Best Budget Tower Speakers Under $250!

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Joe N Tell

Joe N Tell

5 жыл бұрын

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@torymartinez2439
@torymartinez2439 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your borderline frustration battling with your preferred choices with data found to price picks
@realmccoy220
@realmccoy220 4 жыл бұрын
the presentation on this channel is so clean and for a newbie in this audiophile stuff this is very informative and pretty easy to comprehend. you got my sub sir
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Huge compliment! 🙏
@MrJeffuz
@MrJeffuz 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my fs52’s for a while now and while I’ve always thought they were excellent, but I recently paired them with a Marantz 2230 and the combination is just as you’ve described! An amazing combo. Keep up the amazing work.
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
That makes me happy!
@hastingb
@hastingb 5 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of the Pioneer floor standing speakers along with the bookshelf speakers as surround sounds plus a Pioneer center channel and a subwoofer. This setup, though not considered super high end, hit my price point sweet spot and still sounds great. Really great to see a review of these and look at those frequency response charts.
@skris8227
@skris8227 4 жыл бұрын
Love your leaderboard, makes your review more worthwhile than all the other reviewers.
@macker3
@macker3 5 жыл бұрын
Really like your channel Joe.Always look forward to another video. I too have the FS-52's and matching centre with the BS22's at the back plus a BIC America 12" sub.Happy with the sound.Best I've ever had.Oh and just got a pair of the Pioneer Atmos add-ons.Lookin forward to that.Keep at it Joe!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the content.
@gccooley
@gccooley 5 жыл бұрын
Finally got to the audition part of your video when the pioneers came on it was like an acoustic curtain was lifted to expose the mid and upper Freq. content.
@NickDarnelldaftnick
@NickDarnelldaftnick 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate these kind of videos Joe. There's always a soft spot in my heart for great budget speakers that really deliver!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Me too. They make me happy because I know that if people knew how affordable really good audio is, they could easily have a great setup without sweating the $.
@NickDarnelldaftnick
@NickDarnelldaftnick 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell that's the message I try to spread. All my friends see my setup and think they all my mom goes to it, when that isn't the case. You can find great deals on great speakers! From the moment I met my now, best friend, he was always intrigued with my audio setups, eventually get wanted to get his own so for his birthday me and my dad gave him these old pioneers with jbl subs and an onkyo AV. These days he's rocking all Klipsch reference and a pl-200 Bic sub. Warms my heart I tell you.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome of you! Keep it up! 👊😎
@NickDarnelldaftnick
@NickDarnelldaftnick 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell you too sir 👊
@carolineleonard8214
@carolineleonard8214 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fun idea of your speaker leader board and your comments as you place new speakers in their respective positions. It gives perspective to the dilemmas that we all face when choosing the best fit for sound, size, budget etc. Polite suggestion. If you can try some Dali bookshelf/small standmount/desktop speakers. I've been around the block a bit when it comes to speakers. The Spektor 2 and Zensor Pico certainly floated my boat when looking for a desktop (I bought the Picos). I feel that there may be a place on your leader board for one of these. Not sure if they're quite expensive in the USA though.... definitely high quality though. Keep on keeping on my friend.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Funny you asked. I am in the process of reaching out to Dali! Glad you're enjoying the videos.
@DC-js4gk
@DC-js4gk 5 жыл бұрын
They're crazy expensive in the US, yet cheap in other places. You'd think they would have sorted it out. I'm not a fan compared to those other Danish guns, Dynaudio. On the other hand, their tweeters produce airy highs at a reasonable price outside of America
@friday1314
@friday1314 5 жыл бұрын
just found your channel and its totally worth my time
@kevinflickinger7905
@kevinflickinger7905 4 жыл бұрын
Loved your review. Just ordered the FS52s. First non bookshelf speakers for me. I also subscribed. Keep up the great reviews.
@4lifemaggots
@4lifemaggots 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you order dude? These are discontinued. Been looking for years online.
@SoonerPride777
@SoonerPride777 5 жыл бұрын
Love it when a speaker punches way above its weight class! Thanks for addressing that question about what tends to give Andrew Jones’s speakers that “rolled off” sound signature (not sure if that was intentional, but it was spot on towards my question last week). Do you have any tips on how to demo speakers like a pro? For instance, is it kosher to bring your own tracks/source, and if so how should you bring it (on a phone, mp3 player, thumb drive, something else )? Are there certain tracks you always use? How do you take notes on your speakers-do you have an organized process, or is it more stream of consciousness? What do you listen for to study the top end? How about upper mids, midbass, and bass (or however you break it up)? How long do you listen to each speaker? Do you switch back and forth mid-track, or listen to several tracks on one then another? Is it a bad idea to listen to 3, 4, or 5 speakers at once?
@bryede
@bryede 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, one idea going forward: How a speaker sounds in a room is a combination of how the first arrival sounds (which you're measuring) and how the room reflections sound. This is why it's useful to also measure a speaker 15 and 30 degrees off axis. A speaker that measures flat won't sound flat if the off axis response is full of significant dips unless the room is heavily treated for reflections.
@Enemji
@Enemji 5 жыл бұрын
The center channel comment about the Pioneer is spot on. The image build up is so strong that it is even better than a center channel. In fact as an experiment I even turned the pioneers to face the wall, and it sounds even better, much like how Dr Amar Bose did with his 901.
@Enemji
@Enemji 5 жыл бұрын
here is how I have them setup as I test them out. Speakers $198/pair Amp $99 Subwoofer $99 i.imgur.com/CLBOI5d_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
@Timewaits4no1
@Timewaits4no1 4 жыл бұрын
I need another pair of speakers like I need a hole in my head, but I love bang for buck speakers that sound good, and am really intrigued by the Pioneers. I can also pick them up dirt cheap on the used market. Speaking of which, considering my basement looks like a speaker store I've always wanted to do a used speaker shootout based on current used pricing. Think Klipsch KG vs Paradigm monitors vs A/D/S/ vs BIC venturi vs Ohm Walsh as an example. I think it would be really interesting considering everyone that reviews speakers on here only reviews new speakers. There are plenty of people that can't afford to drop a grand+ on a pair of new ones, but still want a nice set-up. There are some great deals in the used speaker market. Keep up the great work man. It's really helpful in these crazy times. Keep ur chin up everyone
@victormuriel7266
@victormuriel7266 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Joe, I really like your speaker reviews! I'm starting to love these dayton audio brand but... I'm thinking about making my front towers and center on my own, bigger and heavier with Dayton Audio drivers, for surrounds I think i can use the ones of this review (the bookshelf ones)... ...any suggestions? I'm open to ideas, with a 3 way floorstanding design. I'd like to know which drivers don you recommend and if is there any already made crossover that I can buy, it'll be better. Thanks guys!
@hi-fihaven2257
@hi-fihaven2257 5 жыл бұрын
Great work on the video! Great job on delivering pertinent, and useful product information. Really great video for people considering buying either pairs of these speakers.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!🙏
@aloksharma4037
@aloksharma4037 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I'm comparing budget towers and this was really informational. Going to listen to the Pioneers soon!
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 pairs just because I love the Pioneers so much
@christophergarrido2802
@christophergarrido2802 5 жыл бұрын
Damn man. I like your channel, amazing quality and I feel like you're an Audiophile for the everyday person. A gem in the Audiophile world IMO. Btw you sold me on the Andrew Jones Pioneer Towers. I have a Pioneer SX-10AE (great amp for the money) paired with Dayton T652's right now. Plan is to move the Daytons to my desk 😆 and put the Pioneers in the living room with the SX-10AE!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. Keep me up to date with your setup!
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 5 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance to find a sale on the pioneer elite sx-n30 class A/B 85watt receiver grab it it's a warm gem!! I have reviews about it in my channel , no harm Joe you do an awesome job !
@dram4905
@dram4905 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, your analysis, videos and comparisons are great. It was great to hear about the fs52s from you. Can you please review and share your thoughts about tannoy eclipse 3. They are pretty much in the same price bracket.
@Tortuga89R
@Tortuga89R 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your vids and information. I'd be curious to see what you think of the Yamaha NS-F150 if ever given the chance.
@haroldbriones8529
@haroldbriones8529 4 жыл бұрын
I love this speaker so much that even after buying my ls50 speakers, I still listen to this pair from time to time..its not the bass/base, treble/highs nor the mids that impresses me the first time i heard this but the "IMAGING"! Its a big wow! I tried comparing this speaker in the store with their floor standers like klipsch, kef, and soundstage,,, its the imaging that separates this speaker from the others...superb!
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@erichill5328
@erichill5328 5 жыл бұрын
I just sent back my FS52 towers and purchased some JBL studio 230 and some Home Theater Direct speaker stands. I've been very happy with the studio 230's that I purchased the 235 JBL center channel and a RSL speed woofer 10' subwoofer.
@LookSee
@LookSee 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, props to RSL Speedwoofer 10. I have mine set up with Elac UniFi 5s. Great together!
@edilbertoaguilar2321
@edilbertoaguilar2321 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent channel Joe I am a fan already after 2 videos keep it this good, and i have a question. Have you tried "proficient speakers"? I have this weird sense that those are somewhat underrated and prices are all over the place. I believe they focus on in-ceiling but they have some interesting bookshelf speakers like NFM6 and NFM8 also a CC550 center channel. I do not believe they are that popular to be in your channel but they might give some fun to test. Thank you!
@beenasty6980
@beenasty6980 5 жыл бұрын
I actually own these speakers and have thought about posting a video them and budget home theater. These speakers along with the CP22 (center), BS22 (surround) and the SP-T22A_LR (upfiring atmos) make for a badass 5.1.4 system. I suggest you buy the best subwoofer you can to accompany them because the 52s are bass shy for serious movie or music listening. I have a Klipsch R-112SW I bought for $219 connected and it blends well. So once again, for a total of $619 you have a badass system. I got stuff flying around my man cave in a clear, atmospheric, real-life action way. No distortion or cheap soundness. Adam Jones must have been bored and challenged at the same time to create this speakers. They punch well above their weight with its tone and music balance. I have heard other speakers that cost way more than they do and have not gone away thinking I'm missing something. Now for the downside. Are these speakers as good as my Klipsch RP 280s...or my Klipsch 7.2 setup?...no. Its sensitivity is about the mid 80s. Therefore, to get the best sound you need an amp of at least 100-150 watts. I power my setup with a Denon X4400H. If you match these speakers with non-Pioneers they may not sound as loud. This is why I feel you should match them with the speakers above. Separate those speakers may sound good...together it's a sonic symphony. Seriously. I'm impressed with the whole setup. Eighty percent of listeners would be satisfied with the sound coming out of it. Another thing, to get the most out of these speakers one should use 14 gauge wire of good quality. Sense they're 6 ohm and harder to drive, you want to lessen the strain on your amp to get all the info to the speakers without overload during high action scenes. It really makes a difference.
@matt88169
@matt88169 5 жыл бұрын
You should do an episode on taking measurements. Your measurements of the FS52s are the best I've seen, as far them looking essentially flat from about 60hz. It is notable that they are a 2.5 way - had they been a 3-way with a chambered midrange / tweeter maybe they would be legendary. You can spend thousands of dollars and still be using a 2-way design. The Dayton's are a good concept, but frankly I'd rather have a single high quality 6 or 8 inch driver doing bass duty. I'm curious as to how you did the measurements anyway - grills on, grills off, distance etc. It looks like a good amount of smoothing. When I get a chance, I plan to measure mine in-room and outside. One thing testers rarely do is test for "maximum SPL". It would be interesting to see that. As most speakers seem capable of in excess of 100 dB, it would be interesting to see how many can reliably hit high levels without exploding or compressing/sounding like crap. Another website in particular tested the Elac UB5s and found they topped out around 95 dB or so before sounded like doo doo. I'd like to see that verified by someone else. That is because, as you know, the farther away you sit, the more power you have to apply to the speaker to hit the same level of "comfortable" listening (70db-80db + peaks for me). Once your're sitting 10 feet away and watching a movie, it is quite possible you'll be pushing smaller, more affordable speakers to their limits. Even if they can take the power, distortion might be creeping up. Of course, so far, I've pushed the FS52s pretty hard with blockbuster movies and they've enjoyed every minute of it. I own 5 FS52s and use them in a 5.1 or sometimes a 5.2 setup. If you want a treat, have 3 identical towers for the LCR - very hard to go back to a center channel after that. Even carefully integrated, the pioneer center channel is just not as good as the tower or the BS22s, IMO (But I am using it at the moment anyway). To be honest, I've tended to like the presentation of the lowely BS22s better - they just seem a tad punchier to my ears, even with the flatter treble and somewhat weaker bass. They have been a bit more consistent going room to room. Having used the FS52 in two different rooms, I can say that for one room I was in (much more "dead"), I had them crossed over usually around 90-100hz. I could not get the bass to hit right - though no complaints from the midrange / treble. In the new room, I sit much farther away, possibly in a slightly better position. I find I like them crossed over around 70 hz. Still, the bass has not really impressed me yet - its there, but missing a little bite/definition for my tastes. Could be my placement needs tweaking. The midrange, however, is consistently gorgeous. The high end is usually detailed and pleasing, but at times I wish the boost wasn't there - just a bit of glare from that piano. Great to hear from you that they are probably better than the ELACs. Although, if the price is every low enough, I might jump on the UF5s / KEF floorstanders. Now those might be amazing. Then again, AJ did the Pioneer ELITE line as well - it would be amazing if you could review those against the UB5 / something from KEF.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
I might do a how to video for measurements. I apply lots of smoothing to keep it simple for beginners. They already have said they don't know what they're looking at so I try to explain in simpler terms. I use a calibrated mic Les than 3ft away.
@a0r0a7
@a0r0a7 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video, technical data and sound demo. For me the Pioneers were more detailed, open although a bit lighter on bass. Impressive form the money 👍
@djsoulfilter
@djsoulfilter 5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review of the Dayton MK442T's. Thanks for this shootout.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
For sure! I hope you find it informative. KZbin is still processing the video, but it should be 4K soon.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 5 жыл бұрын
4 ohm, that is kind of nuts...
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
I know, I was surprised when I saw the spec. Fortunately, most class D amps will welcome 4 ohms no problem!
@7thsoneli
@7thsoneli 4 жыл бұрын
The old receivers loved 8ohm or more loads these pioneers are an 11 ohm load,you could run two pairs with a class d.I love 4 ohm speakers,both in car and home,they seem more dynamic to me,I have the 442 center channels used as mtm pair on my bed,great speakers,the 4 inch drivers are amazing.
@chasevineland1508
@chasevineland1508 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a pair of Polk T50 towers for my daughters room. 1” tweeters, 6” driver, 6” passive radiators. About $200. Really nice too.
@tallaznj0sh
@tallaznj0sh 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this review on my fs52s! Lol great comparison. I personally like the brighter characteristic of the pioneer over the dayton and fully agree that the bass extension with the pioneers is much more than enough. Sometimes i find myself turning off my subwoofer.
@MrBrianDuga
@MrBrianDuga 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing rating system you've worked out. Thank you so much.
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Tonyplat98
@Tonyplat98 3 жыл бұрын
I use the pioneers for my right and left channels on my 7.1 surround system and they're absolutely amazing for that. Got both speakers off craigslist for $80. At $40 a piece I really can't complain.
@ScreamingReel500
@ScreamingReel500 Жыл бұрын
I like the pioneer AV amp signature also because it's tone separation and detail are rounded and natural, but not harsh when separated like a lot of amps out there. Most amps have too many sounds overlapped or when separated too harsh.
@johnnybravo1907
@johnnybravo1907 4 жыл бұрын
joe i really really appreciate the one and only Speaker Leader Board bonanza
@MichaelLivingston-me
@MichaelLivingston-me 5 жыл бұрын
An honest assessment of these speakers. It shows you're not being paid or gifted something to give a favorable review.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Viewers' trust is the most valuable thing I have.
@fretfanaticno1
@fretfanaticno1 5 жыл бұрын
6:17 'Very tricky stuff going on here... and I love it'
@MisterNiggaX
@MisterNiggaX 5 жыл бұрын
Decent review.... I really want to try towers see if I prefer them to bookshelves, I have a smaller room so my fluance sx6 fill the room really well
@JPWinters
@JPWinters 5 жыл бұрын
Keep putting out this quality content Joe. Your channel deserves to & will keep growing. I owned the FS52's briefly and enjoyed them. I really appreciate your comments on which speakers create a better center image because many people like myself use some phantom center. I ended up with Monitor Audio towers but wouldn't hesitate to use FS52's for the price. I forsee & look forward to the day when Monitor Audio bronze series makes its way into your channel.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will try to reach out to them.
@mdd47
@mdd47 4 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling like I need to buy a pair of these Pioneers. I have a pair of Canton Karat 300 that I love and they retailed for near $1000 in 1986. If the Pioneers are anywhere close to that in terms of sound quality it's an incredible accomplishment.
@TWiiZA
@TWiiZA 5 жыл бұрын
I 've had the FS52's for a while as a part of my 5.1.2 Atmos setup. I have never considered them for listening to music, but after this review I will give them a serious try. I'm a headphones guy and I don't know much about speakers, but I sure do enjoy my Sony SSCS5's
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, let me know.
@HunterLexus
@HunterLexus 5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see these speakers featured again in videos. I bought these last year and this has been the best purchase for home audio for a budget. I got the towers, center, and bookshelf for a 5 channel system for $299. I found a bass-x 12 for $80 locally and found myself with a full setup because we had a left over VSX 70 from another home. Audio is incredible! Movies are very realistic and I couldn’t be happier for the price.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing the info!
@HunterLexus
@HunterLexus 5 жыл бұрын
Joe N Tell thanks for replying! Love the high quality content you produce and it is great to see this creativity with audio in mind!
@ChrisGarage
@ChrisGarage 4 жыл бұрын
i was considering the Pioneer's they were out of stock. i have not heard them in person. i went with Polk T50's and i have to say they are awesome. they have that center stage that sounds like you are using a center channel.
@osutx427
@osutx427 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on tweeter replacement for the Pioneer fs-52? Some have had to replace due to hardware failure , I would be curious if there's a better tweeter to use regardless??
@Cyba_IT
@Cyba_IT 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid man and the leaderboard format is cool af. Well done sir ;) I'm at the stage now where I have good quality sound everywhere (and haven't spent a fortune). In my lounge, office, car, bedroom, headphones, etc so every now and then I put on a crappy pair of headphones just so I don't take it all for granted. Haha
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Lol! Nice using the crappy headphones to remind yourself how good the other stuff is.
@Cyba_IT
@Cyba_IT 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell That's it man. While I've got you I would love to find a program or solution to synchronize music playing on all the computers around the house. I've tried Logitech Media Server and Squeezeplay and they're ok but a bit laggy. Obviously there's Sonos and other hardware solutions but just thought it might be a good idea for a video to find a good free/cheap software solution. Cheers Joe, keep up the great vids
@IliyaOsnovikov
@IliyaOsnovikov 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Joe! Great video. To my ears in comparison to the Original the Pioneers sound too bright and the Daytons too dark.
@markrichards3747
@markrichards3747 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice on the Marantz. Marantz has been notoriously underrated in the power section , that 2220 is putting out more than 20 watts. Nice review, keep up the good work.
@audiorick841
@audiorick841 4 жыл бұрын
I owned these Pioneer speakers for 2 years and I would say you are right on the money.
@balnanj
@balnanj 4 жыл бұрын
hi Joe, i have the pioneer speakers and my center is a SVS prime speaker, svs pb 1000 sub, and a denon avrx 1500h. i somehow feel its not loud. what can i do to make it loud. i have to crank it up to 70 or more to get loud sound.
@moveezy5591
@moveezy5591 5 жыл бұрын
I have the whole Andrew jones line towers bookshelf center and atmos modules thinking about going to a klipsch 5.0 system rp-8000f rp-600c amd rp-600m are the klipsch sound really worth the upgrade
@MrBrodman98
@MrBrodman98 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this comment makes sense...I am moving into a downtown studio apartment and listening to music (mostly vinyl) is very important to me. I want to fill up the whole space with sound but not get a noise complaint. I don't know if its possible to fill a 500sq ft apartment but at a lowish volume. This whole audiophile community is very intimidating. I would like to keep everything under $1000 (can be flexible if a huge upgrade is a little bit more, can also add a piece or 2 at a time) I currently only have a turntable (gramovox vertical turntable) need everything else. I would absolutely love your advice, love your content as well!!
@astrotrance
@astrotrance 5 жыл бұрын
Those Daytons are the perfect desktop towers. They fit in small spaces, and are basically a bookshelf on a bass-enhancing stand, so there's no drivers blocked by the desk or near-field phase issues between a high tweeter and woofers near the floor. That computer is next-level baller now.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
See I like the way you think! "Bass-enhancing stands!"
@moveezy5591
@moveezy5591 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe I have the whole pioneer andrew jones line the towers center and bookshelves they sound great but I'm wanting to upgrade I see you have the prime bookshelves ahead of them so would a good upgrade be the prime towers center and bookshelves please let me know what you think
@henryjames6634
@henryjames6634 4 жыл бұрын
Fair evaluation. You have a great way of appraising audio gear.
@mushitori123123
@mushitori123123 4 жыл бұрын
got the pioneers for 120 canadian dollars each. it cost me 240 for both and i couldnt be happier. on my desk i have KEF Q15 old speakers but the sound amazng
@davel4449
@davel4449 Жыл бұрын
Really love your channel very nice work
@ablerauer
@ablerauer 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your pioneer impressions and description. I want to step up and buy a more expensive speaker but they sound so good. Not sure if the uni5 are worth the step up versus the 152’s. Love your videos Joe.
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Uni-Fi series is a step up and worth it.
@drumandbassob0007
@drumandbassob0007 4 жыл бұрын
invest in acoustic room treatment it makes a massive difference , more than changing speakers your room really messes with your speakers
@riteshdhoot7
@riteshdhoot7 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Joe. Its again an amazing review.
@kevin130185
@kevin130185 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. I am wondering if I can change the surround speakers for other two towers. Do you think this is a good idea?
@Eric-xx3mb
@Eric-xx3mb 3 жыл бұрын
I have the FS52's and I really like them. I have them paired with an Onkyo receiver, the matching Pioneer center channel, two Polk Audio PSW10 subwoofers and some generic in ceiling surrounds. This setup is really great and I think for movies and video games it's just about perfect. I can't imagine needing more in those scenarios. I don't have a bunch of audiophile friends, but this system absolutely destroys any sound bars etc. that I've ever heard at other friends places. I think the audio can compete with a movie theater audio experience. For music, I think they're great, but not end-game for me. I'm reluctant to upgrade them, though, because it's hard to personally test this stuff out and I still really like them. This is an unfair comparison, but listening to music on my HiFiMan Sundaras is much better than from these speakers. Overall, I love your video and I completely agree that these speakers rock. If you pair them with a receiver, center channel, sub, and some surrounds you're looking at around $1,000 for a fully capable sound system for music and a near end-game home theater experience for most users, way better than any soundbar at any price, for example. Thanks for all your hard work!
@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea
@peaceandrelaxationwithgodscrea 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, great review as usual. Im curious are your sound bites cd quality? Thanks and take care
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
No, they aren't since it's over KZbin. It's just for testing tonal differences between speakers and the source. I have higher quality binaural recordings on my Patreon. Http://www.patreon.com/joentell
@RicardoBeltran
@RicardoBeltran 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I hope you can help me, I have the Pioneer FS52, I want to add the dayton sub-1000, would be a difference or not?
@seethowaikeng7826
@seethowaikeng7826 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. Which one is better in your opinion when it comes to sound? Pioneer sp fs52 vs Elac b6.2
@shjntastream8068
@shjntastream8068 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think a pair of the Pioneer's tower plus center speaker and both side speakers (surround) could be decently powered by the Denon AVR-1312 receiver? I read on Crutchfield that it outputs 75watts with 2 channels driven. I'm not an audiophile, I don't need insane power and I don't know much about the subject but I'm trying to do some research... It just happens that these speakers and that particular receiver are within my budget here in Peru. Great content! thank you!
@Paranimal86
@Paranimal86 5 жыл бұрын
I have the FS-52s I absolutely love them... I have the whole Andrew jones 5.1 set up.. As Joe says they are so great with imaging... live music for example Alice In Chains unplugged blew my mind, voices and the sound of guitar strings are so detailed its fantastic... love them. As far as the bass it’s good for most things, but that’s a non issue pairing them with a decent sub is going to take care of any of the bass short comings... as Joes says these speakers are smooth! Thanks for the vid Joe!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
It's always helpful when someone who owns them and has listened to them a lot comes to a similar conclusion.
@Paranimal86
@Paranimal86 5 жыл бұрын
Joe N Tell I’ll also mention I’ve been looking for a really nice affordable 5.1 set up for a while... I had the Logitech Z-680s(not sure if you’re familiar they are better than most home theaters in a box still imo) for about 17 maybe 18 years they were good for what they are, plenty loud with tons of bass for movies and games but were so so for music. About 7 years back a good buddy of mine spent about 10 grand on the 5.1 B&W CM9s... I watched Tron at his house, it blew my mind... I came home and popped in Tron on my Z-680s set up and it wasn’t even close, not that I was expecting that but wow gone were those mids, and high highs. I’ve always admired really good hifi, but until recently I had other finacial priorities. After watching countless reviews and recommendations from people like you and Steve Guttenburg, I thought the pioneer Andrew jones line is exactly what I’m chasing without breaking the bank. Boy were you guys right, As you said the mids are incredible. I’m not going to say they are as good as the CM9s but we’re talking pretty damn close to the same experience I felt when I heard the CM9s. I’ve found myself not only enjoying movies much more, but also listening to tons of different artist on Apple Music, for example steely dan and Pink Floyd have a whole new dimension and dynamic to them. I’ve been missing so much... anyone else reading this and are thinking about buying the FS-52s do yourself a favor stop waiting and just get them!
@maft43
@maft43 5 жыл бұрын
@@Paranimal86 Thanks for the input. I am currently looking at setting up a good surround with my only experience in the past being the Z-680's. Those also fit the budget for me at the time as I agree did well for sound for what they were. I want to eventually get a good atmos 7.2.4 and I think I might start with these speakers and do the Andrew Jones 5.1.
@LarsonChristopher
@LarsonChristopher 4 жыл бұрын
If you like Andrew Jones then you may love KEF speakers.
@reekinhavok420
@reekinhavok420 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do this with some krk gen ones and gen 4s or anything krk for that matter the rokit 5s ..
@BMR_WRLD
@BMR_WRLD 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, I have these 2 FS52, 4 BS22, and CS22. They sound so sweet, imaging is unreal, I found that out quick.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
I wish people could experience it. It helps to have people who have these speakers share their experience.
@victor2410
@victor2410 5 жыл бұрын
0:14 yep, I agree completely! I have Micca MB42Xs and MB42X-c for my home theater, last week I was staring at all that empty space where the speaker stand was and thinking how much more sense a tower speaker would make. Also I didn't seem to like the MB42X in my living room as much as I did on my PC desk (probably due to the 4 inch woofer). A pioneer SP-C22 center showed up on Craigslist for a screaming deal and I pounced. Pioneer FS52's were also ordered over the weekend. So perfect timing on this video! :) edit: Oh, I also felt like at high volumes my ears were getting a bit fatigued by the Miccas in the big room so I'm hoping the pioneer will help with that. Will be returning the MB42X-c and moving the MB42Xs back to my PC desk were they have served me well for 2.5 years!
@manFromPeterborough
@manFromPeterborough 4 жыл бұрын
The original micca speakers are better for my vinyl setup than the Polk T15
@MrSuperman258401
@MrSuperman258401 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do the Dayton audio T652 air towers and B652 air bookshelves see were you place them?
@TheLoneMartian
@TheLoneMartian 5 жыл бұрын
I was originally waiting for Fluance's Ai60s (thanks for the review btw) to use on my PC for games, movies/anime, and music when not using my beyerdynamic 990s. After watching this video and reading reviews however, I think I'm gonna go with these FS52s instead and pair them with a SMSL AD18 (a sub would likely be overkill in this current room, so I'll leave that for another day). Will need to elevate them a tad bit but I got two things that will do this perfectly. Thanks for bringing these to my attention and helping me choose, Joe!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 5 жыл бұрын
been an audiophile since I was 14 years old that was back in 89!! Lol so amazed and happy how technology has come so far ! I bet I've owned at least 50 sets of speakers ! journey has been so awesome wish I would have somehow reviewed them all on video !!! i must say your the reason I bought the fs52 dam amazing for the price ! In my journey the JBL Lx-500 and klispch kg 2.5 best bookshelf I've heard so far towers and floor models would be Pioneer HPM-100 ,150, klispchhorn and the elac f6 ohhh my ! lol keep up the great job Joe trust your ears over microphone science lol
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the videos. Did you see my latest video? I use mic measurements AND my ears. They compliment each other.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 5 жыл бұрын
Joe N Tell Lol no I haven't watched it I'll go check out now ,and again thanks a lot for what you do for us all
@ericvannatter9114
@ericvannatter9114 4 жыл бұрын
My home theater 5.1.4 is all pioneer i started on a budget thats why i baught them i think they sound fantastic for price my next setup is gunna be kef q series
@videosulllike3110
@videosulllike3110 4 жыл бұрын
Sir pls can you suggest me, with whom to pair these towers with, Yamaha R-N303 or Marantz PM5005.
@groggycl
@groggycl 5 жыл бұрын
hey man! Me again! haha.... I am waiting for my fs52's to get to Chile (south america)and I am still in doubt to whitch amplifier to buy. I am using just those two speakers at an small living room. I aint no audiophile but want to enjoy my music. I like the smsl ad18 because it provides the things I need the most, USB, s/pdif and good bluetooth. One question, U say u used it with a 20w/c amplifier (obviously a nice quality brand amplifier...) but, anyway, a 20w amp and for what you say, I feel like that is the experience I want. Does this smsl ad18 provides the same kind of power or does those 80w (little less in this case because fs52's are 6ohm)are kind of bogus numbers? thanks again! Love your videos man, really down to earth and clear info, keep them commin!
@Steve-nk5sz
@Steve-nk5sz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have been wondering, I always liked there car speakers, im gonna try them
@marcc482
@marcc482 Жыл бұрын
Very nice review ... I just got a Yamaha A-S500 and found a pair of excellent condition Pioneer SP-F52 ... thinking of getting them as a secondary system to be coupled with a Marantz sacd/dvd, a Technics SL2000 and some tuner (Kenwood/Yamaha or Rotel)🤔
@mikedinno8413
@mikedinno8413 5 жыл бұрын
Everything Pioneer has ever made is top notch. I've always used their receivers and I still have the Kuro Elite plasma. I wish they still made TV's their OLED would no doubt be the best like the Kuro. Connected to my home theater is my old NHT Super two towers. If you can find a good pair in eBay you can't beat their sound for the money. I can especially say that for the NHT Super one 2.1 bookshelf. For a little over $100 they are absolutely the best budget speakers out there IMO. Have you ever heard an NHT speaker?
@keepopenminds
@keepopenminds 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe.. you have a good content videos. just had a question do kilpsh and Polk do not qualify in your list.. I am just lost between Pioneer s52 and Polk t50.
@joentell
@joentell 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like the lower end Polk stuff, but I know other people do. I like their higher end speakers though. I have never reviewed Klipsch, but I'm willing to. I'm open to trying all speakers.
@scottpeck1149
@scottpeck1149 5 жыл бұрын
Pianos are excellent instrument for playback checking, hit some low keys as well, excellent reviews 👌👍
@maxrider2887
@maxrider2887 4 жыл бұрын
Sir Please help me. Which one is best in sound i allready have a sub. 1 pioneer sp Fs52 . 2 yamaha ns f160.
@shreyadolas6699
@shreyadolas6699 4 жыл бұрын
Hii sir i m no experience can u plz help me should i use a amp or avr or stereo reciver suggest me a budget best
@Russell_Huston
@Russell_Huston 7 ай бұрын
Very good review, that's the way to do them, especially the comparison music samples at the end. I found that I actually liked the Dayton for some of the samples but overall the Pioneer was the more clear and accurate speaker in the bass end of the spectrum. Overall Pioneer wins for me.
@wawaldi
@wawaldi 4 жыл бұрын
What would be the best combination of 5.1 set up with these Pioneer FS52 tower speakers?Center,subwoofer and rear channels?
@gregrichard9192
@gregrichard9192 3 жыл бұрын
Great review I do prefer towers over bookshelves everytime. However when I'm going for a tower it's nothing less than 8" woofers
@AverageNiceGuy
@AverageNiceGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Cool review, Thanks, mine should be here tomorrow!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
😲 let me know how you like it!
@MarcusBrannon
@MarcusBrannon 5 жыл бұрын
I love my FS52s. I found the matching bookshelves on Facebook marketplace for $40(!) Brand new.. so I ordered the center channel and the 200w sub. Can't wait to set up my home theater.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Let me know how it turns out.
@MarcusBrannon
@MarcusBrannon 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell I love it. Giving the new surround speakers a tryout today with Stop Making Sense. You can see the difference between my old Yamaha center and the pioneer in the pics here. imgur.com/a/lZrFI8U Subwoofer has not come yet, so I'm still using the 50 watt Yamaha sub right now 😬. Just moved in to this house so the entire HT setup right now is temporary until I get new furniture and then I can really plan it out.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
@WheeledandWellArmed
@WheeledandWellArmed 4 жыл бұрын
My old Nakimichi died about the same time as my first of 3 kids came. I have a Hsu powered subwoofer and besides that starting from scratch. Looking at this: Pioneer SP-FS52 $139 just dropped at Amazon S.M.S.L AD18 $144 I saw you reviewed both. My playroom is 12x20 with a fireplace, piano, drums and bookshelves on the 12 foot walls. Will this sound Okay?
@davido810
@davido810 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel very good info on great speakers...I am in the market for a soundbar/small speaker system around the $200-300 mark and after watching your channel, I can not decide! Yamaha yas 108...fluance ai40s, fluance ai60s, edifier r1850db...rghh so many options and it kinda sucks that I cant test them personally...keep up the great content!
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
I would go for the Ai60's myself. I've had a Yamaha sound bar in the past and it was good for what it was. But you can't beat two nice speakers, space properly apart and in decent sized enclosures.
@davido810
@davido810 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell I was already leaning toward the Ai60s I just needed a little push! I will let you know as soon as I get them! Thanks Again!
@mbt8545
@mbt8545 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review i have pioneer FS52 and they really sound good you can’t go wrong buying them. I placed them in the living room with center and surround full pioneer package, they fill the place well...room size 8mx6m
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
We should start a FS52 fanclub! 😂
@victor2410
@victor2410 5 жыл бұрын
How did you mount the rear surrounds? I am switching from monoprice 10565 to Pioneers (after a brief Micca check) and not sure how to mount the larger bookshelfs. Would prefer not drilling holes in walls.
@mbt8545
@mbt8545 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha i am not fan boy but you wont go wrong with Pioneer FS52 and with that price (y) thumb up Pioneer
@mbt8545
@mbt8545 5 жыл бұрын
victorescu speaker mount did great job for me
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Marantz unit there... I need to start looking for some of that old Marantz gear. The sound was always incredible.
@joentell
@joentell 5 жыл бұрын
It really is something else. It just feels nice to press the buttons, turn the knobs and to hear it click on. It's a whole experience. It sounds great too. The loudness button enhances the bass extension without it sounding muddy or fake.
@michaelwright1602
@michaelwright1602 5 жыл бұрын
@@joentell I know, that is what I miss, the knobs and buttons. Especially the tone controls... Much easier than tweaking a dozen frequencies when you remember how easy it used to be with two simple knobs. And the loudness button, they just did so many things right back then.
@manFromPeterborough
@manFromPeterborough 4 жыл бұрын
@@joentell I don't believe in the louds button crap, it only works on the first half rotation of vol knob, then you get punched out mids @6-7/10. I defeat the full time loudness capacitors on midget amps by unsoldering from the middle tap on vol pot
@bustercolin7507
@bustercolin7507 4 жыл бұрын
My avr is 8ohms my new speakers are 4ohms. Didn't check before I bought, so I changed my avr to 6ohms. Do you reckon that's ok???
@MrStarofTruth
@MrStarofTruth 9 ай бұрын
this man did a good presentation if i could afford those speakers i would get them...
@AldenPez
@AldenPez 4 жыл бұрын
What budget sub would you recommend to pair with the pioneers?
@MrJ00bond
@MrJ00bond 5 жыл бұрын
I have full set Andrew Jones on my 7.1 denon system with 4 towers Fs-52 , center, sub and enabled Dolby atmos, sounds amazing for the price.
@Chillymosquito
@Chillymosquito 5 жыл бұрын
What was the price?
@hugoknapp
@hugoknapp 5 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do a low-frequency response leaderboard list for all the speakers?
@s-zilla8184
@s-zilla8184 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! Great video. I have limited choices for a center speaker because of the small console cabinet (only 15.5 inches wide). What would you suggest I do. Two or three SVS primes for LR or LCR...... or two of these pioneer towers without a center channel?
@s-zilla8184
@s-zilla8184 5 жыл бұрын
SVS prime bookshelf’s I meant to say.
@lbudt29
@lbudt29 3 жыл бұрын
The 3 khz ranger has a broader dip in the other frequencies than does the pioneer, and there is a bump up in the midbass range for the Daytons. A good EQ can fix those areas for the Dayton.
@aldenapoli4526
@aldenapoli4526 5 жыл бұрын
Can you add a list of center channel speakers since they play such a dominant part into the home theater sound?
@usf1man963
@usf1man963 3 жыл бұрын
Which would be better for "home theater" my simple budget 5.1
@77RONZO
@77RONZO 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm new here. I really like your opinions and layouts of components you review. I have a question for you. I recently became interested in home audio. I bought a pair of 301's and a new Sony 2 channel receiver. I fall into the category of the guy who likes beats headphones lol. I want a new pair of tower speakers that produce insane bass. No sub needed. I was thinking about Cerwin Vega sl-12. Can you review them or give suggestions to something similar that might be better?
@konjiki240sx
@konjiki240sx 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear how the bic America dv64's do in comparison...
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