Thank you for including your pad. So many videos don’t include the pad for visual purposes or sizing. It makes a big difference and it’s more true to application.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
You’re so welcome! I like when videos show e the pad too so I assumed others would too. Thanks so much for watching
@1LeggedAdventures3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the lanshan and paria arches tents on this video. Both are under 200 for the 2 person versions and great for the price. The Arches is slightly wider and longer than the Lanshan.
@johnalexander86143 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Lanshans, paid less than $100 canadian for each, 1 kilo each, waterproof out of the bag. They are awesome.
@atomicpsych03 жыл бұрын
I've been looking more and more into the lanshan for a tent as I prefer hammocks but would like the ability to go above the timber line sometime. I hear great things but not from many of the bigger KZbinrs like Dan Becker or outdoor Thor
@johnalexander86143 жыл бұрын
The tent is from China. The big KZbinrs don't make any money doing reviews on theseproducts, as they would with American companies.
@anonymouscommenter22783 жыл бұрын
I got the X-Mid 1P because the polyester fabric does not stretch and absorb water the way nylon tents do. Also you can see on the setup video on the Dan Durston YT site how to roll the doors so they don't sag much.
@daveonahike55613 жыл бұрын
I was also going to suggest taking a look a the discussions and Q&A sections of the Drop site for the Durston 1P and 2P. He makes some very compelling, well thought out arguments about the selection of materials used in the X-Mid tents, along with comparisons of may competitors. Really worth the read. (Disclosure - I’ve been happily using the 2P and just picked up the 1P. I expect both to last for many seasons!)
@BigDawgCAM3 жыл бұрын
Have the DD X-Mid 2 and it's the weirdest thing. Even though it can be difficult to pitch, there is just something about it that makes you love using it. It's really novel and an absolute palace for two people. Would highly recommend
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
It really is kind of funky when you first get it! But I think that’s kind of what makes it fun you know? Do you exclusively use the xmid now?
@BigDawgCAM3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking Yup! It was the only tent I used all of last year and had a great time. Such a great option for backpacking. I wanted a second tent that was a bit easier to setup though and you actually got me to pull the trigger on the TarpTent Rainbow Li. Gonna take it out tomorrow night for the first try so wish me luck!
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@BigDawgCAM that’s awesome! I hope you have a fun trip and enjoy the tent 🏕
@lakorai23 жыл бұрын
And drop will be releasing more for sale next week!
@megaosfan3 жыл бұрын
@@lakorai2 nope. All on Amazon with this batch. 2P is already sold out till later this year. 1P still in stock though and once it's sold out, won't be back until late summer/early fall.
@natej05563 жыл бұрын
Just recently got the x-mid 1p. I love it so far. I’m 6’2” and thinner framed, and it is a bit cramped, but it works fine for me. You could be a few inches taller and still work with it. The size of the vestibules are great.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty great tent!! I really like using it as the outer shell only with out the netting, thanks for watching
@cyrilhaessig273 жыл бұрын
Lucky you ! still looking out of stock on Drop ... Can't find it anywhere in Europe sadly
@natej05563 жыл бұрын
@@cyrilhaessig27 Follow Durston on instagram, he gives updates. They have the 2p back in stock today but they sell quick. Though that might just be for USA.
@megaosfan3 жыл бұрын
@@cyrilhaessig27 this latest batch isn't going to be on Drop. Drop placed them all on Amazon!! 2P sold out in a day, but the 1P is still available.
@mateobeans37873 жыл бұрын
Great video! Glad u were able to show all the tents next to each other! Thanks
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that you like that! I thought it would be helpful to have them all at one time.
@wad62163 жыл бұрын
Lanshan 2 would be good in this test
@Oldsparkey3 жыл бұрын
I have both the Lunar solo by Six Moons and the X-mid 1 by Dan Durston. My old Lunar solo is silnylon which will retain some moisture. ( The new ones are Silpoly ). The X-Mid 1 is 100% polyester with a silicone polyester coating which does not retain moisture. That lets me pack a dryer tent in the mornings. I also use a Tyvek groundsheet in the DD X-Mid 1.
@BackcountryForward3 жыл бұрын
My Dude! Yes! You said it! "Budget" and "Cheap" are NOT the same thing! I'm biased, but I'm all about that X-Mid!
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I think there’s a huge misunderstanding about budget gear! I think the best gear to get is whatever gets you out on trail
@BackcountryForward3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking AGREED! I got lambasted in the dursthead group for calling the X-mid "budget" lol
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@BackcountryForward hahaha you gotta be careful there bro! 😂
@BackcountryForward3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking favourite group on Facebook! Fortunately I've got enough "cred" I was able to defend myself. lol
@BackcountryForward3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking I grew up in the hood what can I say 😜🤣🤓
@mclostinthewoods3 жыл бұрын
I have the X-Mid 1P and you can stake out the ends and sides more. There are loops already there, you just need to tie on the cordage. My recommendation for anyone who buys the X-Mid is to replace the tie out cordage with longer lines. It makes setting up easier and you can use better reflective cord (just a personal preference). I routinely stake out the ends just for better airflow.
@Kevinschart2 жыл бұрын
the difficulty he's having with xmid is actually a benefit. you have the ability to customize air flow, and accommodate for uneven ground. but just like any tool you have to learn how to use it.
@user-oe7jh1ee4o3 жыл бұрын
O man I was hoping to get your opinion on the 3F UL GEAR Lanshan 1 pro Tent Outdoor 1 Person
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to catch on Amazon when they have one in stock. But, I haven’t been able to find one. Do you use the lanshan?
@mikelambrou44623 жыл бұрын
It’s almost identical to the Lunar Solo, it’s cheaper & comes with stakes but there is no factory seam seal option. I don’t know if I got lucky but the quality is surprisingly good, xpac reinforced tie out points, YKK zipper and the stitching is really neat. The biggest difference as far as I can see is the SMD is silpoly vs silnylon for the Lanshan, I think the latter is stronger but stretches more when wet.
@juliomb13 жыл бұрын
I got mine through the Mier website. But I did hear they were hard to come by. Also the Lanshan is double wall so condensation is less of a problem. I love mine. My favorite budget tent so far.
@ProjectBasecamp3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking looks like they are available for order now (Mier branded)
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectBasecamp Thanks so much, I’ll check it out!
@rhosymedra66282 жыл бұрын
That mesh house 2 is really cool. This is a great comparison of tents, thanks for sharing!
@ShowalterEnterpriseCapital3 жыл бұрын
The Durston is my first ultralight tent. And, I love it.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the 1 or the 2?
@glenndorsey90683 жыл бұрын
On these cold winter nights I find the frozen condensation on single wall tents a real pain to deal with. I’ve decided that my 6 moon design solo is on the shelf until around April here in The Virginia mountains. I do pay a weight penalty with my budget 2 wall, 2 person tent but my dog and I are much more comfortable at night. And the extra room is nice on the long winter nights.
@j3hikes4443 жыл бұрын
good call on the six moons solo. they are a great company and i really enjoy my gatewood cape.
@geraldhenrickson74723 жыл бұрын
I ordered a Gatewood cape when they first came available and wasn't impressed. I returned it to their offices in beaverton Oregon and although they were easy to work with...I came to understand their products are made overseas. I was a bit disappointed they were designed in the USA yet made elsewhere. Has that changed?
@aurtisanminer28273 жыл бұрын
That six moons tent is soo similar to the zpacks plexamid. That’s not s bad thing, I love the amount of space it provides.
@SouthernHike3 жыл бұрын
Love the Lunar Solo option! Seam sealing is the only downside. Worth the extra money lol. Great video Thor!
@peterfiggis82843 жыл бұрын
Love my Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
It really is such an awesome tent!!! Is that what you use primarily?
@peterfiggis82843 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s my year round go to tent. Winter camping and all. I make up for the airiness with an extra warm sleeping set up.
@YoungGunzBass013 жыл бұрын
Just bought and sold an XMID 1p. WAY too small for me. The 2ps extra length is super helpful.
@nicoleandjoshbaldwin42283 жыл бұрын
I have a few tents and so far my favorite is the solo. I had plenty of room for myself and my dog last weekend
@ck-ud7mt3 жыл бұрын
I second the luner solo, i've never used a ground sheet and don't go out of my way to treat it nice and it has held up excellent. it also holds good in high wind situations with the tie outs or it will be noisy, moisture have not been a problem as long as you pitch it correctly and be mindful where you pitch the tent. overall best bang for your money.
@seedmole3 жыл бұрын
I've been in the market for a sub-2 pound tent for a long time and I somehow lucked out into a Mountain Hardwear 1-person tent on sale for about $200 total shipped, including the added footprint. Totally stoked on it (the Nimbus UL-1), though it retails at $350 so would be over $400 shipped with the footprint.. definitely would be beyond my budget. Cool to see there are some options out there that don't require lucking into a sale like that.
@garrycollins34153 жыл бұрын
I wish I had seen the MSR 1 before I bought my bivy.
@geraldhenrickson74723 жыл бұрын
This is a first look video...right? We are assuming they work well and the specs are accurate? Thanks for the video.
@pikaoutdoors74143 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love a good budget gear video.
@DaveOffGrid3 жыл бұрын
Great video and break down of each tent! Super informative. You're the third one I've heard that digs the 6 Moons Designs Lunar Solo. Jeremiah Stringer and Huck Outdoors (affiliate) also have it and love it. I'll keep it in mind if I ever snag a single tent. I personally go with a 2p even when solo but I'd entertain saving weight for sure!
@mackjenkins77213 жыл бұрын
Man this was a great review. I like those MSR tent. When everything gets would not pick one of those up for my granddaughter. You provided great information man. Thank you for sharing your video.
@Swiftthrift3 жыл бұрын
Great video, budget-friendly gear is a great way to get new people into backpacking. For future videos, please include metric measurements for EU viewers. You will get more views this way.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
You got it! Thanks so much for watching and for the suggestions
@ChrisGrahamWeb3 жыл бұрын
Great video, exactly what I needed. I've got a hammock but have been looking at budget friendly options for a tent. Thinking I might go with the MSR Mesh House since I can use my rain tarp from my hammock setup.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked it! I think it’s great when you can use items for multiple different purposes. Which tarp do you use?
@ChrisGrahamWeb3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking have the ENO ProFly tarp. Probably not the lightest option out there, but seems like it could work with the Mesh House.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisGrahamWeb as long as it works, that’s all that matters, that’s great! If you’re not worried about weight as much there is an identical design from paria outdoor products called the breeze mesh tent. It’s $69 and it weighs right around 24oz
@dangerpudge19222 жыл бұрын
There are two other tents that spring to mind. The Gossamer Gear 'The One' which meets all the criteria here, and the SMD Skyscape series (which miss, barely, one direction or the other depending on version). The Scout version is 40oz but is currently only $130 (holiday sale, normally $160) for a very durable sil-poly tent with MASSIVE ventilation, two doors, two vestibules, and is really long. The same attributes apply to the Trekker, but this one is currently $229 (holiday sale, normally $270) but only weighs 28oz. I had an older version and it was phenomenal (and particularly well suited to very tall folks). As another option, which IS truly ultralight, the Deschutes Tarp when combined with the Serenity Net Tent gets you what amounts to a double-wall tent and that meets all your criteria.
@KirstenBayes3 жыл бұрын
Admiring your on-point tent pitching skills! I've used high end 4 season stuff (Rab Ascent bivi or Macpac Microlight tent) to this point, but will be trying my new 3-season Lanshan 2 this year, once the law allows.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I’m just waiting for the lanshan to come back in stock! Have you liked yours?
@KirstenBayes3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking it's been illegal to use it since I got it 😭😭😭
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@KirstenBayes really? Why has it been illegal?
@KirstenBayes3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking here in the UK it has been illegal to camp overnight since January. We should be back out there from next month. I had a big winter trip planned that was a no-go: but as they say, the mountains are still there.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@KirstenBayes oh I didn’t know that! I hope you’re able to get out soon
@mconley123452 жыл бұрын
you didnt add for the tarp???
@cfc10873 жыл бұрын
Should check out the 3F UL lanshan 1(double wall) and 1 pro (single wall). They're a bit lower in cost on AliExpress but shipping takes a while. They also updated the double wall version to have the same dimensions as the pro.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for them to come back in stock! They look pretty sweet. Is the floor wider now?
@cfc10873 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking According to their video it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHi8opqEltOtntk I don't own either one, so I can't speak from personal experience. I've had my eye on them for a while since their tents are mentioned a lot on KZbin.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@cfc1087 OK cool! Thanks for dropping that link for me.
@evanbarrett20723 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t pay me to sleep in that MSR one man lol, seems like those msr tents kinda defeat the purpose if you have to carry a tarp anyways. Great reviews though I bought a tape tent rainbow two, your review pushed me over the edge on it lol. Trying it out tonight for the first time
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was fun to review, after getting in that thing and testing it out for a while I definitely would go another direction for somebody my size 😂 I think you’re gonna love the double rainbow! Well it’s a hard pill to swallow to spend that much money it is a really cool tent. Where are you heading out to to use it?
@AlpacaMade3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for highlighting the two tents that were my second choices. My first choice when I plugged in the weights, was just too heavy. I'm leaning heavily toward Six Moon but one size up for the dog factor. The only thing I don't like is the bottom edges being 6" above ground; seems drafty. Nevertheless, seeing it set up is pushing me in that direction. Thanks again!
@glenndorsey90683 жыл бұрын
I hike with my dog and 6 moon solo. Now he is a 20 lb terrier, but there is nice dog space in the corner of the triangle and I think a larger dog could cope (up to maybe 50 lbs or so). And I’m 6’4.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
It is a possibility to drop the trekking pole a little bit to bring down that door to create less draft. But, that being said I’ve never had any issues with being being too drafty
@mikevargas8093 жыл бұрын
great content. my great fear is setting up and taking down in the rain. (and of course condensation as a result). love to see you do a video specifcally on that
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
I actually filmed a video last week about setting up in the rain, it will be coming out in the next few weeks will be looking for that!
@mikevargas8093 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking can't wait! thanks :^)
@jonsanford25153 жыл бұрын
I’m doing research on a 1person tent to purchase in the near future, and have zeroed in on the Durston and Lunar Solo. I like the extra floor space of the SMD, but it’s so humid where I live, I don’t love the idea of single wall. The Durston double wall and big vestibules are appealing. If the inner were a few inches wider, it would be a no brainer, but 28” is pretty narrow. At least there’s the option of removing the netting, and sitting under just the tarp to wait out a storm with the Durston. Your review matches my likes and concerns. But, being in Utah you probably don’t have the condensation issues I would in VA. If heavy condensation were an issue all the time, would you still prefer the SMD?
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the lunar solo for a 1p shelter. That being said humidity as a whole different factor your overall experience. How tall are you?
@jonsanford25153 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10”
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@jonsanford2515 You know I think you would be happy with either tent! But you’re going have plenty of room in the lunar solo if you decide on that. If you’re not too concerned about weight you could check out the xmid 2p as well
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@jonsanford2515 for me it’s just a little bit too tight in the Xmid one person and it’s worth it to me for the extra weight to go with the two person or the lunar solo
@jonsanford25153 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. I’m not overly concerned with weight, but the Durston 2p is a little more than I care to spend. I’ve read that Durston is considering making a 1.5p. It would either be a modified 1p with a wider inner, or a shrunk down 2p that would fit a person and a dog without as much extra space as the 2p. That seems like it would be perfect for what I’m looking for. If I decide to go for the Durston 1 or the lunar solo, I’ll do if through your affiliate link.
@ChrisOUTEC3 жыл бұрын
Great video overall!!
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Are there any other types of videos or specific videos like to see in the near future?
@ChrisOUTEC3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking Thank you, yes: A comparison of the different types, sizes, and styles of packs from the various top vendors: Traditional, framed, semi-framed, frameless, and/or ultralite packs. A few considerations I can think of as ideas: Comfort (shoulders, back, back sweat), durability, convenience/packability, cost/value, materials used, how wet will they get in a down-pour (pack rain covers may not always work?), ability to customize or not, are any parts easily replacable (example: hip belt), various features and "bells and whistles" (and are they worth it), vendor guarantees/warranties. Could span over multiple videos.
@kentlburgess3 жыл бұрын
Where is the Lanshan?
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
It’s in my cart on Amazon hahaha
@victorsvarietychannel24593 жыл бұрын
Great trouble shooting tips, thanks.
@johnmccarron3 жыл бұрын
You can pull the prussic knot up to the apex of the tent, by turning doors of the tent inside, leaves tons of air space.
@Sunshine_day2 жыл бұрын
I would need a tutorial video adding the additional tarp. I'm such a noob!
@simonkelly83543 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that solid review. could I ask about the stitching on the six moons lunar solo. Looking for something light for more multi day hikes. However I ve seen some comments about stitch quality and durability on the six moons. just missed the drop on the x mid looks really good ATB mate simon
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
You got it!!! I have never had issues with the stitches for what that’s worth. They sell the xmid on Amazon!
@simonkelly83543 жыл бұрын
Thanks man keep up that great content
@simonkelly83543 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking the pyramid tents are just gathering momentum here in england
@WilliamTheHeretic3 жыл бұрын
The DD X-mid 1 lands in Canada at around $485.00 CA.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Holy moly!!! That’s a pretty penny
@WilliamTheHeretic3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorthorbackpacking It's actually more now. When I bought mine last year it came with 8 shepherd hooks and was $20 US less than it is now. The problem here in Canada is the tent comes from Vietnam, and so there are multiple boarder fees, because the tent arrives in the US first. It was still worth it for me, and I know that Canadians that have purchased it are really happy with the tent, regardless of the price.
@adrianlitrico38853 жыл бұрын
Excelente revisión y una opción válida y superadora de los tarp y ponchos. Abrazo de Bushcraft desde Argentina ✌️🇦🇷✌️
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Gracias, espero que le gusto el video! Que tenga buen día!!
@ericb.43583 жыл бұрын
Tarptent Notch and Notch Li??, TT Moment DW?
@thomasmarguglio21202 жыл бұрын
Lmao " keeps you projected from the bugs" 🤣🤣🤣
@denis653663 жыл бұрын
The lunor solo is a great thru hikertent,,,
@geraldhenrickson74723 жыл бұрын
It is? You have had good luck with yours? How many trail miles thus far?
@denis653663 жыл бұрын
@@geraldhenrickson7472 I had done the at with one..
@dannieast3 жыл бұрын
I need a hug ❤️💫
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Come on over Utah! Haha
@ssam1433 жыл бұрын
X mid best hands down.
@Johnnywalleye13 жыл бұрын
I picked up the Paria outdoors arches tent 2 135 $
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
How do you like that one?
@lakorai23 жыл бұрын
X-Mid 2p. End of story.
@mr.e.50233 жыл бұрын
Great story. Happy ending every time! X-mid all day.
@xGorexGirlx3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@liveinthewild76463 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Here's my review of it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWa6k36cZ6xqkLs Absolutely brilliant tent!
@Obushak3 жыл бұрын
The 3F UL GEAR Lanshan 1 pro cost me less than 110$ and it worth every penny I paid for it. Basically this is a clone of Lunar solo, and I don't see any drawbacks: the quality is very good. Also the Gossamer Gear The One is a great tent. Maybe not so budget (299$), but it should be cheaper on sale.
@ChuckNoctis3 жыл бұрын
Lanshan 1 pro is the best budget tent atm.
@attempt34803 жыл бұрын
WEEKEND WARRIOOOOR...!!!
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh yeah 🙌 😂
@Kevinschart2 жыл бұрын
the xmid isn't difficult to setup. i get a perfect pitch every time. Most people try to eyeball the setup. There are more precise ways to stake out the four corners. like all things, technique is important. Also i never have a problem with sagging vestibules. again technique is important.
@Rico-Suave_2 жыл бұрын
Watched it 5 times
@jackvoss58412 жыл бұрын
“Budget” would indicate a thought out approach, some amount of looking at options, considering value to the consumer with cost to the consumer. There is a difference between “less expensive” and “cheap”. Cheap has the odor of poor quality. Less expensive may - or may not - have that odor. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
@mckenzieharmon85013 жыл бұрын
...someone has been shopping
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
😂
@mattmiller11793 жыл бұрын
I would not call $250 "budget."
@SingleTrackMined3 жыл бұрын
It is for a sub 2 lb tent. A wicked bargain
@mattmiller11793 жыл бұрын
Except it isn't. There are plenty of other options in that weight class for half of the price if people are willing to do some research and import from overseas. For that matter, I have a 10 ounce tent that cost me $30. You are doing exactly what the video accuses others of--gatekeeping the backpacking world as some sort elite sport that only people with a lot of money can enjoy. Which is simply untrue and perpetuated by this myth that you have to spend $250 to get quality items. It's why I commented in the first place, downvoted the video, and told KZbin never to recommend the channel tome again.
@outdoorthorbackpacking3 жыл бұрын
@@mattmiller1179 I totally appreciate your honesty and sharing what you really think. It helps other people grow. I’m sorry I didn’t find what you were looking for on this channel