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[@RH-qk5lt]

The level wind on a Rover 70 has caught big AJ's, Red snapper and red grouper the past 3 yrs with zero problems. If you like a level wind... keep it on a Rover. They're tough. They're Not like other LW reels.

[@basskickersoutdoors5594]

Did the same just wanted a cheaper reel for a back up. Bull's tend to beat reels up pretty good lol. But I put the backing and braid on first before I took the level wind off it makes life a little easier 😅.

[@chrismcvey908]

Again, nice video Kevin. You're always such a resourceful dude

[@CattermanAdventures]

Thanks Chris!

[@peter56019]

Love the video I just got my rover 70 and did the adjustment. Can't wait to take it out on the boat to catch some yellowtail. Thank you all the way from southern cali 👍🐟.

[@CattermanAdventures]

ISAHI #34 No, thank YOU dawg!!! 💪 let me know how you do! Good luck!

[@ELCAPITAN7157]

Nice vid bro! I'm gonna go get one now for my surf sharking trips. I've been helping tag blacktips all summer.

[@CattermanAdventures]

Keith McPherson You're gonna love it man! I'd go with the 70 for surfcasting. I'm looking at getting a tagging package myself soon, pretty awesome that you're helping out.

[@joshcamacho7955]

I just got my rover 80.!and this is the first thing I did to it💪🏽🤟🏽right on .!

[@CattermanAdventures]

Josh Camacho LOVE IT!!!

[@Nathan-wn5mc]

Did you notice any differences?

[@250smacks]

Just ordered one from Amazon, I can’t cast a bait caster to save my life but I’ll just be trolling for big cats off the kayak. I can’t wait!

[@Marissa16073]

Is there a way to adjust the line out tension when tightlining?

[@mikemccandless9662]

Great video man

[@CattermanAdventures]

Mike McCandless Thanks brosalita!

[@daletann5398]

Ok awesome knowledge,now,how does this affect casting and retrieving,will the line come in,on one spot or level?

[@PNutOutdoors]

Does the level-wind disengage when in free-spool? I don’t see the need to do this if it’s synced. Especially with metal line guides. My old Okuma CLX has synchronized-wind and it held up just fine in deep sea because the line was never too far off the guide to put enough pressure to break it.

[@jeffreybabino8161]

Good surf and pier reel

[@gabriellicano1327]

How exactly do I spool the rover 90 after making it big game ready

[@truckingwithnose]

How does the line even out when reeling it in does it go on just in the middle

[@robertskudera3105]

Big Game!!!!!

[@CattermanAdventures]

Robert Skudera yeahhhh boiiii!!!

[@jimpresley-oldfishingfool261]

When I fish big baits for big fish I want a Shimano TLD 50 with 2 Speed or a Penn Squall 2 Speed at minnimum but feel better with an Avet 80W 2 Speed these reels have the power and linebcapacity for the real beasts

[@jimmywilson1388]

I’m not a saltwater fisherman except for when I go on vacation but wouldn’t the line just bunch up right in the center of the spool? I’m not making a judgement, just curious…

[@jbulls97able]

You have to thumb the line back and forth evenly while your reeling in. It becomes second nature once you've done it for a while.

[@nodoubt46able]

it really does, youll never even think about it after a while@@jbulls97able

[@niwrad84]

Very informative

[@CattermanAdventures]

darwin lustado thanks Darwin!

[@brittanyjeffrandolph7497]

@@CattermanAdventures Hey Kevin I got a few kastking Rover 60 how much would you charge to upgrade and clean my reels if I ship to you I just ain't good at teardown enough to try myself thank you!

[@natagio3659]

Hello, every throw of the barad. gets tangled catastrophically, threw the braid 3 times. why is this happening? please help, i bought it on amazon for $55 how to stick neodymium magnets on a multiplier CastKingRover 50? i have neodymium magnets but are they big? Didn't understand

[@bestfishmen8188]

Can I use the 70 for both freshwater and saltwater? Also what rod would you recommend to pair with this, I have heard it pairs nicely with the Berkley big game 7ft casting rod.

[@CattermanAdventures]

It probably would be good with that. Could also look into some stout surf rods, or 7'6" MH/H rods. These reels do fine in both so long as you wash them off after every salt use. Also, be careful of getting any sand into the levelwind if you choose to keep it on and bring it to the ocean.

[@PONDRIVERBOYS]

Wouldnt the line be one sided? Or do you gotta manualy guide the line from left to right?

[@CattermanAdventures]

BIG JACK OUTDOORS Hey brother, good point! I should've mentioned this in the video. Since it is now a conventional you DO have to guide it with your thumb. I will make a video on that too

[@donsolanoangler1854]

Great idea men, planning to buy rover 90 for jigging, have you tried it?

[@CattermanAdventures]

I have not and wouldn't... It's too big and bulky. I would instead go for a budget Tica, Finnor, or perhaps a CameKoon lever drag reel.

[@07Kimo07]

I just got my Rover 80 and currently using it for bottom fishing in the California waters. I will leave it there until I start going for Yellowtail or Yellowfin Tuna in the summer. Thanks for the video, it's very informative.

[@CattermanAdventures]

Glad to have helped!

[@07Kimo07]

@@CattermanAdventures I double checked the max drag for the 80/90 models and it is listed for 30 lb and not 20 lb per Kastking website. If 20, might not be enough for yellowtail and small to medium sized tuna.

[@jeffreybabino8161]

Hi what size reel is that I have a rover 60

[@PJ-si2po]

I have 2 309 Pen Reels since more than 25 years and broke only one time one level winder on one of my reels, the sand is the enemy of level winders if you can keep them away from sand and dust and lubricate them once a year they will last a long Time

[@CattermanAdventures]

True that man. Glad to hear they're still working, and appreciate your input.

[@davidfbarton5]

Hi Kevin. Nice vid. Where can I get an aftermarket power handle that would fit a Rover 40? I like the reel a lot but the handle pads have come off two times... once with the original reel and once with a replacement they sent. Love the reel... don't like the handle. Thanks!

[@CattermanAdventures]

Thanks for the love David! Sorry to hear about your handle. Did we send you the grey power handle, or the two black knobbed one? If you're looking for the grey one like in the picture, I can send you a link for that shortly.

[@davidfbarton5]

KK sent me the 2 black knobbed one as a replacement and it failed on the first fish, a 5 lb carp. I am interested in the grey one as it looks quite sturdy. With aftermarket replacements, there is always concern about specs/size/tolerance. Thanks!

[@davidfbarton5]

Please send link for grey one. Thanks

[@CattermanAdventures]

David Barton absolutely. Below is the link, just follow the directions in the description (for ex: Rover grey power handle) and you should be all set www.kastking.com/kastking-reel-parts_p0205.html

[@bennyrosado5402]

can this be done on a penn GTI 330? by the way i just ordered my kastking!!! thanks for the info!

[@CattermanAdventures]

Benny Rosado Glad I could help you out bud! I believe you can do this to most levelwinds since they're pretty much all built the same. I'd check the product manual for the same parts, then go ahead and do the service. :)

[@bennyrosado5402]

cool, thx much dude!!!

[@anthoncasenello9043]

I like kastking brand specially rover, but I need advice guys if I buy rover 60,70,80 or 90 what is Rod match for rover reel baitcasting

[@jacobrobertson8040]

I've got the kastking rover 70 I pur it on a ripping lips 7'6 medium heavy rod an its truly been awesome. I highly recommend Ripping lips

[@anthoncasenello9043]

@@jacobrobertson8040 thank you bro for you recommend,

[@Skyline-hu3zg]

Is the rover good for surf fishing? casting performance?

[@CattermanAdventures]

Not great casting, ok for kayaking out baits. Really it's way too slow and underpowered to truly be used for bigger game species.

[@Josue-rd5gt]

Nice! Now if only Kastking could make a drone for taking the bait out into the surf🤔

[@CattermanAdventures]

Josue De LA Garza 😂😂 the KastDrone... Dang that actually sounds pretty great eh?

[@keatingconroy7372]

Came to get the review so I can create a Drone rig. Any phantom series works. Just watch your airspace!

[@Daniel-tk1vo]

Is there a major difference to cast really long distances with and without levelwind?

[@CattermanAdventures]

Hey Sebastian, thanks for watching. There is definitely an increase in casting distance, especially when it saltwater/sandy environments.

[@jimpresley-oldfishingfool261]

At least 30% greater distance without the levelwind but your thumb control has to be practiced enough to handle the extra spool speed. Also wear a glove when casting as you can really lose some skin slowing it down on a really long cast.

[@defmud80]

Would these be trustworthy on a yellow or bluefin? Without the LW of coarse.

[@CattermanAdventures]

The new ones might be. If they're not, just call their customer service and I'm sure they'll replace it free of charge.

[@thevernonposse]

The website says 30 pounds of drag for the 90 is that not an accurate number?

[@nikushim6665]

@3:36 no clue why anyone would complain about it. Sure its not gonna have a free spinning spool and high end braking and so on. But its a 50 dollar reel, not a damn 500+ USD Shimano bait caster. Edit: Removing the level wind is even necessary, it will improve cast distance but its not gonna help with big game. If its enough force to warp the level wind then its also enough to damage just about everything else on the reel.

[@luchofishing]

Sorry I dond speak English really well, can you tell me, to what is that change in the reel?

[@jorgeamarodelcanto2031]

Hola Lucho, lo hace para adaptarlo a pesca pesada. Ese sistema que ordena la línea no se utiliza ya que tiene riesgo de enredarse la línea, además los grandes snaps no pasan por ahí.

[@luchofishing]

@@jorgeamarodelcanto2031 comprendo, sale mejor acomodarlo con el dedo entonces, da mas torque? o es para evitar que la linea se enrede?

[@jorgeamarodelcanto2031]

@@luchofishing ambos, slds

[@luchofishing]

@@jorgeamarodelcanto2031 Gracias bro, Saludos

[@cclark8108]

I just got this in the 70 model and I was wondering if you could answer a couple questions? Are the two knobs on either side a spool positioner? Or a break. Also do you ever find the casting button too pop back up on you?

[@kitchensalive]

They position the spool and provide tension. They are not breaks. The 90 has no centrifugal breaks. I put magnets in mine and can cast about 75 yds with 8oz weight and no backlash.

[@jeffreybabino8161]

Taking off the level wind off is this hard to do thanks🐟

[@CattermanAdventures]

Not at all Jeffrey. Pretty straightforward actually.

[@johnanaya5735]

Can you still cast from the bank with it like that?

[@knibbzy]

I know it may be a dumb question but is there enough space to use your thumb as a stopping mechanism ?

[@weekendfisherman8072]

I assume you can do the same for the Rover 70 right?

[@CattermanAdventures]

Absolutely. I've done it to the one I still use.

[@weekendfisherman8072]

Can’t wait to order a rover 70 for crabbing use.

[@antdev8428]

@@weekendfisherman8072 have you done this already? Thinking about doing the same, wondering how it’s working out for you

[@weekendfisherman8072]

@@antdev8428 I ended up returning the reel because it came damage and didn’t really turn back to look at another Rover. Sorry, I am not much of help here. I ended up with the Penn Squall 2 size 12 and size 15 and they both have Magnetic brake. I am extremely please with those.

[@antdev8428]

@@weekendfisherman8072 ah ok cool thanks for following up. Was interested in this to remove the level wind and try distance casting for crab on the surf. Also looked at the penn squall ii casting special, but way more $$$. Thanks again

[@jimpresley-oldfishingfool261]

It's better that way but the guys at Kastking really don't get it. The cage is still riveted and inadequate. It needs to be a solid one piece cage with the foot part of the one piece. Also there is no under the rod secondary clamp to handle extreme pressures that most rod reel seats can't handle. I have seen way to many reels detach themselves from the rod under the pressure of a real beast 7 or 8 feet long and 500 lbs weight. This reel just won't cut it for big game

[@shaffiahmed3120]

After doing this can you cast lures

[@CattermanAdventures]

Potentially, but really these reels are meant to be used on a boat or for trolling. Never hurts to try

[@kitchensalive]

I put magnets in mine. I can cast 75 yards no problem.

[@Nathan-wn5mc]

I wish you could have done some before and after comparison with this, this seems more like a trolling video.

[@nicholasdalton7420]

It isn’t a trolling video lol I know it’s a late reply but he is just taking the level wind off and using the reel as a conventional non level wind. A conventional is honestly not for beginners unless you learned on it you’ll have a ton of line lost from back lash just starting out until you get a feel per reel you can just buy a conventional reel and skip having to do any work as well

[@ssuubbaasshh123]

It's 30 lb of drag for the rover 90.

[@melvinnewcomb6353]

Was that a clicker or a chain saw?

[@CattermanAdventures]

How about a chainsaw clicker?

[@Thatsn95girl]

I had to rewind the video twice. Came for the reel. But I pretty sure I saw a orb fly by at 6:35. Anyone else?

[@jacobrobertson8040]

Hate too be negative but I did this too my Rover 70L an it doesn't work the line just spools up in one big wad

[@SMaamri78]

Are you using your thumb as the level wind? You have to do that.

[@CattermanAdventures]

Exactly what skbmsb78 said. You now need to use your thumb as the levelwind.

[@soupertrooper3864]

😂😂😂😂

[@kennedycatfishing4168]

Weird aftermarket mod. Almost ghetto lol...i guess doing it this way is still cheaper than buying a reel with a CT cage. Kastking reel will probably buckle if you tried to remove the top cross bar the levelwind is on.

[@CattermanAdventures]

I've tried it without the top cross bar and it was actually fine. I just leave it on so I have a place to rest the thumb (that's if the line ever builds enough memory to go on itself LOL)

[@garymarch4711]

Just got my 2nd (Replacement) Rover 60 reel. First one had a max drag of 3.5lbs. The replacement 2nd one pulls at 5-6lbs max drag. Shitty drag systems if you ask me. I wouldn't go for large fish with this P.O.S.. All 5 Kastking reels that I've ordered have major issues. Engineering, Quality control and customer service is about as bad as it gets.

[@CattermanAdventures]

Wow Gary. That's quite a statement. I'm sorry to hear that you've had such a negative experience with the brand. Your situation is quite the rarity. In regards to the Rover, I'm curious as to how you landed on that conclusion. How did you test the drag, are you using mono type line or braid? are you using backing? Have you tried backing off the drag, then tightening it all the way down till your fingers hurt and then releasing a little? Let me know. 👌😉

[@garymarch4711]

@@CattermanAdventures Yeah, I'm pretty fed up with KastKing. I had reasonable/ modest expectations given what they cost, but they aren't even performing basic functions without failing. I have/ had dozens of other baitcasting and conventional reels. I've spooled them with anything from fluorocarbon to mono to braid. I spool them all right and catch plenty of larger fish on my non KastKing reels. These past two defective Rover reels have had about 70 yards of 10lb backing and about 110 yards of 80lb braid. No real reason for that ratio. I didn't initially measure what was going on. I use an accurate and calibrated fish scale to measure a straight line pull of the the drag. To make sure that I'm doing things right, I used the same method to measure the max drag of a couple other lower drag powered reels... namely a Lew's and Bass Pro reel. They were rated for 10lbs and the drag didn't break until around 10.5 to 11.5ish. They were breaking drag within spec. The Rovers aren't even close. Here's a private video that I sent to Kastking on the second batch of defective reels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jobamJaBoLyYebM Heres one I sent Kastking on the first defective Rover reel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGbEmY1ufqp9qtk The first reel came from Ali Express (China direct). The second reel came from Kastking here in the states... fulfilled by Amazon. I can't get any more than about 6lbs of drag out of these. It's too bad. I have no idea why. I asked KK to check out the first one and respond back what was wrong. They just sent a replacement reel and didn't reply/ ignored my inquiries (Poor customer service). I want them to work as I like the ergonomics and looks of these reels. I have no idea what the problem is with the Rover's drag system. I suspect something isn't being done right at the factory. I mean to have 2 of them fall away short of specs?? Something is wrong. I've also had issues with the Spartacus Plus reels. See the second half of the first video. Once again, I have/ had dozens of other reels, namely Abu, Lew's, Daiwa, Shimano, etc.. No issues. I figured I'd give KK a try this summer... Every KK reel I've received has been defective. I'll be clear... I have had modest expectations... Not being too fussy. Anyway, I'm waiting for KK to get back to me with a resolution. I just want working reels... even if they aren't the smoothest, etc..

[@CattermanAdventures]

@@garymarch4711 I want to thank you for being so detailed as this helps me understand the problem in much more detail. I am however surprised to hear about the customer service issue as I know our customer service contacts and know that they are nothing but kind, hard working, and always ready to help individuals. Gary, please give us a call at [phone]. Let's provide you with a solution.

[@garymarch4711]

@@CattermanAdventures I'm sure they're good people. But, I'll be the first to warn others that There's some issues there. Far from good. They frankly ignore 50% of what you tell them in emails and on forms. I "highlighted" (Bright yellow) important text or simple requests on the return forms. They were ignored. I've had to repeatedly reach out. I finally had to point blank tell them that they're "not reading/ ignoring my messages". No apologies... just forwarded my message to somebody telling them to address my questions. I tried calling twice and always get voicemail. Based on my experiences, I bet It'll be another couple days before I see any responses and resolutions. Frankly, I gave up and just ordered another Abu 6601. If they finally get it right, I guess I'll have a backup reel. Thanks

[@chadharrelson2880]

@@garymarch4711 I agree! I'm sending mine back and spending the big money on quality Abu 7000s. I'll pay more for something that actually works as intended.

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

Man if you werer a real catfisherman you would just cut it off with a pair of side cutters, lol. Just A joke or is it........

[@CattermanAdventures]

Oh I think we both know you're not kidding... lol