Best Budget Reel Review Catfish Sumo vs Piscifun Chaos XS vs Kastking Rover

[@andykjohnsonjohnson7622]

Nice review Josh 👌. I strip down all of my newly published reels, clean them out ( get rid of the sub/standard lubricant. And us Molybdenum grease, it's like butter 🤪😜

[@davidmerry5280]

not real familiar with sumo but i have two piscifun for a year now and for the price point i think they are unbeatable.

[@mikecha1957]

Great job on this comparison my friend . I have those Kastking and the Piscifun reels, they are ok for the price but I'm an Abu guy for sure.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks Mike Im an abu guy as well. For a budget reel that piscifun seems to be an animal though put 3 of em through allot this year no issues yet.

[@chepachii]

How are you going mate.I have done some research and pretty sure the Kastking ,Sumo are made in the same Chinese factory that produces the Sougayliang reels.In fact Sougayliang also make one branded under their own name the XLT 40 ,50 and 60.Internally exactly the same as the Sumo and Rover you showed in your clip.Probaly a bit better because the drag knob and handle are bent inward more ergonically like the new Abu C3.The Chaos is made in another factory, is built with better gearing and isn't held together by those real cheap and nasty C clips.Where the others have gone down the path of trying to skimp with the cheapest possible components,the Piscifun although not perfect has at least made an effort to make the reel smoother and added design upgrades to enhance the reel,or same worm guide clip as ABu not some .5 Of a cent C clip, better,smoother gearing ,superior level wind system,handle ,finish and bearings.I own both and have used stripped,serviced them from top to bottom and have based my evaluation on this, my conclusion is for a budget reel the Chaos all the way .Cheers from Australia and love your channel bro.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

That was a great informative comment. Thanks for watching

[@raymondamoroso2049]

Thanks for uploading such great content. I went with some piscifun chaos reels after this video showed your used ones keeping up cast-wise. Thanks a million!

[@kunaiwithchain5278]

how well is the piscifun chaos holding up over time?

[@eugenegress5896]

Kastking has exceptional Customer Service. They are great Value for the price. For the person who just fishes , whenever they can get out, You cant Beat Kastking for value. Most Reel Companies Refuse to offer Left hand Crank on open face , or line counter Reels. Okuma and Kast King do.

[@yx2k747]

Mom and daughter here started fishing at a local park. Last night my 72yrs young mom caught 32inch catfish and almost broke her rod. What rod and reel do you recommend. Anything not too heavy but strong. She wants to catch 30lb catfish.

[@Yelladog78]

Meat Hunter, best bang for the buck

[@gregrandolph7601]

Good job pal. I'm just gonna stick with the 6500's they have never let me down in 20 years.

[@samkesit6638]

piscifun chaos xs 50 was put on a cheap big game rod from walmart still cast bout 70-80 yards

[@pardiesel7474]

I run the same setup and have no complaints!

[@Nutintoitbut2doit]

Great Video. help a lot. did you do or can you do one on the whisker seekers new reels?

[@garyarthur4586]

Thank you for putting out a video for people like that has a limited budget to buy reels

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks for watching

[@Qartveloba3659]

Hello, every throw of the barad. gets tangled catastrophically, threw the braid 3 times. why is this happening? please help, i bought it on amazon for $55 how to stick neodymium magnets on a multiplier CastKingRover 50? i have neodymium magnets but are they big? Didn't understand

[@gregg9768]

I purchased a Kastking Rover 40L for myself and a 40R for my fishing buddy last year. Both reels worked well last year but this year fishing line somehow went through the side of the spool and wrapped around the spool post. This happened on both models. The outside cover had to be removed to untwist the line around the post. This may be a design flaw. Beside this issue the reel works well but because of this issue happening with both the 40 R and 40 L, I would not recommend the Rover 40 model.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

That happened to mine after some use as well. If you liked the rover wait till you try the piscifun chaos it's cheaper and way smoother then a rover cast better too

[@socialism.is.murder]

There is an adjustment knob on the side to bring the reel into alignment to prevent this from happening. Good luck.

[@user-unji5h2k3nw69]

tks... bro.. but I want to question Which reel is suitable for snakehead fishing? Kastking rover 50 vs Piscifun chaos 50

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I have never fished for one we do not have any around here I would imagine either would work.

[@jhh243]

Great video! I was really looking at the sumo bc of their great marketing but facts are facts. I appreciate you explaining their “lifetime warranty”. Thats not a lifetime warranty and that is not what people expect when they hear the term lifetime warranty. Thats more like an insurance claim

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks for watching John Hope ya have a great day

[@SLANT2o9]

Thanks for the video! Pretty interesting to see distance between the reels and the teardown on each one

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks for watching

[@93tjfresh]

I’m new to salt water fishing . I have been using open face reels for in shore fishing . Would you suggest these for fishing off the beach . I always assumed these reels were for deep water fishing .

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I can cast quite a bit farther with a casting reel so I'm my opinion yes but it all comes down to personal preference

[@raymondamoroso2049]

I noticed the 50 & 60 have the same power handle, Can you offset it from the middle so you turn bigger revolutions, or would you have to buy a new one all together?

[@CT15MK18]

I have the Piscifun Chaos xs40 and love it

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Cant beat em for the price.

[@CHUNKYCATSFISHING]

This was a great video thank you for posting and sharing my friend

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank ya sir

[@PalmettoCats]

Excellent video my friend. I have all three. For price, you can’t the kast king or pfun

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Agreed on that one.

[@dboyMMA7100]

Both will hit the shitter in 2 yrs. Junk!!!

[@Herkyismyhomeboy]

Great content. I really appreciate the head to head comparison you provided in the video today.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank you very much

[@rfdsrd]

Hard to beat the Pissyfun Chaos XS 5000 for turning into a CT reel for greater distance than a level wind CS reel, and the Chaos XS 60 left as a CS because the level wind has a roller bearing and allows me to rocket lead out to 100yds. Also, the PF Alijoz 400 and 300 are superb quality reels that are far and away built and work better than any Abu to date, and I've had dozens of Abu reels over the last 6 decades or so. Heck, I've caught sandbar sharks with one of my Ali 400 reels, loaded with 25lb Sakuma mainline mono to 80lb Sufix Superior shock leader mono using a short length of 25lb braid to join both mono lines using FG knots so all the line will easily run thru the level wind guide and rod guides. Also used the Chaos 60 for big sharks using 30lb braid to 100lb mono shock leader. All shark rigs use solid steel bite leaders and 5/0 to 12/0 circle hooks.

[@martintaylor984]

Are the bearing the same? Or are They different manufacturers? Are materials the same? There are about 10k different types of aluminum. I mean you can’t say they are the same without knowing all this info

[@TBFISHING21]

Congrats on 8k awesome video content also

[@crazycarl6922]

After watching ur videos on the piscifun reels I went and bought the 50 for musky not much of a catfishermen but i have got a few nice one out the St croix river but i also subscribed to ur Chanel

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank you for subscribing I appreciate it. I still have several of them and there still holding up well for me

[@yx2k747]

Oh and easy casting too please. She's horrible at casting but for some reason big fishes keep coming to her🤔. I want to give her a nice mother's day giant catfish friendly Fishing pole and reel.

[@chrisjones2438]

Just found your channel not to bad can't wait see what else

[@jenbilbrey1089]

Why are the Swiss abus made so much better than the ones that Abby provides us in the states. Or should I say that are made in the United States?

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

The Swiss made can be purchased here. The ones that are not Swiss made I believe are made in China I'm not aware of any being made in the states but I could be wrong

[@redneckcatfishing]

Do you think the piscifun chaos is good for big catfish?

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I haven't had any issues with mine don't see any reasons why it wouldn't bring em in

[@redneckcatfishing]

@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 Ok thx i been needing some new reels and was looking at them what would you recommend

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

@@redneckcatfishing I like the 50 size it's similar to the size of an Abu Garcia 6500. If you wanna save some money you can use my code on there website CCBT18 and you will get 18 percent off and free shipping works on every item they carry

[@daves485]

That’s what she said” ahhhh I’m a little slow but just caught that! 😂

[@retiredoldsarge5938]

This is two years later... How about adding in a Abu Garcia 6500 or 7000 into the review for us. I have been debating mostly between a Abu and Kast King but not real happy with a couple Spin casters I got from KK.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I have a video comparing the chaos xs side by side against the Abu Garcia pro rocket 6500. I have had about all of them. The chaos is cheaper then the kast king and it's way smoother and casts farther.

[@davidmeyersick4080]

My catfish sumo reel came to me not able to real amd grindy. It was bs. I loved the feel of it and the look but i tr8ed to make it reel in braid and even with no line it stopped reeling. It was shipped to me broken and I was afraid to reorder it. Sent it back. Hope the gearing in reels stop being Crap

[@oinc7320]

Was just about going to buy a KastKing , just switching over from fly fishing as can't travel to flyfishing water, live near salt water..

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

according to the chaos title on piscifun website they say its withstands saltwater. You may want to contact them to see. If so in my opinion I would def get it over the kastking. Thanks for watching

[@bogragg8779]

Thanks for all the great work info I was looking for cheaper reels can’t afford rockets

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks for watching if your in a budget there a link in the video description for the chaos xs highly recommend it.

[@samkesit6638]

just got one today and got to fish for few hrs and its did everything in more and i use 30lb mono line

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Nice

[@dannydnice1]

Was waiting for the piscifun brake down as well.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

No need to wait I have a video uploaded where I take it apart and compare it to a Abu garcia rocket

[@Gokywildcats11]

What's your choice of the 3

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Chaos cheapest one and works the best

[@Gokywildcats11]

40_50_or 60 chaos reel

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

@@Gokywildcats11 I like the 50 the best. Go through my channel I have a video comparing all 3

[@ethancostello9473]

Hey I’m new to baitcaster can you make a video on how to cast this one pls I’m thinking of buying it but I don’t know how to cast it

[@scottd8555]

Do you prefer the piscifun over the kastking?

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Definitely.

[@Michael-qc8ry]

Thanks for the videos and the giveaways !

[@stevensandoval2218]

So how far can you get with the kastking?

[@mikekoch1966]

got 1 coming in the mail. the chaos 60

[@thevernonposse]

I love the brass worm gear cog hard to find

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

I'm just grabbing the PENN Rival or Squall 2 w/ the 6'6" or 7" Rod Combo from Academy for less than $200

[@theloneangler3320]

That KastKing Rover is a beast...love it

[@stevensandoval2218]

What kind of distance you getting out of it?

[@iwantosavemoney]

Man am looking for some budget reels but I use to have a bunch of ABU stuff but we’ll I got relieved of all of them time to build back but the plastic release thumb button I don’t know if I can get behind that

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Abu Garcia c4 has a plastic thumb button. I'm not sure I've seen a metal one myself on any Reel but sure why you would need it

[@dannys4e617]

Cool video! Those reels are out of my price range

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

They add up real quick. Thanks for watching

[@mikesoutdoorsandadventures363]

I'm curious if anyone has used a millionaire 4hm fishing reels for catfishing? I understand it's a cheap Chinese reel but it's actually bigger then my garcia 5600. Like I'm just curious.. Awesome video and I definitely appreciate the information in this video.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thanks for watching I've used the diawa millionaire the one with the clicker on the front. I may buy another and do a video on it.

[@mikesoutdoorsandadventures363]

Very cool I greatly appreciate it. I believe I'm going to go ahead and set mine up for an emergency back up

[@charles8134]

I bought the KastKing Rover 50 I love the reel but have had issues with the line getting stuck in between the spool and the housing. The knob on the left with the numbers does not seem to adjust the tension on mine the knob will just keeping turning past the numbers 1-9. I have to use both knobs to center the spool. I did remove the line guide which helped a lot with casting. I just spooled up with Berkeley big game 40lb mono hoping the bigger line will not get caught between the spool and housing. Any tips for my problem or what I’m doing wrong would be much appreciated.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I had the same problem with the line going behind the spool on a jar I king as well. The numbers on the side are a guide. If you look at the tension knob it looks like a little arrow head on it. So if you set your reel up to throw 4 ounces of weight look and see what number the arrow is pointing at. Then you could set it up for 1 ounce and again look at what number it's pointing at after dialed in. So if it was pointed at a 6 for four ounces next time you throw four ounces turn the knob so the arrow is pointing at the 6 if that makes sense. I never use those numbers for anything myself i don't believe anyone does really

[@socialism.is.murder]

The side with the handle and drag adjustment knob also has an adjustment for the reel alignment also. If you give it a few spins it will close the gap and align the reel for you. Good luck.

[@Frenchbroadcatman.]

What bout the kastking lol. Mine cast much farther than that if I wanna push it

[@DrTaco3938]

You are underrated!! Amazing video.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

thank you I appreciate it

[@mauricecason5369]

Nice budget reels I tried the kastking it's a decent reel for the price

[@jimfitzgerald9761]

I have 2 of these and 2 Abu 6600 C4, I need another reel!

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I just sold 3 like new 6600 c4 good reels

[@scruffy7443]

Gee, I wonder what Kastking thinks of the Catfish sumo's similarities, looks like a Alibaba express knock offs lol

[@panchopachangas4450]

It’s the same thing Kast King is doing. They both just have their logo and color added to some reels made in the same warehouse.

[@bobbynewton9247]

Good video man thanks for sharing

[@daves485]

What happened to the chaos?

[@addxgordophillips9941]

Kast king junk sumo kat junk A.M. junk .tge picisfun the vestbout of these reels . I got videos of these reels messing up there just junk great video

[@YoTrickWTFHOE]

That's what she said

[@knight5188]

Can someone explain to me why the kastking rover has a spool tensioner knob on both sides of the reel? I’ve only ever had reels with just 1 knob... 🤔 Or is that not what it is?

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Yes the way it's set up it uses two knobs to center the spool.

[@knight5188]

@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 thanks for the feed back I’m a rookie. But that’s awesome to have

[@socialism.is.murder]

Kastking has a KZbin video explaining this reel. It is very helpful. Even helps with understanding how to use the numbers on the side.

[@deanmiller6177]

The KastKing Rover atleast has brass gears that will last where the Picifun Chaos doesn't and they will strip

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

I'll kindly disagree Abu Garcia uses plastic cog wheels as well never had one strip on any reel I've owned with a plastic one now I have had cheaper reels with metal gears strip some are not created equal some are more like a pot metal and it strips easily.

[@deanmiller6177]

​​​@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 I ordered a Piscifun Chaos 50 from Amazon as well as the KastKing Rover,took both fishing a few days ago to Navarre Beach Pier in Florida,set both up with live bait using 30lb braid with 80lb flurocarbon leader,4oz sinker and 7/0 C hooks.hooked a King Mackerel on the Piscifun and within minutes the Picifun failed.Hooked a 75lb tarpon on the Kastking Rover and it worked flawlessly.

[@aswriterbrand]

Your videos are great

[@rahulbannerjee4845]

Nice reels

[@Somewhereoverheremaybe]

That sure is a nice one

[@kennymcree7600]

Good vid bro!!!

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank you

[@stevemitchell7638]

Thanks for the video

[@matthewjackson2853]

I thought the same thing. Man that sumo sure looks like my rovers. Btw the piscifun is a lews.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

You are correct sir Ill probably do a video on that this winter as well. Only difference is the chaos is about $40 cheaper.

[@matthewjackson2853]

@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 it's not the laser but the more expensive one if i recall

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

@@matthewjackson2853 Yes thats correct its the more expensive one its aroun $100 from Lews I believe. May have to do a comparison vid for the winter time. I heard the cheaper lews round reel was similar to a kastking but I have never owned the silver one. May be a good vid to do as well.

[@matthewjackson2853]

@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 no point in doing any more 2 knob round reels. They're all the same apart from abu and.. That one abu spin off company that i can't remember. Try the old penn 9m. Some say it can cast incredibly. Some say no. I don't think it even has bearings which is interesting.

[@terrymcclendon2277]

@@matthewjackson2853 the penn model 9 m is a great reel been fishing 4 if them for 15 years!

[@bigdawg9716]

Great video

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank you

[@randylacks645]

Sumo would look good on my Slimecat 8 xmh rod

[@zipchtkdn7804]

I like to have the sumo

[@goofey1]

Assemble them together intermingling parts

[@ernestt881]

thankyou

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Thank you for watching

[@williamseeber695]

i just bought a catfish sumo rod and it was junk returned it the verry next day thru amazon will.not buy anything catfish sumo

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Sorry to hear

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

Normally the Thumb Button & Worm Gear go 1st

[@dwayneworkman859]

The second cast sounded like a bird nest

[@elijahowens8507]

Where's the comments?

[@707SonomaComa]

Darn, I thought you were going to tear down the Piscifun too and compare them all together.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

@@707SonomaComa I have videos of tear downs on the piscifun

[@707SonomaComa]

@@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309 yea, those are fantastic. You have very informative videos. Entertainment and education all in one. Than you forvall of those. I've been seeing Albatross reels on my feed lately, do you have any experience with those?

[@stephencorleymississippili4007]

I’ve often thought that the Chinese reels were the same. All the companies do is order them with company specific colors and logos.

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

Most of them are the same just a different paint job.

[@jarekziedarski7391]

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[@thejim3501]

Just get an Abu ambassador. 😁

[@stevothefisherman7606]

Like

[@wstewart5532]

Great job CatfishSumo ripping off your customers!

[@vonvomit5666]

Your testing is skewed. First of you start reeling after casting. Even though you walked after you began reeling in line, your sinker could have moved. Second, the piece of shyte er I mean puscipoop is not the reel you want to be wasting any money even if it is cheap. I have used pos equipment, and if you are after big fish, you do not want one on your rod with that reel. Third, kast king maybe the donor to the cloned catfish sumo but trust me...that reel and the catfish sumo I would take hands down over that pos piece of poop called puscifun. Of you want a something casting reel that does not break the bank and has great performance get yourself the Abu Carcia catfish reel for $179.00. Another one I recommend is shakespear round fishing reel with or without line counter. The only down side to the catfish sumo reel is the casting switch. Yes it does feel a little loose. But it performs alright from what I have seen.

[@martinmullins280]

😂

[@rider660r]

All these off-brand reels are all around total garbage.They're all most likely made in the same chinese factory. I have tested them looking for better deals myself,after fishing for nearly 40 yrs,there is no substitute for name brand reels...even their cheaper models.Name brands,are built better,out of better materials,have much better QC,cast much better,reel smoothly,etc. than even the highly overpriced expensive models of those off brands. It is better to buy 1 name brand compared to 2 or even 3 of the cheaper off brands.Other than the name brands having better QC,materials,etc. they also are easier to locate repair or upgrade parts if so needed. People need to stop wasting their $ on these garbage reels and save just a little longer,your wallet will thank you in the long run.I have reels that I still use that I bought in the 80's and early 90's,reels like Quantum Iron IR3,IR3WL for one example are tanks and still reeling in fish and never had a problem with them.My favorite reels are the Shimano Corvalus 401 due to the spool release,they're now 5? yrs old and have brought in a few 1000 fish already,I fish 4-6days/wk for the last 10 yrs alone.I tear down all my reels once a year (winter) to clean and lube. One brand not listed in the description is Okuma.They're probably the top off brand but they are also garbage,I have a couple that I bought at the wrong time and wasn't able to fish right away.After using them a while they were out of warranty and are now nothing but paperweights collecting dust,they're not even worth locating parts for. Stick with your brand names like Shimano,Daiwa,Penn,and Abu if you really want to save money.

[@dboyMMA7100]

All of these reels are crap. All made in China in the same plant more than likely. You are a fool if you pay 109.99 for a rebranded sougayilang! Spend that money on a used ABU!!!

[@blackdeath5026]

All these reels are made in china on the same press, even Lews if you didnt know

[@carpandcatfishbaitstipstri7309]

@blackdeath5026 yes they are the lews and Chaos are nearly identical. Kast king and sumo are nearly the same as well.