Best Choke for Winchester Long Beard XR - Carlson's vs. Muller vs. Mossberg

[@wisconsinhunterwhitetail5040]

Thanks for taking the time to do these tests for us, much appreciated. Great job!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks for watching!

[@eduffy4937]

Just bought my step son a new over under 12ga for his 12th bday tonight, and a box of longbeard. He just finished gun safety on saturday. He will be so excited to get to pattern and use it next week for turkey opener.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

That's awesome! Such a great age to start.

[@eduffy4937]

@@TheNewHuntersGuide yes sir. A father has to hook them on the outdoors early or risk losing them to video games. The 2nd option does not exist in our world.

[@dennisvandergriff7757]

Nice job, George. Keep up the superb work! We hunters do appreciate your dedicated efforts 👌.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much!

[@terryclark9603]

You are right test test and test.as for price goes lead is the way to go. Number 6 shot is the way to go. Love to watch you test all this stuff. 12 ga.680 choke is a good avg.choke thanks for what you do to teach us about shooting art's. Terry Clark in Alabama.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much Terry!

[@heathalford4721]

In my Mossberg 835 I went with the patternmaster code black turkey & in my 935 I went with the Jebs headhunter .655. Had a couple carlsons I tried. They went to storage

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@thomasburns4034]

Thank you for another helpful video !! I was wondering the same thing as I’m getting ready for turkey season and using long beard .

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@jeffbarris8172]

Best advice i heard in awhile! Pattern your gun and choke! Thanks George another great one! God bless you and go get them in the marsh!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much Jeff!

[@andrewbottrell1048]

Keep it up George

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much!

[@Kjeddy16]

Thank you so much, just bought two boxes of these shells

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

No better lead on the market that I've ever seen!

[@charlesprater979]

I have shot that same shell for several years from a Remington 870 with 21" barrel and a Indian Creek .665. It averages 185 pellets in a 12" circle @ 40 yds. Also you need to clean the barrel between shots to remove the polymer build-up as this will affect patterns.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

That isn't bad at all. Why a 12" circle?

[@charlesprater979]

@@TheNewHuntersGuide No particular reason. That's what I started with 40 yrs ago and have just never changed. This will be my 40th season

[@andyvincent5150]

Great job George! Really enjoy your videos and the time it takes to produce then. BTW, Muller is pronounced like Dull, so Mull…er, not Mule…er. Keep up the good work!

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks so much for the insight!

[@michaellane1661]

Awesome info sir! 🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@adambeeck9626]

Have you ever tried the JEBS headhunter? I absolutely love there waterfowl one

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

No, I'll have to look into it. Thanks!

[@bent5434]

Great video

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thank you!

[@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984]

Great video and perspective on just much DIFFERENCE there is from one Choke to the next. No 2 or 3 chokes will Pattern the same, even chokes of the same type can impact differently.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks!

[@livelaughlove20able]

Have you tried the black diamond Indian creek turkey choke .660 construction by chance with the 940 pro turkey and longbeard #5 or #6 and if so what did you think about it?

[@burkejones8277]

I know you can’t check them all, but Comp-N-Choke built a choke around the LBXR. I don’t know how much better a choke can work with my gun. It is superb. In my gun, LBXR’s pattern better than those, but I am shooting 3.5’s.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks, what shot size are you using? I found not all guns like all shot sizes equally when it comes to lead thurkey ammo. I'm not sure I have the best combo for this gun right now.

[@burkejones8277]

@@TheNewHuntersGuide I use 5’s. But I spoke to the folks at Comp-N-Choke, and the guy I talked to said that the choke I had at a .665 constriction was designed to shoot 6’s the best. I can never find 6’s anymore. However, 5’s shoot very tight. I remember 6’s shooting a very uniform pattern but more forgiving than the 5’s at close range. But that 12 gauge will be my backup gun next spring. I have gone to a 20 gauge with tss.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Nice, thanks. @@burkejones8277

[@toddbunnett640]

Here is a fun fact. I use my factory full choke with long beards in my browning maxus, SBE2 and Super vinci. With the long beard choke was shooting a baseball size pattern at 20 yards and a basketball size pattern at 40 yards. I like a tight pattern but thats too tight. With the factory full choke I am I get about an 8 inch pattern at 20 yards and 20-22 inch pattern at 40 yards . . . . just enough wiggle room for a mistake lol

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I agree, you want some margin!

[@raybobkowalski2154]

Your channel is so much better & informative than that blue collar outdoors there a joke you are the real deal keep up the great work man ❤

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks for the support!

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

"Lets see how well this choke patterns #9 TSS"...

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

^^^ @Raybob ^^^

[@ICECOLDOUTDOORS]

Trulock has a Long Beard XR choke that would be interesting to see compared to the Carlson's

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Really? I wonder how they fanangled the licensing on that.

[@hunterfdm2944]

Hola ese cartucho es tugsteno? Y otra consulta que escopeta usa? Muy bueno su canal amigó saludos desde chile,

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks! No this is a lead cartridge and I'm using a mossberg 940 pro turkey.

[@juliusjames5577]

All 3 were very similar. Slight nod to Mossberg choke. I think do 5 of each and then compare the average. Might get the same result might not. I shoot rob Roberts .655 choke out of my sx3 Longbeard shotgun 12guage. So far it’s done the best of the chokes I tried including carlsons.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

It's interesting that the long beard choke seems to have patterned better out of my old shotgun also. I agree, no game Changing differences here.

[@chuckmartin7418]

Everyone will draw a 10" circle for turkey or a 30" for waterfowl and adjust the circle with the majority of the pattern. My question is, what about the point of Aim point of impact with a fixed circle.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

That comes later. You pick a choke and ammo combo that gives you the preferred pattern and then adjust the optic to put it exactly where you want it.

[@TODinWY]

Hey George. Have you tried LongBeard out of a Patternmaster Anaconda Striker?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I have not yet. I reached out to Patternmaster, and some others to see if they'd lend me a choke tube or two to test, but no luck yet. It is super expensive to buy chokes to test in one or two videos. I can only buy ones I think I will use many times. In the first week of this video, KZbin paid me less than $3. That just hasn't been sustainable. YET.

[@twitch.merritt8483]

As always great testing! I am in the market for a 940. How would you feel about waterfowl hunting with the pro turkey 24inch or is there something specific that makes the waterfowl pro better? Anti corrosion ect?

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

You could definitely use it for both. Only downside is I would probably take the optic off for wing shooting. But that's a small price to pay for a multi purpose gun for sure.

[@mrsmith9079]

The longbeard cartridge is very interesting. You know what resin they use? Smash-plastic. I am not joking. I've read their patent and it specifically names the brand. Yes, movie glass xD

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Wow, never knew the details on that. I guess that is what it takes to make the best lead load on the market lol.

[@earthquakemagoon2505]

Best thing to do is test how your choke and shell choice work together.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Yes sir

[@jasonrosenberger8157]

Great videos however you can't really say you're trying the "best" choke tubes on the market without testing the Indian Creek black diamond strike or the code black turkey from pattrenmaster... great videos tho definitely like the channel...happy hunting

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Thanks! I looked into getting both of those at one point, couldn't find them in stock for the constriction/gun I needed. So they aren't really on the market, lol.

[@jasonrosenberger8157]

@The New Hunters Guide yeah they're hard to find everywhere lol great job with the channel tho

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

@@jasonrosenberger8157 Thank you!

[@dariusnorris6145]

I’ve got a question what is construction

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

It's the amount that the choke tube squeezes the load tighter than the barrel diameter.

[@johnwest2396]

I've always felt turkey chokes and "turkey loads" is just marketing hype. I use 28 gauge with Factory full choke, with basic 6 or 7 shot, even used smaller target shot, and I've never had a problem taking a turkey. Granite I'm not taking 40-plus yard shots either

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

How close are you shooting?

[@johnwest2396]

Don't get me wrong I know a lot of people use different turkey chokes and turkey loads and they do have their place and they do take long shots I guess for me personally I just really never felt the need for it my farthest shot was probably maybe 20 yd guess I'm lucky I've always had them come in close with that being said could i have gotten potentially more turkeys shooting further absolutely again my personal opinion I just don't feel the need to spend all that extra expense I also know my gun limitations and how different size shot patterns through it

[@Randy-ti5ci]

Primos tite wad .660 with the long beard

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Haven't used it, but I'm sure its good!

[@garrettrowe7917]

Way more to a turkey pattern than how many pellets in a 10” circle at 40 yards. Especially if you miss like you did here. Most turkeys are shot within 25 yards. Muller pattern was heads and shoulders above the others.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

I don't think you could say head and shoulders better, but I agree, it's a narrow way to test patterns. But there is only so much one can do in a single video.

[@Snailz5]

I disagree. The Mossberg pattern was best if you’re running an optic. The spread was as good as the mueller’s, but without the voids. If you’re only running a bead or 3-dot then obviously go with the mueller’s. If you can adjust your POI, the Mossberg is best.

[@lfcox5660]

Best choke isn't the choke you tested.

[@TheNewHuntersGuide]

Wait a few weeks, I'm repeating this test with 10 chokes.