BEST BUDGET CONICAL GRINDER?: A Review of the Turin SD40

[@LanceHedrick]

If you haven't, hit the like and subscribe! Can't emphasize how much it helps me. Thank you for watching! Let me know your thoughts on this grinder below.

[@KompletlyKluuless]

😊😊

[@Hikesoup]

I appreciate when reviewers talk about possible specifics bias, it gives the impression of real transparency. Great job.

[@LanceHedrick]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

[@TwoToneSoldier]

It is why Giant Bomb and everyone that has gone through giant bomb I trust with video game reviews. They always say “this guy is a friend of mine” or “I used to work with that company” when discussing games

[@conorohconnor]

There is nothing transparent about this video, if that were the case it would go something like “this grinder is awful due to the insurmountable level of fines, and ruins beautiful coffee, get a KINGrinder instead”

[@LanceHedrick]

Prove to me fines ruins a cup objectively.

[@conorohconnor]

@@LanceHedrick so what you meant to say apparently was “let me know what you think in the comments so long as you agree with what I have said”….? The “prove it” onus is on you my dude. I’m just a shmuck that thought your content was awesome.

[@Schmiddis_focus]

You would be one of those professors at university who actually teach you with their own practical experience and it‘s heck of a lot interesting and entertaining! Love the format and the production quality as well, keep it up Lance.

[@allen.t]

Lance’s one take skill is amazing! The amount of detail you provide is so useful and therapeutic to listen to.

[@LanceHedrick]

Haha! Thank you! Means a lot

[@TEDXX123]

That's a lot of information, a lot of details and i love it! Your Studio look amazing with this light... It's really unique.

[@emmanuelomargalarza1135]

Dude. I love this production SOO much. Production value has gone up sooooo high. Your production quality is astronomical now. Your ability to control your speech cadence, accuracy and precision is the best period. Hats off to you good sir

[@Adi-x8r3c]

Amazing comparison! Would love to have the same comparison but with the new burrs on SK40/SD40 V2

[@dga223]

What a excellent comparison review. Well done sir.

[@timwilkes9741]

New setup looks great man! Can see your production value evolution over the last few years both in your presentation and the audio/video quality. Keep it up, and thanks!

[@brianconnormusic]

Your studio looks like a spaceship and it's awesome

[@LanceHedrick]

Haha! Thank you

[@JesemanuelRamirez]

And with that stash it looks like a retro space themed adult movie studio

[@turnipbeybladespinner7836]

The SD40 is also sold here in my country (Malaysia), but under different brand names and is quite affordable (~$150 w/ titanium burrs) so i was kinda sceptical about purchasing it right before i found this video. thanks for the helpful insight and review, will pick this up as an upgrade for my Timemore C3.

[@RiotBike]

What’s it called in Malaysia?

[@ducttaperulestheworl]

@@RiotBike something along the lines of LYD 016 / 017

[@firdausfido2871]

how well is the performance/reliability so far? im thinking of buying 1 as well

[@tomjohnson4681]

@@firdausfido2871 i would advice looking at the starseeker 55mm conical grinder, i bought one and it is better than both the sd or niche in my opinion .

[@Linus405]

I really like the more “cinematic” style of the video and the whole review give such a good overview I love it :)

[@djordan7979]

If you take the silicone pad off and clean the glue residue off with goo gone, the dosing cup will stick stronger with the magnet. Also it looks better lol.

[@KMD270]

Love the new studio, and the content as always, Lance 👍

[@LanceHedrick]

Thank you so much!

[@Kenjitheninja]

For those in Australia, this company is known as Coffee Tech, however the SD40 doesn't seem to be available for us.

[@derricktyler3577]

Great video! I just got a great deal on a Niche to go along w/ my Urbanic 070s so I was nervous from the still photo. Glad to see I still made the right choice. I couldn’t help but notice (and it’s likely just the editing) but the SD40 didn’t appear to get any WDT while the Niche appeared to have in the video. Again I assume both were treated the same and it was just editing, but after doing a bunch of testing at a friends coffee shop w/ my DE1, I have a heightened awareness of maintaining the same puck prep.😅

[@kunalmj]

Great Review!! I got this grinder and while I have nothing to compare it to, in isolation, it works well for me. Your review hit all the negative points i have noticed myself; I get fair bit of retention and sometimes i have to pound the machine (after belowing) and bunch of grinds will still come out; the markings are trash as Im not sure why they provide all those markings when it clicks at random markings, sometimes in-between major markings and its hard to tell where the arrow is even pointing; I find that i wish there were finer adjustments espeically between ~3-4 which is where there is only one click and every bean ive had dials in around that position and not enough minor adjustments. (Although the tape hack you noted might fix that!!) That said, within its quirks and limitations, I can get it dialed in ok and then it performs fairly consistently for a specific batch of beans. Any chance you can provide some video or tutorial on hacks to lower RPMs?

[@LanceHedrick]

Thanks for confirming! I hope more see your comment. And you can always look into router speed controllers and the like! Or PID would be the best way but programming it can be difficult

[@alanjarrar]

I'm not here for the actual review, but to look at the details and LED light strips in this spaceship style studio. Really cool!

[@dem.p160]

Hey Lance! I see you mentioned the Breville Smart Grinder Pro, and it would be nice to hear your thoughts on that as a cheap entry level dual purpose grinder. There's very few reviews of it! Thanks for the detailed comparison you made on this and other videos

[@Ashhong1]

Doesn’t grind as fine as other grinders. I’m unable to use it for an 8g dose. About 1g of retention/exchange. Not bad overall imo for the price

[@nhayes927]

​@Ashhong1 why would you dose 8 grams? Single shots are not worth the time...

[@coreycannon4511]

Once I saw how easy it was to remove the grind setting click lock thingy, I began to suspect the discrepancy between the dial markings and clicks to be a deliberate design decision. The click lock would be for those not needing/wanting precise setting adjustment but wanting a simple UX/UI of “this is good enough for me,” set it and forget it. For those wanting more precise control simply have to remove the click lock thingy and they would be able to make use of the relatively fine indicators on the dial.

[@LanceHedrick]

Issue is once removed, the collar will drift.

[@coreycannon4511]

@@LanceHedrick Of course. Hence your suggestion for plumber’s tape. Forgive my ignorance but how do stepless grinders keep from drifting? I suppose there are multiple solutions in use by different manufacturers. One other question, while we’re at it, can this (or any other electric grinder that won’t cost me a mortgage payment) grind for ibrik? My daily is a couple 10g doses for Aeropress or a 27g dose for Moka with the very occasional ibrik. Basically I’m looking for an electric version of my J-MAX. The Lagom Mini is tempting as I would not over stress the motor with my low usage but can it grind fine enough or can this SD40?

[@barnsnoble7066]

​@@coreycannon4511most stepless grinders use a worm gear to rotate the collar and prevent drift.

[@VixenYoung]

Hey Lance! Given that it has a very powerful motor, do you think we can use an external or router speed controller like the one you used on your budget flat burr grinder lineup video? Maybe with a slower RPM, it’ll improve the grind size particle. Helps create lesser fines maybe? 😃 Secondly, what grind setting or how many rotations did u have to do when brewing for a v60? I find that even at setting 16, the grind is still too fine… or could it be the fines making my bed muddy? 😮 Hope to hear your inputs. Thanks for making this video, Lance! Love your new studio by the way! 😍

[@erinsjourney315]

Yeah, I have the same query about the roubter controller. Have to get the correct one for AC vs DC motors. I know ‘Porta Keeper’ did a complete disassembly.

[@LanceHedrick]

Issue with router speed controller is you're lowering the motors torque. Best way would be fitting a PID. Granted I think the motor here is strong enough to maybe be routed down to 60% without damaging the motor. But *I'm not a professional

[@perldog07]

My immediate supervisor loves theirs. After watching this video, a barcloth is always covering the switch. 😂 She also keeps a tee ball bat and shovel handy in case it acts weird. We got an identical used one from Joe. Sushpishouz 😉 .

[@ILT12345]

Last time he pats the hopper like a happy boy. Now his eyebrows are doing the same maniacal glee. Stupid comment aside, thanks Lance. I definitely want one, but then I realize my JXPro would be lonely collecting dust in the corner of my cabinet.

[@ritaweygint4038]

That black Niche grinder is beautiful… Until I can afford it I’m using the Baratza ESP.

[@dannyquiroz5777]

Napoleon Dynamite vibes at 18:45 Love the video Lance I’m always looking for something new to potentially recommend!

[@anderdelrio]

Once again, the thoroughness, the depth and clarity of information you present in your review, are awesome! And appreciated. So much expertise and thoughtfulness in your commentary. 🤘You rock.

[@jmfritsch1]

The brows, man... the brows.... only 7 seconds in and I'm smiling :)

[@LanceHedrick]

Haha!

[@GreenFlamingo]

I don’t always watch coffee videos but when I do I browse.

[@LanceHedrick]

Oh bring in the plays on words!

[@bradyvilhauer4445]

Don’t want to disappoint Daddy Hoff bro I was ABSOLUTELY WEAK IN THE KNEES WHEN HE LAUGHED AFTER THAT

[@automatic91]

new studio and video gear looks GREAT

[@TheHHIPPO]

Amazing lance where your channels come from and where it is and heading, great work and content 👍

[@angelagrumpy962]

I love that he said the Niche is for those who like chocolatey type espresso. That’s what I like. I really wish it wasn’t so hard & expensive to get the Niche in the US

[@LanceHedrick]

Loads of grinders that optimize chocolates. Loads better than niche, too. Depends on your budget and if you want to ever use for pourover.

[@timchong6728]

@@LanceHedrick so what are a few examples here, for chocolatety espresso without any use for pourovers

[@MrJSenf]

Your De Niro was spot on. :D

[@StevenBarnes-MrRat]

Looks like you've got the studio dialed in now. Like the lighting and camera work 👍

[@glleon80517]

Great video, Lance. Has anyone put a motor speed controller in front of their grinder to allow one to control RPM?

[@dreamtube3433]

I had a G-Iota/DF64. Ran great until I had to change the burrs. It never functioned again properly so I sold it. Had also quite a lot of WDT. Now I have a SD40, it is great, faster, no WDT, costs less and most of all so far it is flawless......case closed.

[@MxhitShxrma]

At this price point, I'd love a comparison with the DF54, SK40, and Encore ESP!

[@dman4435]

I think the SD40 will be my first grinder...... Seems like a good starting grinder

[@michaelf9594]

Just wanted to say I am also hoping for a DF64e review!! Love your content and Latte Art videos!

[@Nickporter17]

I love mine

[@Cenot4ph]

solid review again Lance, thanks!

[@scoobtoober2975]

If you haven't sent you sette in for a new gear box ever. I recommend it. It quiets it down a fair by. Still loud, but better. But then again, it shouldn't have ever been that loud..

[@uhli4893]

Someone at Cafe Martella Singapore did a non invasive dimmer mod/addition on the DF64 to vary or bring down the speed, which should work for this too.

[@DanielGoller]

Thanks for that mention, i can put away controlling the motor directly that way. Lance should try and tell us if that works too his liking.

[@christophermanning6146]

Went down this rabbit hole and it doesn't look like it will work.

[@beaunistler2665]

Ive got one over in Thailand, works well for me for Flair58, only complaint is that make sure you clean the gear well, I almost sealed mine shut permanently 😅 Im not sure the tape hack would work as turning too tight might seal it forever 😅

[@douglasmelean5194]

I own the 1zpresso jx pro at the moment, but to much work yo dial in espresso plus once dialed to much work to do 2 3 shots. Going yo return it. Would you recomend the sd40? I do aeropress and espresso mostly. Been looking for budget grinders that work got both. Should this be my go to? Or are there other good on that princr range options? Huge fan of you vids 🙏

[@eduardofcgo]

What do you mean work for 2 3 shots? Is it not consistent?

[@douglasmelean5194]

@@eduardofcgo no, just to much manual labor. Its a great consistent grinder! But only thinking of grinding muliple shots. Its to much work.

[@chrisosborne1975]

Awesome grinder, but I wouldn’t recommend the stepless mod using thread tape. I tried it and ended up galling the very thin stainless steel threads in the process. Threads became toasted and the grinder was stuck at a fixed setting forever.

[@mikeobrien1118]

Enjoyed the review! Funny enough have had the opposite experience with Light/Dark roast on my Niche. I couldn’t pull a decent shot from a dark roast to save my life but all my light to medium roasts thus far have been wonderful. Always interesting to see folks different experiences.

[@LanceHedrick]

I'm not saying the shots with lights are bad. They just lack everything a light should be. And I've pulled on around a dozen niches haha! They just lack flavor separation and clarity.

[@mikeobrien1118]

@@LanceHedrick interesting. I will have to try some light roast shots from other grinders to check that out! The rabbit hole… it never ends😂

[@mightymouse9657]

Tried to mod it to stepless using your idea however it doesn’t work. The dial just spins even with teflon tape. However i appreciate the video and all your content. Always entertaining and informative.

[@HansProbs]

Why porto bro? Thats wild. Sick studio. Dropping LVL50 knowledge like its free!

[@Avatar711Wizard]

Thanks Lance. Great video as usual.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

What I find is helpful to equalize espresso temperatures a bit more when comparing two different shots side by side, is using a double walled glass just for the first shot and a regular cup /glass for the 2nd. It should be a lot closer that way. Normally I don't use the double walled glass unless comparing, because I don't mind having my shot cool. It's interesting how our perception of the taste can change as it cools sometimes.

[@codyrogers3876]

Love me some meaty coffee Love how big your channel has gotten! New studio looking great! Looking forward to what's next!

[@S2580ss]

2 comments. The first is when are you releasing your brewing ASMR album? Fantastic sound work on that! The second is your explanation of the undulating style from conical burrs was excellent, it made so much sense

[@saint-cetacean]

Any chance of a follow up review (shorter, if need be) for their stepless SK40?

[@4YearOldPowerSinger]

I love your videos. Will yo be doing a review on the Weber grinders?

[@joebeone]

Thank you, man, this is so good, thanks for what you do!

[@joebeone]

It's probably hard to measure particle distribution (e.g., using one of those laser rigs, those must be expensive) and display a graph...

[@fredbloggs6080]

I didn't even recognize you at first with your new hairstyle, mustache, and glasses.

[@scoobtoober2975]

Somehow i've aquired 3 conical grinders and i think i hate 2 out of 3. Capresso (small, free one), sette 270wi (loud and mediocre), orphan espresso pharos. I've compared my brew techniques to other places, at the source. Not a side by side but same day or different days. There is definitely a noticeable difference. And how you described the differences today sounds like the differences between the grinders i have too. I'd equate the niche to the pharos and the turin to the sette. Similar size burrs in both. Capresso is smaller around 30mm. Noisy and below mediocore.The pharos is 73mm for this gen 1 version. Impossible to do espresso without a drill attachment. I've had comparisons to an ek43, ditting (large something), bunzilla 80 or 100mm i think ghost burrs or combo, maybe one or two others. Most have been on the ek43 train for a long time. I think that needs to change. James Hoffman and his particle distribution analysis sparked this. As the ek didn't come out on top for espresso for no limit grinder line up. That to say, what's best isn't clear. Pun intended. Time to try something else. I don't want end game as that is just asking for settling in a fun hobby. I was considering the turin's in general for the price. I may go the df83 route. As it sounds the smaller conical's in any price category won't make a huge difference. My friend has a niche and for espresso i think it's good, he doesn't use it for pour overs as you eluded to the potential problems. Your tasting notes sound on point. My word of caution is, tools like tds or refractometer can muddy the waters. An old shop i used to go to 2-3 times a week. We'd taste new stuff all the time. Cuppings every weekend. The owner got wrapped around the axle with tools and insisting the extraction was better therefore the taste was better. I said no. It doesn't always work that way. You have to taste, adjust, meter check, adjust and not be sucked into tools making flavor decisions. Customer feedback should not be ignored. Grinders, water, method, timing dwell time, etc. All play into it. Keep at it. I think your a channel up my alley. I'll watch some more. Love the shirt. I'm a home roaster and hambella is a regular location in my cabinet to roast.

[@jeff9940]

Excellent thx! Small critic, when you analyse the cup pls keep it the same side you present the grinder. ...mayne cause english is my 2nd language? :)

[@zeropuckprep]

Genius with teflon tape. I do that with my portafilter handles 😜

[@slanto]

Love that you go into these new grinders as I'm personally always curious about them! I can understand a decent amount about grinders by now, but when comparing them it's a little hard to see exacts on positives and negatives. If anyone would like to also share their knowledge on grinders there are a few I'm comparing together to actually see which to buy. (Niche Zero - $800~. Unable to buy, price is too high but it's a nice comparison level). DF64 - $450. Sette 270 - $400. SD40 - $250. Smart Grinder Pro - $200. As far as I know the order of "Best" for these grinders overall would be Niche Zero > Sette 270 > DF64 > SD40 / SGP. Again I'd not just love to know which might be nice to buy, but what really makes people choose one thing over another other than just price since I'd adore learning more and sharing it with the next person who asks. 🤎

[@michaelf9594]

I'm pretty sure for Lance it is DF64>>Niche Zero ~ Sette > SD40 for espresso since he loves his flat burrs.

[@perldog07]

Mine just got here from Joe today. Dialed in some medium on my 51mm appliance. Was different than the df83 and that muddling actually favored the d40 with my house blend to our taste. She tasted blind with dairy. I tasted espresso. It will be used to fill kcup baskets for her pleasure. Upgrading her from a 4cup drip and blade grinder. Find your assesment spot on.

[@hawkeyeted]

The 'stache is on point.

[@omarpixel9176]

Whoo whee I love the new channel aesthetics dude.

[@NoZenith]

Thank you so much for this. I was researching the Lagom Mini and was waiting for more reviews on the new burrs... but now... still stuck on the Niche and Lagom Mini

[@LanceHedrick]

Lagom mini is great but is filter focused. I'd recommend it over both these if you're 80% filter!

[@NoZenith]

@@LanceHedrick I wouldn't normally pull more than two espresso shots in a row a couple times a week. It's mostly just me and I'm not into the faff and mess of pulling shots daily. I normally do filter or Moka Pot at the finest and sometimes snag coffee on the go away from home... thanks for another vote for the simple Lagom Mini. I think I'm going to commit to that now that it seems they have specifically addressed the motor stalling. I still don't exactly understand how you're supposed to judge where you dialed in if you do go down to Espresso once in awhile and then try and find where you were at before but it looks like the only reasonably priced option for the quality:-) I did love your review on it against the niche. That was so helpful

[@LanceHedrick]

Absolutely! And there is a number system. Shouldn't be too difficult if you just remember rotations and number!

[@NoZenith]

@@LanceHedrick I've seen my recent reviews where they have removed the numbers because the numbers never really correlated with anything other than your own personal experience with your grinder, and people complained 😅 (zero wasn't really zero and one person's recipe didn't correlate to another's units results or some such. I think it only has dots now

[@jacobfiksel3600]

@@NoZenith they did remove the numbers, so you have to know how many rotations away from the zero point you’ve gone. 10 big dots is 1 rotation. There will be one dot with another empty circle over it, so if you know how far that is from the 0 point then you use that as the reference point. It’s minorly annoying, but not as bad as it sounds. Works great for 1-2 espressos a day and also single dose filter

[@clarusdieu4385]

Hi Lance, I was wondering how you'd compare both this and the niche with a higher end hand grinder, particularly the 1z K-Plus since that seems to be the crowd favorite. Thanks for the videos!

[@alexandreignjatovic4339]

You instantly won a like with the eyebrow dance in the 2 first seconds of the video.

[@thedamnbored]

Love your new studio

[@benfrafranco8210]

How would the SD 40 compare to the Fellow Opus for espresso? Thanks!

[@slitherzither]

The new studio is looking great!

[@LanceHedrick]

Thank you!

[@kennethguerrero6802]

Love this! Buying this! Wait. Should i buy this or the urbanic flat burr with titanium burrs? Help! I have zero clue what i am doing!

[@johnliray948]

Thanks for the insight! Will this be a good step up or "upgrade" from the grinder that comes with the Breville Barista Express? Needless to say, I'll be using this primarily for espresso.

[@D4PPZ456]

Plz review the upgraded DF64P or E from the same company. They should be closer to end game.

[@matt-g-recovers]

I drink my cappuccino with sugar whipped into the milk. No apologies, I like it and work out like crazy so I am keeping it. Anyway, I want a grinder that will make coffee that shines in that environment. I am also a nut...I grind 3 separate roast levels at different grind levels and mix them. 6g med. 6g med/dark. 6g dark. Then mix together and pull my shot... amazing. I'm currently using a modified for espresso, Sboly conical from Amazon. Was only 75$. Will an expensive grinder help or make for tea like coffee that doesn't stand up in my environment? Ah shoot I already watched this...and commented! Hahaha. Thanks Lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

that is awesome! if what you are doing tastes good, don't change a dang thing!

[@Markiller15]

Unbelievably detailed video. I just subscribed, you’re my new reference! Would you consider reviewing the new df-64e? I’m considering it right now to replace my Mignon Tradizione (like the facile, all manual with 50mm burrs). Thanks!

[@LanceHedrick]

Just got one delivered!

[@Markiller15]

@@LanceHedrick I can’t wait for your review. I decided to go for the DF64e with SSP HU burrs. I’m kinda anxious to know what you’ll thinks about it 😅

[@ThatUNCWguy]

Ok you have me intrigued, this SD40 vs the Lagom Mini

[@LanceHedrick]

Issue with that comparison is their goals are different. Sd40 has a hunking motor for espresso. Lagom is not built for as much espresso. I prefer flavor from the lagom but if you're an espresso first drinker (more than 40% espresso) then lagom won't last you super long.

[@greenflee]

Would you say the SK40 step-less would beat the Baratza esp for espresso?

[@liheath558]

How does this compare with 1Zpresso JX-PRO , sette30 on espresso? Ignore the manual part

[@momoisstrange]

Late to the party, but this review pointed out some of the turn off’s for me, thank you! This is the most efficient review of this grinder I’ve seen yet

[@fscottqc]

I find that the primary difference between these two grinders is inherent in the fact that particle distribution is proportional to the diameter of the difference between the grind ratio of the burs over against the… I NEED A ‘BE HAMBELA’ SHIRT!!!

[@mkoni27]

Can you review the Starseeker Edge grinder? Would be interested to see your opinion

[@KristianMortensen]

Kafmasino - looking forward to your review. Will it be another wired gourmet? Its down to 950 from next week. And kafmasino and decent next to each other - interesting

[@LanceHedrick]

We will see! I am incredibly excited to see the price drop

[@KristianMortensen]

Any indication on when the review will be posted?

[@39anonim]

Is that a wooden scale underneath the espresso machine? It has the silver metal plate and buttons, but has wooden like base instead of the plastic silver version that is everywhere on the internet. Where did you find that please? I love the looks 😍

[@simkool77]

Nice video, & I like the purple lighting. Fair comparison with the Niche... The SD40 cost is $249 USD. I already have a Lagom mini with 48mm burrs, although I've mostly been using my Comandante C40 for pour overs. Good info, but I'm happy with my current grinders.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

I don't think people make videos to get you to perpetually replace your grinder with the next one over and over again

[@simkool77]

@@veganpotterthevegan I did not think that was Lance's intent with this video. Based on what I saw, I concluded that Lagom mini is a better grinder for my purposes. I have watched coffee videos and ordered equipment based on the video. I doubt I'm the only one. 😃

[@Stevesbe]

The Ron Jeremy look is boss

[@dman4435]

Ordered the SD40 Version 2...... Looking forward to trying it out..... INterstesting that on the website it says RPM without beans is 600 and with beans is 400...... So a bit slower than you think but still higher.

[@Madskills-hw2ox]

SD40+ Well?

[@mexicanhalloween]

I can't believe you got Robert DeNiro in this

[@LanceHedrick]

He wasn't cheap but he delivered the part

[@Guips96]

Hey Lance, you should try to mod the SD40 to run on lower RPM, since you have the tools to measure the speed. A dimmer would probably work, depending on the type of motor.

[@JohnsonChiw]

Inverter might helps 🤔

[@LanceHedrick]

Dimmer will work but it'll lower torque. Maybe if I only lowered it 25 or so percent.

[@Guips96]

@@LanceHedrick Oh, that's true. I haven't thought about that

[@johncoleman1930]

So, if I'm understanding correctly, this grinder is better for espresso and not filter?

[@lastfour]

Hi Lance! Great new setup and great video, love your explanations. Im looking to upgrade my Timemore C2, I don't care about hand or electric grinder, do you think this could be an upgrade for me? Or need to look to other alternatives for only pour over? Thanks in advance!

[@8rafasimas]

If you intend do brew only por ouver and don't get bothered with hand grinding, I would suggest 1zpresso K-Plus / K-max

[@zeropuckprep]

Yeah the high speed is producing finer fines. My usual dose of 22g is impossible with the SD40. I pulled several shots and was super puzzled with that

[@michaelkuzmin]

There is a new version of this available from China that happens to have the exact improvements you wanted: the button is on the side and there are no steps

[@In_MT]

what's the SS machine to your left. It looks like one that is sold under many names : Mii Coffee Apex, Turin Legato. It seems feature packed for under $500 US. How did it perform in your tests?????

[@Christoph10]

Hello, great video, thank you very much. What would you say is it worth buying this mill or should you save a little more money and get the niche or a similar one, thank you very much in advance

[@maungnaing8584]

Hi Lance, great video. I was curious to see your thoughts on the sd40 vs the df64e/p and normal df64? I'm looking to move out of my hand grinder the knock aergrind and I like medium and light roasts and I'll mainly use it for espressos and lattes with my breville bambino plus. Thank you so much!

[@arnold91891]

At 2:06 you mention the RPM is 750 but on the linked page it says "RPM: Without beans 600, with beans 400". Were you measuring without beans?

[@matt-g-recovers]

I have a 75$ Amazon Sboly conical that I modified the faceplate so that it can go finer for espresso.

[@LanceHedrick]

Very nice! Love modifications. Good job!

[@normrubio]

Very critical on these two, what's your daily driver grinder?

[@cheekster777]

Thank you Lance. 🙏🏻

[@LanceHedrick]

Thank you!

[@AllanMelsen]

would this work well as a combo grinder, and using it to grind coffee beans for filter coffee also, or only espresso?

[@alexandrossimeonidis481]

To bad I cant order the Turin in Sweden, would fit my countertop like a glove

[@kencoleman5686]

As usual, excellent Lance, but you really aren't a Niche fan particularly at the current price, so it isn't something I would want to compare another product to. How competitors stack up to the DF64 would be more interesting to me.

[@LanceHedrick]

Df64 is completely different. Apples and oranges. Flat burrs vs conicals. The only real competitors are the sette and the niche as regards sub 1000 cone burr grinders. Currently I only have the niche. I can assure you that bias played no part in my double blind tastings lol