What makes X670E "EXTREME"? AM5 Chipsets Explained (featuring Aorus!)

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Most tech channels release variations of the same content on launch day. It's nice to see coverage of an equally important aspect of a build. Looking forward to the next video!

[@YuniorGamboa]

Just the video I was looking for. Thanks Paul

[@demontekdigital]

Not sure if they did it this time around, but one thing I always wish for with the lower end boards is a dedicated on-board power button, and the Dr D digital readouts. The higher end boards are the ones that always seem to get those extra features when I feel like they should be standard on all boards. I'm not complaining at all because I realize those features add to the cost, but it's just something I've always wanted to see. I always see them, and am like, "Man I want one of those fancy power buttons, and pretty number thingies!" Lol.

[@albal156]

The Post codes are something I wish was on more lower end boards tbh or at least the read out LEDs if it adds too much to cost. Power buttons are rally only good for test benches or a first power up and initial POST outside the case it easily done with a screw driver and shorting the front panel connectors together. If something ever goes wrong (and it has, I had some issues when I powered on my PC for the first time and I had recent issues with the CMOS battery too which died and caused my PC to blue screen and forget the time and date) POSt code displays are definitely good to have.

[@NINJAMONACO]

Actually I would like to see this as an "external" option, like a small daughter card you could plug on a standardized plug on any motherboard... One can dream

[@demontekdigital]

@@pl0dman925 I watched that video, and yeah that's going to be incredibly frustrating, and terror inducing for people trying to do any sort of problem diagnosing that requires several power shut-offs. Even doing something as simple as a drive swap, or addition could cause nightmares, lol. "All I did was swap out the drive, WTF, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO M....oh nvm, there it goes." LMAO.

[@demontekdigital]

@@NINJAMONACO Something that could potentially be plugged into a smaller PCIe like those wifi cards would be cool, but I have no idea where it would get the info from.

[@demontekdigital]

@@albal156 For sure. POST codes are way more important than an on-board pwr button. The pwr button would be just for ease of use for me. I kinda get a little wigged out using the screwdriver method because I feel like it's something you're not supposed to do even though it's safe, and been done millions of times.

[@jeremyf1901]

I can’t even imagine how excited I would be getting a box like that sent to me. I actually would probably start crying. Thank you for the benchmark break, Paul! I with others were showcasing other computer parts like this.

[@kieranb7747]

why would you start crying.. lol

[@b4ds33d]

How sadly materialistic are you my guy??? Oof.

[@gigabit9823]

Sad life, LOL

[@lilqkb5746]

Ya'll need to chill. Dude made a slight exaggeration and you wanna drag him. Relax

[@LMacNeill]

Thanks for that explanation about the different chipset options -- definitely answered some questions that I had. Much appreciated!

[@Mcleody9]

Would love to see a "budget build" when Octobers Motherboards come out, and highlight any areas where budget builders may want to consider a step up on the cpu or motherboard AM5 ladder?

[@Matt561]

Problem is the price of ddr5

[@spankbuda7466]

The cheapest "budget" build is going to start you at $1000+

[@kboussa]

If you like green pcb... sure.😆

[@TheHrb1234]

There is no "budget build" , they are milking it before the competition comes out like always.

[@Curiefeld]

Budget and midrange builds will probably become doable in early to mid 2023.

[@leviathanpriim3951]

If you happen to get a motherboard without a clear cmos button, but at least the 2 pin jumper, depending on what case you chose you can plug the case's reset button 2 pin header onto the 2 pin clear cmos jumper should you have a no post issue of perhaps an overclock setting that borked. Free tech tip to those new to bild process.

[@zeus.edwards2662]

really loving how we got to see the 3 side by side for comparison, really liking there design of the extreme !!!

[@steverussell7005]

Thank you! For someone who replaced a ten year old computer with a prebuilt during the gpu shortage this is very helpful for when I plan on upgrading

[@itsdeonlol]

Thank you Paul & Gigabyte for this!

[@karthik11512]

The color grading and lighting is really good on your videos.

[@13thzephyr]

Thank you Paul for pointing out the longer support for AM5 and in essence future-proofed for at least 3 years.

[@tarkz7763]

For some future gigabyte sponsored content I’d love to see a super high end, full gigabyte AORUS PC build. It would be awesome to see a multi video series. I’d love to see a regular PC review type video of it as well as a full “beginners guide 2022” style video where you build it and another 3rd video where you go through the installation of software that you’ve done before. A 4th video for the series I think could be really great would be going through and tuning/over locking the system for beginners. Of all the creators out there in the PC world, you’re the one I always turn to when I need a no nonsense, easy to understand guide on anything for my PC and you’ve helped me go from complete PC beginner last year to at least semi competent. Keep up the amazing work, you’re always incredibly appreciated

[@josephnorris4095]

You know you are a computer hardware enthusiast when you get excited just seeing these boards, let alone the description of them. 😁

[@brodriguez11000]

For when the box it comes in is bigger than the assembled computer.

[@WarHawk-]

Guilty as charged 😂

[@akhileshkshirsagar2712]

Extremely awesome video as always Paul!! I extremely loved watching it on my PC powered by the ASRock B550 Extreme4 motherboard. 😄

[@aephix73]

With what they are charging for the new generation of motherboards, they should all come in that box. I feel that all the companies are trying to continue the inflated prices from the pandemic. I was lucky enough to have built a system just before the pandemic, and so I hope to ride out a few generations for perhaps the AM6 socket.

[@onepoh4680]

$999 for the top of the line is way too much

[@buttergolem8584]

Remember 50$ for agood B350 AM4 board. Those were the times.

[@nemesis851_]

Appreciate your choice of topic to cover today, Paul

[@Kapono5150]

Currently building my AM5 system. Went with 7600X and Power Color Red Devil 6950 XT

[@TheSupermauro30]

nice! I'm very happy to see that companies haven't forgotten about you, congrats

[@plonk420]

thanks again for including the VRM powerstage (theoretical lol) amps!

[@-opus]

0:10 youtube is flooded with benchmarks comparing the latest gen of AMD to the previous gen of AMD and intel, the benchmarks will be of much more interest once intel 13th gen launches. Thank you for some focus on the mobos!

[@zEr0ic3Gaming]

I had to leave a like, man the amount lf effort, craft, and pride they took to this gift crate is surreal. I'm an Asus Strix fan myself, they are my ride and die. But my god, Gigabyte is always my runner up. They will always be my next runner up to recommendations. Aorus is just such a classy, always well performed brand. I stand by Asus but man oh man, Gigabyte Aorus is something incredible too.

[@Streetysuperduper]

Gift crate = scam any “crate” for that matter.

[@pilotstiles]

If I was planning on upgrading to AM5 one of those boards would be the one I would choose. Nice breakdown.

[@QuentinStephens]

Looks like you've a lot of work ahead of you; I'm looking forward to seeing the results. You touched on backplates and sort-of dismissed them. They are useful for out of case builds, like when you test your CPU and GPU on top of the motherboard box, as they add rigidity. I used to be a big fan of USB ports directly on the PC but I've changed my mind. I plug my devices into USB hubs. I am disappointed in the lack of 10 Gb ethernet.

[@matt-g-recovers]

Best hardware channel still by a mile Paul. Thanks brotha

[@finalmage6]

That's quite a large box...what do you do with all those special edition launch boxes? They can't all end up in your back ground 🙂

[@Deathscythe91]

they probably want it back lol

[@finalmage6]

@@Deathscythe91 Maybe...I know those awesome Ryzen launch boxes stayed in the sets of many a tech tuber for years though! Those things were pretty sweet.

[@poeticsilence047]

@@finalmage6 i actually have one. AMD sold them. It also came with a shirt, jacket and hat. Wish more companies did that instead of giving them to reviewers. At least average people would wear the swag.

[@lishengshun2873]

That's where all the corpses go.

[@Hobbes4ever]

@@Deathscythe91 especially that box which probably cost more than any of their mobos

[@AaronAverett]

That Hardigg case they shipped all this stuff in is super sick.

[@geoDunkleAura]

I like that all PCIe slots are x16 size even when they are not electrically x16 wired.

[@black_mass5177]

Although much later, as the B series chips launch ,I was lot but this vid helped!! What foresight!! Thanks so much

[@WonderingTraveller0]

Exactly what I was looking for thanks for the content 👍

[@whatthedeuce47d68]

Cheers for the informative content, I've put a 670E in my Amazon basket...waiting to the end of the month..

[@ElladanKenet]

I'm really curious to see the comparisons between the regular X670 and the B650 Extreme.

[@pcbuilderlover4271]

Wow Gigabyte has come a long way. Those products are sure nice.

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Yay!! Finally a mother board video! Thank you Paul for scratching that itch for me. I have been wondering how these MBs are laid out. Video idea: Put a 7600X in the X670E board and see if it is worth the extra money, depending on the usage the person wants. Also, does a MB backplate help transfer heat to the MB tray in the case? Let's find out.

[@Otawakun]

the backplate does absorb some heat from the back of the VRMs via a thermal pad between but it doesn't do a good job of dissipating it. It's more of an structural purpose and protection of the smd components from the back from being damaged rather than absorbing heat.

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

@@Otawakun ah. So because of the size of the board it is used to keep the PCB layers from splitting. I got ya. Thank you for that. I wonder if you replace that back support plate or place thermal pads on it where it touches the MB tray in the case, then somehow actively cool it, would it affect VRM temperatures?

[@Zordonzig]

I think it should also be pointed out the spacing between the GPU PCIE slot and the others at the bottom. AORUS left room to fit your 4 SLOT GPUs and maybe an extra USB card or something. Also for an all AORUS build/giveaway I'd love to see maybe a 7900X with the Master mobo and an AORUS RX 7900XT when it launches. I like everything (minus the GPU) to be one step below the maximum so Paul can keep all the best parts for future testing or personal use and I just like the symmetry of the CPU/GPU names.

[@raytraced1415]

That's a great idea, I would also like to see that giveaway. 🙆‍♂

[@MistyKathrine]

A build giveaway would always been fun. You have that extreme board and that 7950x and the DDR5 6000 32CL Kit and the PSU with the 12VHPWR, and a 7000 SSD. All you need is a nice case and a GPU and you could build a really nice PC that would make someone very happy.

[@khyron6]

Thanks Paul you Rock!

[@ebeirne1]

Lucky boy... Please compare the like-for-like between the extreme motherboard to the base model motherboard with the same components.

[@jasonjavelin]

That press kit is so cool!

[@dreamin47_]

Thanks Paul this was right on time, just purchased a 7950 and the video makes choosing a motherboard alot easier.

[@devonmoreau]

Appreciate this video very much, thank you!

[@jensonee]

my first job with computers in 1981, was with a 64Kbyte dram, zilog 8bit cpu. floppies were one sided 120Kbyte floppies and hard disks were 5 megabyte boxes. it is 40 years, 40 years!! but wow things have changed.

[@TheLoganRocha]

The boards are feature-packed! Hopefully features like the easy latch continue to trickle down into the more affordable lineups.

[@-opus]

as long as they are reliable

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice - now we need a review of the performance of the AM5 platform

[@SixDasher]

The pcie5x16 lots share lanes with the M.2 slots, so if you install the M.2s you go from x16 to x8. Nice little fine print they got there.

[@sojirou]

Was really excited to get the Aorus Xtreme with the 7950x until I read the specs that you can only use 2 NVMe drives before it turns the GPU PCIe slot into an 8x. The main competition from Asus and MSI support at least 3-4 before affecting the GPU slot. It's such a poor design choice by Gigabyte to do this on a high end board.

[@mra.cortez3553]

Is this really a problem? We are talking about PCIE Gen 5 x8 which is as fast as PCIE gen 4 @16 (and on PCIE 4 boards 8X is as fast as PCIE 3 @16 as well)

[@TheHighborn]

dude it's Gigabyte. ofc it's shit

[@nktslp3650]

8x at 5.0 speed is still 2 times what is necessary for a 3090Ti. There is absolutely no way it will be a bottleneck for anything in your system.

[@sojirou]

@@mra.cortez3553 Bandwidth wise you're right but when you slot a PCIe Gen 4 card, you'll effectively run at Gen 4 x8 (Gen 3 x16). The RTX 4090 is still a Gen 4 card and with DirectStorage games on the horizon, we might see a bigger impact of that limited bandwidth. Now if the 7900XT comes with PCIe 5 then this won't even be an issue.

[@enegizedadam]

​@@TheHighborn have you ever used a gigabyte product

[@rudypieplenbosch6752]

definitely great looking products from Gigabyte, would not mind receiving such a box :)

[@TheGuidedislamicBoy]

Hey paul, I love your videos, please tell me Can i keep ryzen 9 in x650 ??

[@teddyoflove5897]

Was building with msi tomahawk boards since I started using ryzen when it was first launched. Giving Gigabyte a try now, investigated and found x670 gaming ax motherboard offers pretty much best bang for your money and have all that you really need with top of the line power delivery and good audio. Got it for 300euro and also got 64gb 6000mhz cl30 DDR5 RAM to go with it for 360euro (one year ago ddr4 3600 cl14 32gb kit was same price, crazy...). Now just waiting to order 7950x3d on Tuesday.

[@19kruger99]

How is your system performing? I'm also looking at getting the Gigabyte x670 gaming board with a 7700x.

[@teddyoflove5897]

@@19kruger99 it performs very well. Enabled simple pbo and don't have any issues. System boots faster than my AM4 system did too gigabyte did great job. Only once a week randomly it decides to retrain memory timing and it takes about 1min to boot. Otherwise all perfect so far.

[@teddyoflove5897]

Bios is a bit laggy tho if thats problem for you might be hard to accept. Bit it has a lot of customization in bios amd works well, so not an issue to me personally

[@SamanthaVimes177]

Any chance we'll get Eco mode coverage next time you want a break?

[@mikeoleksa]

Thank you for choosing to do something else, Paul! Gigabyte is what I'm considering this time around from my usual Asus, so that choice is bonus for me too.

[@pdamasco]

I'm probably in the small minority of users that is annoyed that they are removing the ability for 5.1 and 7.1 surround on their boards. I had the 370 Master and X570 Master but I will be getting something else when I upgrade to Zen 5 because I actually utilize the Audio I/O completely.

[@Oulundronekuvaus]

I have been thinking that I buy 7.1 sound card so that would fix that issue, am I right?

[@pdamasco]

@@Oulundronekuvaus Yep, it just costs more. I have nice outboard gear that is all USB for headphones and monitor speakers but I have a 7.1 surround set from years back for gaming during the day. I checked in the manual for this board and apparently you can configure the front panel audio jacks to act as side, surround, and sub outputs but they are going to have a horrible noise floor if you do that.

[@mrbill_oh_no]

Love this. We need to see the ALL AORUS BUILD!

[@GriotDNB]

Exactly the info I was looking for!

[@JahonCross]

Just get a b650 save your money, my dude 😊

[@someguy-somehow]

Motherboards and platform cost are no longer an afterthought, it is in fact driving my choice of which chip to purchase. Turning the old paradigm of chip then motherboard then ram almost on it's head.

[@jd31068]

Very well done guys!

[@R3TR0ACTIV]

honestly i know some people have had issues with gigabyte products in the past but i am still rocking a Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI and i have had 0 issues with it. i love that they did this show case as me and my partner are looking at building next year 2 new pcs. one top of the line for me and one best bang for buck for her. and honestly im unsure of what to go with amd or intel so it will probably come down to the features on the mobos for where i go.

[@mat940]

Wow, super useful rundown.

[@exceededcircle1]

Would love to see an all aorus build in the future, I love my aorus master 3070.

[@kasper_429]

Can't wait for the coverage of the new B650 boards when they come out...tomorrow? Lol. Also a build video using all the Aorus stuff that they gave you would be sick!

[@thealien_ali3382]

Got my first ryzen build, I always went with intel. But when I saw how well AMD supported am4 and how well they performed in gaming, I went with a 7900x. I was so close in buying a 13th gen but due to the CPUs being the last on the z790/x690 chipset I went with AMD. Lisa sue stated that AM5 will be supported beyond 2025

[@jamesschmidt3437]

i know your comment is a year old already, but just the other day it was announced that AM5 will be supported until at least 2026. This includes their next generation of CPU's, possibly 2 new generations possibly. If I had the link to the article, I'd link it, but sadly I don't :/

[@carlkidd752]

I have an Aorus Master X570--5800X and just game so I have no need to upgrade, but seeing the new shinies is fun. It's looking like building an AM5 or Intel gen13 PC will be substantially more money than AM4 or Intel gen12 (both DDR4). MAYBE the X3D will have so much uplift paired with a new GPU, many will be tempted to part with thousands.

[@michaelcox122]

Great video Thanks for the detailed info.

[@a.j.haverkamp4023]

Looks like the motherboard designers already took the 4 slot GPUs into account by looking at the placement of the PCIE slots. And the X570 chipset fan is no longer required on the X670 motherboards.

[@gmt1]

Good to see PCIe 4.0 wasn't dropped. Makes me believe their upcoming PCIe 5.0 GPUs won't perform much worse using 4.0. Even in the case of RX 6000 only the lower end GPUs with less lanes performed slightly worse using 3.0.

[@TheSlickmicks]

Yay! I have been wanting to see the motherboards. Thank you!!! And Aorus is my favorite. Perfect.

[@infin1ty850]

I basically did a full upgrade earlier this year and I can't believe I'm about to upgrade again. I still haven't even given my hand-me-down parts to my brother.

[@pavel3778]

I need to know a main difference between aorus master and aorus xtreme one ? Because they look almost same but the price is a huge different with same marked "E".

[@popthiccle1158]

will I be able to use a pcie 4.0 vertical gpu mount with a 4090 on these boards?

[@informative_walrus]

Oooohh that is a sexy board, extremex2. I thought for sure with that total care package size there was a giveaway at the end. I love my aorus x570 itx board. They do a great job of thinking about the build process and the little quality of life improvements.

[@grevedanko]

Looking forward to your budget build with the new AM5 system!

[@LoneJoe_hadley]

I have an X670 aorus elite ax coming Friday. they lost the little fans on the MB from last gen. that must have been a baaaaad idea, I got it and the bios wont update. has anyone tried to update a bios. on the X670 AE?

[@DDT2005]

Thank for inserting a sponsor that is actually related to the Title, unlike yesterday.

[@danieljayasiri7739]

Hey Paul, could you ask them to change their naming criteria for these boards…it’s getting a little too “extreme”!

[@Dang_Jim]

I just built an AMD Ryzen 9-7950x with a Gigabytes X670 Aorus Elite. It's been awesome

[@J-J-TL]

Very nice man!

[@KaedeAnimation]

Except $499 is too much that’s the price of Budget gaming pc

[@Dang_Jim]

@@KaedeAnimation Ryzen 9 and X670 aren't designed with budget in mind. For budget, you could do B650 and a Ryzen 5 7000 series CPU once the AM5 prices come down a little bit. I spent $2500 on just my PC alone

[@dimmacommunication]

@@Dang_Jim Why that mobo specifically ?

[@Dang_Jim]

@@dimmacommunication It had decent reviews, had all the I/O I wanted and was really the only thing in stock, ready to ship.

[@thomasmichaelschwarz9741]

oh boy! Am I tempted!!! Just fear the anxiety caused by the expectation of countless bugs to overcome like when I did my first Ryzen build....but this generation is a beast!

[@JF42506]

Paul you always make such rad content... thank you

[@DMan-ud6bt]

Thanks for the video. Of course, I like your giveaway build video idea. Maybe an all Xtreme edition with their top-tier components?

[@SuperDaddyruss]

Well hell glad I found this... I had already ordered x670e master ax a 7600x and some 6000 cl 30. And now.... I'm broke but I know what to expect

[@Kelekona_808]

Oil slick + RGB Combo on the extreme board. I'm waiting for the Disco Ball + RGB Combo at this point...although G.Skill kind of already did it with the royal series of Trident Z ;) DIMMS.

[@OPTERON_PRIME]

Thanks Paul!

[@stencetheboss]

with the motherboard VRM and heatsinks so tall on the premium boards it seems like air cooling tower compatibility would be super impacted

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

We need a test build to compare air and aio. Three test builds of course, which might help clarify the differences between the boards in practice. But, don't listen to me, I am waiting for B650. And Aorus will now be on the list. Well done, Gigabyte.

[@lavavex]

Sitting outside micro center right now! Let’s go!🎉

[@GSP-76]

I got the Asus Crosshair Extreme boards and noticed they include a fan controller and ARGB gen 2 controller. With gen 2 you will get individual lighting capability to all devices connected to the ports.

[@tbrayden3694]

Aorus Master has been a decent line of mobos hardware wise. Gigabyte needs to up their game when it comes to their BIOS support though. Looks like MSRP of the Aorus Master X670E is $360.

[@scott6885]

$499 at Microcenter. Too much for the master in my opinion.

[@tbrayden3694]

@@scott6885 Definitely too much! Looks like the prices released to the press 4 months ago have been increased big time. Seems like anyone and everyone nowadays is trying to use the “inflation” excuse to price gouge.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

I agree, have had many bios issues with gigabyte boards that are unresolved.

[@har_mar1141]

Great video, im currently buying bits for my new build, the mobo situation is expensive and confusing as they are all similar prices as of today

[@MFFM]

love gigabyte this gen, thinking about building everything from gigabyte this time around

[@TheSoldier718]

Thanks for doing something different and nice unboxing the master and extreme look almost the same

[@PindleofKujata]

Looking forward to tracking the prices of new parts, because adopting a new platform is mad expensive right now.

[@DynamicAFK]

Yup is definitely is but for £450 it's jto hafl bad considering the top end x570 boards are basically the sms price with almost half the usbs and way less powerful it isn't half bad

[@Debate_everything]

ill be grabbing the Master board myself at some point.. waiting for the x3D CPU 1st

[@watchthe1369]

Build an "Upgrade into awesome" system. One that will boot and play games, but barely. Then gradually expand it. Kind of like taking a V4 Mustang and upgrading into V-* turbocharged awesomeness. What do you have to buy upfront to give the chassis and bones to build the awesomeness when you have an Allowance style budget.

[@clanpsi]

Does the E not stand for Extreme? So the one board is essentially named X670 Extreme Xtreme.

[@drewdane40]

I'm looking forward to the next generation of AM5 motherboards. Then I'll be able to build an X770 with a 7700X and a 7700XT. Add in a 700W PSU and 7 TB of storage in a Corsair 7000D with 7 fans, and you'll have a pretty lucky machine.

[@-opus]

Those huge SSD heatsinks are freakishly close to the GPU slot 🥴

[@Standard.Candle]

I bought an x570 Master back when the 3900x came out, I since upgraded to a 5950x and it overclocks like a !@#$ing champion. I can get 4.7 all-core on 1.318vcore stable. There were some issues with USB early on if you have 20+ usb devices like me, but that was fixed with a BIOS update. I think it was an AGESA problem. I'll probably get another Master when I upgrade to one of the 3D cache Zen 4 chips.

[@pdarrell]

Thank you for a different video than everyone else is doing. I enjoyed looking at the Gigabyte x670 lineup. I purchased an Asrock x670E Steel Legend with a Ryzen 7950x today and built a new computer. Had some problems with installing an OS. Had to install the latest version of Windows. I wanted VMware ESXi for virtualization of those cores. But I will have to Hyper-v instead. AMD and compatibility is always an issue. But I am happy with the purchase and how the computer turned out.

[@ayliniemi]

Is there any way to game on more cores than 8?

[@johncurtis920]

Nice boards. More and more they could double as toaster ovens, couldn't they? Something a case manufacturer might want to consider. Not just arrangements for the motherboard, external ports and such, but maybe a couple of slots to toast bagels and the like. Hey...it could work!? Talk about....extreme? 😏

[@darknubent]

Will water-cooling need to be done in these builds?

[@andersjjensen]

No. AMD has been very clear about this. The CPU will go to 95C no matter what cooling you throw at it, unless you go so far over board (exotic cooling) that you max out the motherboard VRM. So if you just want 95% the performance shown in the day-one reviews, but at 75% the power draw, go with a standard tower cooler.

[@jamievarni1530]

Very valuable video. Thank you.

[@Nobe_Oddy]

Giveaway are always a GREAT idea, I would think. But I KNOW I PERSONALLY would LOVE to see a CUSTOM BUILD with that EXTREME Mobo that shows off all of it's glamour and hype that is USUALLY hidden by a BIG 'OL CHUNGUS OF A GPU!!! Maybe us3e a long riser cable and possibly have the GPU a bit lower so we can see the Mobo in al it's glory.... I don't think I've ever seen a case with a 'lower' "shelf" that covers the PSU, so maybe you could get a case that extravagant and OPEN (gotta think of the HEAT and AIR FLOW "First and FOREMOST" with a 7950X... and there are a TON of UNIQUE CASES out there... And try to tie it ALL together.... Can you do a CUSTOM WATER COOLING LOOP???? I think you could make ONE HECK OF A MACHINE with those BEAUTIFUL WORKS OF ART/TECH!!!! I BELIEVE IN YOU PAUL!!!!