BEST Fisheye Lens for Skateboarding? Canon Vs Sony Full Frame Lens review- FX6/A7Siii

[@drestaz]

i like this video a lot. really helped me narrow down my options. the canon 8-15 looks like the one for me.

[@killatape]

Glad I could help!

[@dkproductions]

Dude, your content is fantastic for skate + photo nerds. Between 2004 and 2011, I fucked around filming my friends skate around my hometown on the east coast on a shitty (by today's standards) Sony Handycam. My dream was to film skating for a living. I just wanted to capture that 2000s skating STYLE and show it to the world. But for better or for worse, life took me in a different direction. I now find myself in the fortunate spot of being young enough to still have friends who rip the streets and want to be filmed, but I'm old enough to have a job that allows me to spend the kind of cash it would take to get a decent mirrorless + fisheye + handle + mic setup. Still hesitant on pulling the trigger, and you are answering some of the questions I've wanted to ask the skate filmers I looked up to as a kid who shot skate videos like Menikmati and In Bloom. So long story short - thank you!

[@killatape]

Glad I could help, Much love!!!

[@gustavogalvani6811]

Any tip on adapting a Century MK1 to a Sony Alpha III? Thx in advance bro!

[@killatape]

Honestly, I have no idea how to make that possible. You would need an E-Mount adaptor for it, but I don't know the mount or thread size of the MK1. Are you talking about an MK1 for the VX1000 or for the HPX170?

[@gustavogalvani6811]

@@killatape That´s the thing. It´s the Century MK1 for Vx1000, so theoretically, it´s a "lens adapter." I tried it on a 50mm 1.8, but it made it hard to focus through the 50mm.

[@gustavogalvani6811]

@@killatape Put some rings and the thing doesn't focus up, maybe will work with a similar setup of lens of the vx2100?

[@SpencerFitzgeraldProductions]

Really impressed with your channel! Great vieos and knowledge !

[@killatape]

Appreciate that!!!

[@ever3eve42]

just bought a a7siii for skating w the boys .. this helps a lot thanks !!

[@killatape]

Dope!!! Glad I could help

[@Tricklarock]

An a7s3, 'for skating w/the boys' huh? Must be nice lol

[@gonnabeamovie]

@@Tricklarock lmao fr

[@nasty8893]

I met a filmer (Andy Licardi) for Habitat and Alien Workshop at Dew Tour yesterday, he recommended the canon 8-15mm fish eye also. After watching this I will be making the purchase very soon! Thanks to the both of ya'll. Hope to meet up and film someday, godbless!

[@killatape]

Dope! Andy rules and does great work.

[@lukeschooley9767]

Your channel is amazing!

[@killatape]

I appreciate you! Hoping to get some more content out soon

[@Zaaanuel]

Yoo can you send a link for the metabones for the fx6

[@aldolega]

Great to see some new specific skate/action-sport camera nerdery! The 12-24 isn't a fisheye- it's a rectilinear ultra-wide-angle. Similar angle of view but really a totally different thing than a fisheye. Fisheye distortion looks weird to normies, rectilinear looks weird to skaters, it's all about what you grew up with I guess. I just upgraded to fullframe with a Panasonic S1, with the Canon 8-15. I've only shot with it once but it's been great. The S1 crops to APS-C/s35 for 4K60, so having that 8-10mm range to allow for some slight vignetting, while still covering the whole sensor for photos, is really nice. Hard to beat but it is indeed pricey! I wish Samyang or Meike would make a cheaper all-manual clone.

[@killatape]

There you have it! Explains why I don't like it as my fisheye 🤣 Thanks Al, I appreciate the precise info!

[@aldolega]

@@pushblocks that lens doesn't zoom.

[@killatape]

@@pushblocks Chad commented above that he's going to try that ttartisan out. Interested to see how that thing looks.

[@1nonly553]

Does the Canon lens work with the Sony A7 iii camera?

[@killatape]

Yes but you need an adaptor. I use the Metabones, but I believe there are cheaper options available as well

[@1nonly553]

@@killatape Thanks!

[@stirewaltphotography8400]

@thekillatapes you should try out the TTartisan 11mm 2.8 fisheye lens for the sony e mount.

[@shroominion7529]

I was going to comment the same

[@easkate]

see some 4:3 footage at 10mm? its easy with the limit switch. would love to see some s-cinetone 4K60p footage too.

[@easkate]

also i make vx mk1 and xtreme vignetting overlays if you want to try some out. @wardenjeans is my insta

[@Tricklarock]

Limit switch?

[@easkate]

@@Tricklarock there's a focal length limiter on the 8-15mm

[@intraw831]

How about apsc mode on a full frame?

[@raymondramdass633]

Great video!! I shoot with the sony a7iii and use a rokinon 12mm full frame fisheye and it works great!

[@Dyl_Cam]

Do you get any vig? If so is it crisp in full frame mode?

[@RBUmali]

Great video Joe! FYI you can use an APS-C fisheye such as the Rokinon 8mm on the Sony A7SIII with "Clear Image Zoom" to get similar results to the Canon 8-15mm at a fraction of the price. Best results are with the 8mm Fisheyes that have the removable hood.

[@killatape]

Thanks RB, hope all is well! That’s intriguing for sure. How extreme can you get with this scenario though? I like to go FULL vignette sometimes for a super artsy look. Also, I’ve used Clear Image Zoom on some prime lenses on my FX6 before, but does it not lose some resolution that way?

[@RBUmali]

Thats what's great about Clear Image Zoom is that there is no loss in quality. Unfortunately you cannot shoot in 120fps with it tho. Depending on the lens you are using you can get full vignette but only if there is full vignette without any additional zoom. I also film everything fisheye with maximum vignette and love using clear image zoom for that extra punch when using a 24-105 or 24-70.

[@killatape]

@@RBUmali This is great info, thanks RB! I used Clear Image Zoom on the FX6 before I had my 28-135 and it's definitely a game changer. I think I would consider this route if my Canon got damaged, but I'm kind of spoiled at this point, and I love that I don't have to switch off the Clear Image function in order to shoot slo-mo, which I do quite a bit of. Maybe I'll see if I can find a Rokinon and do a side by side shoot out with Pros & Cons. Much love man, hope to cross paths out in the streets again one day soon!

[@AMOSkateboards]

I came for this comment and discussion 🙌🏽

[@untiromas]

I need some little vignnette, in My FX30,i need some helps please 🙏🏿🙏🏿...i My 7s2 i use opteka 6.5 + zoom clear...not hood lens, the board Brooke My lens

[@RonaldoBeatles]

Hey... Just discovered your channel and Im really looking forward to watch more of your content. I also just ordered the Sony a7iii and Im not looking at which fisheye to buy. I don't want to spend a lot as its just a hobby for my old man skateboarding KZbin channel.

[@killatape]

Right on Ronaldo! Did you get the a7iii or the a7Siii? Big difference, specs-wise. But as some pointed out, that ttartisan 11mm f/2.8 fisheye seems to be a good low-cost option

[@RonaldoBeatles]

@@killatape hey... I actually got the A7iii. I’m just waiting for my lenses to arrive. 7artisans are not that bad. I used it on my canon camera for quite a while. Cheap so it won’t break the bank. Question for you? If you had to get only one lens for your Sony? Which one would you get? They are so bloody expensive...

[@DerekIronwing]

Do you know how to fix the uneven vignetting on the canon 8-15mm? I noticed my left side always has a little bit more vignetting than the right side. Also any idea why the vignetting would be wiggling or looking shaky? Appreciate any help with this.

[@killatape]

Hey Derek- not really sure how to fix the uneven-ness of the vig. Kind of a pain, but perhaps you can crop in a hair in post and then reposition the shot, but I know that's not ideal. As for the wiggling- Do you have any sort of SteadyShot or Stabilization turned on in-camera? tHat is often times a culprit

[@ErikHershey]

Love all the videos you put out. I just ordered the A7SIII. Do you use any nd filters to keep your shutter speed slower or no?

[@killatape]

Thank you for tuning in! I recently started using the PolarPro Peter McKinnon + Mist ND, 2-5 stop. I bought the 82mm version and got some step up rings for my lenses that have different sized filter threads. I'm diggin it a lot.

[@Tricklarock]

You'll have to eventually if you're trying to stay within the 180° 'rule'... Or when trying to make sure your footage/clips match, also while making it easier on yourself in post!

[@alexruka]

Hi, what kind of mount holder do you use?

[@ericguizzetti]

It's been a year, any updates?

[@killatape]

Yo man, yeah I'm still running the Canon 8-15. For me, it's the only fisheye worth using, but that's just my opinion.

[@ericguizzetti]

@@killatape funny I has one but couldn't stand running it adapted. Also for photos the raw files would come out distorted and it was just a pain to deal with. I've been pretty happy just running the 14-35,f4 on my R5.

[@ericguizzetti]

@@killatape I was just looking around on Yahoo auctions and I was able to pick up a Canon 15 mm 2.8 to 200 bucks. So I'm going to run with that and see how it is. I used to have the 8 to 15 and when I mess around with it I'd always accidentally push myself into vignetting. I'd sat around 14 and somehow the damn thing would end up at 13 or 12. Maybe my puppy was just crappy

[@Iggy-REC]

sweet vid! i got Q what you think about the lens 10-18 on full frame?

[@viktorfuenteszarco5812]

Thanks, this video help me a lot. If you make another video where compare 8-15mm canon vs 12-24mm sony. or all 3 lenses, that will be awesome.

[@peteroffline6616]

can you review a cheap and affordable option for sony emount?

[@StephenKazumi]

Curious about the 12mm fishye by Samyang/rokinon for e-mount/full-frame

[@scottlandb6579]

I have a Sony a6000 taking pics and video at the local skate park. Any recommendations for fisheye. I heard you say at beginning rokinon 15mm for crop sensor which is my a6000 but I can’t seem to find a 15mm on Amazon?

[@scottlandb6579]

I also wonder are these auto focus? Stabilizer?

[@killatape]

@@scottlandb6579 Sorry, I meant to say Rokinon 8mm. It's a great fisheye if you're on a budget. I always prefer the Canon 8-15 for it's versatility and how wide you can shoot with it, but I know it's pricey. And usually with a fisheye you'll want to set the focus manually. Auto focus can be too unpredictable because so much depth in the image is being seen all at once, the sensor doesn't know what to try to focus on.

[@killatape]

A lot of people in the comments here like the Ttartisan fisheye for a budget fisheye as well. My guess is that the Rokinon and Ttartisan are pretty comparable.

[@pushblocks]

Try the 7artisan mkii on BH-Photo or Adorama... it's 7.5mm for crop sensor. Full frame on crop sensor is more like a wide angle.

[@scottlandb6579]

Thank you guys.

[@chadday4399]

I just caved and got an a7s iii with the ttartisan 11mm f/2.8 fisheye. I also got the tamron 14-24 just to compare the two. In the past I tried the Venus Optics Laowa 10-18mm on an A7C. I later found out the lens has what's called a moustache distortion, which is real wavy. The lens flares were also horrible if you did any zooming. And the A7C couldn't do 4k60 so I just returned it all. But I can't wait to get my hands on the a7s iii!

[@killatape]

Interested to hear how that ttartisan lens looks! Seems like a great deal!

[@chadday4399]

@@killatape Here is some test footage with the TTArtisan 11mm Fisheye - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYTMeqqNf7NsfKM The only issue I have is that it wont import into Catalyst Browse, the footage is not compatible with the stabilizing features of Catalyst Browse.

[@shroominion7529]

@@chadday4399 hi ! Thank you sp much for all this, few will appreciate your comment ! I am fighting between the ttartisans and Laowa 10-18 like you said. Also what is caralyst browse ?

[@chadday4399]

@@shroominion7529 Catalyst Browse is software that Sony created that allows you to stabalize footage in post after you filmed it. It uses gyroscope data from the A7siii to do this, and it works very well. I think my issue was I shot at a frame rate that didn't support catalyst browse.

[@chadday4399]

@@shroominion7529 Check out this video for Laowa 10-18mm footage. You'll see that when the skate goes slightly out of the center of the shot they looked oddly distorted. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYnRd5SspMuhj8k

[@bjoux21]

Gracias por tu video me quede con el Sony, muy buena inversión al ser más foto que video esta espectacular. Thanks for your video I kept the Sony, very good investment as it is more photo than video, it is spectacular.

[@shroominion7529]

WOW ! what a small but precise comment section ! Its the year of fisheyes and sony cameras ! Cannot decide to go ttartisans or laowa, i never thought the cannon would be a choice for so many pro filmers, i still dont get why thow

[@killatape]

I personally just like how wide you can get with it. Those others are fine choices but for street skating I prefer the ultra wide fisheye look

[@shroominion7529]

@@killatape and what lens is your choice to achieve that?

[@killatape]

Shroominion the Canon 8-15mm fisheye

[@ms.7584]

Hi TheKilla Thanks for super fine video. I looking for a good fisheye lense to make 360 pano on a Sony A9/A7 fullframe and the Canon 8-15 a pupping up. I also make video A7Siii but it is for stills to stitch for 360 pano. Do you have a hint if this Canon 8-15 can be good for thar job. Thinking on use Sigma MC-11 adapter I also look on SAMYANG 8MM T3,8 VDSLR II SONY E CSII. But it a fix lense, but for a totaly other price. Regards from Morten

[@killatape]

Hi Morten! I'll be honest I don't know if this would work for that or not. The only experience I have with 360 stitching is with cameras that do most of the work for you, i.e. the Insta360 One X

[@ms.7584]

@@killatape Thank you 👍

[@snyderman77]

When shooting skating in high frame rates like 120fps do you still need a high shutter speed for crispness or does the 180degree rule apply for that?

[@killatape]

I generally disregard the 180º rule when shooting skating. I'll find myself bumping shutter speed to 1/250 even if I'm shooting at 60p. I'm sure some people would think that's faux pas but whatever works I think!

[@Tricklarock]

'They say' - always use the 180° rule. I have a Panasonic ag160. It has 3 nd filter stops, but I too, also find myself using 1/250 instead of an ND filter. That's usually when the lcd is saying 'no filter', and the first setting is too dark.

[@Tricklarock]

@@killatape I think if it's close to being evenly divisible by the frame rate, it still works, ie - 120 x 2 =240(250 close enuf!) Or at least works better than random settings?! But in the end, we both know it's all about getting that usable gold, despite certain aesthetics!

[@ReginaldEsque]

I finally bought the 8-15 f4 Canon....

[@killatape]

Yeah it's really a great lens. Pricey, but well worth it IMO

[@LukeMegBiking]

awesome video

[@killatape]

Thanks!!!

[@radio-future]

Been trying to figure out what lens would be great for my Sony AX-53. I hear rokinon are good but idk which one. Do you have recommendations for the camcorder?

[@JonPlarr]

Damn, this was a great review. Canon all day for me but I'm pretty surprised with the 28 adapted results. Not bad at all

[@killatape]

Agreed! Thanks for tuning in!

[@rickydaher]

can i run the canon 8-15 w metabones adapter on a sony fx6 and still have autofocus?

[@sosoentertainment2896]

Hey man what adapter do you use with your canon 8-15mm fish eye lens to match with your Sony cam.. I have Sony a6600 n was looking to get the lens but don’t know what adapter to pick ?

[@killatape]

Hi Esai! I use the Metabones adaptor. You don't need the Speedbooster version, and it's probably actually better to not go with the Speedbooster if you're using a camera with a full frame censor. LMK if you have any other questions!

[@43tilinfinity]

thoughts on the Samyang/Rokinon 12mm f2.8? Should be the FF equivalent of your aps-c 8mm?

[@killatape]

Good lens for the price. Still not wide enough for my taste, but I’m just in love with the Canon and there hasn’t been a lens yet that has changed my mind.

[@BEVVY2025]

I’ve already got the canon 8-15mm just wondering if it will work on the Sony paw-fs5?

[@BEVVY2025]

Pxw 😂

[@killatape]

Yessir! You just need an adaptor so the Canon lens will fit on the Sony E-Mount

[@BEVVY2025]

@@killatape thank good saves me some money

[@JohnHill]

oh what the fuck! i was looking for a fisheye for my sony a7siii and to come across the santa cruz filmer 💪 dude preciate you

[@killatape]

Hell yeah John!!! Thanks my man, appreciate you stopping by, keep killing it!!!

[@pooltheboy]

grabbed a full frame kenko fisheye for a panasonic palmcorder. the lens is really small compared to the frame and if I zoom in, the fisheye effect decreases. Is this because the sensor is 2/3? any way to fix this?

[@tobylemke666]

Hey bro, i have a sony a6500, does the full frame lens fe 28mm and converter also work on this camera since its not a full frame camera? Does it affect the quality? Thanks!!

[@scottlandb6579]

One more question. Is a gimble not necessary if using Sony 28mm with fish eye adapter taking advantage of Sony stabilization when filming skateboarding? Sony lens and adapter $800 Rokinon 8mm fish eye and zhiyun gimble $600 I’d rather have to Sony 28 mm for Sony a6000 as a prime and fish eye adapter for skateboarding. Anyones thoughts would be greatly appreciated

[@killatape]

I’ve never used a gimbal for skate filming. Not once. I’ve used it for more cinematic scenes following an actor but that’s about it. I will say the A6000 is a smaller and lighter camera, so it will be tougher to keep it steady but I believe you can do it, it just takes practice. I’d also look into some things to build the camera out and make it bigger and heavier. The EZ Handle that Jason Hernandez made for DSLRs is a good choice, if you can find one.

[@scottlandb6579]

@@killatape so based off that would you do the Sony lens and adapter of gimbal and rokinon lens

[@MegaShadowman83]

How is the autofocus speed when using the 8-15 with the metabones adapter on a sony? I have an a7iii and wondering if the autofocus will be fast enough

[@killatape]

You'll have to double check this, but I don't believe you can use AF when using a non-native lens. I never use AF on a fisheye any way, so it's never been a problem for me

[@chadday4399]

What do you think was wider and/or had more barrel distortion, the Canon or the Sony with the fisheye adaptor?

[@killatape]

I personally love the Canon and will be sticking with it. Sony with fisheye adaptor just wasn’t wide enough for my tastes but is still a great lens if you’re not looking for that super wide fisheye with the option of adding vignette

[@neverfeather]

thank you

[@DigitalGenki]

I've waited years for someone to review the Sony 28mm with fisheye. Do you still get autofocus with the converter? Is it quick for video?

[@killatape]

I didn’t test the autofocus because I don’t use autofocus when shooting fisheye. But people in other reviews seem to think the AF is fast and precise.

[@davesmith3238]

im tryna adapt an mk1 to my a6000 because thats the best fisheye for skateboarding ever !

[@killatape]

Dude. Lemme know if you figure that out. NOTHING beats a VX1000 fisheye IMO

[@cristianmartin8992]

Great job 🤟, I have a Sony a lll I'm searching for my first Fisheye Len for skateboarding I’d like your advice for getting a good Len with a low-budget thanks 🛹🔥🐍

[@MegaShadowman83]

When using the 8-15 with the metabones adapter, does your continuous auto focus work while shooting video?

[@killatape]

No, but it’s not usually a good idea to use autofocus with a fisheye. A lot of times the focus will go in and out because the camera doesn’t know what to focus on.

[@MegaShadowman83]

@@killatape thank you so much for the answer! ive really been looking for a fisheye solution for sony for a couple years now.

[@R66Snowy]

i don't like compact photo cameras and lenses. footage looks weird shaky and jelly. it looks like there is a club of interests FX6/A7iii

[@clownhoe]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@killatape]

Right back atcha nephew!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@clownhoe]

@@killatape these vids are awesome!