Best AR-15 Muzzle brake/ Comp test Apollo Max, Hypertap, Hollywood, Coda Dragon-Educational Purposes

[@__-pl3jg]

I'd love to see results for a Blackout Defense Keymo Hybrid.

[@StonerCNC]

If you have one and want to loan it to us we would do a quick test. From a design standpoint I would guess it is going to act somewhere in between a flash hider (no recoil reduction) and a low performance brake (less than 50% reduction). It does have some baffles so it will provide some reduction but it only has one side port and not a lot of area to push on. My guess would be 20-30% reduction. They are advertising it as a flash hider, a flash hider has zero recoil reduction.

[@__-pl3jg]

​@@StonerCNC- Sure. How do I contact you for location details?

[@TraumaRider]

This video is perfect. I'm actually in the process of building my first AR and wanted a great muzzle brake.

[@jamesdelong6401]

Have you looked up the Nero muzzle break from Walker Defense Research?

[@TraumaRider]

I did look into it, however I didn't like the way it looked. I prefer the streamlined sleek look.

[@JoshRash]

Thank you sir! I've been looking for a side by side analysis of different brakes with data for a while now! Well done!

[@StonerCNC]

Glad it was helpful. We are going to do a 9mm pcc test in the near future stay posted for that.

[@PrayerWarriorPh]

is the silencerco asr and surefire included in this review as well? I wish they were.

[@StonerCNC]

They are not included based on the 3 port design of those brakes they would perform similar to the Coda Fury or Lantac dragon

[@muaythaimanny]

Great video. Just what I was looking for.

[@patrickbradford6223]

I would love to see a two tiered test. The quality of a brake is hard to measure since it's a lot of preference. Personally I would rather have a brake that removes the muzzle RISE rather than the recoil remitted. If the dot doesn't move up... I am not waiting on the muzzle to settle on a hammered pair if the dot is still in the target area I want to hit.

[@StonerCNC]

I agree with what you’re saying. My plan is to do a second test showing muzzle return. The best I have come up with is shooting some hammered double pairs on paper to see how the impact moves. This is what was done on the initial development of the Stoner CNC brake. We found that a balanced brake with our baffle design produced the best return to center. Top ports actually drove the gun down and was less controllable. Other brakes we tested showed similar results. This is contrary to some popular opinions on the matter. I may do some long range double pairs also. If you have suggestions on the testing I will consider them.

[@kreazyd]

I started switching to V Seven Titanium muzzle devices. Great price and great products.

[@brianwoodcox9878]

You can get the Dragon on sale for like $100, and it’s easily the best looking of these. Plus it’s compatible with their BMD so I don’t make any enemies at the indoor range.

[@zorazr192]

New to the channel, great video.

[@Genebaket]

Nice comparison thank you. Would you consider doing the comparison test again but this time have a noise metering device placed at the butt stock to measuring sound also?

[@StonerCNC]

I tried to measure the sound with a sound meter near the gun during testing. However, the meter's reading varied very little from Comp to comp. I think the this is due to 2 things. 1 the sound change was only a couple milli seconds and 2 it may have been above the meters sound range as the highest reading I got was 119.7DB. The top 3 brake have the most noise/concussion and produced the best results recoil reduction on and off the sled. We are going to make another video in the near future I will try to include some sort of noise rating in that video. Thanks for your comments

[@Tittyrub]

Thanks so much for this video. It helpe me decide which brake to purchase. Ended up getting the Hollywood brake. Put it on my Saint Victor 5.56 with 16” barrel. The concussion to the shooter is on the extreme side, just about knocks my hat off. Was wondering if you experienced the same amount of shooter blowback. Thank you :)

[@StonerCNC]

The concussion on the top 3 brakes are very and similar and aggressive. I should have mentioned that in the video. I am making a second video in month to address some of the items I missed.

[@jamesdelong6401]

Have you all had a chance to look over and test out the Nero muzzle break from Walker Defense Research yet? I'm trying to get as much idea's and thoughts on a muzzle break for competition use for my AR-15.

[@ryanpatton5937]

If you guys really want to cut down on recoil check out the HU-DU MUZZLE BREAK made by the great guys at SOUTHERN TOOL AND PRECISION in maryville Tennessee. There are videos showing a man shooting a 300 min mag off his chin

[@superman18videos87]

I got an apollo max, but the gases and dirt doesn’t let me shoot rapidly I have to wait to everything settle then take my other shot, the stoner hollywood would do the same?

[@StonerCNC]

The Apollo Max has ports that are angled further back at the shooter than any other brake. They are approximately 50 degrees rearward facing on the Apollo Max. The Stoner CNC Hollywood and most other high performance brakes are closer to 40 degrees to reduce some the concern you are talking about. We talk about it in the second shootout some. See the attached link kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKXUpp2vfcaeibcsi=o74--k8TzWvs2Itb I don't have problem shooting the Stoner CNC as fast as can pull the trigger. However, if you are are running a barrel shorter than 16" it might be more noticeable.

[@cognition26]

Could you do the hiperfire hypercomp?

[@StonerCNC]

Maybe in the future. I just release this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKXUpp2vfcaeibc

[@crypto1300]

Just bought 2 Dragon's on sale at MidwayUSA for $80 each.

[@ifc3893]

Great info!

[@valdemar7337]

does the Hollywood comp run with 5.56?

[@StonerCNC]

Yes it is works with 223 or 556. We also another Hollywood brake for 9mm .

[@valdemar7337]

@@StonerCNC cool, thank you

[@KevinWood44]

The Hypertap still wins. It is 2oz lighter (which is like 40+%) that is a monumental difference. Considering it can be found on sale for $110 and it was only a 5% (which you will not feel) It is the clear winner. IMO

[@smurfaka]

Great video! Are the recoil reduction better with these than a muzzle break + silencer? Or are silencers not allowed in competitions for some reason? Always wondered why I never see competitors with silencers. Cheers

[@StonerCNC]

@@smurfaka I have not personally tested a silencer on a sled. However, from what I seen online they are not as effective at recoil reduction as good brake. If do a future test I may try one. However, at this time I do not own one.

[@smurfaka]

@@StonerCNC okey, thank you sir

[@thatboygerv]

No Unrivaled UB or SB3 apart of this test 🤔🤔🤔

[@StonerCNC]

@@thatboygerv I would be happy to test them in the future. At the time we picked what was available and we thought was the best. I choose the Apollo max over the Unrivaled because it was in stock I believe the unrivaled was sold out . Additionally the Apollo max had a similar design with more ports at a more aggressive angle which we thought would produce better recoil reduction. I am unfamiliar with the SB3. Additionally we cannot test every brake on the market. If you have one of these brakes you mentioned and would lend it to us I will test it in a second video follow up.

[@thatboygerv]

@@StonerCNC I got a Unrivaled on my 13.9 build butI actually might pick up the stoner for my 14.5 build I'm doing . I'm not to familiar with timing nuts, does the pin and weld go on the nut or on the brake?

[@StonerCNC]

@@thatboygerv You would time it and drill thru the nut and comp as one piece. Send me a message on our facebook page.

[@liggerstuxin1]

After m4-72 finishing returns kick in hard. I have it and Hypertap. Haypertap looks cooler though

[@freddyw4555]

You don’t need one on a AR

[@StonerCNC]

@@freddyw4555 they help check out this short comparing recoil of an A2 flash hider to a Hollywood comp. kzbin.info7lwlmBXMd5E?si=-fXwPpecpAafuzy2

[@salsavillo9146]

Elmer over here

[@thestacche6898]

Sleds don’t give accurate measurements. This test is totally pointless.

[@StonerCNC]

@@thestacche6898 If you watch our second video we do multiple shooting test along with a sled test. The sled measures straight back recoil. The shooting test and shooter perspective give the entire picture.

[@thestacche6898]

@@StonerCNC again sleds are a worthless data point. spend 10k on a proper sensor, learn how to use it and youll learn why

[@StonerCNC]

@ Do you have access to one of these testing devices? Or know someone we could send it to? We would love to send our brake in to get more data.

[@thestacche6898]

@ yes, i own one and am an engineer

[@StonerCNC]

@@thestacche6898 Do you want to test it on your testing device? Do you have a channel or lab resolutes I can see to compare to?

[@SpaceRanger187]

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