Best Hammock Camping Tarp

[@_00sophia00_]

This was exactly the set up I was looking for! I've been longing to go camping with a hammock but needed the privacy of a tent. This just solved my dilemma. Thank you River Kings.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Sophia Yurkiv awesome!

[@Musickfreakbrown]

Ditto

[@Shipfixer]

THis tarp is perfect for bikepacking too. I can pull my KLR under it ald have my hammock in there. tents are okay but this setup works almost anywhere. Thanks for the upload. Greetings from Alaska.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Shipfixer! I love AK!!

[@larryconley6801]

I have been hammock camping since 2008. I also have the Warbonnet Blackbird (XLC). I camp year round but must say, I've been cold due to wind blowing through. I ordered the tarp as soon as I saw this video and will take it on its maiden voyage in the NC mountains next week. This is an awesome setup.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Larry! Keep me posted!!

[@kellyjiroch2305]

Thank you so much for sharing this information! 8yrs ago I was paddle boarding in Lake Washington with a friend and we ran into some colleagues in their kayaks. They were excited about their new kayaks and shared with us their camping adventures in them. I was so inspired. It became a goal. Its taken a long time to get here, but I finally have the kayak and all the gear. Your channel has taught me so much about how to do this. Some of it seems so simple, but I would not have known what to do without all that I have learned on this channel. My parents love viewing the outdoors from a warm house. They do not camp. Therefore, all I know about outdoor adventure I have had to learn on my own by asking questions and watching channels like yours. I am so excited to go on my first kayak camping trip this month (weather permitting). I have purchased a Kelty 16 and will be (practicing tomorrow) then trying this configuration somewhere along the Buffalo National River in AR. I also watched your video on how to ensure it's fully waterproof (thank you for the heads-up). Thank you so much for all you share.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Kelly! Keep me in the loop on your adventures! Thanks!

[@heyduff]

I watched this video, ordered the parts, and hung my tarp with this method tonight! Great method! I had been using some Dutch hardware, which is really convenient as long as the lines do not get all hung up when stored--but they always become a rats nest--much better to have no hardware and have nothing to get all tangled!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Chris!

[@captainpinky8307]

@@RiverKingsKayak Very Nice! I was watching "1 Bike 1 Cat" and he had a silermar set up as he traveled over Europe with his Cat.

[@JasperJanssen]

The idea that just lines with no hardware can’t get tangled is *seriously* optimistic.

[@jameskolar9655]

That knot, is a hitch of course. A Trucker’s Hitch to be exact. I like your use of S binders , quick and effective. An interesting vid, thank you.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks James!

[@ElementofKindness]

I'm not particularly a tarp/hammock fan, but that is the slickest setup I've ever seen!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks! Give it a try, its a game changer!

[@elijahnapp]

If you’re not a hammock and tarp fan then you have never used it.

[@ElementofKindness]

@@elijahnapp You're correct, I haven't. (yet)

[@ronaldclement8395]

Just picked up a new Kelty 16x16 after watching your video. Looking forward to setting up the winter configuration for the first time this weekend. What better time than when North Florida is experiencing 16-20 degree Fahrenheit weather with a wintery mix. Will be using this tarp allot when setting up in the Alabama and Florida swamps during the winter and rainy months. Will let you know how it goes and thanks for the video. 23 1/2 years retired Navy here. Thank you for your service Brother!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I think you are going to love it! Thanks and enjoy!!

[@Harulee2278]

That snake was pretty cool at the start. That's why I always watch my step when camping

[@jeremycastleberry]

King snake i believe. Love those guys.

[@tenhirankei]

I wouldn't say cool. I give snakes a wide berth or right of way. And I don't bother about whether they're venomous or not, I treat them equally. You don't threaten me, I won't threaten you. Pointing a selfie stick at a snake is a threating act to them.

[@CarlosRomero-ou2qh]

Black indigo snake

[@eillo84]

Hammocking: when I sleep alone , I prefer to be by myself

[@RiverKingsKayak]

It was a Rat Snake. They are very common here in NC.

[@foreverepic2331]

Nice vid...a few years back I purchased the same tarp and added two dbl zipper to both ends works awesome also put down a hex tarp as a footprint and use tarp clamps to attach to tarp making is all but air tight

[@RiverKingsKayak]

That sounds pretty sweet!

[@GreyBeatle]

I love the Niteyes gear. I recently purchased the same hooks, a pile of them to use in the same manner. Neat little tools! Wish we had them years ago. Those little quick draws that they first came out with on Eureka and Outbound tents years ago are nothing in comparison to how strong those are. The larger hooks go right up to 1250 lbs breaking point and 500lbs working weight. Great items! The truckers knot tutorial was good too, considering I'm a trucker.... I've been looking at the Warbonnet Blackbird myself for about four months now and am at the point of breaking down and getting one. Looks like a good secondary set up for warmer weather environments. Don't think I'd risk being cold in the ultra colds with it tho, I'll stick to my trusty old ways when it comes to dipping down to the -40 C range at night. Until I get the courage to try it in those conditions. But for rain and spring and summer, I'm willing to try anything with my trusty -42 Outbound sleeping bag.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Neil Mavin check out Shug on youtube...he frequents the cold cold in hammocks and quilts! Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!

[@sm1thers]

I use CamLocks Its not something Ive seen others using (Im sure there are others out there), makes so much sense for throwing a line up quickly. Edit: just saw the knot you did on your tie out points, I like it, I will be using that, thanks.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Sm1thsonFPV!

[@vanniek71]

This is perfect, been looking for a Backcountry shelter for elk season so I can cover my gear and stay warm. Thanks for the video

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Vanniek 71. That sounds like a great time!!

[@jamesdouglaswhite]

Thank you, you just seal the deal on my decision to buy a Warbonnet xlc, and you gave me confidence in buying a larger style tarp as I agree with you about the extra warmth and protection from the elements. Thank you this video is invaluable to me, keep up the great work and keep having fun out there! P.S. I have the same set of carabeeners (sic), what a great idea, save some money and use what I already have.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Douglas! That setup was born of living 130 days a year in the outdoors. The weather didn't matter and we were there in 2 week increments all year round. There is a difference in existing and living. I can do both, but why choose to just exist when you dont have to? Enjoy it out there!!

[@trishschofield7808]

Good job 👏 I’ve been looking at tarps and hammocks. I hand no idea 🤷‍♀️ they have so much room. Thanks 😊

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Trish! Indeed...

[@lethiapage4767]

I can share? I used to have separate net made for travel hammocks but not attached. It hung from the ridge and drooped around underneath the hammock and had holes you could string the ropes through and then cinch it down. And when it was set up it looked like a giant pair of underwear and I called it the hammock panties! And in east Texas you always need a bug net!! The one thing I see about this is how I really prefer a breeze and a view. Visibility is a big part of safety in my opinion. But this def has its purpose for privacy/stealth and storms and getting that surrounding temp up so you don't freeze from convection. Its good to know how to do this with an ordinary tarp. It looks like a specialty product! Does your hammock have a bottom entry that shuts tight when you lay on it? This and the shape are the Hennessey's distinctions.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes I'm familiar with those mosquito Nets. The beauty for this hammock is like the Hennessy, the mosquito net is built in. This does not have the bottom entry with velcro. this is a zippered entry were you zip off the mosquito net and lay down. zip it back up if you want it or leave it unziped if you don't need it because it's cooler weather. No need for that extra bug net.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good info. I have not had trouble with mine. My hennessey has definitely passed the durability test with 500 nights+. I have a couple hundred in the warbonnet with no issues. Sorry yours was not up to speed.

[@nathansharp3193]

I like how you use the Nite-Ize 'cheater,' as your ridgeline tensioner when weight doesn't matter. I usually go with a trucker's hitch there, but I might have to get the cam-cheater. My favorite 'cheat' to make a trucker's hitch on my ridgeline is using a 'third' prussic as the loop for my trucker's hitch on the ridgeline. I don't enjoy having to move my first (pulley) loop a few inches and not having an easy way to do it. The third prussic is my answer. The first two are the tarp-tensioning prussics. The third one allows the anchor loop to easily move to exactly where I want it so it doesn't interfere with my tensioning prussic or my hammock suspension. The Nite-Ize actually seems to be a hell of a clever way of achieving this for a little extra weight. It can be argued that a tight ridgeline isn't necessary when using two tarp-tensioning prussiks on the ridge, but we all know tighter tarps are happier tarps, especially in wind and snow. Also have you ever added a puller loop inside your prussics? If you're set up for several days at a time and re-tensioning is required, another loop of cord looped within the prussic gives a great handle to pull on for loosening/tightening and adjusting the tarp as required. It also makes removal a lot easier if your tarp has been set up and progressively tensioned over the course of several days or weeks.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

All great ideas! I will def try the tensioner loops! I think you will love the cam jam. Just be sure to get the aluminum one. Thanks Nathan!

[@nathansharp3193]

River Kings : Thanks for the heads up on aluminum and steel?I presume. Hey, while I got you here: have you heard of Chill Gorilla Tarps? Is he USMC? If he is, that's wonderful and I'm buying one of his tarps. I'm worried though that he may not be...I hope I'm wrong. You seem like a guy that might know that sort of thing. I know you're not a regular river-rat.

[@C0TT0NM0UF]

The knot is called a truckers hitch, if anyone wants to know

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks...I forgot to give out that information!

[@robertl.fallin7062]

@@RiverKingsKayak and if you pass the working end thu the loop twice you wont hafe to worry about tying the working end off while holding tension on the line.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@robertl.fallin7062 that's a good tip! I used to keep things a quick release as possible...but I will try this.

[@Stealthiker]

Excellent video! Just the kind of rain set up I was looking for. I found the Kelty 16 Noah's Tarp(Arc) on close out. Did a shake down set up In the garage, the corners practically fold in on there own. It's huge inside!! I had to sacrifice all the biners and cam locks, too much backpack weight. Still works great! I'm South Fla so there's no worries about the cold. Thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

JohnnieQuest perfect!

[@Witulo89]

Someone have a link to this tarp? I cant aeem to find it, for aome reason the tarp keeps showing up as a small 1, kinda resembles a hang glider haha.

[@MAGA33321]

If you tie one of the knots he used to hang things on either end of the ridge line in stops water from running in.

[@shellcracker18]

MAGA good ole drip line

[@justinlamb3822]

@MAGA I like the channel name and great tip too!

[@TomKirkman1]

I like the Noah's tarp for the basic diamond set up. due to the top tabs being on the diagonal instead of straight across the square. Drop one end lower if wind and rain are an issue. Very quick to set up. The Noah's tarp also has pockets in the corners to store your lines.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

For sure Tom!

[@Stewbphoto]

that's a really cool mod. I would totally take something like this camping.... Gives me a good Idea for my Noah16.... But I would never take on a backpacking trip.. But good on you

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks LBS! I use mine more for winter kayak camping where weight isnt really an issue

[@ronnieo9571]

OK - So I have been looking everywhere for someone setting up a REAL rain shelter tarp/hammock setup. I found it here. This looks like the real deal...thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Ronnie O. That is exactly why I went this route!

[@nostromo4269]

A midshipman’s hitch is a good knot to know. I use it on my guy lines and it holds up my hammock with me in it

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Kevin!

[@bryanr.3241]

I bought the Kelty 16x16 because they were out of the 12x12 and wondered how to set up such a huge tarp. This is awesome and I gotta try it. But I'm going to try two hammocks inside without the tarp going to the ground since it will be summer and it will be warm outside now. Thanks for the video 🖒🖒

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Awesome. I have slept two inside several times. Usually I stack them like bunk beds. Thanks for watching!

[@robislookin]

finally...someone that likes the Kelty Noah 16. i have been asking in all of the forums what people think of it and to a person that all say good tarp but to heavy. i want something that's gonna last and that i can use in all conditions. so now i am vindicated in my thinking that this is the way to go. thanks BTW can you show any other ways you set it up?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Robert Young, yes, I will make a follow up vid. I have three other configs. The two heavy crowd are of the weightless cult of backpacking. If you have enough money to keep replacing slightly brittle and fragile gear then you can have a 25lb full loadout backpack. That is very attractive to many. Those used to working with the military know rucks can weigh well over 100lbs with emphasis on ruggedness and 100% preparedness. somewhere in the middle further towards lightweight is where I am. The kelty's are awesome! Thanks for watching.

[@BigDaddy-jo8ig]

@@RiverKingsKayak tag me in the video's to so i can see them thinks

[@betelgeuse3037]

With very stiff hammock suspension I would try this setup even with bit smaller tarp.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

just curious, why a very stiff suspension?

[@ncfr69]

Absolutely fricking sweet. I love it.

[@bradfl123]

Thanks for making this video. You did a great job simplifying things and making them very easy to duplicate including the tarp set up as well as the truckers hitch not on the Ridgeline. Appreciate your efforts

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Brad! I spent a couple years trying to figure out how to accomplish this...I wish there was a video of this at the time. Lol. We love passing it along!

[@Oldsparkey]

That's a nice set up for cold weather camping in a hammock , might call it a hammock inside a tent. Here in the semi-tropics ( Florida ) I like to have mine open so there is viability all the way around and some good ventilation. Even with it set up that way I have stayed dry in some of our worst storms. My Blackbird and the Warbonnet Minifly is my choice. The Warbonnet Minifly ( Bushwack camo ) replaced my cuben fiber tarp. The cuben fiber tarp stood out like a sore thumb and was loud in a rain.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, all good points!

[@dontall71]

The opening scene with the snake is a good reason to hammock camp here in Louisiana.

[@outdoorsurvival7730]

I do it slightly different I use the cam jams as a continues ridge line and clip them round the tree and back onto the tabs on my tarp pulling the tarp centre and tight

[@RiverKingsKayak]

right on carl! That's one of the fun Parts about this Hobby! There's a million ways to do it, you just got to find the way you like and that suits your needs.

[@outdoorsurvival7730]

River Kings very true we all have our own ways I suppose Iv just got back from the shop with a budget tarp in the wrong colour and I’m still gonna use it instead of my DD super light just because I like the shape of it 🤣

[@Imightberiding]

"Bomber" set up & video dude. You've got some good ideas & tips. Obviously from experience, trial & error & hours of outdoor life. Cheers.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks IMBR! I spent about 150 nights a year camping in the field for about 10 years with my former job. Then all the other recreational camping Ive done....so fun to see so many ways of doing things. It is half the fun!

[@ronschreiber3635]

great video what size of tarp is that ?? thank for your time .

[@RiverKingsKayak]

16' x 16'

[@Ron-Reinhart]

Great video buddy! Do you happen to have a video or detail set up of your 40ft ridge line with those prusik knots? That's the best set up for a ridge line I've ever seen and it gives me a bunch of ideas for how to utilize more functionality for the ridge line. Too cool man!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Ron! I do actually. Here is the link! Hope it helps! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXnRpH17jL2Sars

[@Ron-Reinhart]

Oh you are the man! Thank you so much for the link and reaching back to me! I love this set up and I can't wait to try your ridge line and Noah's Tarp set up.

[@NinjaC00M]

Nice man. Gonna try this next time I get to the woods. Great video by the way really got the info across, keep it up.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Ninja!

[@lethiapage4767]

That is a genius setup! I never found a way to make it year round in a hammock (east Texas) but this would help a lot! Any chance you can show this with mosquito net added?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

too easy! I use a Warbonnet Blackbird hammock that has a built in mosquito net. It can zipper on or off depending on whether you need it or not. Cheers!

[@neohubris]

i like your setup, I have a tarp bigger than that but had trouble with the ridgeline, i will try out your method

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Let me know how it goes!!

[@evarona]

Great set-up man. I got the Kelty Noah 12 and I'm gonna be using it for backpacking in the rain. I can't wait to use your set-up. Thanks for the great video.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Awesome. I think you are going to love it!

[@angelaslatzer9263]

Wow, great video and set up. How tall is the ridge line in this set up or can you tell us your height for reference? We are a tall family and worry about height. We have the Dutchware Clark VX Ultra so need a wider tarp.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Angela! It's about 7' tall. I'm about 5'7".

[@花鳥風月.風雅人生]

Thanks for sharing this nice video .I learn from you, woo ...great job

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on kaho!!!

[@mcramblet]

This is an awesome shelter. I've watched this many times since I first came across it a year or two ago. The idea of a fully enclosed tarp shelter is appealing for not just hammock camping, but perhaps winter camping with a cot. One tarp question to get your opinion on; you use the older putty Kelty tarp which is no longer available. DD has a 5x5 (meter) which I've seen someone make a similar shelter with. I'm a fan of Aquaquest tarps and they make a 15x15 (14'7" x 14'7"). That tarp is 1'5" shorter both directions. That will obviously have an impact on size, but I'm wondering if it would be close enough to still be able to stand in at 6'1". I wished I already had one that I could try out. I'd hate to buy a new tarp that size only to find out it's a little too small for that set-up.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I think it could work unless you are really tall. I am 5'6" and I reach as high as my arms can naturally when I hang the Ridgeline. It would def be a tad shorter, but I think I could work...

[@benjaminbland1610]

Sorry if this has already been asked, but... It appears you have 5 points along each side for tie outs. So you can hang it square because you have a center tie out for the ridgeline. I think the (possibly) newer version only has 4 along each side removing the "middle" one. Can someone confirm this or am I possibly looking at the wrong one? Thanks in advance and great video River King! Anyone feel free to jump in if you have confirmed this

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Benjamin! All the 16's I have ever seen come with 3 per side (not counting the corners). This allows that center pull out point. When you get down to the 12's and 9's, there are definitely fewer.

[@benjaminbland1610]

@@RiverKingsKayak Ok thanks. Maybe just the stock image they have with it is just showing the smaller sizes. Thanks for the info!

[@fives645]

Pure genius! I learned a lot thank you !

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Fives! Hope it helps!

[@yooperts]

Could you do a video specifically on ur ridge line? It looked like a really awesome setup.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, good idea. I kind of jammed that part in there. I will see what I can put out here in the coming days. Thanks!

[@naranjoandres32]

Great video! Im in the market for a tarp and i think the kelty noah is the one im going to buy.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

right on brother!

[@gilbertdiaconu7145]

Wow...how super cool is that ...simply amazing,many thanks!!!

[@jedicazador]

Thanks you answered sooo many questions with this video, subbed

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks jedicazador!

[@escapewithjay]

Had to come back for a review on that "truckers hitch" knot... what are the straps you are using on the hammock? That adjustability looks amazing

[@RiverKingsKayak]

That is the standard webbing and buckles option on the Warbonnet Hammocks...super simple and very effective!

[@escapewithjay]

@@RiverKingsKayak Awesome, thanks man. Looking forward to the paddling season! cant wait to hit the water! Happy paddling

[@jimt4906]

Excellent video . Love the Kelty Noahs tarp 16 but they don't sell it anymore. Does anyone know where to get used? I can't sleep on the ground anymore and love winter camping so this large tarp would seal out the wind like a tent.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Just went to kelty's website. They are still for sale. There is also an amazon link in the video description.

[@cavtj1]

The tarp you link to is a diamond shaped tarp. All the tarps on the Kelty site are diamond shaped. Am I missing something here? Love the tarp though. Would like to know more about it. Thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thay are all actually square. On the link, they are simply shown hung in the diamond formation.

[@wildsau1965]

thats a great idea with the snaps

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Alice!

[@yakkelberry214]

I've been looking into a big tarp like this one, in fact it's sitting in my amazon cart. My wife likes to hammock side by side on same 2 trees, so I am needing something big enough to cover both and potentially close like you show in the video. I think it's just a matter of time before I buy it.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Ive done that before, in fact several times on the greenbrier trip. The 12 won't do it, but the 16 will. The 20 is just obnoxiously big...

[@dannyhaddox9870]

YakkelBerry, how do you put up two hammocks side by side on the same 2 trees. I've been trying to figure that out for awhile. Please email me at [e-mail] and explain this. Thanks!

[@erickmyhosh2719]

danny Haddox bunk bed style

[@dannycurtis2591]

@@erickmyhosh2719, Same question, great answer!!! Here I am, thinking about hammocks banging together, sharp elbows, hard knees in soft places, etc... It's tough enough in a king size bed! Keeping it simple. Makes perfect sense. Cheers!!!

[@tomjohnson8548]

they do make a two person hammock junglehammock.com/product-category/hammocks/2-person-double-hammocks/ you will pay for it though. looks like a good design

[@donolinger6904]

That's pretty sweet but the best hammock camping tarps I've seen all have stove jacks so they can be used as hot tents with lightweight woodstoves. I've got one but it's not for backpacking, it's way too heavy. I bought it for it's durability and ability to handle heavy snowloads. Sparks don't burn right through it either. You've got time to smack the tent to knock them off. I knocked one spark off and it didn't leave a mark of any kind.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes sir! I need to try one of those out! That is awesome about the spark retardant!

[@stevesmith8157]

Looks like a great shelter, fully enclosed. Im wanting to buy my first hammock soon, word on the street is the hennessy lets you lay at an angle allowing for a flatter sleep. You looked to be at an angle in that hammock, could you comment on this aspect for us beginners out here?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, the asymmetric hammocks are def the way to go! The warbonnet is basically a perfected Hennessy. There is not a lot of difference between them. The warbonnet has a slight edge in lack of weight and comfort with the durability in Hennessy's favor from what I can tell. I have the gathered end types such as Eno and fox, but for me they are for lunch breaks and hanging around camp. The Warbonnet or Hennessy types are for sleeping.

[@KarlMiller-DjKarl]

Top notch set up... I want to do some hammock camping....

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Karl!

[@joejones3462]

Any tricks to stop or deal with condensation?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good question. It has never been an issue compared to the warmth I get when I need it. If I do not seal the doors with the buttons, there is enough airflow to keep it to a minimal.

[@ericplloyd]

Putting the ridge line under the tarp is a mistake. When raining, it will allow rain to travel down it then drip-drip-drip on you while sleeping all night long. Putting some drip lines on the ends will help a little, but it's best to put the ridge line above the tarp. :-)

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I hear ya Eric! I have had probably 2000 nights under a Tarp over the years. Never had the issue with wicking and dripping. The prusiks help shed that water, dyneema doesn't wick and I also keep the span between trees as close to the width of the tarp as possible so there is little to no exposed line to gather water. I feel the tarp is much stiffer and secure with the structure of the Ridgeline supporting it.. . But alas...there are so many ways to do it and they all have their pros and cons!

[@ericplloyd]

@@RiverKingsKayak Yeah, I can see how the prusiks would help. Nice.

[@JasonIrwinTumblehome]

Nice. Very informative. I have been looking into a windproof set up.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on Jason! Just be aware that Kelty has changed their production on this tarp and the new ones require some waterproofing. For the life of me, I have no idea why they did that. I used a 16 and a 12 both for over a decade with zero leaks or issues. The new ones did not have the same water repellency...But after a quick spray, they are working fine.

[@JasonIrwinTumblehome]

@@RiverKingsKayak Thanks! Just catching up on some of your vids now!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

@@JasonIrwinTumblehome right on brother! Would love to head up your way and catch a river with you sometime!

[@rafaelroman3867]

Great video!! You say it will add 10-15 degrees of warmth. But will condensation accumulate? 🙏🏻

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Rafael! On occassion there will be condensation, but it is limited to the tarp walls. This is a good trade off for me to stay warm.

[@darrenspeed6854]

What a great setup. Thank you.

[@Joeoshea1957]

Great detailed setup information. Thank you for sharing.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks and your welcome! Hope it helps!

[@adam2084]

What type of snakeskin would you recommend for the 16?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Good question! I don't use one on my tarps myself...

[@Jesusandbible]

What do you think of the Tenth Wonder Bunglow Tarp?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I have never seen that one in person.

[@christianholley7236]

What is your preferred setup for the warmer months?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

I have used many tarps. It just depends on your activity and budget. The Kelty 12 gives a lot of coverage for less investment but is heavy and big. The smaller lighter tarps are really nice but cost more and are preferable when backpacking. I have used the kelty 12 a lot on kayak camping trips. The 16 does not give good air flow.

[@Sturmsaenger]

What is the knot/method called that you attached to the ridge line with smaller chord for the S-biner? I do not clearly understand the term in the vid, something like crusix? Any help would be appreciated. Thx!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

It is called a prusik knot.

[@lawrencelapating160]

Great shelter set up! Thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks LL!

[@bulljohnson6635]

Are your guy lines in the middle even? I got the 16 and they are off about 10 inches

[@RiverKingsKayak]

They are all off just a touch. They line up on the diagonal, but some reason a touch off on the flat. It never really made any difference in performance.

[@tmseh]

Awesome! Can't wait to put this stuff into practice. Subbed!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks tecums3h and welcome aboard!

[@wideopenthrottl]

Do you you think the 12' version could provide nearly as adequate coverage or is the 16' necessary?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

No, I actually bought the 12 to try this years ago as I couldn't imagine needing the 16. I tried to set it up and quickly realized that for the walled winter configuration, it had to be the 16.

[@PHARRAOH]

there are other set ups where you pull the doors out ward and cross them, that also hold in the warmth and keep out the rain that do work with a 12'.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, indeed. But a twelve cannot go all the way to the ground and still provide standing headroom.

[@m41lo20]

I’m going to have to try this

[@vincentflauto7650]

will this work with a flat laying hammock?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

the side lay hammocks I'm not sure...should work.

[@thewonderingelectrician]

awesome shelter. I plan on doing hammock camping for the first time this year. best vid ive seen on hanging the tarp.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks WE, I have used everything and this is the best cold weather config out there. In the summer it is just too hot. I haven't used a tent in years. The last time was in Alaska on a caribou hunt where there are just no trees. I'm sure you will love it. We need to hit the river here soon.

[@thewonderingelectrician]

River Kings sounds good. I cant wait to get back on the water.

[@ikonski142]

bout to try this 16 set up in the Raywah wilderness in CO..temps get into the low 30s at night(and i like being comfortable,encloser is key along w staying above ground!) i use a grand trunk skeeter beater(bugs get thick by the lake)pack comin in @ 17-18lbs total weight w 2-3 days of dry food & kitchen..try and handline some trout whenever possible ..good set up man..preciate!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

ike turna you're making me jealous!

[@ikonski142]

River Kings headin up next wk man! im makin myself jealous..im itchin

[@shofarox4037]

How big is that tarp... I mean, which measures does it have...?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Hey Martin, is is a 16' by 16' square.

[@jadeoasis]

thank you for your tips with an excellent setup for a very comfortable sleep:-) btw, i wish you a happy new year!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Prague Resident! Happy New Year to you as well! The Green is the new color from kelty...

[@abedowner]

How large of a foot print does this give you on the ground? I'd like to know if I can fit my dog and my gear in this set up. Thanks! l loved the video.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Abraham Downer about. 6' by 8' area.

[@abedowner]

Awesome. I think that's probably sufficient. Thanks for the great video River Kings. Best configuration I've seen so far. Can't wait to try it out.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Let me know how it does for you!

[@crispinleslie]

Does anyone know if this reduces or negates the need for an under quilt ?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

It adds warmth to the whole experience but you will still need an underquilt for sure

[@jamesford9750]

AWESOME VIDEO BRO... Just ordered mine because of your video... Thanks but FYI Walmart.com has silver heavy duty same size tarp you can use if you're trying to conserve $$$ everyone... Just sayin'... $33 IT'S HALF THE PRICE and for side anchor points 4 small smooth rocks or even marbles work, even those lil decorative glass rocks will do... Looks big enough to even make a Bushcraft cot inside it with a couple sheets... 👌👍 But Again AWESOME VIDEO BRO... THANK YOU AGAIN...

[@tenfourproductionsllc]

A big disadvantage to using those blue tarps is if there is any wind, you will hear the tarp crinkle. But I get your point, the price of some these tarps that get shilled on youtube are prohibitive.

[@thegearguysblog8271]

Awesome video! I can’t wait to try this setup!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks! I think you are going to like it!

[@renhosti]

Hey great video. Lots of quick information. I'm a backpacking hammocker, and usually looking for lightweight, but I like how you addressed that and point out that this would be good when weight doesn't matter as much. I definitely will look to pick one up when I go car camping to save my warbonnet superfly. One question: Is this the same as the 16' Kelty "Sun shelter"? Amazon lists the Sun shelter as the newer model to the one you show here. But this one is $99 and the newer "Sun shelter" is $69. Also the Sun shelter only comes in green.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Yes, I found that green Noahs Tarp (sun shelter in amazon description) for $69. It is the newer version and is normally $99. On the Kelty website the green Noah's Tarp is their current color offering. That green one is good to go.

[@bigmac3006]

Excellent video but I'll stick to my easy setup tent. Thumbs up!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks bigmac!

[@Witulo89]

Is this tarp "Kelty noahs tarp 16" still available? I tried to look it up, but i keep getting a kelty noahs tarp that looks nothing like this.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

The Kelty 16's are all the same basic square tarp. I just rig the square tarp to look work this way. Mine is also square.

[@josephmcnulty6922]

Cool hammock and tarp

[@donovanhowardmusic]

Real good video! Thanks

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks Donovan!!

[@angiekrajewski6419]

What about rain dripping on the hamac with the attachments?

[@RichADio]

Have you looked into the 2Go Systems' tarps? They have reflective material on one side and come in 10' x 10' or 12' x 10' sizes. the weight (23.2oz) isn't all that bad considering the benefits of the reflective side.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

While I have had some experience with other reflective products, I have not had any experience with the 2go systems gear. Have you tried it out? Sometimes those sorts of things can be more hype. Reflectivity is often good, but I have found the performance of such products to be marginal. Let me know if you really like it. I am always looking for improvements! Thanks for the heads up Richard!

[@RichADio]

I'm not sure if it's as reflective as the mylar emergency blankets you can buy at your local Wally World or camping store. I'm still waiting on my tarp to come in, but I think it is similar to, if not the same as, the reflective coating on the SOL survival bivvy.

[@1AbominAble1]

Thanks for sharing, I really like the set up.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right Ion! Thanks for watching!

[@TheMicheru]

This video is great! This whole setup is awesome. I was liking to use a hammock on my AT hike next year, so I was wondering, how much did this setup weigh? And can you sleep in the warbonnett asymmetrically like the Hennessey? I am sadly too close to that 200lb weight limit that the Hennessey has and was trying to find more asymmetrical options that are lightweight. Thanks for the video!

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks! This setup may not be the best for an AT thru hiker. It would be too hot in the summer and more bulk and weight than would be needed. I love the warbonnet. Hennessy does offer hammocks that would work for you too.

[@canajian]

Looks like a great setup.. 👋😎👍

[@RiverKingsKayak]

yes sir!!! hope that explained it...thanks!

[@brucehalleran1149]

Like kayak camping, motorcycle camping offers a little more freedom to be comfortable. Weight and volume matter, but nobody in IBMC has titanium cookware. If you've had a long cold wet day, this looks like a really nice space to dry out at night. And maybe keep your dry bags unmuddied overnight too.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Right on! It would definitely do that. Sounds like another fun hobby!

[@meerkatzThe23]

was no high humidity in this "tent"?was there any air circulation?

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Not usually, I normally leave the doors unsealed and there is enough ventilation. On super cold nights, there will be some but it is not bad.

[@kevinwhite4101]

How long is your hammock? Trying to see if a 12x12 will be suitable for a set up for me.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Hey Kevin, this is a 16 x 16' tarp.

[@kevinwhite4101]

@@RiverKingsKayak ok ty..

[@jeremiedoucet2806]

Very cool .im considering it for winter camping in canada

[@RiverKingsKayak]

The only drawback would be a heavy snow load...you would need to mind it a bit and steepen the angles up. Overall, I think you would like it!

[@shives007]

If i could find a hammock i feel comfy in, this tarp could seal the deal.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Matt Shively good luck in your search...have you tried the chameleon?

[@philvanduyn]

To keep water from running down the tarp and hammock ropes, wrap an 8” (or so) piece of plastic around the tree, tie your ropes on the plastic, then fold the plastic over the ropes creating a small valley for the water to flow away from the ropes. It will require two for the hammock and two for the tarp. I used this technique in the Vietnam jungles for 9 months. Otherwise the water will run down the tree, down the ropes and into your hammock.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

That sounds interesting! I never have issues with the water as I employ drip lines at the suspension connections...but I like the idea and have never heard of this! Thanks Phil!!

[@dannyhaddox9870]

Great video! There is a better guideline knot instead of the trucker's hitch. Use a Taut Line Hitch. It's adjustable and will hold forever.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

danny Haddox that is definitely a good one too. It is basically tying a prusik into itself. The only thing I dont like about the TLH for this application is that it is not quick release. Good comment!

[@views-pm8jn]

the hammock once raining water did flow down sleeping bag??? which mean you will be wet

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Level Up it is a concern but I have never been wet due to rain. There are ways to make sure water doesn't Wick in on your hammock suspension. It is just something to be aware of

[@PracticalOutdoorist]

Very good set up. I like the snaps.

[@RiverKingsKayak]

Thanks PO. I hate to tell my buddy Keith, but the thin velcro he uses makes a better seal by far. The snaps are lighter and less bulky. I love this set up...rock solid.