BEST Camera EVER? Xperia 1 IV vs iPhone 13 Pro vs S22 Ultra!

[@kuau714]

It’s clear to me that the Sony is really designed for photographers who will shoot in RAW;DNG only. Sony does not really do computational photography. Putting this phone in a novice photographer will yield terrible results.

[@jaerg91]

Even if they are in raw I wouldn’t use them. They were horrible

[@paryonoono5019]

Just buy second hand dslr, it's way worth than that $1600 sony

[@jaerg91]

@@paryonoono5019 for reals lol I have a cheap canon rebel and it takes better pictures than sony!

[@kors3500]

Because computational photography always artificial, it is different philosophy ☝️And dispute cameras,SONY has best screen,best optimization,best sound quality via Bluetooth and top hardware reliability. P.S.Obvious champ in computational photography is pixel 6 pro)

[@naththoau]

@@kors3500 What you said is correct the only most computational photography is google pixel. Thats the only phone from Pixel.

[@dalecarloubas]

The way the Xperia 1 IV is treated here is like me giving my DSLR or mirrorless camera with modes beyond Auto and handing it to my mom to take pics and having it set to Auto for her to point and shoot. You missed the point of the phone's intended audience and instead made generalizations. Good job 👍 guys. Good thing you called it a blind test.

[@sosiehtesaus2652]

Absolutely right. It's such a shame that almost all KZbinrs get the wrong idea about these devices.Yes, the automatic mode in Sony devices is not the best... But the manual mode is the best. So if you say this or that has the best camera... Please say the best automatic camera.

[@joschka2075]

but most people don't want to clicki click minutes for a 'quick' shot

[@sosiehtesaus2652]

@@joschka2075 Sony goes for both. but of course it's not the best for everyone.

[@joschka2075]

@@sosiehtesaus2652 No no image processing can't keep up

[@sosiehtesaus2652]

@@joschka2075 I see differently. The Pro i also makes in the P or Automatic mode better photos than e.g. Pixel 6 or S21ULTRA .The images have better colors, more details and there are no processing errors.Auto focus is also better. HDR is much more natural. Samsung and Google have features like Documents mode and Macro mode. Sony doesn't have anything like that.I have had all three devices for at least 6 months each and can therefore also compare them. That Sony has a bad automatic mode is a myth Sony doesn't have an "Instagram ready" mode.....Luckily😅

[@cgazlan]

this proves what MKBHD blind camera test from years ago, where the brighter photos will almost always win

[@DNGR369]

The Sony could get wayy brighter naturally but this guy wants to take a dodgy image. It's pretty obvious

[@khunrocky606]

@@DNGR369 that's not how Auto mode works

[@DNGR369]

@@khunrocky606 have you got an Xperia IV?

[@oscarespinoza7773]

@@DNGR369 Sure, 90% of reviewers decided to take "dodgy" images with this phone. Just check other comparisons and you'll realize Sony's software is not on their level and that's simply because they don't have the resources/manpower to do it.

[@TheLTcousins]

@@oscarespinoza7773 what level? The picture look right, not right right but certanly better than the overprocesed garbage that the others spit out. All it takes is skill and you can produce a finer image with the Sony and sadly for the rest the same cannot be said.

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[@jordanturner7821]

The sony gives you all the control over the settings directly. So I would've liked to see its biggest asset leveraged instead of the automatic mode which wasn't it's focus.

[@fmax30000]

All phones have manual settings and if you’re using a pro app would get much more than any stock cam. Choosing a phone as a point and shoot camera means the best out of the box results or you’ll miss the shot trying to adjust what looks best and this doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll get the best! Otherwise if you want a pro cam, no phone can match a DSLR in most situations. One more thing, it’s the fastest processing and the most consistent and reliable while all others take silly long time for processing and do post-processing and result in not a reliable or consistent results. That’s important.

[@professionalpotato4764]

If anyone is looking for something with more control, a point and shoot like the RX100 series would be far far superior with better ergonomics, lens, sensor, everything.

[@jaerg91]

Nah, sony it’s just horrible. I wouldn’t fix a horrible shot. Have tried that before and it will take you much longer or will never come out good.

[@fmax30000]

@@The_MEMEphis Crappy on Android, yes! On iPhone there are plenty of well polished with great pro features and RAW even before raw becomes native. I definitely agree with you by having a native pro cam app is much better, but Sony couldn’t nail anything, neither the Auto nor the manual on this. I love sSony but I’m disappointed. And this is just the cam, I didn’t start talking about their slowest OS updates, poor battery and high prices. I love 2 brands, Apple and Sony and I get disappointed when they screw something especially knowing they have the means snd tech to perfect it.

[@avenuePad]

@@fmax30000 All phones don't have a pro mode and their pro modes are nothing like the Sony's. With the iPhone you have to download a separate app to get "pro mode", and it's still clumsy. For me, I don't want to spend money on a separate DSLR and a phone. With the Sony I can get a really good manual camera and a phone in one.

[@AndersonChan]

A thing I noticed super consistently is that iPhone will tend to destroy shots with a person as the subject while S22 Ultra absolutely kills landscapes and the environment

[@tiziocaio8657]

And Sony destroy and kill every subject 😂😂

[@martinbank_]

So the s22 is perfect phone for introverts? 😂

[@gio-i1m]

@@martinbank_ 🤣

[@princesanadal7110]

So true

[@_observado]

Not always, sometimes it makes everyone look orange as f

[@jongao]

This is not a good and fair comparison - First, the 1 IV still runs pre-production software, whereas the other two phones have gotten multiple updates. Second, you can't maximize 1 IV's potential by just using its auto mode. The device is not intended to be used in this way. A lot of the scenarios with preference of brighter/darker exposure, you could just dial in some adjustments.

[@MZappa]

Straight to the Point 👍

[@iAfroTech]

it's Sony's fault. They have already done the same thing with older devices, giving pre-production product to youtuber and then waiting for month before you can have final product. This strategy is non sense. Sony's marketing strategy is also a non sense whereas their xperia lineup is really interesting.

[@hooooman.]

the fact that samsung is planning to roll out most of the camera features of s22 ultra to all the devices upto note 20 ultra giving me chill😍

[@gio-i1m]

200mp camera on s23U will be insane

[@TheLTcousins]

The 100-200 mp modes are just dogshit, why would anybody use them?

[@AeonGreyh]

Lifelong iPhone user here 👋🏻 but guess who’ll buy the Samsung S23 Ultra 😍

[@belec5964]

@@TheLTcousins S23 Ultra will actually use 4-1 binning instead of 9-1 on their current 108mp sensor, so the final photo will have 50mp.

[@GamesWorld03]

@@gio-i1m It won’t do shit. It’s just stupid marketing. The best cameras that photographers use have 25mp

[@adinchandra1797]

I realize if Sony Xperia's Camera is unlike other Smartphone. It works just like "Camera" that Photographer use

[@MZappa]

I see it the same way 👍 Sony's marketing is also clearly aimed at professional and creative users, not a mainstream audience

[@sasorishino]

I like how consumer-centric their opinions are rather than being professional.

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

Yrah, really shows the shill they are

[@mehdi969]

Hi all the team and thanks a lot for your job. For this kind of test, it could be interesting to include a DSLR image as a reference and try to find which mobile image is the closest.

[@kamilp.7457]

DSLM please

[@MuhammadKharismawan]

Lol he doesn't even bother tweaking anything on all the pictures taken here and you're asking him to actually Work himself into trying to make DSLR work? You joking right?

[@elaleman6345]

Fully agree!!

[@josir1994]

you can't put a DSLR in, it will make their overlord's phones look terrible

[@nobodycaresaboutyou5590]

Dslr usually takes raw, then adjust in light room, that's how I do it, so you can't really compare it, because Dslr Images are usually tweaked

[@dregsi76]

I like the test, BUT for me the comparison isn’t 100% accurate. The Sony for me has several features which can be used to make better snaps. Apple and Samsung are without a doubt incredible point and shoot mainstream shooters, the software is incredible. Sony are certainly aiming to the more creative and more niche market.

[@juggernaut83]

@@jire9831 Then that's definitely not the phone for her this is not aimed at the average consumer. So your point is not valid and you forget they have pre release software

[@yoshiharatoshiaki3650]

@@juggernaut83and yet they sent it for review? 🤷 samsung does the same thing as well

[@juggernaut83]

@@yoshiharatoshiaki3650 I'm not disputing that, all I'm saying is that Sony don't focus on computational, hence why it won't match Samsung or Apple most of the time but let them do a comparison when you can tweak the setting and photo's will be much better than both maybe not Samsung's zoom but you get my point. Sony not focusing on point and shot as most time photos will be fine

[@astigmatik]

worst part is, they never seemed to mention it. but i didnt finish the video, and they dont care.. they only care for the view count.. no wonder i could never subscribe to this channel

[@dregsi76]

@@astigmatik I didn’t finish it either

[@lihharusan1]

I think it's also important to remember that the Sony is still in pre-production so what we get here isn't the final result. Also, what we think "looks good" can also be subjective. Sony's traditional approach has always been taking pictures and videos as how we see in real life, not what we think looks colorful or contrasty. I would even argue I prefer some of the Sony's night shots more because it's how we're supposed to see things at night, he even mentioned at 19:19 "he couldn't see anything" which was the point of the Sony looking too dark. The iphone makes night scenes look bright, but in reality, the scene was probably much more darker and pitch black like how night time should actually look. 19:48 clearly illustrates this how the Sony and Iphone comparison is literally night and day. You cannot see the stars as clearly like how the Samsung and Sony did. 20:15 is a good example when taking it right with the Sony and how the night sky should look.

[@timcook672]

I totally agree

[@jimalfauraq388]

Lets be honest, i cant disagree with this 😂

[@Vdynamics7]

definitely sony captures night stars clearly which is critical subject to capture any smartphone they also miss human eye clearity during comparison

[@Nooely]

To your opinion about the photo in 19:19. I get your point but why would you wanna take a photo if you can’t see anything on it. This is a pretty dumb point. For a not point-and-shoot camera, it lacks too many features, and for a point and shoot camera, the software can’t hold up.

[@Eagleeyessss]

Sony stays with the natural look. These three love processed photos. They think sony is garbage. I just love sony's photos.

[@daniellmarcussen2599]

I disagree with almost all your choices. You choose the most overprocessed and least natural looking foto in almost all cases. You grew up with smartphone cameras and Instagram filters and have no idea what good quality foto looks like.

[@tomsmoneymagic]

Hey, I got 20 for S22, 14 for iPhone, and the food one for the Sony. Quick comments are that iPhones absolutely rule videos (maybe not slo-mo), as well as being the brightest at night. The Samsung does the best most of the time for selfies, and for detailed night time shots.

[@fmax30000]

iPhones rule for video, macro and for night shots. And they are great for other photos especially in HDR. They do need improvements in selfie cam and the optical zoom and that’s what will happen in few months in the iPhone 14 and it’s 48MP.

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

@@fmax30000 only video you got right buddy

[@giomardeleon]

@@eibarmanpessi1142 lol Fandroid

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

@@giomardeleon mad?

[@mannegar7650]

@@fmax30000 iphones wins for video, yea no one may argue that with u Buth other categories the competition diff beat them

[@troy5568]

The Xperia gives off images that are similar to how proper cameras process images, which is to say that everything is as accurate to the scene as possible, whereas the iPhone and Galaxy are doing lots of heavy processing behind to enhance the images digitally and make them artificial. Sony just gives you the untouched results right out of the camera and give you the option to decide how you want it to look afterwards through editing, while Apple and Samsung are already dictating to you how the results should look like and how it shouldn't.

[@g33k_Tech]

Should take raw picture format for iPhone to do the comparison

[@Jeboi96]

@@g33k_Tech with iphone you cant really truely turn it off. the RAW format on iphone is still editted

[@Saeed89]

Exactly 👍👍

[@mateuszdepczynski1466]

@@Jeboi96 imagine raw on 12mp camera 😂😂😂

[@lionelb8227]

I've never seen pictures like these from a Sony. I guess there's a learning curve. Because it doesn't work the way all the other phones do. I know it, I switched from a 1 III to a 13 Pro. I take consistently worse pictures (according to me) with the iPhone. Maybe that's because I tend to like my pictures more natural and less processed. And I still see that here. I wouldn't be worried switching to a 1 IV.

[@sasorishino]

People want instant social media pictures nowadays.

[@ryugalaw]

@@sasorishino It's actually funny to hear that. Who's people? These are the phones in the market with different Philosophies. Each person can see which philosophy resonates with them and then chooses what to buy. Comparing two things according to the standard of one of them is unfair

[@namelesssnitchy]

why did you go to a 13 pro then ?

[@lionelb8227]

@@namelesssnitchy I had to get one. I can understand the appeal of the iPhone, everything works "fine" I guess. But phones like the Sony are so refreshing and nice when you're the targeted audience

[@avnibmx]

Bruh whats the guarantee that these guys aint paied to advertise samsung or apple XD

[@Alpha27GTR]

Well, you can never compare sony with software-driven cameras. Sony gives you complete control and one can experience raw photography at its best. Sony can click jaw-dropping photos if the phone is given in right hands.

[@enriquesed1841]

It's amazing to see so much respect for Sony in the comments! Watch videos made by professional photographers using the Sony. Amazing pictures and videos! Manual mode of course. The Xperia is for those who prefer taking a picture, a real one, without AI deciding how it should look like. Go ahead, check those videos to find out what the Xperia can do and AI can't.

[@tsooinves8605]

😊

[@Jhayzt19]

It just shows that we like automated things so much. I saw channels with the Xperia 1 IV and they were phenomenal.

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[@omarspost]

I guessed all the Sony shots correctly. When it comes to colour rendition and computational photography, their ethos is minimal post processing, maximum user control. Also this is a pre production unit, whereas the others are well refined and have benefited from multiple software updates.

[@thenonexistinghero]

Well, Sony's colours are the most accurate to real life generally. Thing is... people tend to prefer extra pop and saturation. Personally, I prefer accuracy. I don't want pictures to try and improve on what I'm seeing in real life. I want pictures to capture what I see in real life. Also... it's often easy to tell the Sony ones apart because they don't oversharpen stones and whatnot. So basically whenever those textured rocks don't look extremely sharp, it's Sony's picture.

[@aldenfriala2405]

I on the other hand committente some mistakes but i got a passing grade on guessing the Sony photos

[@indieke]

@@thenonexistinghero Yes, but my God these night shots are horrible!

[@Shauryaaya]

I guessed 2 wrong, and guessed all the other ones correctly, its like a dslr in a phone, these guys don't know how to use its manual mode and make a proper comparison, although these can't really be compared

[@jackdevlin4325]

I kept picking the sony. Love how real the colours look!

[@superspeed3675]

I am wondering if you put the Sony in auto mode or did you drop it in manual. I would also like to know what your settings were. Trying to adjust exposure on the iPhone is very difficult. From the videos I have watched the Sony would win hands down. You are also not mentioning focal lengths and how those compare. I would also like to know what color mode you are shooting the Sony in. I know it has filters and different modes. Are they all just auto or did you select a mode? All of that would help me compare the phones. Otherwise, there are a few to many questions left to make this review very useful.

[@junyutan9408]

Very clear that Sony is sticking to the conventional photography with much less computation. Easy to tell. I think in a professional’s hands maybe the Sony will be able to tell a much better story. Without computation, all the work lies in the photographer. Still an excellent system from these photos. Though macro isn’t close enough. And for that price actual cameras would be a consideration, so it’s not a great value as a phone.

[@g_shotsu]

someone understand's Sony's point. You can make outstanding photos on the Sony, better than the iPhone and Samsung, as long as you have the skills. But if not, Samsung and iPhone is for you

[@junyutan9408]

@@g_shotsu price for that is still hard to swallow though.

[@ryugalaw]

Actual Cameras don't come with SIM Cards, aren't pocket sized, don't allow gaming and music consumption, etc... It's obvious what this phone is. A phone that doesn't compromise on anything for those who want that. The average consumer shouldn't even think of flagships, if we're being real. Flagships are for those who need them. Not for those who want to get a nice picture in Auto mode

[@DNGR369]

This video is biased man don't believe what you see here. I think this person tried hard to make sure its a less impressive picture. The Autofocus on the Sony is class leading but all the images are out of focus!? Yeah no...

[@dendjaka7203]

This is smartphone

[@lordMaroza]

I was mostly picking iPhone photos, and I picked 4 or 5 Samsung ones, 1 Sony. I'm still on P30 Pro, which still produces amazing photos. It would be cool to see where it's at compared to the 13 Pro and S22 Ultra, today.

[@exfx8315]

Same bro, had it since early 2019. I'm looking to upgrade, I've had a Huawei phone since the P9, kills me to have to change. Still not sure what to get.

[@professionalpotato4764]

With a lot of the photos I'm surprised by the tendency for flat images? A lot of the images picked, if you converted it into a grayscale image and put it against a waveform monitor, all the values are going to fall between 20 and 80 or something or even 30 and 60 in some cases. I think some images look best if they look like how they should be. E.g. the tree shot at night. Let shadows be shadows sometimes.

[@thenonexistinghero]

Well, these folks represent casuals. They prefer pop, overly saturated colours and grossly exaggerated details. Most people don't realize that stuff in real life doesn't look like that. They just see what looks juicier and assume that's the best and closest to real life. They want to remember things better than what they actually were.

[@BruceLee-ky7qz]

@@thenonexistinghero Well said. I noticed the same thing. In most cases they chose the most saturated, brightly lit photos, which is more eye pleasing, but not necessarily the most accurate.

[@D_Bear85]

Like most others say, the sony is built different. Its realism via optics, rather than AI turning the photos into what it thinks we want. We are just tuned to seeing it like that these days. Its as much its strength as it is a perceived weakness

[@ohkayrayan]

It would be a great video comparing the sony using manual settings compared to the iPhone and the Samsung.

[@arjuncm3634]

This is nice comparison video Camera full review true

[@minimalfun]

I am a big fan of your channel but I wish you didn't talk about photography. Holding an X-rite color checker in front of the camera and taking a shot, is far more accurate and more reliable than deciding which shot is better by looking at it. A different pose, a simple smile or many many other things can change how we feel about a photo and it can change our perception. Btw, as mentioned earlier, I am a big fan of yours but this is a totally different territory.

[@xeon2k8]

he's testing phone cameras for the regular "John" that will buy a phone and point and shot, not DSLRs for Peter McKinnon audience, i would suggest you re-read your comment and realise how pedantic you sounded.

[@ryugalaw]

Exactly, they shot for every phone at a different time. This delay changes a lot in a photograph

[@minimalfun]

@@ryugalaw Yes, not a reliable test at all.

[@Long0214]

This test is meant for average user who doesn't know much about photography and just want a phone that takes the best picture to their eyes.

[@litzbluejay3152]

Photographers will know that post processing is better than pre processing 😂😂😂

[@kushalraj]

Would be awesome if these comparison videos where available in HDR. so we could better see the differences. Since so much information is lost due to KZbin compression anyway. Or if the images were posted on a Google drive or something to view uncompressed.

[@維-k9p]

Xperia iv has the most natural color amongst all flagship without shitty computational photography, shame sony software support is crappy and a major deal breaker for me

[@mikeommanney]

The Sony has an amazing camera in manual mode & if you are someone who takes their time to shoot photos & videos you will get a better result. However, if you are someone who likes to take quick snaps then the other phones will work best. It all comes down to preference. Most people will not be spending time trying to find the correct settings for the best picture, so there's no surprise it's the S22 or iPhone.

[@indieke]

You forget th Pixel 6 and now 7

[@Bayliancollins]

Lol. Xperia I IV doesn't have auto night mode. You should have use the manual photography if you want a clear night shot. That's how you use it.

[@selfscience]

I prefer the naturalistic approach from Sony because they aim for a 35mm look from an old classic camera because that is traditionally elegant for rich and arty people to put in frames in collections instead of awesomeland automatic photos from iphone and samsung that are aimed to family albums for the kilo.

[@marcinradziejewski6086]

I'm gonna have my word since I've been an owner of last 3 generations of Xperia. Currently running on 1 Mark IV. Sooo, at the very beginning I didn't know, completely, what to do with the camera. It takes days to go through all manual options Sony gives you. Once you learn what to do with it, there is no better camera. Xperia is not designed for fast snaps out of pocket for Instagram or other funny platforms, and that's why it looses compare to iPhone or Samsung.

[@indieke]

I can understand that. But is the learning curve not too steep? And the night shots, really look horrible....

[@kenramping]

7:39 Xperia, looks really natural and clean. The center obviously had fake dynamic range and too contrasty. 11:49 iPhone has fake sky but the skin tone is kinda okay. Samsung is really warm. Xperia is balanced in color and contrast. The Xperia shot would look great when edited too. 15:11 Center. Does not look over processed and the flaring looks better to my eyes than the one on the right. The iPhone just has that too much contrast it does not even look good in that shot.

[@archie7288]

8:56 the sony is showing garbage video quality 10:34 looks the sony is really bad 12:13 another garbage on the left 15:11 wtf is this can't see anything on the left

[@kenramping]

@@archie7288 What's the point of your reply tho? I only commented here the things I beg to disagree with their observations.

[@ALONE_EFX]

Not a single click.... -SONY💀

[@p4ul.f708]

I chose 2 times the Sony, 9 times the Iphone and 22 times the Samsung. So the Samsung is the clear winner for me! I really would live to see another comparison between the pixel and the samsung after this sick firmware update! Also a comparison between the s22 ultra and the s22 would be cool!

[@ohnenamen8392]

Also bei mir ist das Ergebniss etwas besser ausgefallen da ich nichts davon halte die Nacht zum Tag zu machen. Und ich mag Halt natürliche Farben lieber. Ich bin mir nicht sicher ob beim Fotografieren versucht worden ist etwas zu fokussieren, nicht einmal mein Sony xz1 hat so verschwommene Ergebnisse geschaft. Aber nun zu Frage könntet ihr das Video wiederholen wenn das Telefon die finale Software bekommen hat ? PS in Europa ist der Preisunterschied kleiner, aber immer zu teurer.

[@mohakgupta3236]

1 advise for an even more unbiased camera comparison - please vote the pictures separately, not together, so that we are not unconsciously being influenced by what the other person is selecting as the best. Then in the end after voting, tally the scores...

[@alwayslearningtech]

I've thought this for a while when watching their videos but my guess is that it's a less engaging video so they go for the best of both with some sacrificing of both.

[@mohakgupta3236]

@@alwayslearningtech ya...you are right I think...this doing together would definitely be more engaging than doing separately...

[@roboteen]

If they wanted a fair comparison they should have shot all of them in raw, unedited using the pro mode for each. The flower photo where the focus was on the background is my big pointer that this isn't an unbiased review. They didn't use any of the phones to the devices best ability. What it really looks like to me is that they didn't even care to focus the picture before taking it.

[@deadworms]

conclusion: normal people would prefer more saturated and brighter than real life photos

[@TurkishStyles52]

People are going to like the most perfect look out of the box. They don't even notice that all of it is artificially tuned. Once you see the tuning operations by looking on the photos in detail, you will always notice them and begin to realise that it looks too cartoonish and not real. I'm glad there is at least Sony on the market, that gives you the option to shoot photos, as you have seen the scenery in real life.

[@dnegel9546]

Real life graphics suck.

[@br4infrezz339]

even most "Pro photographer" edit their raw image in Photoshop, and Samsung flashgip have those options raw and manual mode, you know why Sony have low sales in the smartphone market industry today, because they can't keep up with this "artificial image processing" taking image with smartphone on the go and look nice and then upload on social media, billion people use social media, that the market sony have to keep up the demand for "smartphone", but they failed with one tap auto, and you need 10 step click to have perpect image 🤷, just buy the pro camera and it beats Samsung and iPhone any day, no need expensive Sony phone with small sensor and thinking have the best camera image processing in the phone market industry SMH....

[@LetmeASMRyou]

I'm sorry but I've had the Xperia 1 IV and this is definitely not what the results of the main camera (on auto mode) look like. Idk maybe your lense was dirty. It seems intentional, tbh.

[@youcefaissa4505]

Question: Did you use Sony's photography apps? Because there is a big difference between the normal application and the dedicated application.. I don't know why I feel that the comparison is unfair.. and that Sony is being wronged.

[@AnwarLL]

Is that prereleased software on the Sony? Looks like it.

[@AruarianDauber]

sony is for real professionals that edit the photos themselves, so they don't have very good computational photography

[@SneakyCaleb]

There’s no excuse they should do both

[@ES-qy2ju]

@@SneakyCaleb why not? Mirrorless cameras doesn't do AI photo neither.

[@SneakyCaleb]

@@ES-qy2ju but their larger sensors can produce amazing looking jpegs. And the lenses help. I’m a professional photographer and there’s no excuse from Sony. These small sensors need help.

[@kfx3907]

@@ES-qy2ju You don't expect that from a 1600 bucks phone? Lol

[@ES-qy2ju]

@@SneakyCaleb their jpgs are just like alphas JPG the only diference is the noise ratio and resolution

[@honey4xi]

Does New Xperia 1 IV or Samsung S22 Ultra support 10-bit 4:2:2 RGB video recording like Apple iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max which support 10-bit (billion colors recording)? Does New Xperia 1 IV or Samsung S22 Ultra support 12-bit image capture like Apple iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max which support 12-bit (68 billion colors image capture)?

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

S22 Ultra supports full 16Bit uncompressed raw. S22 Ultra supports 10 bit HDR10+ videos upto 4k60 but only main camera. Happy?

[@honey4xi]

​@@DeepteshLovesTECH 10 bit HDR10+ could be HEVC 10 bit 420, not like Apple ProRes 10 bit 422 which is higher quality and higher color space than 10 bit HEVC 420. Visually, HEVC is H265 lossy codec while ProRes is lossless codec.

[@mikeandersonwa]

For me it was iPhone winning with 21, S22 with 12, and then Sony with 2. Also on the S22 ones I picked it was VERY tough to choose between the iPhone or S22, as well as for a few of the iPhone wins. I also loved at night, the S22 had some amazing balance, but the iPhone definitely had more detail and captured more, I just felt like the iPhone photos ended up looking like bad daytime photos rather than amazing night photos. So while the night mode on iPhone was impressive as hell, they didn't do a good job of making it still look like night time, so basically they did TOO good of a job and ended up losing because of it.

[@atherton1ful]

fan boy

[@mikeandersonwa]

@@atherton1ful I mean, yes, I am an Apple user, but my comment is literally criticizing Apple for their night photos, and mentioning how there were many times the S22 and iPhone were pretty much a draw. If that makes me a fanboy then okay, I guess so.

[@bred4808]

@@atherton1ful cry

[@atherton1ful]

@@bred4808 sad

[@cw1161]

@@mikeandersonwa iphone got destroyed with more updates lol

[@skytechandgizmosmartinez7914]

If it can shoot at the moon and get the details its.the best for me and so far it was Sony and an old Nokia that did it for me.

[@HazelMotes]

Sony seems determined not to add software to their point and shoot camera phones that would easily keep up with their competitors. They also choose to keep their auto and pro shooting systems separate from each other which I think is a fundamental mistake. A combined system that focuses on photos and video optimised for the best possible results, but also gives the user the creativity to adjust settings easily would surely be the best option for Sony camera phones. (Lifelong Sony phone owner)..

[@Trust_The_Plan]

Who would buy multi thousand cameras if they do what you say 🙈

[@Trust_The_Plan]

@Vijay iphone 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

@Vijay sony

[@thedark4301]

Sony camera with professional hands tells a whole different story.

[@rishabhgusain]

Keep in mind guys, Xperia 1 IV is running pre production software and its more about manual camera controls i.e. made for pro photographers/videographers (targeted to a specific niche)

[@CheukNamSiu]

Pro =/= manual camera control. A pro in any type of field, in this case content creation, is always goal-oriented and emphasise opportunity cost. Being able to create usable content with minimal effort and in turn achieve more with the time saved, arguably fits a 'pro' more. And also both the iPhone and Samsung could attain manual camera controls with apps.

[@rishabhgusain]

@@CheukNamSiu They can, but at the level of Xperia??

[@CheukNamSiu]

@@rishabhgusain If something so mission critical needs to be shot in full manual with the depth of the photo pro of the xperia (tbh not sure what does a photog need beyond ISO and shutter control considering the fixed aperture and deep depth of field of phone cameras), any sane pro/content creator would have at least brought an RX100.

[@rishabhgusain]

@@Roomer645 I never said any software issue will fix it..Sony is way too bullish on their hardware and their manual modes

[@rishabhgusain]

@@CheukNamSiu That's also true...more logical choice would be to buy a pro camera instead...but yaa as they say "niche" , maybe they want it for vlogging or some specific shots with a smartphone added & now some great mics in addition to 4K screen & hq speakers

[@isuruml96]

Give this 3 phone for photographer and say choose one of them.......😊😊😊😊

[@991106kk]

As a Samsung user, I think the Sony is mostly made to use it's manual settings and RAW-output. It doesn't look like the Alpha-team focused on the AI/Automatic modes at all. Also, I'm really impressed by the S22. Great improvments with software updates, giving it a pretty big jump from the older flagships. Iphone still has a very good video. Maybe the other brands should increase the bitrate?

[@indieke]

I still think the S 22 oversharp pict too much, that is the only good thing about the Sony, it does not.

[@kamellmr42]

Personally I think there's something wrong in this video comparison since Sony is the one who is manufacturing the camera sensors for Samsung and iphone

[@meat_loves_wasabi]

iPhone being the oldest phone among the group did fantastic… love these blind tests

[@huntno]

A roughly 5 month difference in release date between it and the s22 means that software updates are really what determine quality, I don't think recency is that important here

[@chrisak49]

Agree iphone camera is so far ahead

[@Endromek]

wait till 14 to blow your mind

[@fmax30000]

@@huntno Androids get SW updates to fix cam issues. iPhones usually come ready OTB. Future updates usually address other aspects like battery, optimization and security. I don’t recall we ever waited for a cam fox on the iPhone and I’ve been using them since first gen in 2007 along with different Androids that followed the smartphone revolution the iPhone kicked in.

[@Randomdude21-e]

@@huntno iphone uses 12 mp last eight years, still matches the s22 ultra, with way better speccs and newer phone. Will be fun to see what apple can do with better cameras:) As of now, s22ultra or 13 pro you will be happy with both,

[@bb-ioan]

in the comeplete dark night shot with the tree in the middle, it was stupid of you to choose left, when in real life you didn't see a thing. A photo is not for making total darkness seem like daytime... that is bullshit. a photo should try to capture photos close to reality and the middle one (the s22 ultra) did that in a perfect way, while also having an insane amount of detail. Stop thinking that night mode should turn darkness into day, because it's stupid...

[@marcorl100]

I prefer the S22 in most of the cases. You guys give too much attention to color and non technical aspects of the image. I wouldn't evaluate that way because its too personal and can be fixed so easily later. I would give most of my points to the edge detection on portrait mode and detail on night mode.

[@Ivano_IVory]

Hello Max Tech Team! This is the best comparison I've seen so far on KZbin. Extra class! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 BUT you should compare the best of the best together & this is Huawei 50 Pro vs Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra vs iphone 13 Pro Max!!! This is the ULTIMATE battle 😉

[@adot921]

With the Samsung and blurred background, you guys do know it's adjustable. So I always wonder why it gets so much hate for looking "unnatural " when you can set it to whatever you feel is natural

[@AsadAttilyMADSAD]

I used sony for a very long time and the last one was the Xperia xa1 plus (because it's no more available in my region) and I can take photos with it more professionally than you take with the three devices you had, which means either you had a mobile phone shop and you don't have sony, or you never used a phone camera like it should be used you just tap the snap button and that's it for you.

[@dame744]

Sony phone is meant for manual mode and not point and shoot... All the photographers who did tests said the Sony phone was a lot better mostly beside macro shots and zoom of course because of the galaxy.

[@asdsdadsdsa7495]

If I'm only mirrorless camera user , rarely take videos. But love to take pictures , love Mode M,S,A in my camera. Is it worth to buy this phone? Or is it better to just buy Samsung or Apple.

[@jumderavi]

It is clear that you guys are really not into photography. But that is true for the majority of the people, who want to share photos from the phone directly on social media.

[@Devnull01]

Picked the Xperia every time but as always it's down to most accurate reproduction Vs most pleasing to the majority out of the box. I would also add that unless they've changed it the "camera" apps auto mode is rubbish on the Xperia - shoot with the alpha camera pro program and it's a different beast.

[@TheTrapani95]

i think he dont know how to use a sony smartphone camera, i've a sony, and seriously, the camera app is not very good but not at this level, then is impossible compare photo and video compressed in a new edited video where photo and video were cropped o underscaled. In the end is a personal opinion of a non accurate analisi, not a professional opinion whit an accurate analisis of photo and video

[@MrAhmedabouelwafa]

Guys have you ever used a dslr before, have seen images come out of them, the shadows vs midtones vs highlights how they are well balanced according to the lighting source?! Bringing up shadows like most of the images u choose must be brought up in post not simultaneously from the camera and the dynamic range is measured by how you can pull that shadows and highlights in post. You cant judge any camera phone because it shows what your eyes sees and not to being processed first

[@06bostonguy]

I’m an Apple Fanboy but the S22 ultra take amazing 🤩 pictures, def the phone I would get if I switched from iPhone. iPhone still dominates in the video department. Both are great cameras 📷

[@neifrydelacruz7927]

Samsung fanboy here but I completely agree with you, s22 videos sometimes I feel looks unreal and I also agree that Apple does an amazing job with its battery life🤩🤩🤩

[@axux4509]

I totally agree, I would get Iphone 13 pro for videos, S22 for photos. I don't know why android phones can't process videos as good as iphone.

[@MattJett]

I would like to see this comparison, but with the Sony taken in RAW and editing in Lightroom. Then, I want to see how those pictures compare to the iPhone and Galaxy's.

[@indieke]

Yes, but then you think you should process every picture like that.....

[@RedstoneinventeArmoredGuy]

I am pretty sure that the low light results for the 1 IV is not really fair. I got better results from my Xperia 1.

[@prauunprauun91]

Thanks for all the effort. It's a lot of time and energy taking photos with all 3 multiple times, prepping them for the comparison and etc. However, when you mentioned portrait shots, do you mean you use the tele lens? Because I can be taking a portrait shot of a person with the wide lens instead of the telephoto. It would be good if you point out which lens you are using when taking for each set of those photos, whether it's the telephoto, the wide or the ultrawide. I do believe it makes a big different which lens you use when taking the photos. It's easy to twig the results when different lens are used when doing these comparison. Also, some companies put more emphasis on the main (wide) lens and the other 2 are just bad. Although megapixel should make a huge different, but it does to some extend. Thanks again!

[@cardosojuliomorton]

To get the best for the Xperia.. Use the professional camera mod

[@ANDREW007CZ]

don't understand how three of them can't see how iphone ruins skin tones.. all skin photographed by iphone is not at all natural. too pink/orange-ish

[@LazyTacoProductions]

I think these kind of videos do better with a control group variable to compare them to. Like a standard. So probably a dslr

[@mehmetokanaydogan]

This is best comparsion video i have ever seen. Thank you :)

[@lukeshatterhand1969]

As a iPhone user I was surprised that I took the Xperias photos most of the time because the other two looked like ‚ready for Instagram‘, completely oversharpened (which has nothing to do with the sharpness produced by the sensor and the lense and is hard to get rid of or tweak in editing), unnatural bright and processed colors… but not like a natural starting point to receive a great photo via editing.

[@ivankolev4077]

Waste of time!

[@Alvaro1Puentes]

Can you guys do a video where you do computational photography with a camera and see how they compare? Stacking/Mean averaging and not trying to make the camera look like a phone shot but making it look as best as possible with the glass you have.

[@regalblack1503]

The only phone to have 4k 120hz screen

[@imk1744]

and film 4k 120 in all lenses

[@regalblack1503]

@@imk1744 this is a very distinct phone 📱

[@imk1744]

@@regalblack1503 yes its not aimed to the average consumer

[@regalblack1503]

@@andyH_England at least it has if it runs 4k all the time the battery will not allow it 🤣

[@ToneysReviews]

The pictures that they took do not reflect what others have posted with the Sony. The biggest problem is the Sony doesn't hold your hand like the other phones. If you do not know how to manually adjust your photo before taking them, then the Sony is not for you. However, if you are an actual photographer the Sony will win 100 out of 100 times.

[@suntzu1409]

Yup. Just like expected, the sony one makes little-to-no changes to photo automatically

[@spkothadia1]

Nice comparison 👏.. I am using both the phones...iPhone 13 Pro Max and S22 Ultra... uses my iPhone for portraits , video and all kind of low light and night photography...uses my samsung for content viewing like video, zoom photography..zoom on S22 ultra is simply unbeatable...love colour point portrait mode on S22 ultra...

[@rokibsumon9049]

Ohhhh rich man

[@rokibsumon9049]

Dr. Sudhanshu kothadia Ohhhh rich Man

[@spkothadia1]

@@rokibsumon9049 😀😀

[@khu6664]

everytime u guys said garbage I know it's Sony. I will buy Sony 2022 anyway.

[@kfx3907]

So your buying a garbage phone for like 1600 bucks lol

[@khu6664]

@@kfx3907 yes because I'm rich

[@CameraRay]

@Max What is the bitrate of the 4k 120fps video files? Also is the saved 120fps file a true 120pfs file or slowed down and saved as 30fps? Will is record 4k longer than 10 minutes in warm weather? Thanks.

[@Tralvids]

Sony’s isp isn’t as good when compared to Apple & Samsung. The Sony is targeted to a group of people who would change every single settings, full manual control. If you were to shoot in raw, then edit it later in Photoshop.. the other 2 even with their RAW capabilities in use as well such as Pro RAW for apple & Expert Mode for Samsung, I have full confidence the Samsung & Apple is miles behind when compared to the Sony… It would be great if you were to make a RAW shooting comparison. By pushing on what you can do with the native camera app; applying the same edits you get the idea…

[@steffenkawa8374]

Yeah the normal software/normal camera is really bad on Sony. It's a shame they have the hardware but the software just sucks for normal users. My xperia 5 II takes nice photos the photo pro app bit 99% don't want fiddle with their phone all the time

[@paryonoono5019]

Miles behind? Really? Tell me does the last year sony phone have real good update? And is it reliable as smartphone photography now? Is it more reliable than Apple & Samsung? And if you still try to defend sony for your day dreaming reason, second hand dslr is waaay more worth than that overpriced sony phone

[@ES-qy2ju]

@@paryonoono5019 yes because the camera is way faster and you dont miss nothing, the only camera fast enough is the iphone, but with Samsung? Good luck launching the camera before the moment you want to take photo

[@zaynys]

That "What?" reaction though! 19:18 and 22:15 😂😂😂

[@simbiat]

I would consider doing a 2nd round once you are able to get actual production version of the Sony phone (or at least its firmware) and also using both photo apps that come bundled in it. Not in order to "defend" Sony, but precisely to get it a "fair" chance, since in this video Xperia 1 IV is a pre-production unit and it's unclear which photo app is in use, so it's possible that final version or different app can provide different results. To save time, you can compare it only against S22, since it won this competition.

[@Eener1000]

As someone into photography, the "flat" Sony pics looked like with editing in software to bring up the contrast etc to the other two phones, the Sony pics had way more potential.

[@bluerainbug]

Interesting test. Tony and Chelsea conducted a very similar test and came out with surprising results putting Sony ahead. I guess it's true, Sony's market caters to a small market niche who use their phones vs mainstream consumers but kudos to Samsung engineers for being ahead in the computational photography game and have the formula for what matters to the average consumer.

[@jzda1slabrider852]

I love these camera comparisons it was Samsung then iPhone the Xperia really couldn't keep up.. I think the Hesperia will be good for somebody who does raw photos and Photoshop

[@shattered115]

If you want to take photos as a photographer use the money to buy a Sony RX100 Mk VII. Smaller than a cell phone, lens goes to 200mm. Pop-up viewfinder when needed. Modes run from full auto to total manual with everything in between. You can carry extra batteries and swap as needed. SD cards, easy to buy, easy to carry extras. Shoots jpeg and/or RAW. Shoots 4K video. Viewfinder can be tilted into multiple positions. You can edit in Photoshop on a computer with a proper sized screen. The point being while smartphone cameras are getting very good, if photography is what you want to do and you are willing to learn photography, cameras still fit the bill. The RX100 Mk VII is a tiny powerhouse of a camera.

[@indieke]

I love still my MK III, after all these years. But night shots are very noisy though. Maybe that has been improved.....

[@Lenniefinch]

I think Sony have to make taking photos as easy as other phones. The hardware might be amazing but most people won't be able to use it with the UI/UX

[@cijojohn8680]

Because its not for the 'most people' Professional photographers are the main focus of it, especially those have a sony a1

[@asdsdadsdsa7495]

If I'm only mirrorless camera user , rarely take videos. But love to take pictures , love Mode M,S,A in my camera. Is it worth to buy this phone? Or is it better to just buy Samsung or Apple.

[@LeVolture]

On the protrait modes i choose the Sony every time since it did not have a blurry background

[@TomTomdog]

Its not all about image sensor. Apple uses LG's camera module including image stabilization. Thats why apple's camera shoots so well

[@tecialist]

WE NEED A REFERENCE SHOT FOR SUCH COMPARISONS.

[@polarpenguin3]

"I was really fair to the Sony" *Includes a photo blatantly focused on the wrong thing* Sony still hasn't been released so hopefully they can improve the camera a bit. My Xperia 1 III photos looks better than these.

[@gamingnation6756]

Sony is not intended to compared with others brands where AI does the job You need to shoot in RAW and do some post processing Or manually adjust the settings according to your need Not for some photographer who just wants to capture the best shot with just one click

[@fancycavegaming620]

I wonder if the s21 Ultra will get at least some of the SW tweaks of the S22 Ultra? I hope so, it would be nice.

[@LikBatonBoot]

I'm waiting for Sony to make a one-camera phone that does everything from wide to macro to zoom.

[@praveenabeysinghe6038]

Watch professionals using the 1 mark 4....yeah, Computational photography is a weak point for the xperia, but the ones who knows how to use that camera comes with the best images, and it creates true to life images(that's the biggest weakness for the current generation😏) .. And night photography is also a week point in xperia..

[@marcromodevivar]

in fact, he mention that he need to use manual to get a reasonable good image in the xperia, even then, it was the worse

[@praveenabeysinghe6038]

@@marcromodevivar watch for some professional youtubers, then you'll see for yourself...

[@umu8934]

LoL Sony phone camera is not a point to shoot mode... that's why they put manual settings for you... they branded it as pro photography on the go, that utilize manual setting so you can use for.... iPhone and Samsung had manuals but they are focus on ai results of their algorithm