Best COH2 Allied Armored Units Ranked

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[@GreyshotProductions]

Guess who forgot to add the KV-1 this time... My quick thoughts. Overall it has very good armor, an ok gun, but a cost that is a little expensive for what it trades to get additional armor with a T-34 gun. I would rate it B tier. It's good but for the same class a Churchill is definitely more bang for your buck and has better abilities / specials.

[@Wookien]

Is the cromwell still a good crusher?

[@VCGGBPS2]

its a defensive tank for trenching in to increase defense and fire rate

[@leonardogomez8812]

I do think it is pretty underpowered for its price, if it were given the same special ability as the kv8, I think it would be a great tank lol

[@novkorova2774]

Churchill has also the best quotes in the game, you can feel how chill the crew is behind 6 inches of armor.

[@Temmoie]

KV-1 is basically just Churchill tank, armed with okayish gun that will have troubles against heavier tanks like Panther, Tiger 1 and 2, along side Elephant.

[@comradestrawberry1876]

Timestamps: ISU-152: 0:58 IS-2: 2:14 KV-8: 3:00 Greyhound 4:00 Armoured Car: 4:45 T-70: 5:25 Stewart: 5:47 Calliope: 7:10 Pershing: 7:28 KV-2 8:12 Bulldozer: 9:15 Wolverine 10:17 Jackson 11:12 Centaur 11:25 SU-85: 12:15 SU-76: 13:05 Firefly 13:49 T-34/76: 14:30 Churchills 19:02 Comet: 20:42 Sherman 76: 21:20 Easy Eight: 21:40 Cromwell: 22:17 T34-85: 23:20 Valentine: 24:06 KV-1: You guys have to forget a tank, don't you?

[@thesicksadnesspt2]

My baby the KV-1 :(( B. tier tho, good armor but wont allways kill a panther and very expensive. dissagree? let me know.

[@comradestrawberry1876]

yk tsu Yeah I’d probably give it B tier as well, it’s one of those tanks you get because you need a heavy tank to hold the line. Tbh I think what it’s got going for it is the cost, (correct me if I’m wrong) but 120 fuel is the same as panzer IV, and the KV-1 will do well against that. 440 manpower is a bit high, but when you’re out-capped with fuel it’s not a bad choice, because a T-34 won’t hold a VP. Offensively with good micro you can work it with penals or zis if you’re desperate enough to accept the casualties.

[@baconbliss4796]

would it be right if they didnt

[@tihy9s168]

Thank you. So much. Was here for the U.S. only.

[@thisgameisrage6944]

The first time i played the callope i didnt see the disabled main gun thing so i chased down an enemy tank and didnt know why it wasnt shooting

[@makarov718]

LOL

[@omarabdelaty634]

same here, i think it used to shoot in CoH1, but the rockets costed like 125 ammunition

[@RomeoPaparonjr]

@omarabdelaty634 but in mobile it don't cause it coh1

[@Filthy_Freeaboo]

Your Jackson is actually a Hellcat :P

[@Phrogoid]

i wish it was for real tho

[@MasterSteve_117]

@@Phrogoid Jackson > Hellcat

[@Phrogoid]

@@MasterSteve_117 *dies of cringe*

[@MasterSteve_117]

@@Phrogoid ?

[@osvaldoromeros.7115]

@@MasterSteve_117 i mean it has a better gun, but the M18 was way faster, the M18 had less armor tho

[@levydondoyano7715]

I heared "sucker" like thousand times

[@HorseshitDetectionAgency]

that's because these guys are fuckboys

[@bechetfelix8612]

The Comet works wonders against a lot of infantry. I think it is excellent together with Fireflies

[@mikkel066h]

Yea I would argue the comet is better then the churchil. Since the Churchill suffer from shrek blobs and panthers.

[@imperialguardsman5929]

Then you're not playing it right. Heavy tanks are supposed to always be supported by infantry or other vehicles especially at its flank because that's their most vulnerable spot. Churchhill is actually pretty great as a damage sponge, bunker busting and distracting enemy tanks while your ATs flank them

[@theminuskai7453]

@@mikkel066h to be honest, the comet suffers more against shrek blobs because at least the churchill can tank them

[@dmytrotkachov6859]

T34-85 is a beast. My favourite medium tank hands down and it is far better then the E8. T34-85 shreds infantry, while having decent armor penetration for a medium tank.

[@jangelnar5624]

Dmytro Tkachov Sure, sure. There’s just a slight problem...Comet is better in just like every single way. Better gun, more mobile, about the same armour (if not better?), shreds infantry as well and has much better veterancies.

[@dusk6159]

@@jangelnar5624 Yes but Comet is the elite, it's unfair to compare it with any other allied comrade (in fact I don't know why it's damn C tier in this) lol

[@jangelnar5624]

Dusk TheHunter None of us do

[@dusk6159]

@@jangelnar5624 ? You just did, by mentioning how the T-34 85 is greatly inferior (true, but apparenlty is C tier LOL) to the Comet.

[@dusk6159]

@George Rome The main point in fact is that they're both very good to great, nothing less than B.

[@Raven5431]

Lol sherman calliope the tank with an idenity crisis.

[@mr.bantman8189]

I'm a huge fan of the t70. They're small, squat, and absolutely deadly to pesky flanking mgs.

[@benedictjajo]

I agree firefly is S tier because 2 of my firefly destroyed panthers with 3 or at most 4 shots while my infantry shoot their rifles or whatever it is at the panther in the frontline. And btw, I just found your channel, I love it so much because there ain't any COH channels out there and you guys put out great content for fans of Company of heroes. SUBSCRIBED!!!

[@future_guardian5_gaming]

Sherman 105 is actually pretty fun to use part of my meta if u got some good teammates helping get supplies early it will shred most thing except mediums and higher

[@sparxdestruxion6268]

IS-2 tier C?????? Maan it can 1v1 a tiger(IS2 has a frontal armor that equals the KT (375), slower rate of fire but better penetration than the tiger), and then you say it loses to a panther in 1v1 ???!!

[@enigma9902]

They must be drunk. No other explanation than that.

[@Corgi_Leonidas]

But it does lol , panther beats is2. Why is it so hard to understand .p

[@enigma9902]

@@Corgi_Leonidas panters are op af but they dont, sorry. Try the cheatmode and you'll see.

[@sparxdestruxion6268]

@@enigma9902 yeah cheatcommandsmod2 ftw mate

[@sparxdestruxion6268]

​@@Corgi_Leonidas Lets do a small comparison: Panther: -HP= 960 -Frontal Armor= 260 -Main gun Damage= 160 -Main gun Penetration= 240 close to 200 far -Main gun Anti-Infantry capability= below average IS-2: -HP= 1040 -Frontal Armor= 375 -Main gun Damage= 160 -Main gun Penetration= 250 close to 210 far -Main gun Anti-Infantry capability= Good Take into consideration that the formula used to determine the chance of penetration for the tank shell is: (Main gun penetration/ Opposing tank armor) x 100 So for the panther the chance of it penetrating the IS-2 is 64% at close range and 53% at maximum range. For the IS-2, the chance for it to penetrate the panther at close range is 96% and at maximum range 80%. I did the math for you bro, now please do me the thinking.

[@houstonsmitherman6888]

I noticed about the Pershing. I noticed it didn't have a roof MG. I then noticed during one battle the commander throws grenades and rather accurately too.

[@stuglife5514]

For me personally my best experiences has been with Sherman’s. My go too is to build 2 regular Sherman’s and the commander call in 105 bulldozer Sherman. The Sherman’s are fast, well armored, and great for both defensive and offensive. I’m a defensive player on the US so the 105 is a big help for dealing with assaulting infantry and making defenses and I use my other two Sherman’s as reactionary units, relocating where needed

[@felghanalavochkin200]

T-34/85 is the best all-round medium of all the allies, good pen and damage, very nice mobility, only downside is the low health but again its price is reasonable, and it also have the ram as a last resort, in many occasions during 2v2 and 3v3 I build 2-3 of these and a su85 to follow, they murder the big cats with ease

[@jonnypelletier5013]

Dont be sleeping on my su-76

[@PvPene]

I was just reading a real life story of a t-70 crew who stumbled on an entire convoy of german armor. they destroyed a panther that was at the front and then somehow managed to disable like 3 more. god tier

[@XMysticHerox]

Gavan Brown yeah CoH2 makes you think heavy tanks are invulnerable. In reality at close range even the smallest gun could penetrate armor. A greyhound destroyed a KT irl with 3 shots to the rear from 26 meters. T34s and Shermans should both easily pen Tigers frontal armor at the ranges in the game.

[@mihaelvulchev7003]

I read about BT-5 tank knock out Tiger then 2 panter only by shoting them in front and capture 2 armored division .

[@vicentegalleguillos6563]

Yep, its like road to valor, all vehicules can damage any tank

[@zolafuckass8606]

Not really god tier. Probably just good tactics. Cut off the head, kill the rear, pick off as many as possible while they're confused.

[@garlkurzer]

Whats the name of the story/battle

[@KitzuneHideki]

i want bob sample in COH3 :v

[@Hippykiller67]

It would have to cost 1000 manpower, 1500 fuel, and 1000 muni. It would dominate all who dares to face the might of this beastly machine

[@S0LUT10N]

Semple*

[@brettroper1031]

Best allied armour is T34-85 chan. Respect her thickness.

[@darklysm8345]

respect her thickness with my 88mm

[@brettroper1031]

@@darklysm8345 oof

[@callum105]

love the firefly, the american british hybrid

[@grftaNitro]

AVRE can shoot like 2 times per minute thats. So fun to use

[@Evangeline.F]

It's funny to watch this over a year later with all the changes to the tanks and meta and how some tanks likely shifted around. Like, Comet now would, imo, be easily an A tier, Churchill off to B or C tier, IS-2 also would likely be at least B tier, if not A tier, Cromwell is A tier, Valentine imo goes straight up to A if not S tier. Not a criticism to you guys, just so much changed in this time. For reasoning, btw: Comet: With Churchill getting such a high pop cost and with the buffs to it, it certainly no longer is the inferior option. It's the one allied non-heavy that can 1v1 a Panther and have a decent chance of winning, it can kill infantry, it has the WP shell to screw over crew weapons (including AT guns), it doesn't have Blitz, but with Hammer, you still get Warspeed. It costs a lot, but it certainly is worth it with the proper micro. I would say, even if you just want something in front of your Firefly, the Comet isn't as beefy as the Churchill, but it adds another gun to the fight that just punches German armour and it has the agility to do a pursuit, which neither the Churchill nor the Firefly can. Churchill: It just costs too much pop. It still is a solid tank, but it ties down so much pop. IS-2: Got a good bit more predictable gun in what the shell does, still quite inaccurate, but it's now at least worth it. heavy tank changes make it a bit more of an issue to build around, if you lose it. ISU is less threatened there, but IS-2, if you get it, it can now actually do its job. Also, the HE shell is great. Cromwell: MG buff helped make this thing pretty damn wild. I saw valid cases of Cromwell spam the way Axis can spam P4. Given it also gets smoke shell, this thing is certainly a great all-rounder. Valentine: If this was the Valentine when the Brits got their revamp, with 7 pop cost, this would be guaranteed S tier. I'm still not sure whether it wouldn't belong in there. Even if I do not grade this tank for anything in the stupidly powerful doctrine it comes with, except the Sexton (due to the Valentine's ability), the Valentine for what it costs is just great value. 5 CP is a bit late for light vehicles and is a bummer for stuff like the Greyhound, but the Valentine is actually a light medium tank. It can take two fausts to get the engine knocked out, it can fight axis LV and win, it is a squishy Cromwell otherwise and you can go for a Cromwell, then get this thing and together they will basically beat any armour the Axis can throw at you at this point. Its AI game is decent, it has the observation mode like a T-70 and while it doesn't have the track shot like the AEC or the engine shot/weakpont shot of the Stuart, the Sexton barrage being independent from the Sexton CD just allows this to throw out so much artillery with a Sexton or two, it makes OKW cry. Given the ability also is Vet 0, as Royal Arty, if you need something gone, it is a valid point to get this thing late game, run it around the flank with its great speed, find whatever you want nuked and drop the barrage in a suicide run. The barrage bypasses the range limitation, so you can get the kill on some OKW T4 or something with this, which can be worth 80 fuel.

[@garlkurzer]

IS-2 sucks

[@pineapplelapolynesia1994]

In my opinion the M10 Achilles should have a better penetration stats than the M10 Wolverine because of the fact the British mounted a QF-17 pdr in place of the US M7 3-inch

[@rifle3888]

relic dont have the ability to mount the 17qd to the m10 model so we gonna have to deal with it

[@joneszer1]

Greyshot ima need an update in this. I’ve got like 1,000 hours in the game but I’m still such a noob w/ tanks. I wanna know the best tanks and the tanks that are secretly beast.

[@KeASiLeNT]

My T34 and IL-2 say it's S tier and a guaranteed kill on a panther and below. Decent chance on tiger to delete. And king elephant or jadgtiger if its damaged a little already.

[@kenjidekaijou3983]

I cant believe there wasnt an assault gun called The Platypus

[@sargothi]

I watched this entire video in hopes of wanting to know where they'd place my favorite tank the KV1 and they didnt even mention it :(

[@TheGirard62]

they put my comet in a C tier, am sad abd disapointed now

[@ildottore7032]

Man we are literally hunting COH2 KV1 videos lmao

[@blazing289]

Why is the canoloipe at f tier when it’s not supposed to even fight tanks it’s the US version of the rocket arty lol

[@XDwpnoobImanAdult]

the aec car wil win an engagement against a panzer 4 from either faction, because of the smoke and the special shot

[@eddiejrbation5095]

Greyhound reminds me what the Riflemen described it.

[@brrman4089]

Isn't the calliope an artillery, it's not really that bad when fighting against infantry it can literally wipe out entire squads with the rockets. It could deal a little damage to tanks to or even kill them if you get lucky hits.

[@ultimate26]

you guys forgot the lend lease m4c sherman

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

It is the long barrel one that is not tge Easy 8

[@Loomismusic]

you guys consistently underestimate Pumas

[@j.c.4404]

I will admit being a panzer 4 fanatic that I am I am very scared of KV-8 everytime I see one I will gun for that bad boy the same way I will gun for isu-152 they scare me.

[@onyxdragon1179]

Imo I would switch the Firefly to tier A and the Jackson to tier S, I generally find the Jackson easier to use despite the Firefly having more potential damage thanks to the rockets. And I know tank destroyers aren't great vs infantry, but I find the Jackson has better chances to hit infantry

[@TopHatHat]

Turret traverse, simple. Jackson has wayyy quicker traverse.

[@mauriciorv228]

I mean the pershing can beat any panther and i believe it’s on par with the tiger 1.That’s fairly heavy if u ask me.

[@possum456]

no a pershing ins't on par with a tiger. It would lose a battle to a panther in most cases

[@dariosrna5731]

as allies if y need anty infantry abilities on your tanks its some thing wrong on your playstylle and y far behind on early game. su85 wall and one t34 to ramm / FF wall and Churchill to absorb and scout.

[@titouanlange396]

You Forget the kv 1 😢

[@mikkel066h]

And the American 76 sherman. They had the soviet one

[@pavelseredenko9515]

1xt34-76 = C tier, 1xblob t34x76 = S++ tier

[@wirysage]

What about the Soviet Sherman? That thing is awesome.

[@100Kakdela]

I decided to drink whenever he said "sucker" and I am now wasted af

[@TheOis1984]

3:00 i agree, IS-2 is just a bad investment. its main gun misses more often that it hits, the damage is not as great as its sound and visual effects, and with the resources one can buy 2 and a half T34/72. these T34s (mediocre as they are) can manouvre better on the field and be more useful than the lumbering IS-2

[@OOa007]

Can you guys do me a favor and write down the tiers for those that can't watch whole movie

[@SomethingDangerous1]

Use the names...

[@possum456]

I wish they would add the hellcat to coh2

[@panzerabteilung]

i fear much more the comet than the churchill

[@mikkel066h]

What have you guys been smoking. Comet with warspeed is god tier. Can hunt down any rocket arty. Good damage, good armor and best of all WP smokes at vet 1 to break up blobs or wreck German AT.

[@mikkel066h]

@ZoSo221 "Too fragile". Dude the tank is not made to slug it out with panthers. With its speed and armor it is made to do flanks and chase down low health armor.

[@joshelguapo5563]

They must have buffed the comet because it's amazing more

[@applejuice90]

Where is KV-1. This is reminder from previous comment

[@alexreznov45]

KV1 is A tier, same gun as T34, lose ramming ability for more health and armor.

[@PROJECTJoza100]

Are they twins?

[@brremsilverte.9022]

The caliopie doesn’t have a gun because it couldn’t fire its gun irl.

[@thertsgamer5451]

Bet it could

[@thertsgamer5451]

But*

[@brremsilverte.9022]

@@thertsgamer5451 it couldn’t actually. You can look it up if you don’t believe me.

[@SuperCrazf]

I would argue the greyhound deserves to be C tier because it’s cheaper than a Stuart and I’ve been able to lockdown sectors with just two greyhounds quickly murdering infantry. Wolverine/Achilles is ok in C but deserves more credit because it’s faster than a Jackson and can flank easier. The other day I was able to get a vet 3 Wolverine that was just murdering panthers and PnzrIVs

[@scorpiontdalpha9799]

These idiots use M10 like the M36 so they don't know the magic of M10

[@Storlans]

Ger armor makes all All armor at the best okish:(

[@DerFuchsJr]

is this list still viable?

[@chungusbek9636]

which one is better? M4C Sherman or T-34/85 ?

[@blazing289]

T 34 85

[@marremane]

11:12 that's a Hellcat from CoH1 lol

[@housambarakat9279]

M4C sherman is hands down the best medium tank there is

[@brrman4089]

The T-34 is literally just so Soviet.

[@rockman11414]

You missed the E rank

[@cg1red350]

oh yeah baby spam the Tigers SPAM THE TIGERS.

[@zzirSnipzz1]

Love Tigers you kite them with fire fly and kill them easy lol

[@northernkantomonkey868]

Who dares to blaspheme against the glorious t34

[@gatekeeper_]

sad thing about is 2 is even panther can beat it

[@randomguyblank1616]

maybe you guys shouldn't have put all the allied and axis tanks together in a group if you were going to do separate videos on the tanks

[@GreyshotProductions]

I agree, we should blame the person who made that dumb decision... 151.

[@dusk6159]

Rip the victim Kv1

[@dusk6159]

@@GreyshotProductions Btw, any main comment to mention and rank the Kv1 like you did with Sturmtiger last tier list? Or for eventual new patch changes like the Tiger Ace long awaited correction?

[@bige2576]

Pershing b tier?

[@hospod163]

I feel like the t70 wrecks the luchs if you micro ok

[@mihaelvulchev7003]

T70 wreck Luch even if you leave it afk lol .

[@Spykitty358]

Greyhound and Sherman D tier. Yet there my tools of distruction when combined correctly.

[@vicentegalleguillos6563]

In road to valor: ww2 they are S tier

[@TheOis1984]

what's the difference between Wolverine and Jackson? they have very similar description and role, but the price difference is noticeable

[@VCGGBPS2]

Wolverine has weaker stats than a jackson. Only positive is speed.

[@magdarloongii563]

The M36 houses a 90mm while the M10 has the 76mm

[@mikkel066h]

Wolverine - Pros - Faster reload, Speed, Cheap to build, Cons- Worse pen, Worse damage, Pay to get better damage and pen.

[@TheOis1984]

@@magdarloongii563 so an M10 Wolverine is more or less a SU76 with turret?

[@magdarloongii563]

@@TheOis1984 the M10's barrel is alot longer than the SU 76 meaning it has more penetration

[@bulletkingaming2808]

I dunno why they debuffed the calliope. The real design can use its gun. I dunno why relic never made to excel this tank. Even the rockets are shet compared to the katyusha.

[@applejuice90]

They should make it 6 population with its current capability. Damage wise 70% less than katyusha(both hit count and damage in total), and the cooldown is very long compare with the performance.

[@jangelnar5624]

Juben Domli Balandra Balance for fucks sake. The real design of Tigers and Panthers had much better optics than any allied tank destroyer and yet their range is much worse...for obvious reasons, if it were just like in real life, allied tanks would be instantly dead.

[@dusk6159]

You do realize that that great (leagues above Panzerwerfer, better than Stuka zu Fuss and only below the elite Katyusha and Land Mattress) self-propelled rocket arty with its cannon, and so Sherman capabilities, would destroy everything, right? You would even give it its actual Sherman armour I guess?

[@Tymek247]

@@dusk6159 and right now calli is completely useless, worst arty in game

[@OneThiccSamurai-vn5se]

The bulldozer is the best.

[@johnariespepito6252]

Where's the KV-1??

[@nuggetsmcchicken9309]

Comet...is S tier tank....

[@miko886]

2:38 Abd that is undreal

[@zihaoyang8947]

Kv1?

[@izayo4447]

an overprice T-34

[@mihaelvulchev7003]

Panter win vs IS-2 is like ... god damn this is so outdated and farm from reality :D

[@dageogaming4478]

The guy that walked in is based, i agree with his toughts

[@Corgi_Leonidas]

Greyhound deserves A , because in 1v1s and 2v2s if you going recon support you have to recon and if greyhound gets vet up , it will reveal half of the map.. and in addition .50 cal that it has is great while you preventing someone grabing point. With raid tactics , you can capture the point or deny your opponent doing so. Overall, it is great light armor.

[@C3WhiteRose]

Greyhound sight is better than M20?

[@Corgi_Leonidas]

@@C3WhiteRose i do not know , sorry

[@multicrogamer]

Churchill is only good vs pz4s. Otherwise you need to tech up and get him. It's weak vs heavy armor and only feeds vet. I would rather have 2 cromwells or comet than churchill.

[@dusk6159]

Oof, AVRE worse than Sturmtiger and in A tier instead of S, compared to ST reaching even S tier looool, maybe that was pre-patch.

[@multicrogamer]

IS-2 should have more pen and 200dmg but slower reload , ffs its 122mm gun. Damage should reflect that. At least 200 dmg with 8 sec reload, i did math back in day, DPS would stay same vs tanks. IS-2 was known for slow reloads but 1 shot penetration kills. Why not reflect that in game?

[@tancakar8987]

if you saying stuart is S rank :D you probably not playing Americans alot. Yes its an okay tank but against puma no against inf not really may be very early game, soon as inf get snares anti tank this thing just dies so quick, it doesnt have no smoke, so ones the engine damaged , 90% of the time its dead!

[@BboyLancelot2]

Pershing has more pen, hits more often, and has a rotating turret when compared to the IS-2 (as stated by you guys).So... how is it 2 tiers lower than if no negatives were listed in comparison to the IS-2?

[@dogancanaykan]

Do you mean ISU-152? They put IS-2 in C tier.

[@BboyLancelot2]

@@dogancanaykan yeah thanks for the correction

[@zmyslowykalosz]

it has less damage, less range, less HP, less splash damage (cannot wipe) and isn't russian

[@Trab8900]

Ace - the voice of reason

[@ibr9himovich]

IS 2 --> C? really?

[@tomsiderxk6751]

yes

[@abelcompany1556]

Good armor with garbage gun

[@Khlaid77]

if you buff it with intel bulletin still C average.

[@HooverShrimpster]

117 looks like the guy who did Christchurch

[@benitomussolini1361]

The Colliope is a artillery unit, so what would be the point of it having a gun. Rate units in there intended role.

[@alexislopez16]

M20

[@alexadre2142]

t 34 lower, su 85 higher, isu 152 lower and is 2 higher; is 2 is the only tank that i have seen to bounce an elefant shot, gun still garbage

[@MrMegamarth]

T-70 = S ++

[@ericyuan9718]

Compared to the axis ratings they rated, allied armor > axis armor confirmed

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

KV2 s are only good in video games. Did you know that if it was parked on even a slight inline in any direction, it couldnt turn its turret because it was too heavy to turn. It was only good for blowing up pillboxes and bunkers and anything that doesnt actually move.

[@gringokillah9543]

Dude, you can say same thing about almost any of Axis heavys IRL.

[@Akeno0002]

@@gringokillah9543 Not really Kingtiger wasnt that broken when Germany still had the capacity to produce them. However every tank has its flaws. Though i must say the KV-2 wasnt an excellent tank but it was still a tank. Hence it held out an entire panzer division.

[@thisgameisrage6944]

Kv2 was meant to be an artillery defence tank

[@enigma9902]

Come on seriously, IS 2 weaker than the perishing come on...

[@enigma9902]

@Expired Milk still it's not a match for the is2

[@enigma9902]

@Expired Milk yeah but in the end it's not about how strong is the weapon as long as it can get the job done, it's about how you use it

[@GuuMonster]

I think IS-2 vet 3 is worse than Pershing vet 3... IS-2 might hit harder but misses a lot

[@nightforalessia]

sherman is S tier if you have 57 of them.

[@C3WhiteRose]

A Sherman vet1 with radio net 3 can kill a Pz4 vet3. Having 4 Sherman vet1 go together will destroy everything.

[@cervik2035]

@George Rome That would depend on the crew capabilities, and conditions. The M4 Sherman with the 75mm cannon could take out long-barreled Panzer IVs in several cases.

[@cervik2035]

@George Rome Specifying the variant would also help. Shermans upgraded with the 76mm guns could easily knock out a Panzer IV from the front at longer distances, no matter the Panzer variant.

[@cervik2035]

@George Rome Never hurts to make absolutely sure, does it? Earlier in the war, in Africa, Shermans had success against Panzer IVs, as they weren't as advanced yet, so it's really down to skill, grit, and luck.

[@cervik2035]

@George Rome While the M4 Sherman (I guess this is the variant we're talking about) couldn't stand up to later Panzer IVs, it was by no means a bad tank. It was used in a way it wasn't made to fulfill, it was an inferno trap with the gas engine, but, it was a very versatile tank, able to provide infantry support, mechanized transport, destruction of emplacements, and fighting less armored German vehicles.

[@theholyroman6283]

ah yes. 360p squad

[@GreyshotProductions]

And it's good. Just have to give it a minute.

[@theholyroman6283]

@@GreyshotProductions Thanks

[@callum105]

if u got a calliope wheres the sexton

[@savajovic6719]

Shermans s tier lol

[@imperialguardsman5929]

Its a pretty versatile tank as it can easily switch from AT to AI and vice versa and its also pretty fast in its own right. The only downside is it can still be destroyed in a one v one by its Axis medium tank counterparts. But its versatility completely more than makes up for its weaknesses

[@maxg1836]

Ace is smarter than both of u

[@BIGluisluis]

The strange thing in the game is the Shermans 76mm, 90mm, the british 17pdr( 17pdr HV for Comet) and the 85mm Russian cannon could easily get rid of Tiger, but in the game is so hard, and the IS-2 and 17pdr using Sabot can easily penetrating a Panther in the UFP, but in the game is so fucking difficult to make this with allied, the only tanks that could be a really threat in the Late Game is the King Tiger, Elefant(Ferdinand) and the Jagdtiger, the Tiger is really obsolete and Panther maybe is a little better than the late allied medium tanks, The game really chooses to portray tank combat only by the myths that TV shows propagate as Tiger and Panthers invincible.

[@sirilluminarthevaliant2895]

Essentially the german factions tank overperform. Their given far better armor because rett coddles their German players. No way a panther bounces a 122. Bow on earth a pz4 deflects a Sherman 76 shell is beyond me. They just read the forums and nerf any allied tactic

[@headphonesz6527]

Allied(especially usa) needs less pop cap on all tanks so you can out number the German tanks, just like real life.

[@headphonesz6527]

The Pershing is waaay to expensive for how weak it is as a "heavy tank"

[@Ricardo42901]

Stuart S tier? seems like you haven't played USF, It got nerfed quite a while ago and is really useless againts infantry compared to other light vehicles, takes so many shots to kill a light vehicle and overall I think it shouldn't be S tier.