blocked by the graphics card. My main point was to do the reviews, knowing that most people do not assemble and disassemble their computers often if ever. I am an IT tech and have firsthand experience with this. Just constructive criticism.

[@amurtigress_mobile365]

@@jokingtiger Not having a PCIe 1x slot is exactly the deal breaker for me. I am not a fan of onboard LAN chips, so I am using an Intel PCIe x4 server NIC in a x8 (x16) slot, and a soundcard here. Also, is it possible by now to disable the onboard NIC? ASRock has this weird thing of not letting people turn onboard LAN off. For whatever reason...

[@benjaminfrohns]

I would consider the lite version for a future build. Maybe another PCI-e 4x port couldn't hurt.

[@Daisudori]

go with the x670e pro rs instead for same money. 5nvme/6sata no lane sharing. U dont need a vrm on am5. Altho if u need PCI-e slots this is not the right board either :D

[@FutureOfGamesNL]

Fantastic board. If you don't need the PCI slots. You can't use the second slot after installing a aircooled GPU. The two nvme slots are more then enough if you buy big enough SSD's. For the rest its rock solid in my system! Can't say anything bad about it, after 3 weeks of use.

[@XxAtomic646xX]

@@Daisudori the lane sharing on the taichi is negligible bc with a 40 series gpu, you not gonna be able to access that 2nd pcie slot anyway so who cares if it gets disabled when using the 3rd m.2 slot.

[@Daisudori]

@@XxAtomic646xXNobody cares about pcie-e slots except for the gpu. Its still 5 nvme vs 3 and more sata

[@XxAtomic646xX]

@@Daisudori sata is useless. And none should need more than 3 m.2 slots.

[@hockeylife21]

The B650E Taichi (regular) is $270 at MicroCenter RN, Lite not in stock, thinking about going for this instead of the Nova X870 since it's never in stock..

[@abau2002]

I'm grabbing one today, figured it's one of the best boards I can get for sub 300 and should be able to handle anything I throw at it plus any upgrades I might want

[@sunsetsam33]

Just did a build with the Taichi Lite and zero complaints with a 7900x, 64GB RAM, Samsung 990 Pro, external Thunderbolt DAS. Recommended.

[@bobjohnson6131]

Why 64gb ram? I heard 32gb is all you need for gaming

[@sunsetsam33]

@@bobjohnson6131 I'm not a gamer. I do video and photo editing. I don't know if 64Gb is better than 32 for my use, but I figured it probably can't hurt and may be faster.

[@sunsetsam33]

@@bobjohnson6131 I'm not a gamer, I do video and photo editing. Not sure that 64GB is better than 32 for my needs, but I figured it might help and shouldn't hurt.

[@sms8717]

@@bobjohnson6131 maybe he does things other than gaming. 16 is just enough for gaming, 32 is giving you headroom, 64 is overkill and unnecessary (for gaming).

[@RafaelW8]

@@sms8717 32 is the new normal now, for gaming. 64 gives you headroom. Unfortunately, the times have shifted just recently.

[@Joek1808]

I just bought the B650E taichi. Why, it was in a 7800x3d bundle and only cost £15 more than the lite, i'm happy to pay that for the extra cooling (and the looks).

[@CrazyTechLab]

I agree. If it's a good deal it's still a fantastic board!

[@bobjohnson6131]

I see the b650 taichi priced at $169.99? Doesnt this mean its alnost priced same as the lite? So shouod i get this regular one prices at $169.99?

[@0x_Anakin]

I have this for a couple months on 2 gaming pcs. Best purchase I ever did...

[@Alalpog]

I've been looking to purchase one. I couldn't find it in my local stores and even in amazon. By any chance, where did you get yours?

[@Alalpog]

Where did you buy one? I've been meaning to purchase one myself but i couldn't find it anywhere. Even in amazon, no luck.

[@Wreckedftfoxy]

yea asrock is a beast man, i got regular b650 asrock motherboard and i think besides lack of pcie x1 lanes its a half decent motherboard

[@wizzawiztech5385]

That is one very good looking motherboard though I agree.

[@carlosclara4759]

The b650e Taichi Lite and the new Montech Sky Two GX, they will make a good pair for all black build.

[@sbranham86]

That’s a build I want to see. I have the taichi lite in a 216 case and have been looking for a smaller case

[@Mr.Irawo-0]

What screwdriver do you use

[@moraisgkm]

The price difference between the Taichi and the Lite is 50€ in my country, is it worth going for the normal Taichi in this case or it doesn’t matter?

[@jiaxingao9499]

Actually the taichi have back plates that matters. Also the thermal is better on the back and the chipset on taichi.

[@Thunderhawk51]

The battery seems to be hiding under the plate and there doesn't seem to be any screws. How accesible the battery is? Is it easy to change if needed without removing the motherboard or the shield?

[@senor_aleksei]

on my local store the difference between taichi and taichi light are 15-20$

[@SuperCymru]

Is there any info on whether an AS Rock X670E Taichi Lite is coming out ? Like the bling free approach.

[@CrazyTechLab]

@@SuperCymru You mean X870? Not yet.

[@rZoski12]

At this point where newegg has the Taichi cheaper than the lite version, would you just rec the regular version?

[@heartbroken8105]

I actually bought the taichi cause it was 30-40 euro cheaper than taichi lite

[@adamtajhassam9188]

my question is why did tachi gimp on the usb ports on the 670e model? btw i took the adviced ordered the basic 1 the only reason is if u like beautification on this board then the 200 dollars is nothing . but u dont get enough looks i guess...

[@AGRANT716]

Any truth to this board being larger than the standard atx?

[@K1-mf7un]

Yes, its eATX

[@yellowtoblerone]

Does the lite have an external clock gen like the other taichi's

[@sbranham86]

No

[@kamertonaudiophileplayer847]

Indeed, its a bit strange board.

[@GameslordXY]

Why would you need an extra port to troubleshoot with iGPU CPUs? Isn't BIOS enabling sufficient to use them regardless of mobo ports?🤔

[@CrazyTechLab]

Not sure what you mean - which extra port?

[@fivemillion]

Pricing in the UK tells a different story for the B650E Lite / non-Lite boards, with the Lite being the more expensive option.

[@CrazyTechLab]

It does now but two months ago the Lite was cheaper.

[@Berkelll]

Is MSI B650 Tomahawk good? Anyeone with expierence on it? Or should i pay a bit more and go for ASRock B650E PG Riptide?

[@MaliciousGaming]

Go for riptide brother

[@el.G.]

No to Tomahawk ! It has good vram 14.80 but no pci gen 5 and m2 gen 5. Asrock B650 steel legend has 14,80 vram has pci gen 5 and m2 gen 5 Asrock B650E steel legend has 16,60 vram, pcie gen 5 and m2 gen 5 Asrock pg riptide has 14,60 vram, pcie gen 5 and m2 gen 5 All 3 are good + or - But if u ask me the B650 steel legend is cheaper and better than riptide

[@MaliciousGaming]

@el.G. yeah riptide is more future proof. Although tomahawk is a classic in the community and very reliable. It doesn't have the Gen 5

[@FutureOfGamesNL]

I'm rocking the Taichi Light, it's amazing. Rocking a 7800x3d, 64Gigs, 5TB storage. The board is built so well, just looking a bit less pretty then the normal one. A few less options. For me to pay 200euro's more... Was and is not worth it.

[@CrazyTechLab]

I completely agree.

[@CrazyTechLab]

What storage do you have? Is a PCIe 5 M.2 SSD a consideration or do you view them as too expensive?

[@FutureOfGamesNL]

@@CrazyTechLab I bought a 1TB 990 Pro, plus a Lexar 4TB NM790. Before this I had a old SSD. So the speed doubled/trippled, maybe even 4-5 quicker right now. This difference I noticed for sure. But the difference between 7,500MB/s or 10-12.000MB/s a second.. How often am I copying documents or files from one place to another. Never! My internet is "only" 1Gbit/s. Downloading + copying to the disk is like 5% usage right now. The 990Pro was the more expensive drive, 120 euros. A Gen5 one is costing 170. The 4TB one costed me 230euro, a gen5 is going for around 550euros. So that's a big no for me. Save up, but a better CPU/GPU up the ram even.

[@kamm82606mad]

I have the taichi lite also and absolutely agree that for the price it's the best option, and honestly for what you get i personally thought it was the best option out of any other manufacturer as well.

[@johnfirst3986]

hi sir what GPU are you using with this set up? im planning to copy your build since i will only upgrade for the next 10years again

[@thomasenright5282]

I am looking to purchase a Motherboard that will support a Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU, but it must have at least 4 Nvme SSD Ports, which should be able to support Gen4 Nvme SSD without comprising the GPU port down from 16 to 8. I want to be able to keep it at 16. So I like to ask do you know any motherboard that you would advise me to get for this, I don't mind the price so much, I just don't want to use any HDD in this new build.

[@amurtigress_mobile365]

I have the MSI B650 Gaming Edge Wifi. There is no SLI-kind of lane switching here, even with the x4 network card in the lower x16 slot. I suspect B650 boards don't do that anyway, because the four lanes on the x16 slot come from the chipset, not the CPU

[@amurtigress_mobile365]

Also I see no multiplexers on my board either. All's perfect

[@thomasenright5282]

@@amurtigress_mobile365 There is only room for 3 slots of Nvme SSD on this motherboard, I am looking for one with room for 4 slots of Nvme SSD where I can use Gen 4 in it even if it states Gen 5

[@AdityaKumar-rq7mk]

I have a question, could I plug in two 3090s in the two PCIe slots ? The condition being that both of the cards would be 3 slots thick. Is there a better suited motherboard where I could do this ?

[@slumpplum2376]

the gen 5 slot is backwards compatible with gen 4? so I can run 3 gen 4 nvme?

[@CrazyTechLab]

Correct!

[@johnvamvo5438]

should i buy an ssd that comes with a heat sink or will the heat sink on this mobo be enough. will a ssd heatsink even fit since this board has one built in. new to pc building and ssd heat sinks is something im not knowledgable in yet.

[@CrazyTechLab]

If you can get one without a heatsink and use the motherboard one. They're usually more effective and the SSD will be cheaper

[@johnvamvo5438]

@@CrazyTechLab just realized I have the lite version of this board. I'm not sure if the lite has a heatsink or not.

[@Raider8784]

​@@johnvamvo5438it does. It's in the same spot as this one.

[@kydyrov]

anybody got this mb with fractal torrent compact? did it fit inside?

[@my735]

I bought it after watching this

[@myroslav6873]

X670E Taichi is the heaviest motherboard I've ever held. It's so big and thick and just feels so well built and premium. Got it used but in perfect working condition for 285$. Intel WLAN instead of Mediatek which most other AM5 boards use is so much more reliable and gets better signal. Clear CMOS button is great for playing with memory when you need it, having power/reset on the board is also super handy for initial testing. M.2 ports don't share bandwidth with anything so you can run all 4 NVME at rated speed. On-board audio is the best on any motherboard. 2x USB4 which are also capable of display out. God I love this board. B650E lite offers most of the features and can be found new around or under 250$, so that's a super solid option as well.

[@JuliussCesarr]

better than asus x670 hero?

[@IamMxfia]

@@JuliussCesarr the ASRock x670E Taichi | Taichi Carrara Boards are way better compared to the Hero Boards from Asus, better VRM, better on board audio ,better ethernet/wifi chip

[@ostravia]

If you put a 4090 in and use the other slot it drops its lanes. Shame. Even if it a 4x

[@silfrido1768]

meh…. You didn’t talk about memory overclocking…..

[@sebastiandej5514]

dislike, clickbait name

[@StephLeFermier]

"As well" again and again, really annoying 😞😞

[@thedemonlord8685]

ECLK, ECLK, ECLK!!!! DOES THE TAICHI LITE HAVE AN ECLK!!!!

[@myroslav6873]

yes, it does

[@sbranham86]

@@myroslav6873where? I haven’t seen it on my lite model

[@hirmor666]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@michal1693]

1 video out (and its hdmi), no thunderbolt or usb4 header, atx in 2024. I take my B650M-HDV/M.2 over this any day. 3/10

[@michal1693]

@Zolacee - what? im correct in everything

[@romaboo6218]

Theres USB4 and thunderbolt right there

[@michal1693]

@@romaboo6218 - there is build in controller, you cant chose which video to send, which is inferior to stand alone

[@tlv8555]

....it has usb 4 & why are you even using one video out on your motherboard. Plug your monitors into your GPU.

[@MT-su2lq]

You are wrong but not complete - you just did not get the real difference here. This is just one level higher as your board - which is a fine board but for a different, lower configuration. Which is absolute ok - why you should pay money for something you do not use or implement? Read the comment before yours - this is a board for people installing 32-64g memory in and for sure a high end gfx card for 500 bucks on the low end. If you want/need 64g memory you do want high specs on your motherboard. This board has a fine mix of current specs and high end specs. Good example is the one PCIe 4.0x16 and one PCIe 5.0x16. I think is will build me now a 7800x3d rack with it, including a 4070 Ti i had the chance ot get for low from a friend. The idea is that i can then perhaps in 3 years update this build with a 9950x3d or something like it. The board can run memory up to 7600 when i read it right, so i can even upgrade memory then. The real deal for me are the M.2 options. There are some crazy high end SSD for that, with read/write specs from 10k to 15k. They are expensive atm but in 2-3 years that will be the standard. I know that this work because i did the same with my 2 racks before. I usually run them up to 8-10 years. And they perform! I write this on my last build. Its a 6700k with as ASrock Z1 80 I7 Fatal1ty board and a simple 1070. I still can run most games with somewhat lowered settings. What is now outdated is the gfx card of course, the 6700k is still a beast single core but outdated in terms of cores and memory cache. And i hit the PCI & M.2 limits some years ago. I build that thing 2016! The point is this: Yes, you spend a bit more with racks build around this kind of boards. But not serious more. And if you select the hardware around it right you get a system which can be upgraded for usually at last 5 years and will hold the line for some years more. In the end it pays out, thats just my experience. More money spend usually do not give you any edge beside the better performance which is usually only noticable when you measure it.