Best Combo for Sawyer SQUEEZE! Better, SAFER and Easier!

The best combo for your Sawyer Squeeze water filter is not the CNOC bag, it’s a great bag but it doesn’t fix the biggest issue with the Squeeze! This combo with the HYDRAPAK system is great! Easy to use and not to heavy and make collecting and filter your water much easier.
I bought the Sawyer Squeeze last year and let me tell you, the included bags are just crap! I tried them out and really gave them a chance but NO! For this system to work you need another container for dirty water... so I gave it a thought and found the Hydrapak system and LOVE IT! And i hope you do to!
For more information about the products shown in this video, just follow the links below.
Sawyer Squeeze Water filter and more
www.sawyer.com/
www.sawyer.com/products/squee...
Hydrapak bottles, caps, adapters and more.
hydrapak.com/
Bottle - hydrapak.com/collections/wate...
CAP - hydrapak.com/collections/acce...
Adapter - hydrapak.com/collections/acce...
CNOC bags
cnocoutdoors.com/
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[@tysonbrown249]

I used to have trouble with the seal washer falling out, but I discovered the problem was only that I was over-tightening the filter when screwing it onto the CNOC bag. Once I learned how to properly tighten the filter, which is fingertight plus maybe a quarter turn, I have never had the seal washer fall out, not once. The filter does not leak at the CNOC connection when tightened in this manner, either.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Good to know and good advice, thanks!

[@oot-n-aboot]

That's really slick! Thanks for sharing this.

[@jjhikespa3600]

Looks like a great system! I love my hydrapak bags. I will have to try this system out. Thanks!

[@roberthammenrudh]

Glad you found it worth trying, was out last weekend and just love it! So easy to work with 🙂

[@user-nz5rt8ft4p]

Thanks for this great video, bought the Hydrapak bottle and adapters. Fantastic, so easy! Like all your other videos as well. Into bikepacking not hiking but your videos are totally relevant to that also. Cheers.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Super glad to hear you enjoy my vids and find them also useful for bikepackning! Thanks 🙏🏻🙂

[@rarknivesandleatherwork8045]

I just cut a new washer from a stiffer viton rubber, no problem with it getting pushed into the bottle mouth, no leaks and far less likely to fall out. A spare washer is 30 seconds work to cut.

[@Jakelol1980]

Thank you for this great tip. I was going to buy a Sawyer Squees and CNOC bags but now i bought this instead. Just awesome tip :) Best regards from Sweden :)

[@roberthammenrudh]

👍🏻🙂

[@armwrestling_nerd]

I use the Mini, using an ordinary pet bottle since the threading matches perfectly, so you can have any pet soda bottle to collect water and squeeze. I've never used the bag that was included the mini,it just didn't seem feasible to use

[@res5139]

Fantastic video with great in depth details!!

[@roberthammenrudh]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@summittaedae2323]

I literally do this same thing with my cnoc bags with a hydration in line connector. I just bought an extra thread cap from eBay for the sawyer. It’s exactly the same but if I never had this I’d easily be on board with your set up too

[@shanksmare]

The CNOC bags look to be better when the water source is very shallow. I live in the western USA so this is common. They also look to be better for hanging (as someone else mentioned and you addressed in a different comment) and that is my preferred method. And as David said, I too carry a spare o-ring. Never needed it myself (so far), but did give it to a needy hiker one time. I liked your video and you made enough good points that I might try your system.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Glad you liked the video and consider trying the system, and yeah…the CNOC bags are for sure a good choice and like them myself! And if you can live with the seal and like you say, bring a spare, why not 🙂 the big opening is great to have!

[@kristymoore7052]

Great video. I’ve used a combination of sawyer, katadyn and hydropack. Also used the cnoc. Am impressed with my hydropack and you may have sold me. I’ll get the adaptors and try it out. Subscribed.

[@roberthammenrudh]

First off all thanks 🙏🏻 and welcome to the channel! 🙂 and I hope you will like the adapter/cap system as much as I do!

[@NyajanyHoth-op2gp]

Thanks you for teaching

[@1024Pete]

Thank you. Very helpful!

[@roberthammenrudh]

👍🏻🙂

[@Juanlu.]

Te he hecho caso, Robert, ya me he hecho con los tres componentes, y sí, parece todo mucho más sencillo (y más higiénico que con otros sistemas). Gracias por tus consejos Un saludo desde España!

[@pR13S7]

I've just got the same combo of adapter and cap and it's amazing

[@roberthammenrudh]

Good choice 😄👍🏻

[@_NickB_]

Great system thanks! I'm using a Hydroblu Versa Flow currently, which makes up for the (really) low flow rate by being able to screw a CNOC bag on either side for lazy filtering. I was considering a Sawyer, but Hydroblu have an activated carbon add on which I really want to try out, especially with peaty water

[@BigBensBigVideos]

This is the system I use as well. The double-threaded Hyrdoblu eliminates the need for adapters.

[@queennieniebob]

Happened to have a video of how it works Love to share mine it's a disaster. I really wanted to love that VersaFlow but it was more like leakaflow.

[@_NickB_]

@@queennieniebob I have noticed the same, especially in warmer weather there's a bit of leakage out of the top. But I never filter into an open container, I'd use a katadyn if I had to - I just screw a Cnoc bag on either side then there's no cross contamination. Having tried the carbon filter attachment as well I do still love it for peaty ground where the water is going to be brown otherwise, but I do prefer a katadyn for hikes with cleaner water

[@Praise___YaH]

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[@mehmetkupeli8611]

Greetings from U.S.A. Thank you my friend!

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hi 👋🏻🙂

[@lid7954]

Thanks. Very useful!

[@roberthammenrudh]

🙂🙏🏻

[@PolarRed]

I've been using pretty much the same setup for a few years now, for exactly the same reasons. The only difference with mine is that I use Hydrapaks Seeker bags rather than the Flux, the adapters fit and they have greater capacity, use 2L for attaching the Sawyer and a 4L for storage of the filtered water.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Great to hear 👍🏻 maybe go for the Seeker if I found the 1L to be too small 🙂

[@DirkBonaventura]

@@roberthammenrudh Hi Robert, thanks for your videos so far. The Seeker is also a little bit lighter than the flux. My seeker 2L only weights 74g and you can use it with the katadyn be free if you have the need to do so.

[@roberthammenrudh]

@@DirkBonaventura thanks 🙏🏻 😊 and also for the info regarding the weight!

[@davids9549]

I've always carried a spare O-ring for my Sawyer (Micro) - never needed it yet. You're right about those Sawyer supplied bottles, worse than useless because they have a tendency to burst at the join with the neck without warning, leaving you without filtering options in the wild. Evernew and Platypus bottles have never let me down like that, so I just use a 1.5L Evernew (35g) for filtering and a 2L Platypus (26g) for clean, using my coffee cup (the one I also pee in during the night, Wildo fold-a-cup large size in case you're interested) to gather the water and pour into the Evernew. The simple Sawyer coupling (4g) joins the clean end of the filter to the Platypus bottle and will also facilitate backflushing in the field and gravity feed. It's not as fast as the full Squeeze or the Katadyn, but it's fast enough for me and it's reliable and about as lightweight as it gets.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Sounds like you have found a system you like and rely on so then off course, no need to change! 🙂👍🏻 a lot of people are suggesting the Evernew so gues they are high quality 👍🏻

[@VapourTrailz]

+1 on this system, punch some holes into the reinforced portion of the Evernew bag, attach some dyneema cord and remove the rubber washer from the blue adapter included with the micro squeeze to prevent hydraulic lock - presto ~94g system! Pro tip - push the gusset in the bottom of the Evernew bag in and you have a super cool storage place to roll up your filter.

[@davids9549]

@@VapourTrailz Love the Pro Tip! My blue adapter didn't come with a rubber washer iirc. I take it you're attaching your cord to holes you've made in the base end of the Evernew bag? To hang up pointing downwards to use as a gravity feed?

[@VapourTrailz]

@@davids9549 that's correct - over!

[@Praise___YaH]

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[@nigelshort8669]

Was about to order cnoc bag before I found this video. I really like this especially as already own a hydrapak seeker. I like to set up as gravity filter which is easy with Sawyer or cnoc bags? Does dia of of the plug play reduce flow rate of sawyer?

[@toddclay5674]

Just ordered the Sawyer Squeeze, good idea but like others I have found the Hydrapak Seeker 2 litre leaves the water with a funky taste.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Not a thing I have noticed but well see, maybe it’s because it’s new 🤷🏼‍♂️ what did you choose instead, the CNOC?

[@toddclay5674]

Please let me know on that as I haven't ordered anything yet and what you have worked out is great. I have Gregory 3D Hydro 3 litre bladder which is great with no funky taste. Maybe the Sawyer Squeeze takes out any funky taste so the Hydrapak soft bottles just good for questionable/dirty water collection only?

[@DiabloOutdoors]

Bladders are known to leave a bad taste to water. Wash it with lemon juice, or a mix of water and vinegar. Then rinse with sodium bicarbonate and a last rinse with fresh water only.

[@jeffbonzerpeterson]

Super easy Smart water bottle any size you want to use and cheap and easily fits on your packs side pockets.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Not a bad solution at all, just like the Hydrapak system with click on-off better 😉

[@drivingmissmolly]

I think the best/easiest system is using 2 “smart water” 1L water bottles. Have one for clean water and one for dirty water. Filter one bottle of water and then fill the other with dirty water and just use the sawyer squeeze like a straw on the dirty water bottle.

[@zoegagnon3651]

I switched my system to a CNOC "dirty bag" and smart water clean bottle. Filling a smart water bottle is a pain, especially from shallow water sources. Its also easier to push water through the filter by rolling up a bag than squeezing a bottle. I found the weight difference wasn't too much for my pack.

[@cameronlanham4490]

That’s exactly what I do. Or I’ll filter the water into my bladder and keep an extra dirty water container to filter later. Never been a problem

[@Dave-bl6go]

Thanks for the video. I was looking at the CNOC bags so was doing some research when I came across this video which alerted me to a potential issue. I noticed that HydraPak has a Force hydration bag which seems similar to a CNOC bags except with a Plug n Play connection instead of a 28 mm opening. Could the Force hydration bag be used instead of the bottle and cap with the adapter, which will still give the benefits of the CNOC bag being that it opens on the other side for better water collection?

[@roberthammenrudh]

That’s an interesting combination, seems to be the same plug n play connection so it seems you can, if you have the adapter on the sawyer you could click it into the Force bag directly… haven’t tried, but looks possible! A bit strange angle maybe… if you decide to buy it, please let me know!!

[@zoegagnon3651]

You may be able to use the adapter and cap on the CNOC bag if you add another o-ring to the cap. That should create a seal, and you could leave both parts on, since you can fill the CNOC bag from the other end. This also helps with very shallow water sources, since the HYDRAPAK can't lay flat like a CNOC can.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Yeah. That’s also a possibility off course 👍🏻

[@robingood62]

I never had any problems with the original Sawyer water bottles, use mine for years now. Never lost any seal ring for my Sawyer.1 But just in case I have always a spare seal ring in my pack.

[@wildcamping189]

Very cool. Liked and subbed! 😉😎

[@roberthammenrudh]

Welcome to the channel 🙏🏻

[@DiabloOutdoors]

First time here and I was a bit skeptical at first, but cool video. A few points here: - I never experienced any problems with the seal, but maybe some people did. - You can use a garden hose o-ring to replace the one from the Sawyer. - You can also cut a little piece of one of those cheap blue pad and make an o-ring (did that for the mini). - The Sawyer Squeeze come with two inline adapters and I think it could fit instead of buying the Hydrapak's one (maybe someone can try and tell us). - The Hydrapak system you showed us is nice, but I'd use that only for short hikes, The Cnoc is still best if you need to filter lots of water at base camp. - The Hydrapak system is nice, but two Smart Water bottles is still a lot lighter and costs way less. But Hydrapak + 1 Smart Water is less bulky. There's always a trade-off when it comes to the outdoors ;)

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hi 👋🏻 and thanks! And good points, even if I prefer this setup with the Cnoc both are still good and like you say, it’s always a trade offs when it comes to hiking and the “perfect this, or that” might not exist! Just what you prefer with least trade offs based on your own experience. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻

[@minniyoutubaster]

I haven't a clue why my o-ring-gasket has a tinier "donut-hole" than the ones I see in vid's online including robert's. Can it be because mine is from an older-made batch?

[@dougieranger]

Thanks for this Robert. I’ve been looking for a better solution since my CNOC Vecto got holes in it. Unfortunately I had to order from three different suppliers, cost me almost £80 all in. 😂

[@roberthammenrudh]

yeah… had to order it myself from two different suppliers 😄 I hope you will like the combo as much as I do! 👍🏻

[@dougieranger]

@@roberthammenrudh Thank you brother, I’m sure I will.

[@srbontrager]

I have the Cnoc VectoX 42mm and the newer version of the Hydrapak Plug-n-play cap(black latch ring). This fits and is air-tight. However, make sure you completely remove the original Cnoc cap with the ring that holds the cap to the bottle. That ring prevents the Hydrapak cap from screwing down tight enough to where it isn't air-tight(which would make it leak).

[@roberthammenrudh]

Thanks for the input, I will check it out! 🙂

[@srbontrager]

@roberthammenrudh No problem. I happened across this video after I had already ordered the Cnoc bag and Hydrapak cap. At first, I was worried, but I was optimistic and hopeful as the cap I ordered was the new version.

[@StephenPopiel]

It looks like the 28mm filter adapter from HydraPak is out of stock everywhere and I'm concerned that HydraPak has just decided to no longer make it. Do you know if there are any alternatives for that part?

[@daven.7685]

What are you using hold the bag for gravity feed? I didn’t see a hook or attachment point. I guess you could always use the mesh bag that comes with the Sawyer filter. Also, you might be able to solve the leaky thread problem with some plumber’s thread tape.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Yea though about that but since you take on and off the cap I don’t know… but could be a good solution for the CNOC when the cap can stay there 👍🏻 I don’t normally use the gravity filtration other than just holding it and that I don’t have to squeeze that much, but yea… you could use the bag that follows, no problem!

[@JamesSmith-or2ut]

you can use the hydrapack also with the befree filter. But, enough about gear now. Time to go hiking now. (yes, looking at you)

[@roberthammenrudh]

Yep 👍🏻 was out on a 2 nighter last weekend but don’t like bringing the camera, take away some of the experience! But you’re right, I should also make some hiking videos, at least once a year! No promises but maybe next time.

[@JamesSmith-or2ut]

@@roberthammenrudh The blackbelt guru of outdoor youtube advertising (Dan Becker) does it all the time ;-)

[@roberthammenrudh]

@@JamesSmith-or2ut absolutely 😂👍🏻

[@ytsrjbrown]

Nice video thank you, I am planning to use the Sawyer squeeze this season after my katadyn pump gave up last Summer. Is there any reason I should not buy the ring converter and use the Sawyer bags for clean water and the CNOC bag for unfiltered water? I feel like they would make reasonable receptors then I could just hang the whole thing up. All the complaints about the Sawyer bags seem to be filling from lake. I am taking 3 other people with me so filtering a reasonable amount.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Using the CNOC is a good idea if filtering larger amounts and to gravity filter into the sawyer bags, will work just fine and like you say, the complaints over the bags is when filling from lakes… but, I would go for bottles instead for easier carry and drinking while moving… for that the sawyer bag is also a bad idea! Smart water bottles are popular but a lot of alternatives exists.

[@ytsrjbrown]

Thank you insightful as always, we have our Nalgene bottles which I cannot persuade to break after all these years so was just thinking I could hang the bags up then dump unto nalgene and repeat. The younger members will be out on the lake playing so i will get to experiment. No portaging this trip so can take options and play. @@roberthammenrudh

[@carldrach]

I wonder if some petroleum jelly or o-ring lube would help keep the sawyer o-ring in place??

[@mtadams2009]

I just use Smart bottles and I have never had any issues. Nice video I just don’t see a big advantage. I use a cut bottle as a scoop.

[@roberthammenrudh]

First of all… Thanks 🙏 and well, the main advantage is less risk of loosing that seal ring, for me when using other bottles it always detaches and often stick to the bottle instead of the filter. Could be me over tighten the connection but 🤷🏼‍♂️feels nice not have to be worried about that! And the quick connection is also a good thing… I believe! But, the smart water bottle solution is lighter 👍🏻

[@mtadams2009]

@@roberthammenrudh I have only used Smart bottles and I have never had an issue with the seal falling off. Thanks for addressing that issue. I am wondering if this seal is available? I would certainly like to carry a back up seal. Take care and thank for making content. You do a good job.

[@prignitz-outdoor]

Eine schöne Vorstellung, danke für’s zeigen.👍 Viel Grüße von Prignitz Outdoor.

[@robertjohnson6299]

I purchased the Hydrapak plus accessories to use with my Sawyer Squeeze as recommended. The issue I am having is that the Hydrapak Flux 1.5 liter bag has a Terrible plastic taste that despite repeated rinsing with hot water, backing soda and lemon juice is not going away. Not sure what to do but the rest of the set up is quite nice otherwise and I really want this to work?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Weird, maybe I’m not very sensitive to taste but I haven’t tasted any plastic taste at all 🤷🏼‍♂️ but what I have seen they also have updated the bottles since I did my review, maybe they change also the composition of the materials for the bottle!’ Maybe you can ask for a replacement?

[@minniyoutubaster]

Re: plastic taste, vinoto & anni respectively complained of rubber & plastic taste 6 months ago. Scroll further down. Hydrapak claims their products are free of BPA, BPF & BPS, but I relate to you as I'm both chem. & electrosensitive. We're like canaries in the coal mine. Most people are leery of us, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

[@MagnusMcManaman]

Very nice video, but could you please share the links to the products you were talking about in the description please? There are so many products to choose from, I don't want to pick the wrong one.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Thanks a lot 🙂 and yeah off course. I have updated the description to also include direct links to the products from Hydrapak I shown in the video.

[@MagnusMcManaman]

@@roberthammenrudh thank you :)

[@sirsir108]

I like to just use 2 smart water bottles I use the little blue caps that come with the system and the hose to transfer from the dirty water to the clean water (with an o ring on the filter side of the hose) it works pretty good no spilling the clean bottle on accident while filling if i were to use 2 o rings you could fill and backwash everytime before you take the hose set up off but I'd like to keep those for spares having 1 sports cap with this set up is nice because if you don't feel like stopping to filter the dirty bottle after emptying the clean bottle you can just put the sports cap on the filter/dirty bottle and keep drinking without stopping

[@intothefoxhole7985]

Did you say the "plug and play" does not fit well and leaks if you try to use it on the "befree" bag?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Yeah, that’s my experience! Tried it on the BeFree 0.6L bag and on the 2L CNOC but leaked on both!

[@utube4use]

Can we throw the filter inside the squeeze bag for storage simplicity?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Nope, sorry… but wrap it around is possible. Myself I just squeeze the bag together and then put all in a small bag together with the Sawyer.

[@doxasticc]

Any ideas how to easily integrate a pre-filter into this system?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Haven’t tried or looked for a combo that works, should work if you find one with the right thread.

[@minniyoutubaster]

I myself had been wondering why there's such a low demand for integrated Pre-filters, considering how debris may cause filters to wear out. It's why I speculated (in above post) about the Accmor shaker. There also seems 2b low demand for integrated Post-filters (such as my Katadyn-carbon-cartridge) which awkwardly dangles from the Sawyer via tubing. Each of these is an extra layer of jumble. Not to mention the fleece "receiving-blanket" my Sawyer is swaddled in for insulation!

[@TennesseeSlim]

Hydrapak has an amazing warranty. They are the best fir water collection and storage

[@alexanderstreett]

Who makes that blue hoodie?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Its an Arcteryx Hoodie, Delta LT Hoodie. 🙂 don’t know ur they make it anymore.

[@squirrel_82]

What if you used plumbers teflon tape around the thread of the CNOC bag? If you're not going to take the lid on and off it should work.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Yeah. Probably works but for not risking contamination of the filter I always remove before collecting water.

[@squirrel_82]

@@roberthammenrudh If you have the quick detach then you can remove the filter and leave the lid.

[@roberthammenrudh]

@@squirrel_82 ah yeah, sorry… absolutely 👍🏻

[@vinoto]

Do you find the bottle leaves water with rubber taste?

[@anninwhack1998]

Mine taste like plastic so now I just use it as a hygiene bottle since I can’t return it.

[@roberthammenrudh]

No I don’t, never thought about it though because the Squeeze doesn’t remove the taste from the source so it might be disguised 🤷🏼‍♂️🙂

[@minniyoutubaster]

Robertjohnson complained of bad taste of the hydrapak approx. 2 months ago. Search above.

[@MrJonnyUTAH]

At over $30 additional It's more expensive than the squeeze itself? cnoc makes a bottle for 14 bucks.

[@minniyoutubaster]

Your idea is so innovative. I have a question. At 3:42 you stated "you don't even need to take [the adapter] off for cleaning". Why on earth would it not need cleaning - counter to the flow-arrow direction?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hi 👋🏻 and yes, the cleaning procedure is counter flow direction using a plunger or bottle sports cap. That flushes out sediment and stuff to get the filter going again if you experience clogging. For that you don’t need to take the adapter off and just flush from the other end.

[@minniyoutubaster]

@@roberthammenrudh Thanks Robert 🙂 what five-dollar filler-item would be most useful to add to the adapters-and-bottle to get free-shipping? Though I still don't understand how the sediment particles can manage to exit the narrow adapter-aperture that's screwed to the other end of the Sawyer. I also don't grasp what you mean by bottle sports cap. How can a sports cap flush dirt out? Also IMO the Sawyer needs a BeFree sorta squeeze bottle as it seems flexible and durable, more so than CNOC or Platy.

[@roberthammenrudh]

@@minniyoutubaster not sure what you mean about the 5 dollar item you want? When it comes to the cleaning the Sawyer Squeeze you back flush using a plunger normally and what also is included in the set from Sawyer. What I mean is, you use a water bottle like a PET or Smart Water bottle and attach a sports cap and use that as a plunger for back flush the filter for cleaning, the sediment you rinse out is small so problem exiting the hole in the adapter! I believe I show this in this movie, or the review movie about the Sawyer Squeeze, so take a look there. Take care //Robert

[@minniyoutubaster]

@@roberthammenrudh OK maybe i'll find your other review, thanks. What I meant to ask - is that you linked to the Hydrapak bottle, the plug-n-play cap & the filter adapter. But the total of those items is $5 short of the $45 minimum required for free-shipping. But I don't know which of their other items is most useful to add as a filler, to qualify for free shipping. I believe some reviews say that cartridges tend to freeze (thus break) in cold weather. So i'm considering sewing velcro to a strip of fiberglass insulation. Then wrapping the insulation around the Sawyer-filter & fastening it with the sewn-on velcro. Or even adding some parachute-cloth to the exterior of the insulation, and sewing the velcro to that.

[@minniyoutubaster]

P.S. I found your other review. Your backflushing info is at 3:50 on Slider. When you stated "dedicated sports cap" I suppose you can use the Push-Pull-Cap that came with the Sawyer, and just screw any bottle you can flexibly squeeze onto the push-pull cap?

[@MRBenchwork]

It's a darn shame that the cap doesn't work with the bag. It seems like the perfect solution.

[@roberthammenrudh]

You mean the CNOC bag? If so, yea totally agree, and was my initial plan. Like my new solution though and works perfectly so happy with it and do recommend it.

[@tomnoyb8301]

HydroBlu is better in almost every respect. HydroBlu is lighter, seals at both ends with lanyard-caps that don't get lost, has the correct (Male, 28mm) threads at both ends for gravity-feed (no adaptors required), back-flush port built-in, 100kL life, inspection-window and no sealing-rings to lose. It's small and looks like the Sawyer-Mini, so people think it can't flow, but it flows better than Mini, Micro, Platypus and BeFree, especially after a few uses. ** HydraPack bag system looks sketchy, but so is CNOC. Besides popping pinholes way too often, CNOC requires opening/closing both ports every fill. Not a fan of Platypus's similar snap-connector, but might take a further look at Hydrapack?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Sounds like I got to try the HydroBlu sometime in the near future and compare my experience using Squeeze and BeFree. Sound like the perfect one! We’ll see how the Hydrapak performs in the long run… planning of using it all season at least.

[@mindfulicious]

Will look into this. Sounds like a better option. I have a Sawyer Squeeze and life straw (which I never use) lol.

[@roberthammenrudh]

@@mindfulicious Lifestraw is a good product on paper but pretty worthless when hiking 🤷🏼‍♂️ my experience anyways… especially when you need bigger quantity’s for drinking/cooking … sawyer or the BeFree or Hydra Blue is the way to go.

[@queennieniebob]

I'd love to see how it works as I purchase one in it leaks like a sieve.

[@alicer7271]

Kan man köpa bara korken och ”kopplingen” och använda ihop med min katadyn bee free påse tro? Vill undvika köpa mer saker än nödvändigt men filtren till katadyn slutar ju fungera extremt snabbt så tänkte byta till sawyer. Gilla detta smarta setup du visade här.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hej 👋🏻, jag provade både med BeFree påsen samt CNOC men fick det inte att täta. Hörde dock att dom gjorde en uppdatering strax efter på locket och att det nu funkar… så min rekommendation är att köpa korken/kopplingen och prova innan du ev köper en ny soft flaska.

[@kyfisher3662]

is your filter broken? never seen one flow that much

[@roberthammenrudh]

Nope, not that I know of. It’s more or less a new one that clogged once and that I have cleaned with my method explained in my other video, so mainly used it for videos and tests. Since then I have only used my Sawyer Squeeze. HOW TO Unclogg BeFree ➕ 7 Things YOU NEED TO KNOW! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZO1maRpbbJ3Zqc

[@kyfisher3662]

@@roberthammenrudh thats awesome wish mine flowwed that well, ill check out your other video, TYs

[@richardhenry1969]

Very nice setup. You really need to re-evaluate yourself if a few grams is to much to carry. I personally don’t understand the ultra light backpackers. Maybe because I’m ex-military. In the infantry we road March once a month for training 12miles usually done in 2 hours. To get into Ranger Bat we had a forced March 12miles in 1hour45 min. With gear and water plus a 45pound sandbag. Everyone’s ruck was weighed before and after. I remember I had to carry 400rounds for the m60 plus the tri-pod. My partner got sick with a few others. When I complained my ruck weighted like 65-75lbs they told me to get stronger. Lol Anyway why are so many KZbin people pushing 2brands sawyer and kayadyn? I wonder why more people aren’t using membrane solution. I say this because after get one, I see the 6l bag model. The 6liter bag model is $28. What really blows me away is it also has carbon filter plus is totally rebuildable. They sell new filters everything can be disassembled an cleaned but most importantly checked. I believe being able to replace a filter for$7. Would be a game changer. Everything you have to buy and rig on the sawyer you get for the price of just the sawyer. Can you think of a reason why not to use membrane solutions? I’m just curious, I’m more a hiking fisherman. I travel to a river or lake then camp. I’m not worried about crunching miles anymore. I enjoy a hike with everything I need to enjoy myself. I like chairs and full toothbrushes 😂 Just my humor but I wonder what’s your opinion on membrane solutions filter?

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hi 👋🏻 as a ultra-light backpacker I do evaluate every gram and if I can choose something lighter, with maintaining the functionality and safety I will 🤷🏼‍♂️ it’s a mentality. Anyways… regarding the filter and why hollow fibre technology and not the membrane well… I would say it’s easier to find light weight solutions, the only mambrane filter and portable and small is the Lifestraw… I think 🤔 if you have any other brands please let me know! 🙂

[@flyer45691]

👏👏👏👏

[@rungavagairun]

4:00 So, you held the system in the air upside-down and said "Use it as a gravity filter." but is there anything to hang it from on the bottom? You were holding it with your hand, but I don't see any way to tether it for a gravity hang. Maybe it's there, but isn't apparent in the video. I like my CNOC. This seems like solving problems that aren't problems (at least not for me). I carry an extra washer for my Sawyer. I don't have trouble scooping water with my CNOC. The setup for gravity filtering is easy with the CNOC. CNOC also makes a collapsible bottle and I would wager it weighs less than these. Interesting product/option, but I don't see this as a winner.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Hi 👋🏻 and yes you are right, no loop exists for it to hang like a gravity filter but, one can use the net bag that follows with the purchase of the Squeeze. The Hydrapak bottle weighs 6 grams more compared to the 1L CNOC collapsible bottle so not a big difference. This system is great if one prefers the click on/off function (like I do) and don’t want to risk loosing the seal. If not the standard CNOC bags are great and especially for gravity filtration.

[@TracySwenson]

Looks like the plug and play cap is no longer available. I used the Sawyer on a 4 day backpacking trip with a 'Smart Water' bottle and hated it. Either gonna have to switch to BeFree or an actual pump if I can't try the set-up you described. I really liked your video. Very well done and informative.

[@roberthammenrudh]

First of all thanks 🙏🏻 and oh, that’s to bad, have to look into this because when I checked like a couple of weeks ago it was still available. I hope they still make them!!

[@kevinstarski1598]

It's available

[@Tobbetuna]

Best solution for Sawyer is getting a Catadyne. :)

[@roberthammenrudh]

😂👍🏻 yeah I like the BeFree as well.

[@davefox1553]

Why not just leave the Sawyer Squeeze attached to the CNOC? At least if you know you are just using to filter and not for extra water carry.

[@roberthammenrudh]

Because One should never leave the filter attached when collecting dirty water, there will always be a risk contaminating it. So for me, a big no no.

[@pallenielsen2463]

Would you prefer the Sawyer Squeeze or the Be Free ? And why ?

[@roberthammenrudh]

I prefer the Squeeze because the ease of cleaning and maintaining the flow! Haven’t failed me yet vs BeFree that can almost block after a couple of filtrations on a hike and you need to work hard for every drop!

[@phillipp1399]

Or just get a platypus quick draw and all problems are solved, including cnoc compatibility.

[@tomnoyb8301]

Got to be kidding. Lose the cap, unthreaded spout, 1kL limit... The thing is junk.

[@phillipp1399]

@@tomnoyb8301 the familiar voice of inexperience. If you lose the cap it’s becomes just as terrible as… all other squeeze filters without a cap. Just means you’ll want a baggy to put it in before you put it in your quilt at night. Unthreaded clean side makes for the simplest back flushes ever. Any clean bottle works, any. No ridiculous extra back flush syringe needed or special bottle cap to sort of work. Backflushing is so quick and easy you don’t need to prefilter super silty water. Additionally, there’s the integrity test sanctioned by the manufacturer so you can ensure your filter didn’t get too cold and that it continues to be be effective even after 1k. After years of sawyers and a half season of be free, I’ll never look back. Junk indeed.

[@tomnoyb8301]

@@phillipp1399 - Don't be so down on yourself for your inexperience. Guess you never tried HydroBlu. HydroBlu's caps are attached so they don't disappear. But you're correct, losing a cap is annoying and inconvenient, but not the end of the trip. Sealing the thing in a baggy isn't going to leak too often? No, but not having threads on the output is really a disadvantage for gravity filtering. No back-flow syringe required when filter has proper 28mm threads on both-ends. Oh, your's doesn't have any output threads? An experienced hiker would know better but hey, you'll get there. It's nice to have HydroBlu's 100kL rating, just in case QuickDraw's 1kL leaves you stranded somewhere? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWGocmygnZahi6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJPUiGWLbrKlo68

[@phillipp1399]

@@tomnoyb8301 you’re awfully worked up about what water filters others use. It’s nice to have interests 🙄

[@tomnoyb8301]

​@@phillipp1399 - Goal is to have manufacturers advance the gear, not go backwards. Quick-Draw is the newest filter and it's a step backward. It's worse than its predecessors. So to have some noob defending the step-backward gives those designers incentive to produce worse and worse gear. This is happening everywhere. NU25 is worse, wpb-dcf is worse, Carbo20000 is worse. Everywhere we look, gear is getting worse and technology is declining. In part, because of inaccurate feedback to product-manufacturers who read these comments sections.

[@fatboothby]

Every hiking/backpacking KZbinr has no idea how to correctly pronounce CNOC, despite the correct pronunciation being clearly stated on their website.

[@shanksmare]

Might be clearly stated, but it is not prominently located. I found it in an image displayed on the About page. I have purchased 5 things from them and this is the first time I have looked at the about page. Always seems foolish to me to have a co name that is hard to spell or pronounce.

[@travisfamadventures9044]

I have watched the CNOC KZbin channel and listened to the company owners pronounce it.

[@007nadineL]

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