Best Budget Anamorphic Lenses for the BMCC6K | GREATJOY 1.8x Anamorphic Lens Kit Review

[@jarodparkerdirector]

There's a lot to digest in this video, if you have any question feel fee to drop a comment and I'll try my best to answer if I can. I'm still new to filming anamorphic so if I've missed anything please let me know!

[@video-alchemy]

First of all, thank you for the great video. I am using 35mm and 85mm in R5C. I am thinking about purchasing the S5M2X and using it together. However, if I use the mc21 adapter like in the video, will the 85mm be stuck on the adapter and not be able to be installed?

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you 🙏🏻 yeah, the MC21 sigma adapter doesn’t work with the 85mm but does work with the 35mm and 50mm If you get the MC21 adapter EF - R it might be a different story but I’m not sure. I can imagine it’ll be the same issue.

[@ektorschimatariotis6345]

Congradulations for the video! It's so nice to share experiences with our favourite camera. I would like to ask you a question that it is not about the lenses but maybe would be a good idea for future video. I see you use the Smallrig cage. I guess this cage is dedicated for BMPCC 6K pro because the company haven't still released a new one for the FF version. How does it fit? Are there any problems? Thank you in advanced and sorry if I am out of the topic. Keep up the good work!

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you 🙏🏻 and yes I agree it’s so annoying SmallRig haven’t released a cage for the BMCC6K specifically but it does fit nearly the same. Only issue I have is mounting a handle on the top because you need to use a different screw that sticks out. Hope that helps!

[@ektorschimatariotis6345]

@@jarodparkerdirector thank you for your reply. I am thinking of buying one but I was afraid of "hurting" the camera! Also this cage has the ssd place that it is really useful!

[@jarodparkerdirector]

@ektorschimatariotis6345 I was the same but don’t worry it won’t “hurt” the camera. I don’t really use the SSD slot much I feel like it’s crushing the SSD and it’s hard to access when on a tripod so I use a SmallRig clamp on top of the cage

[@mbractor]

What adapter did you purchase from Amazon that works with the 85mm Great joy?

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thanks for the comment! amzn.eu/d/gyuDrMv (normal adapter with no digital aperture control) But all depends what BM you have, if it's for the L mount full frame or EF pocket 6K so make sure you check What camera do you have??

[@Sethmotley]

What do you set your timeline setting to when shooting 6:5? Great video BTW👍🏼

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you! Depends what aspect you’re looking for Resolution is 4832x2240 after desqueeze. 2.16:1 aspect ratio. (Filmed in 4838 x 4032)

[@Breonnick]

I know shooting at super 35 will desqueez the image to 1.8. But I am curious. What if you do shoot at 2X desqueeze? Is it usable? Can you figure out the composition? Because the reason I ask is because you can shoot at 2x. Bring the footage into Resolve. Go into Fusion. Add a Resize node. Click change pixel aspect. And you can jump the aspect ration of 2x down to 1.8

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Hey, yes you can film 6:5 and set up monitoring for 2x and yes it is useable if you find the right 1.8x desqueeze in the edit. If you just used the 2x desqueeze and not readjust the desqueeze in the edit then not really, especially with the 50mm that has issues with the squeeze difference even at 1.8x. Me personally when I'm on the shoot filming I want to see the final 1.8x desqueeze in the monitor and in camera not a 2x desqueeze so I know exactly what my shot will look like. But that's just me personally. And I want the option for 50fps and not don't want to change resolution during production. I personally don't use DaVinci Resolve but if that is a feature then I will 100% check that out, thank you for letting me know :)

[@jontramel4003]

Thank you for the video. I think it's the Jupitor Suri lens that go with the Blackmagic camera. Does the Saturn as well?

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you! Yes, both Jupiter and Saturns work depending on BMPCC 6K Pro EF mount and BMCC 6K L mount make sure to get the right mounts

[@jontramel4003]

@@jarodparkerdirector Thank you!

[@TonyInEstonia]

i own the same camera, same adapter, and almost the same lens set (except 85mm). And it is absolutely my favorite lens. But i prefer to shoot in Open Gate mode for sure. As many other users. And i have to say that, there is huge issue hides over there. Shooting in Open Gate with 35mm Lens has big Vignette.. And cropping makes footage almost the same as 6:5 mode..:( So that makes Open Gate mode useless for 35mm lens. Disappoints a bit. With 50mm there is also vignette, but not so huge. And it is enough just to add 10-15% zoom in post to avoid this. But anyway, i love them. Will shoot in 6:5

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you 🙏🏻 I’ve been shooting 4:3 and using the 1.8x squeeze in camera and I have to say I much prefer it. I can see the image a lot clearer when shooting and no need to desqueeze in post

[@RobertMatlock]

Great review man, currently looking at the Great Joy. 1 thing I wanted to point out though - Sirui doesn't have any anamorphic lenses that are compatible with blackmagic, as it's an EF mount camera and there's no such thing as a L/RF/E etc. to EF converter. Mirror-less lenses don't work with DSLR mounts because of the flange distance difference. Best bet outside the Great Joy would probably be Laowa, those are what I'm debating on right now.

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Thank you very much! There is Sirui anamorphic L mount lenses for this BMCC 6K, I'm not talking about the EF Pocket 6K Pro. Remember this is an L mount camera! cvp.com/product/sirui-780444-35mm-anamorphic-1-33x And there are L to EF converters, "Sigma MC-21 EF-L Mount Adapter" cvp.com/product/sigma-mc-21-ef-l-mount-adapter And the GreatJoys come with EF mounts if you want to change them around (which I did for versatility with my other EF mounts)

[@RobertMatlock]

@@jarodparkerdirector Apologies my friend, had no idea they updated and they moved to an L-mount from EF. Very great to hear! I have the BMPCC6K Pro and it looks 1:1 to this new BMCC6K at a glance. As for the EF to L mount, it wouldn't solve my problem unfortunately, as it coverts an L mount camera to support EF lenses, but not the other way around. Unfortunately there is no solution and I doubt there ever will be at this point.

[@jarodparkerdirector]

They do look exactly the same so don't worry I get you 100% I still use these lenses on the BMPCC6K Pro and they work fine you just need too crop in a little to remove the long stretch. Greatjoy have an EF adapter, you remove the L mount and put in an EF replacement. This guy has done a great review on the BMPCC6K Pro specifically: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2TJo6CXatZ6o8Usi=epbc5_UZZZOJx_cP

[@focuspulling]

Bizarre and frustrating video that completely ignores open gate - what a waste...

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Why talk about open gate when the BM literally has an anamorphic filming mode?? Why use open gate on these lenses when they clearly aren't made for it??

[@focuspulling]

@@jarodparkerdirector Seriously? That's of course how you record the full native resolution of the sensor, instead of the compromise of the mode you chose. You're confusing recording format with preview which is a mere viewfinder convenience.

[@jarodparkerdirector]

Is recording full frame really recording the entire sensor? I didn't know that thanks! Huhh? What an obvious statement. Why record full frame? 25fps max, crop the large vignette on these lenses, crop most the image because anamorphic , need a monitor large enough to desqueeze 1.8x full frame footage on location instead of having it straight from the camera? Did you actually watch the video? Everyone else in the comments seemed to understand so shall I say it again slower for you?? We in the industry should support each other and not put each other down with comments like yours. Next time just ask me about open gate and I'll help you out the best I can :) be better!

[@focuspulling]

​@@jarodparkerdirector Your responses are triggered and emotionally delicate, but this is a simple technical matter. Without putting enough thought into this, you just stabbed at the 6:5 button because it bears the word anamorphic. But you are telling the camera to ignore 1210 further horizontal pixels by avoiding Open Gate. Some but not all of those pixels may be obscured by a given lens' vignetting. Have you bothered consulting the manual? It explains that you can't get a 1.8x preview anyway at 6:5 Anamorphic or Open Gate 6K 3:2. But you can still compose your shots whether previewing at 1.6x or 2x, since you'll desqueeze in post (the only proper way for preserving quality). These are elementary conclusions whereas you are insisting on perpetuating misinformation. And you are doubling down on your confusion between the full-frame sensor versus the sensor's aspect ratio: the BMCC6K's open gate is an applicable technical feature at both 3:2 and 6:5 modes, standing nearly alone in the market as Sony and Canon fail to offer it (whereas Panasonic and ARRI and Kinefinity and R3D do to a more limited extent).

[@jarodparkerdirector]

You've proven a point I never made! I never said filming 6:5 anamorphic is better quality and higher resolution than if you film open gate. To say I'm spreading misinformation is crazy, please tell me specifically what I've said that's not true? My point is simply, why shoot anamorphics on full frame when you have an easier filming format to use?? I just don't think full frame is appropriate for these low budget lenses, for higher end anamorphic, sure! Ignoring 1210 is really not a massive issue especially when you crop anyway. I'd rather have a 1.8x squeeze in camera (my opinion please don't get angry) and the 50fps. If you've seen the vignette yourself you would know how bad it can be on these lenses. My point and the whole point of the video was too explain my opinions and thoughts on the process, I literally say this at the start of the video, going through anamorphic modes specifically not open gate. When filming open gate and framing with 2x I didn't like desqueezing in post, I just didn't like it, this is just a personal preference. I can tell you don't actually shoot anything because you would know what I'm talking about, especially when monitoring, I simply want my footage to be ready straight out of camera. That's just my opinion (once again please don't get angry) Open gate looks amazing but can sometimes be overkill for clients and working with others, I'd rather shoot anamorphic mode, keep 50fps, have the squeeze straight out of camera and monitor the shots properly. This channel is a community meant to help each other not a platform to criticise how others shoot differently. All you've done here is regurgitate numbers and facts (that most people already know) and think your way is the only way. This is all my opinion and my preferred way of shooting and I do value healthy discussion so I'm excited to say what you have to say :)