BEST BUDGET AM5 MATX MSI B650M Gaming Plus WiFi 6E

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@canibalvegano920]

@@mikesunboxing I want to buy this motherboard but it doesn't offer tested support on the memories I have - corsair vengeance 2x16gb 6000mhz- is there any way for me to know if it will work? Being that nonsite does not say that it has been tested and approved in this ram. Sorry for the English, I'm a Brazilian fan

[@Monkeyscratch]

Do you know when/if its coming to the US?

[@unknownwanderer3063]

Thank you sir for showing this board its really good and its been a month now haven't found any issue

[@mikesunboxing]

Good to hear

[@mmistrr]

I was looking for a review to this motherboard and after a long time I got one. Thank you very much for uploading this video.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad I could help! nice board, i like it

[@uglybob7505]

Another good lookin' and great performin' mobo from MSI. Really like the 80s decal on this one, would look decent in a white case build.

[@mikesunboxing]

reminds me of a 80s shell suit

[@Vialli100.]

@@mikesunboxing hahahahaha...

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

Thank's Uncle Bob. now we all can become snow blind 😛

[@0nizuka_Eikichi]

I will use it with gigabyte 4070 tu süper aero its fits perferct

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

What a lovely looking Mainboard 😘 Thank you very much for the MB review 😀

[@mikesunboxing]

Our pleasure!

[@OlettaLiano]

Lovely? No, it's too bright and cheery. I want the doom and gloom dark colors.

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

@@OlettaLiano Doom & gloom dark ??? just turn on the news. and you get it 😛

[@OlettaLiano]

@@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie No, I only turn on the news when I'm in the mood for a fiction story.

[@jarofwhisky]

Just got this 2 weeks ago for a fully white build, good stuff

[@mikesunboxing]

great little board, i really like it

[@luiszapatac]

Nice, specs of the pc?

[@rickh8380]

Nice review Mike and Lady Kath as always. I really like the look of this board. As Bob said....liken' the 80's vibe. Take care everyone and have a great week. Cheers.

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for watching!

[@fearsomechicken4407]

Great review! Would the ryzen 7 7800x3D be suitable for this motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that would be fine

[@OlettaLiano]

Hi, Mike. I think the last couple motherboards you reviewed were too white-bright for my tastes. I like 'em jet-black with no RGB. On a different subject,. Wednesday I'm going to have my first full knee replacement surgery. Doing the left one first. If all goes well, in six to eight weeks I'll get the right one done. If it doesn't go well, you'll have one less trouble-maker on your channel to deal with. LOL

[@mikesunboxing]

hope it all goes well and keep in touch if you can so we know you are okay. Sending best wishes and prayers for you

[@jamesmiscellaneous]

Hope the new knees are great! You KNEED them. lolz!

[@OlettaLiano]

@@jamesmiscellaneous Thanks... I think. LOL

[@canibalvegano920]

I'm Brazilian! I'm thinking of buying this motherboard. Will it be able to handle a high-end motherboard and processors that are upgraded from the 8600g? And isn't there a question of incompatibilities for the 8 on the motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

no that should be fine, although until the new cpus arrive it is speculation

[@mikebaker2927]

Nice looking AM5 board that would suit my needs if I ever go the AMD route again.

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks mike

[@jasonwoods4811]

Thanks Mike and Kath :D

[@mikesunboxing]

Our pleasure! cheers Jason

[@НикитаРыба-ж5р]

I don't know much about motherboards but how would you rate this motherboard from 1 to 10 for ryzen 7 7800x3d and 4080super considering that my budget for a motherboard is no more than $170

[@mikesunboxing]

solid 9

[@НикитаРыба-ж5р]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you very much

[@TheGawron666]

Have you bought it and put it together yet? I bought the same CPU but the GPU is 4070 Super and it doesn't detect my GPU at all in the system

[@НикитаРыба-ж5р]

@@TheGawron666 No, I haven’t bought it yet. I’ll buy on Black Friday in 3 months. And I’ll probably buy 4090 and not 4080 super

[@mikesunboxing]

@@TheGawron666 This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@wearemany73]

Good stuff Mike 👍

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks, have a great day

[@familyplans3788]

Great video as always , love the board and especially love the 5 fan headers , weirdly my next board purchase will be mainly focused on how many fan headers it has , I'm obsessed with dust and love playing around with the fans to get a decent airflow without attracting too much dust , I don't game , I'm more tinkerer with Arduino stuff so i don't stress my P.C. too much , but i like to keep it cool and clean

[@mikesunboxing]

this is a good board for that with all the headers it has

[@felipfr]

Hi Mike, which would be the best choice, this board or Gigabyte B650m Aorus Elite AX? And why? Thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

the atx one will be better

[@Senrab46]

Good looking board with plenty of features plus nice to see them trying to be diff with gaming logos. I saw a B550m Mortar mb on amazon, new £180 but As New £124! Because its AM5 worried it could have bent pins so would you advise buying new rather than risk amazon not checking returned mb? Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath, look forward to matx case videos 👍

[@mikesunboxing]

matx is an often overlooked format and can potentially be as powerful but cheaper

[@Jkeimfx]

Thanks for the review!I am wondering if i should get this motherboard or the b650m pro rs.They are the same price and i am thinking of pairing with ryzen 5 7600.Could you please help me and explain why the one i should buy is better?What are the pros and cons?

[@mikesunboxing]

it depends on the case, the msi GPU slot is lower so can effect some GPUs air intake, This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@Jkeimfx]

@@mikesunboxing Alright i will see if i can get more info there.Thanks!

[@kelvinjinxd]

Sorry, the best budget am5 has to be AsRock B650M-HDV/M.2. MSI does have one candidate to compete that. It is MSI B650M Gaming WIFI (non-plus) version. It is so sad MSI doesn’t sell that board to the Western world. For DDR5 budget board, 2-dimm makes more sense.

[@mikesunboxing]

the AsRock B650M-HDV/M.2 is a good board and probably one of the more powerful in the price class, but no RGB in 2024, that for a massive bulk of the market is a deal breaker either before or after they buy one and end up on a discord somewhere asking how to control their argb devices

[@Anime69-os2kr]

Great video ❤❤❤ A small question This matx one or the Atx version? Which will be better?

[@mikesunboxing]

all boards with the M suffix are MATX, ATX boards are generally better as there is more room to position components in a more logical layout

[@mikesunboxing]

all boards with a M suffix are micro atx / MATX. In general ATX is better as there is more room for components like ram slots and VRMs

[@vsn1p3x68]

Which one is better msi pro b650m-a wifi or msi b650m gaming plus wifi? Getting both for same price

[@mikesunboxing]

gaming plus wifi for me

[@familhagaudir8561]

I'm a near-total ignorant about PC building but am looking to make one. Is a GIGABYTE B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI the same motherboard, but from a different company? And should I worry about certain companies? Edit : Nevermind, I found a review comparaison website and they are very different board, the Gigabyte one being much, MUCH worse, at the same price, though none of its listed limitation conflict with the components I was considering to plug into it. Will throttle anything drawing much power/heat. A Ryzen 7600 is fine though.

[@mikesunboxing]

if you have to have a MATX sized motherboard there are limitations, if you are building a new pc i would strongly recommend going with an ATX sized setup, it won't cost much extra and has more room and better cooling and easier access and upgrades

[@dusk1152]

Between the MSI Pro B650M-A Wifi and this, what would you recommend?

[@mikesunboxing]

this one i think

[@luiszapatac]

Hey is this good for the ryzen 7 7800x3d? I dont know anything about vrms and power delivery, is this good enough for a high end pc?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes this will be fine for that

[@somewhatuniqueusername1161]

Thanks for the review! Looking to pair this board with a 7700 non x. Would this board be able to handle a pbo2 tune with it?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes, absolutely

[@stefanogasparoni814]

Hi, mike should i buy this motherboard or the atx version?

[@mikesunboxing]

i always prefer ATX over MATX if possible and if it will fit your case

[@rayleon-gs8gd]

i have the msi b650 m_p with a ryzen 7 7700....i have a micro atx case....if i upgrade my motherboard in near future , which one should i get? 1. msi b650 m-a wifi 2. this one 3. gigabyte b650m ds3h m-a wifi model costs 10 dollar less here ...ds3h and this one from your video costs same.... i dont need wifi ...i need the best one with more tdp so i can upgrade to a better cpu...suggest me the best ...and love watching your contents from bangladesh..

[@mikesunboxing]

probably the one in the video is has a good strong vrm (for matx) thanks for watching

[@Snoewyzxc]

hi new sub here, torn between this, gigabyte b650m aorus elite ax, msi b650m-a pro wifi what should i get? planning to pair it with ryzen 7 7800x3d and cl30 6000 mhz ram

[@mikesunboxing]

i would go with this one i think

[@xm8930]

Ive got the ionz kz-z case that you have reviewed previously....(thats why I bought it ) anyway that case has a tiny ledrgbsw cable for the led switch where on earth does it go on this motherboard if at all.. 😆.. and also im torn between this motherboard and the atx version which one would be better for a ryzen 5 7600x with 4070 gpu.( not sure which 4070 to get yet )

[@mikesunboxing]

the ledrgbsw goes to the rgb fans or hub to manually change the lighting, but depending on the version of the case you have it might not be needed. also ATX would be my choice for the motherboard if you have an atx case

[@piyushmandal8076]

Between this and b650 gaming plus wifi which is better in your opinion?

[@mikesunboxing]

the atx version is better if you have the room

[@daryldeasis5277]

Hi Mike, what case do you suggest for this mobo?

[@mikesunboxing]

that is an extremely wide range of possible answers, maybe join the discord and we can discuss options

[@LeandroMachadoAmorim]

ASUS Prime B650M-A WiFi II or Msi 650m gaming plus WIFI?

[@mikesunboxing]

msi gaming plus wifi for me

[@LeandroMachadoAmorim]

@@mikesunboxing I am surprised, thanks

[@MAR-jq7co]

I would recommend making a video on the most reliable motherboards, there is no such video on the internet. Also, what ram you have found to be working well with the motherboard models. Are there any motherboard that dont boot without a bios update e.g. asus tuf boards.

[@mikesunboxing]

there is a good reason that the video doesn't exist, and that is because the top choices change and with AM5 especially all the brands are stuggling with the LGA socket and pins. hopefully the 800 series boards due out in august will be a bit better

[@MAR-jq7co]

@@mikesunboxing also, the issue with intel and the ihs pressure on the cpu causing issues. This is why I have not upgraded, also waiting for the next intel and amd updates before taking a decision.

[@lorderectus1849]

Thanks again for another gift 🎁

[@mikesunboxing]

you are welcome

[@venomus9286]

This board, ASRock B650M PG Riptide or maybe Gigabyte B650M Gaming X AX? I know ASRock comes with nvme pcie 5.0, but MSI has better connectivity.

[@mikesunboxing]

the msi one for me i think

[@rayhanulsandhan2066]

This vs gigabyte b650m-ds3h vs msi b650m-a wifi Which one will be the best to handle power hungry processor like a ryzen 9 Currently using a msi b650m-p with a 7700...

[@mikesunboxing]

Neither is a good choice for ryzen 9 to be honest

[@brandon-y9j]

Hi mike, do u recommend maxun termintor b650m ?

[@mikesunboxing]

Never used one so can’t really recommend it

[@Mr.McWatson]

Wow this incredible timing. My short list for Mobo is this and the Asrock RS Pro. Do you consider one superior in some way?

[@mikesunboxing]

msi for the bios and software support.

[@Mr.McWatson]

@@mikesunboxing Thanks! According to the website it seems to support more RAM too

[@ronaldmcdo5516]

@@mikesunboxinglike him, I'm on the fence between this and Asrock B650M Pro RS. I'd buy this today, thanks for the advice!

[@tommyrunner]

this one have one big PLUS for HTPC builds, PCI-E x1 slot over GPU slot for sound card. good for htpc builds

[@mikesunboxing]

it is a nice board, a good all rounder

[@matthewday7565]

Nice heatsinks and integrated IO shield... Err, how does fitting a board with integrated IO shield work, does it just butt up to the opening

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is right it should fit reasonably snuggly in the opening, like a normal shield just without the "pop" when it fits right in

[@JamesThomas-wf6qm]

Sorry, this may seem like a silly question to those who are educated on PCs: Is this motherboard compatible with a 4070TI super? Building my first PC.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it is, and is a great GPU

[@shantodas8184]

just upgraded to am5 with this mobo. i love this board. i wanted to add a 2nd stick of ram but couldn't move the bottom latch of the 4th ram slot. is that locked?

[@mikesunboxing]

no it should move okay like the others

[@shantodas8184]

@@mikesunboxing i think the bottom latch is locked i couldnt get it moving. but i installed the new ram. it worked fine but after the pc was on sleep mode it gave a bsod. and after restarting its been ok. should i be worried?

[@jurrace.s2032]

Hello my friend, great video, thanks a lot! I have a question maybe you can help me, I bought this MB but I have a thing with the RAM. I want to buy the Adata AX5U5600C4616G-SLABBK cause the price is good and have really good performance but that model isn't in the official support list of MSI, the thing is i saw a Kingston Fury KF556C40BB-16 but the thing is this Kinsgton don't have the EXPO profile, but this are in the official support list of MSI, so the question is I have problems if I buy a RAM that is NOT into the official RAM list? And what if I buy a ram that only has the Intel XMP option? Thanks a lot for your answer and sorry for my english, greetings!

[@mikesunboxing]

ideally get any ram that is EXPO certified, just because it isn't on the QVL doens't mean it won't work, just they might not have got around to testing it yet. For AM5 systems avoid XMP only ram for now

[@jurrace.s2032]

@@mikesunboxing Hello sorry for my late answer, finally I bought the MSI B60M Gaming Plus WIFI and a Adata Xpg Lancer Blade 16gb Ddr5 5600Mhz Low Profile stick, this RAM isn't in the MSI official list but works perfect on this MB, no BSOD and fast boot, like you said, this rams have the expo certified and works perfectly, thanks for the help!

[@TheGawron666]

I bought a 7800X3D and a 4070 Super and it doesn't detect my GPUs at all in the system, not to mention fans don't spin up even though I'm sure I plugged each one in well

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@oppaisjsj]

Hi, does this motherboard have any software control like a control centre?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it uses msi center which is by far the best of all the motherboard software bundles

[@oppaisjsj]

@@mikesunboxing thank you ❤️

[@oppaisjsj]

Also does it have addressable rbg header to control or sync fans rgb with motherboard control center?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it does

[@mario2726]

Hey Hello will this be work fine with ryzen 5 7600x ....and ddr 5 7200mhz teamgroup t -create expert overclocking

[@mikesunboxing]

ddr 7200 is probably too fast and unlikely to work, aim for 6000mhz for the sweet spot for price and performance

[@mistermix3516]

Is that the Ryzen 7 7700 you bought from AliExpress?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it is, runs great

[@mistermix3516]

@@mikesunboxing Nice to hear that, I thought you have bought a dodgy cpu. :)

[@alihassanhassan483]

Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite Ax or This board for my build with Ryzen 7 7800x3d

[@mikesunboxing]

either will be fine choices

[@hailethanh1800]

Will this mainboard handle the 7800x3d CPU ?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes no problem

[@steliosbishop8403]

Cheap CD keys for windows 11 etc, are they legal to use?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes they are, been using them for years now

[@Stefan.Stefanov]

But why the M2 sockets are Gen4x4? They are directly connected to the CPU, that's not M2 by the chipset, it's M2 by the CPU. So, why.... why MSI.... why? All other B650 mobos are Gen5x4 but MSI B650 models are Gen4x4 :(

[@mikesunboxing]

being that gen 5 drives are still way too expensive and rare, 4 x 4 is the sensible choice and helps to separate chipsets for msi

[@Stefan.Stefanov]

@@mikesunboxing So, is it good overall? I got an R7 9700X and I'm looking for a decent B650 with good power phases. My budget is 150 euros for a mobo, can you recommend some models.

[@9meez]

I am using the same motherboard bought about a month ago and using Ryzen 7600. But my M2 2 TB nvme keeps getting crashed while playing Games and then the drive disappears until I restart my PC 😢

[@mikesunboxing]

try it without the heat sink on, it might be getting dislodged from the m.2 connection with expansion and contraction heat cycles

[@Linux88899]

can i connect 3pwm argr fans and a cpu cooler on MSI B650M GAMING WIFI without fans hub? pls reply

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes if they can daisy chain

[@j.a6778]

I got this board but be warned, the gpu slot sits lower and will be in the second slot of your case, if you have a matx case that the board sits close or flush on the floor, and you have a 2.5 slot card, you wont be able to fit in standard 25mm case fan and have to resort to slim fans. I wish i should have checked, with dan case a3, no room for my fans. My fault anyway not checking first, otherwise good budget board

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is often a problem or at least a consideration for MATX boards and cases

[@cooldharan]

is it good for running a server?

[@mikesunboxing]

that a very wide statement, it would depend on the type of server, but in theory yes

[@shantodas8184]

my pc case is antec p82 flow. i cant seem to connect the front panel usb connector in this motherboard. isn't that standardized or do i need a converter or adapter?

[@mikesunboxing]

should be okay, is it the same size plug but just wont fit?

[@shantodas8184]

@@mikesunboxing yes its the same size plug i worked it out. the cable is a bit tight around the back. i might have to loosen it

[@OnlyRahul10]

It's support deep cooler ak620 or cooler master hyper 620???

[@mikesunboxing]

should be okay with those if you can find one now

[@OnlyRahul10]

@@mikesunboxing thank you ☺️

[@Interloper322]

How's the boot time on this board

[@mikesunboxing]

with the latest bios and the right DDR5 settings it is rapid

[@Interloper322]

@@mikesunboxing less than 30seconds?

[@francistein8409]

Off topic but why do motherboard boxes look tasty? 😅

[@mikesunboxing]

haha not sure

[@devinyasas]

Is it ok if i put my 7800x3d in here ?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes sure no problem

[@devinyasas]

@@mikesunboxing thanks

[@vegito339]

Can I use ryzen 5 7600 in it with rx 7700xt gpu!???

[@mikesunboxing]

yes you can

[@rafaelreis9962]

Do you know If It uses drmos?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes but the gaming wifi model doesn't that has descrete mosfets

[@alveerahman5622]

Bro Can i run R7 7700x without any performance lag???

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is fine

[@radewhp]

is Be Quite Dark Pro 5 fit on it?

[@mikesunboxing]

no idea sorry, i would think so

[@lorderectus1849]

But I’m then again each to their own!

[@uradi97]

B650 eagle ax review please

[@mikesunboxing]

i don't think that board has a diagnostic led, so i would advise caution against buying any board that doesn't have a diagnostic dled for AM5

[@uradi97]

@@mikesunboxing it has 4 led

[@darkox4334]

This or Asus Prime B650M-A WiFi AM5 DDR5 AMD Motherboard

[@mikesunboxing]

This one

[@repreppy7762]

Can it handle Ryzen 9 7900 non X ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that should be fine

[@repreppy7762]

@@mikesunboxing thanks mate

[@Doobie3010]

Yeah,nabbed a few of these-neat mobos.

[@mikesunboxing]

they are pretty cool and good value for money

[@Doobie3010]

@@mikesunboxing yeah,Yeah they really have it all-for most potential builders.Was a good overview,btw man.

[@KOCHIMAFIA]

Building guide please

[@mikesunboxing]

okay no problem

[@lorderectus1849]

She doesn’t want MicroShafts!

[@Vialli100.]

Horrible looking motherboard, as I said MSI is basic and cheap and I personally think they are rubbish.. Great review though, as usual..

[@mikesunboxing]

That is the beauty of the pc market there is lots of choice so you can choose what suits your needs

[@Vialli100.]

@@mikesunboxing For the price it's pretty good though.. Wifi6, built in IO cover, 2 NVME, 4 Ram slots and USB-c front header..

[@mikesunboxing]

@@Vialli100. yeah spec wise it ticks most of the boxes, the colours are a shame and the lower PCIe GPU slot is a pain

[@CyberClu]

I actually like the teal color on the board. That along with the silver color, gives it a superhero type feel to it. And I love most MSI motherboards. You should take a look at Hardware Unboxed reviews of previous Tomahawk, Pro Carbon, and Mortar motherboards for Intel and AMD. They get great recommendations.

[@OlettaLiano]

Maybe you're an ASUS fan then? If so have fun bending over if you have to RMA anything from them. 😂

[@luvergod69]

My Microcenter had the ASRock B650M PG Riptide MATX with a R7 7700x, 32gb 6000 bundle for $351

[@mikesunboxing]

holy crap that is giving it away. the CPU on its own is worth nearly that

[@luvergod69]

@@mikesunboxing With tax it was $389. In the bundle the CPU went down to $94

[@luvergod69]

@@mikesunboxing With tax it was $389

[@CandleInTheEye]

I've just not long got my 7800x3d but gotta say getting thermal paste on them looks like a nightmare I've not set it up yet but not looking forwards to it lol, I do like MSI tho purely on cosmetics a think they go all out to make there products look great I was stuck between this and the auros

[@mikesunboxing]

MSI boards for me have had the edge for a while now, the bios layout and the software all work very well (most of the time)