Best Budget Hammock // DIY Upgrades // Ridge Outdoor Gear Pinnacles

[@egregory348]

I tried to find one but none were available anywhere. I discovered the Onewind 11’ x 64” wide hammock with integrated bug net for around $70. I replaced the buckle suspension with woopie slings and added a sleaker adjustable ridge line. So far it has been fantastic.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

That's great!

[@gracefulonthetrail2244]

I was so happy when I watched your video and later saw that this is the same hammock I bought on Amazon a few months earlier! I’m brand new to hammock camping and was waiting for Spring to try it out. I slept in it the first time last night (first night in any hammock) and it was great! I’m so happy I made a good choice being a total newb and knowing nothing. I may try your modifications later when I’m more experienced and confident.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Right on! Enjoy it, and welcome to the world of hammocking!

[@calljoncall]

Just got my hammock yesterday. One thing that I did to get the same use as a double ended stuff sack was modify the bag it comes with. I removed the bag from the hammock. In the corner of that bag I opened the stitching about 1/2 of an inch. I sewed in a little stich at the end of the opening to stop it from continuing to open. This allows me to put the continuous loop through the little hole just like a double ended stuff sack.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Sweet! Nice work on that!

[@GatewoodBrown]

Great mods Mark! Seems like everyone has really been enjoying the pinnacle hammock.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Sounds like it! Thanks!

[@chipkk7868]

Hey Mark, I picked one of these up as a loaner hammock to friends who might want to try one. I did replace the ridge line and continuous loops and tried it out this weekend. What a great set up for just a few bucks. Had two friends who had never been in a hammock how tried it an both agreed that it was far more comfortable than they would have expected. Thanks for sharing the info on this great product.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thank you! For the price it's hard to beat!

[@backpackerdad6905]

Hey, I just checked the ridge outdoor gear web site and they now have incorporated some of the upgrades you did. Stuff-sack - open-ended and no longer sewn to the hammock. Ridgeline - dyneema equivalent UHMWPE 2mm diameter, 110 inches long. 570 lbs strength rating. Cool that they are adapting and the price is still $50.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I see that, they actually sent me the updated one to try out as well. Thanks!

[@dracphelan]

I just bought one based on this video and ordered the parts. I currently have a WBRR, and just do not like have to mess with the poles on it and how close the mesh is to my face. When I set up the Pinnacles in my backyard, at first I thought something was wrong. The bottom of the fabris was down to my knees before I got in. After I got in, it was about half an inch above the ground. I then remembered I needed to hang a regular hammock higher than my bridge hammock. I will be testing the Pinnacles out on the Cross Timbers trail in a week or two.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Yeah, I did the opposite when recently testing a new bridge, set it up way too high!

[@johnnymcfakename2551]

My WBRR came with shock cord locks and mitten hooks to clip the bugnet to the tarp ridgeline to pull it up and off your face and feet.

[@bumblebeehikes]

I changed the continuous loops and ridge line out on mine with amsteel ones. I haven't changed the stuff sack yet. What I did differently is I put on a better ridge line organizer. I also used the mesh bag that the Sawyer filter and squeeze bags came in and swapped it for the peak bag. It worked great since there is a little loop on the bottom of the mesh bag and gives me way more space for storage.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I considered swapping out the ridgeline organizer. Good work!

[@davidschmude]

Thanks for the video, Mark. I want one of these hammocks so bad to have as a spare for people who want to go with me but don’t have their own. They are out of stock on Amazon, though and have been for quite a while. I have a Dutchware Chameleon I use myself. But …. I’ll just keep watching and hope they come back in stock soon.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Keep watching, hopefully they have stock soon!

[@justinanderson1847]

I picked up this hammock after your first video. Have upgraded everything except the stuff sack. Was afraid to remove the seam. After watching this I’m going for it. Thanks for introducing the Ridge hammock, I love everything about the Chameleon and other cottage vendors but couldn’t justify the cost.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Go for it! Easy enough to do with just a small amount of patience!

[@utilityart]

I did the same mods (except stuff sack) before even hanging mine up. The bonus was they came from my old hammock so cost was $0 and put the other stuff on the other hammock to keep it usable for the kids. I’ve got in the habit of putting shoes/crocs in the center pocket for the inevitable middle of the night nature call. So that might stay as well.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Sweet, thanks!

[@thebandit7404]

Thanks for the review Mark! I picked one of these up last week and had a lot of fun splicing together new whoopies and an adjustable ridge line. Great value for the dollar but definitely needs the mods. I'm going to get one for the wife a do a super-affordable double hang set up with a spreader bar. Thanks again!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Sweet, well done! Thanks!

[@jeffmyers7062]

Nice use of the universal loops

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I love these things! The guy who came up with them is a pretty cool dude! ;) Thanks Jeff!

[@jeffmyers7062]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 sure thing

[@dennisdemarco1244]

DAMN IT BOY!! Was getting ready to pull the trigger on a DIY when your original vid came out. Immediately did all the mods, except the stuff sack (making one now). Probably spent three times the price on Dutch Bling! (oh well) Been doing the "Back Yard Camporee" since December and couldn't be happier! Thanks for the tip!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Did you catch our backyard camporee video? Might be entertaining!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

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[@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker]

Thanks Mark

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Very welcome!

[@alexwbanks70]

That is a great great setup and deal especially with your mods. If I didn't already have my Chameleon and my new Ridgerunner I'd buy one for sure.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

For someone wanting to get into hammocks, or just wanting to see what it's all about, this setup is almost a no brainer! Then do these mods and you've got a solid hammock for years of enjoyment! Thanks!

[@alexwbanks70]

It's pretty much the same setup as the Chameleon isn't it?

[@PacMan257]

This hammock sleeps great. Like you, I changed out the ridgeline right away. I haven't done the other mods yet but I will soon. One thing you didn't mention is that this hammock comes with a bug net peak bag to store the bug net in if you want to sleep without the net.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks!

[@Imightberiding]

Dude, if you tied the end off the old ridge line to the loop of the new one before you pulled that ridge line organizer off, you could have very easily pulled the new ridge line through it instead of struggling to thread it through by itself. Just a little tip for the next time you replace a ridge line. Cheers.

[@smkwhatsnext3411]

Glad to see you do a video on those mods and you have my EDC weapon of choice the provoke never leave home without it

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks, it's a handy little tool!

[@smkwhatsnext3411]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 fortunately I've never had to use mine

[@GrumpyGrunt]

I picked one up before the Holidays, after your first video on it, along with an inexpensive tarp. Total of $85 in the pair. 👍 Only been out in it a couple times so far (no UQ yet), but it's a nice kit. Once I figure out if/how a GE hammock will work for me, I will upgrade to something like a Sparrow or Chameleon. I am thinking of changing out to cinch buckles and straps though and I like the double-ended stuff sac option too. Bonus: You are the first person I have ever seen use a CRKT 'Provoke' for utility purpose. They are just fidget spinners for most people.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

That knife would be one hell of a tool in a fight! It's a cool knife, but yeah, most do use it as a fidgit spinner, til they lose a digit or two! Glad you got in on this and are enjoying it! Thanks!

[@closecaption2]

I own 4 of these hammocks. I bought two on Amazon and two more at Hangcon in FL. I upgraded the ridgeline right away. I have spent six nights in this hammock so far. Love it.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Awesome, glad you're getting out there!

[@denniskuenze659]

Good review. I just picked up one of those hammocks. I added a new ridge line and whoopee slings. That's about all the upgrades this hammock needs. Also got a bishop bag to store it.Great value for the price. It ranks right up there with most of the high end hammocks. Keep those video's coming.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks!

[@mikitta47]

The word you were looking for was Seam Ripper :p For manipulating cordage through fabric channels, get a long Afghan Crochet hook.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Miki Gain you are exactly right!

[@mikitta47]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 thanks fo a great video. Just changing out the continuous loops makes a world of difference in my opinion. I did that on my cheapy first hammock when i got a cinch buckle suspension. I actually did 1 15 and 1 8 inch CL. The longer loop has a dutch hook on it and the shorter CL is larksheaded on the cinch buckle. Ditching the heavy carabiners was great! Welcomd back to the states, and can't wait for your next video!

[@JasperJanssen]

I find fishing loops through works best with a 1 meter or more dogbone (or just, you know, piece of string.). Manipulating the rope through is easy when you can stretch the fabric out.

[@Jerryshipping12]

Great mods! Can’t wait to mod mine. You need to do a review of their tarp for the hammock.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I'll have to check out that tarp!

[@RideorDieDietoRide]

I bought 2 of their tarps. Also great merch.

[@joannekeefe426]

Oh wait! One more comment. My 3rd one! I would buy this hammock again if I had to start all over I would still buy this hammock. The length and width which I have compared to snug pack dd hammocks, Hennessey hammocks. Enough is frigin only nine feet long! Some of the others only ten! This beats the pants off the walmart hammock, eno, and the dimensions better than even these so called "special forces" snugpack! New hammock campers don't always think of that and get a hammock that's too small. Anyways I can't say anything wrong with this hammock I'm very happy to have it

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Agree, thanks for all of your feedback! I appreciate it!

[@MrBalas3]

Enjoyed many of your videos on all the various hammocks. At 6’4”@ 190 I’m concerned that this hammock may not be wide enough for me or is that not necessarily true? I see that Dutchware has a 12 ft @ 68” wide as well as Arrowhead Equipment and thinking I should maybe go that route. I know that Dream Hammocks can custom make a longer and wider one. Although, I do wonder how wide is really to wide cause than you have extra wasted fabric. I think the Shelltowee bugnet looks the best as far as keeping it off one’s face in the video that you made. So many choices and for someone who only goes out backpacking about 6 times a year have a hard time thinking about splurging for a Chameleon or Darien. On the flip side rather have something I’d really like and have no desire to have to upgrade. To many decisions. Help please 🙏. Currently own a 110”x 59” Hammock and a Amok Draumr XL.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I know quite a few people that are similar height to you that love an 11' hammock. I can get away with a 10.5' pretty easily, and actually kinda prefer it. I knew Dutch was starting to do some 12', and I have a tall friend who has a 12 footer that he had made a couple years ago and he loves it. If I was that tall I would probably give a longer hammock a try. 11' hammocks are pretty common and a lot of tall people are just fine in them. It's a tough choice, but I think you'd be happier with the extra length!

[@MrBalas3]

Spiguyver Backpacking Thanks for the prompt reply. Is 68” generally considered wide enough? I noticed on Dream Hammocks they suggested 72-74” for my height, but I tried my friends’ Eno double and at 74” wide seemed like a bit of loose fabric. Knotty mods that are offered on Dutch’s 12 footer creating kind of a foot box does that keep ones leg from sliding down the the hammock and keep one in the diagonal? Also, I tend to toss and turn at night and mainly side sleep would a symmetrical hammock make more sense? Appreciate your input

[@chrisxx012]

Looking to order the hammock one for me one for my son but how do we go about ordering those aftermarket parts you put on that particular in make? Would be nice for some links for those parts. Thank you always enjoy the videos keep up the work

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

You can get them all from Dutchware Gear. Thanks! I'll try to get some links added soon.

[@manuelzapata6737]

What tree straps are those? Ive found the continous loops but cannot find the straps that you use. Thanks!

[@garrycollins3415]

Nice video. I wish I could still sleep in a hammock.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Why can't you sleep in a hammock anymore?

[@garrycollins3415]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 I've had a broken pelvic sacroiliac joint (my mother said I was too small to play rugby, maybe she was right). My muscles held me together for 49 years but not so much anymore. That comfortable wrap around of a hammock now causes it all to separate. Painful. I need a firmer surface. I tried side sleeping on the Warbonnet Ridgerunner but cannot get comfortable.

[@frankieren8791]

Thank you for great informational video! 🥰I do have a silly question. What do they mean by designated head and foot end on a hammock? Have heard references, but don't fully understand significance. 🤔

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Sure, depending on how you have it built, where you place specific features, and even how you have the zippers installed, on some hammocks, because you lay in them diagonally, there is a dedicated head and foot end. Additionally, people generally find the foot end being hung a little higher is more comfortable, so if you have a way of telling which is which when you're setting it up, you can figure out how you want it oriented and hung.

[@frankieren8791]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 Thank you!😊

[@guylainedoucet9634]

you are a genius! Guylaine

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks! I appreciate that!

[@Orange_Tang]

Any way you could add some links to the pages your bought your addons? I know you say where for most of the stuff, but some of them like the double ended stuff sack on ebay it's hard to know which ones will fit right. Yours seems to be perfect so I'd love to buy the exact same one. And links are always convenient. Just a thought. Keep up the great work man, I love stuff like this.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

All of it can be purchased from Dutchware Gear, or Myerstech, but I will try to get some links up soon. Thanks!

[@harmonylight9760]

Just a update for you all. They added a double ended stuff sack. They also changed the ridgeline to a dyneema like one. But on the 180 I got you can not take the ridgeline off

[@rogerc7972]

I bet you sold a LOT of these hammocks - I bought one, and I love it

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks!

[@craigwoodley4484]

It's a shame they don't sell these anymore. Was stoked to buy one.

[@jewelweed6880]

I just bought one, it's arriving in a couple days. Sometimes a model gets scrapped, sometimes they just sell out.

[@ndettwiler]

Exact same mods I made to mine, though I have an adjustable ridgeline for now. I sleep in mine every night.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Awesome stuff man! Do you adjust the ridgeline much? What length have you found to give you the most comfort?

[@ndettwiler]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 I was running it quite short, at ~98", and I couldn't escape knee pain. I went back to 109.5" and all is good again. Though my hammock is too high off of the floor because the wall anchors have to be high on the walls.

[@Joespower]

I bought this hammock on your (and others) recommendation. My reasoning is, if your going to spend your money on something and not skimp, do it on quilts! They're so expensive, there's not really a good way to go cheap on them, and they're so necessary that you really don't want to. So, if you have to make an investment to get started, buy the cheaper hammock, and get the good quilts.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Quilts are not cheap, good call!

[@stebesplace]

I agree with this 100%. So long as the cheaper hammock is made of a durable material and at the length you need, you’ll benefit from the investment in other things like your quilt setup.

[@remyllebeau77]

I bought two down blankets from Costco for around $50, you can modify them yourself if you don't mind a bit of DIY to make them into an UQ or they work pretty good as a top quilt as they are. Just don't expect them to do better than about 50 degrees F.

[@j.k.7595]

Do you have a parts list available? Great video!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thanks, I'll work on getting links up!

[@zachlough4913]

Do you happen to know what year the model in this video is? When I checked on amazon they have this new "updated for 2019" model but it says the item weight is 2.5 lbs which seems a bit heavier than the weight you recorded

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I have the updated version. The weight includes the tree straps and the caribiners that come with it.

[@jonathanmoore8325]

Great video! I can’t seem to find the double sided stuff sack on eBay. I’d be interested in getting one.

[@thebandit7404]

Jonathan Moore You can get one from Dutchwaregear.com for $8.50 US

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I second what the bandit said!

[@jonathanmoore8325]

Thanks!

[@thriftysurvivor6117]

Is the bug net fine enough to keep chiggers (noseeums) out?

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Yeah it's the same type bugnet you see on just about all tents and hammocks.

[@chipkormas2840]

So now that you have a great budget hammock and have made some killer mods, what tarp and it's set up would you recommend to match up with it?

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Honestly, I love my dcf tarps. I'd spend the money and go that route! I don't want to go cheap when it comes to rain protection, getting your sleep system wet is not going to be a good thing.

[@chipkormas2840]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 thanks sir, I will look at those

[@bereantrb]

As of 09/2020 the ridgeline is now made of UHMWPE.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Yup, they sent me the updated on to look at.

[@bwacek]

Have you taken a look at their listing on Amazon recently? They released an updated version with most of the upgrades you specified mentioned already done to it. Of course, it increased the price, but it's only $65 - still a huge bargain. I think this company needs to be commended for actually listening to customers, and doing so quickly!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I have, they actually just sent me one the other day to check out!

[@bwacek]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 Very cool! Are you planning on doing a video follow up? I'm curious to your thoughts on it. After seeing your video on upgrade I bought one and did it, considering buying a bunch of these updated ones for a Boy Scout Troop. I think they should have called this one the Spiguyver Edition or something in appreciation for you.

[@joannekeefe426]

Oh wait addendum to my last comment. The hammock is sort of an olive drab which I consider camo!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Cool

[@chrisxx012]

I have been checking on this hammock from time to time and guess what they're in now so I ordered two of them one for me and one for my son and I am looking to do the mods that you did to this hammock. Just have to figure out where you got all your pieces from. One other question why do you sleep Head Right feet left?

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

They did a new design and incorporated my upgrades. You should lay diagonal in a hammock in order to get the most comfortable lay. That direction just feels more natural to me.

[@JasperJanssen]

Spiguyver Backpacking are you by any chance a leftie? I feel a little more natural the other way, and I wonder if it’s because with head left my dominant arm is freeer than the other way around.

[@chrisxx012]

Sorry another question do you put your foot end 2 or 3 in higher didn't your heading?

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Yeah, depending on the hammock between a couple inches and 6 inches. Thanks!

[@chrisxx012]

They have made several changes 1 is he better bug net 2 no bag on the side is now a double-stuffed in 3 it is now a substitute of amsteel 4 the Ridgeline. Just found a video on the new one. If you look up Bob Amos as a video on the new items and updates on the hammock.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

They sent me the new one to try out as well. Thanks!

[@drugtalk101]

It’s supposed to be the exact same as Hope it came so it doesn’t rip the netting... you could go shorter but it’s 9’ exactly

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Cool deal!

[@SG-vk4cq]

What size stuff sack? Regular Double ended from Dutchware? Just curious. Thanks

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Regular one from Dutch is perfect.

[@SG-vk4cq]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 Thanks!

[@PamelaWanderingOff]

I can't turn the volume up until I get home because my headphones are busted and I am at a brewery (then again, everyone is drinking, who cares!). Have you seen Bob Amos' upgrades/mods to his? Oy. I have a project waiting for me this weekend! I am taking this on the AT.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

I haven't, I'll have to see if I can find it. Thanks!

[@PamelaWanderingOff]

Spiguyver Backpacking I did the mod yesterday. Went great! Thanks! Taking it on my AT thru-attempt in 3 weeks.

[@ivargasbushcrafts]

Great vid. Would have been helpful to put links to get the items for the upgrade! :)

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

You can get all of them from several sources, the easiest being Dutchware Gear.

[@Lapeerphoto]

Welcome back to the home of the free! 😁

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Thank you, good to be home, for a bit anyway!

[@xxgg]

Geez, tell them to sell it on Amazon CANADA too please. People up here too. ;)

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

If I could! Thanks!

[@Inquisitive-Badger]

Right! So sad our selection is terrible and the prices are crazy

[@remyllebeau77]

I bought mine for about $50, but FYI for people, it now costs about $65 on Amazon. Still not a bad deal I would say. EDIT: It appears that they upgraded to the open ended stuff sack improvement unless you go with the net-less version. Also they seem to have upgraded to a "UHMWPE dyneema equivalent 2mm 110in ridgline" And if you only buy the "180 half zipper" version that won't allow you to remove the bug net completely, it is still about $50. As of 8-30-2020

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

They took some of the upgrade ideas I did in that video and put them into their production version, so I'd say that it's still the best deal out there.

[@remyllebeau77]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 Yes, I edited my post to include the upgrades. It's pretty cool that the company is willing to take criticism and make upgrades.

[@kinglonestar2760]

Hey Rainman...quit bangin on the table. Mark’s tryna make a video, bro.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

He apologizes!

[@Inquisitive-Badger]

Hey guys just shouting out from Canada here! It's unavailable for us up north. Was wondering if anyone in the community is open to helping a fellow hammocker out! Thanks and hope everyone is staying safe!

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Hey Luis, what are you looking for?

[@Inquisitive-Badger]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 been a hot minute due too the global situation. Was trying to get Amsteel and hammock but shipping duties and border being closed kiboshed all that as I'm located in Canada. I finally got a decent hammock but had a few questions. I made an adjustable Ridgeline due to set up need to use it carabiner to Carabiner is %83 that distance still considered good or should it still be only %83 of my hammock length? Also I got 1.8mm zingit type rope and can't figure out how to make a continuous loop adjustable Ridgeline on it. Hope your well. Jealous of all your options you get for equipment down there

[@chrisxx012]

If you could hook me up with those links to get all those parts I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Dutchware Gear is the company that I got all the stuff from. But wait until yours arrives and look at it, they have changed them and incorporated a lot of the things I mentioned!

[@Panda-uh3zy]

The ridge lay-flat pinnacle hammock appears to be out of stock

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

Too many people buying it!

[@Panda-uh3zy]

@@SpiguyverBackpacking1 its back in stock for back order and ships in few days

[@MrPickl78]

Man I thought this was gonna be a Mark learns how to splice video..... :P

[@SpiguyverBackpacking1]

No Chris, I leave that to people who are talented at this stuff!