Best HDMI cables for retro consoles yet? Possibly. RAD2X review (PS1,SNES,Genesis,NEOGEO)

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MetalJesusRocks

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Review of RAD2X retro HDMI cables for PS1, SNES, Genesis & NEOGEO. Info: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/R...
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@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
BTW: If I'm looking tan in the thumbnails...it's because I've been out riding my bike almost every day trying to get in shape and lose some quarantine weight!
@Kordalicious
@Kordalicious 3 жыл бұрын
We need more videos, I’ve literally been binge watching your older videos until more new ones come out lol
@josephbayer5135
@josephbayer5135 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you dude! Stay healthy and keep rocking!
@HaggisDruid
@HaggisDruid 3 жыл бұрын
Time for some sunscreen reviews!
@flurm7573
@flurm7573 3 жыл бұрын
I've been meaning to do that for weeks, I must have put on about 1-2 stone (too scared to check)... played through 4 Zelda games though so it's not as though I've been wasting my time. :D
@nickyp9540
@nickyp9540 3 жыл бұрын
Looking like a Greek god bro
@bastien-
@bastien- 3 жыл бұрын
The difference with the Neo Geo was... *dramatic*. Like a whole console generation upgrade.
@rasz
@rasz 3 жыл бұрын
because its rigged comparison, NeoGeoCD does RGB out of the box, but somehow here we get NTSC Composite comparison, the worst possible signal (other than using TV modulator)
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 3 жыл бұрын
@@rasz I would believe the purpose of that is composite is the most common and most known method, to show the dramatic differences.
@rasz
@rasz 3 жыл бұрын
RGB/svideo cable for neogeo is $10
@unnamedchannel1237
@unnamedchannel1237 3 жыл бұрын
rasz guess you need an old school tv that has s video. Personally have not had one for years and good luck buying a new tv with one
@bastien-
@bastien- 3 жыл бұрын
@@dapperfan44 yeah, I literally never used or had access to anything except coax and composite video for any console until late model Xbox 360
@xWindreaderx
@xWindreaderx 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so great to see Bob get a shoutout! 😁
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Bob has a great channel!
@LukeOranje
@LukeOranje 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocks As a longtime viewer of both channels, I give a massive amount of respect for giving Bob a shoutout. It's like when two great world collide.
@RetroMoments
@RetroMoments 3 жыл бұрын
RAD2X is far beyond Pound and Hyperkin cables. Im just stoked there's something easy out there that works well now.
@bronzin1445
@bronzin1445 3 жыл бұрын
RetroMoments The thing with the pound and hyperkin cables is that people constantly mistake them for upscalers simply because it’s HDMI when that just isn’t the case. They’re straight through bypass converters and nothing more. RAD2X on the other hand is in a competently different league. Not only does it tap into the native RGB signal of the console but it line-doubles. THIS is what you want to get for anything older than the Xbox 360
@RetroMoments
@RetroMoments 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445 Well said my friend. I didn't think about the technical aspects but that's true. Of course there will be a huge difference with actual line doubling. Anyway, I really like these cables.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445 Id love if they were straight passthrough especially for consoles like the ps2 and psp. 90% of the time they arent and they are upscaling to 720p which introduces input lag. As well as the conversion causing obvious issues with color and brightness representation. With the rad2x cable it linedoubles to 480 without introducing input lag or fucking up the overall image. This is why they are the superior option amongst the two.
@albey1816
@albey1816 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445 - The Pound and Hyperkin cables are scalers. They scale to 720p ( Its fixed ) and do not bypass the signal. And yes you are right the RAD2X is much better, and correctly handles the signal, but it is also twice the price of the others.
@josko50
@josko50 3 жыл бұрын
@@albey1816 I was going to say that too. It's not that they don't scale--they do scale. It's that they use chips that were designed for scaling television or movie signals, where latency and "pixels" were never a consideration. Worse yet, the Pound and Hyperkin cables introduce variable latency. If it were a consistent latency, your brain would get comfortable with it, and you would time your button presses accordingly. With variable latency, your brain can never get used to it. You'll always be missing things that you *know* you should have landed. The RAD2X, Retrotink, OSSC, and OBS Control give a crisp, latency-free experience. Framemeister is also great, because even though it introduces 1 frame of lag, it's a consistent 1 frame.
@you-fq7ug
@you-fq7ug 3 жыл бұрын
Make 10 more! These are my favorite videos testing tech
@Neffets
@Neffets 3 жыл бұрын
I would've loved a comparison between the PS1 cable and playing a PS1 disc on a PS3. If you see this comment, can you maybe describe how they compare?
@zachgray9104
@zachgray9104 2 жыл бұрын
The playstation 3 upscaling on ps1 games is kinda terrible compared to other options.
@adamford4167
@adamford4167 Жыл бұрын
@@zachgray9104 I wonder how this would look using the AV out on the PS3 since its the same all the way back to the PS1.
@christurner4878
@christurner4878 5 күн бұрын
I'm interested in this. I was thinking of getting a PS3 but it's not the same. So now I'm thinking PS1 with RAD2x or Mini PS and modding it. I'm leaning towards modding the mini as I don't want to deal with memory card issues when saving
@GuestZer0
@GuestZer0 3 жыл бұрын
"Do we really need another set of retro video game cables?" No, but I always appreciate more options.
@chriswaters834
@chriswaters834 3 жыл бұрын
We actually did need these. These are the only zero-lag, plug-and-play HDMI cables for retro consoles on the market.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
We 100% needed these considering all the cheap garbage on the market
@SilentDrifterGT
@SilentDrifterGT 3 жыл бұрын
Competition is a good thing.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
@Witch Bitch? Unless you're buying from Eon
@hh4hooch
@hh4hooch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shouting out bob, hes a good dude really trying to make good things happen in the retro scene :)
@cloudff72000
@cloudff72000 3 жыл бұрын
Preordered the Rad2X yesterday - should output a lot better than the standard composite cables for my Nomad. Thanks for this; saved me quite a bit of cash.
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 3 жыл бұрын
MJ: I know what you're thinking... Me: Actually I was thinking, why didn't they just make one cable for all systems...
@rcp225
@rcp225 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough money in it!
@excadrillo99
@excadrillo99 3 жыл бұрын
They did, it's called the retroTink 2x
@blizzzilla
@blizzzilla 3 жыл бұрын
If you're a tinkerer you can buy one Rad2X cable and mod it with a SCART input. It's a pretty good and not too expensive solution. I really wish they would sell it like that.
@Level1Sword
@Level1Sword 3 жыл бұрын
What would you say is the best upscaling solution for component cables? I have a PS2 and GameCube I play with component cables, but I have a cheap HDMI upscaler that doesn't have an option for 4:3 so it looks awful when I record through the Elgato.
@excadrillo99
@excadrillo99 3 жыл бұрын
@@Level1Sword Most of the time it's easier to just plug component cables in directly, but if you need an HDMI solution you probably need an OSSC
@martlowe
@martlowe 3 жыл бұрын
Bob’s great. Really good that you put some technical info in your video.
@jengelenm
@jengelenm 3 жыл бұрын
Great shout out to RetroBob! An underrated channel. Discovered it over a year ago.
@turbo8890
@turbo8890 3 жыл бұрын
So much for me hoarding my local craigslist CRT's! I think I'll dabble in the SNES RAD2X, that does look amazing. for the Genesis and NES, I went the Analogue SG / AVS RetroUSB route, haven't looked back since. Thanks for this great review, have a good week.
@Jayrod64
@Jayrod64 3 жыл бұрын
RetroRGB covered these and they are amazing.
@AkAkAkNeil
@AkAkAkNeil 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video, so much better than I thought it was gonna be. Get in more Bobs for tech guest spots, great!
@TheArtOfB
@TheArtOfB 3 жыл бұрын
I love RetroRGB! Great to see the collab.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bruceg22000
@bruceg22000 3 жыл бұрын
We need the OSCC Pro to be released as the high end solution for all our retro consoles, as the framemeister is severely outdated.
@donhonk
@donhonk 3 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is what I'm waiting for, that or HDMI mods for every single one of my consoles lol. Got the N64 UltraHDMI, and a CARBY for the gamecube.
@bronzin1445
@bronzin1445 3 жыл бұрын
The irony here is that the framemesiter is still considered god-tier in terms of upscalers, despite how dated it is. There's a reason why demand for it is so high
@bloodmarth
@bloodmarth 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445it was considered god tier for many years because it was the only option. Now it's only good for movies and such.
@darkrulier
@darkrulier 3 жыл бұрын
The current OSSC is more than enough for most users. The new one is in the works but I don't knownwhat improvements is it going to have over the current one, I beleive it uses and updated Altera fpga but that's it.
@bronzin1445
@bronzin1445 3 жыл бұрын
bloodmarth No, even with with OSCC and Retrotink, the framemeister still reigns supreme. It’s a premium product that goes for a premium price. Scalers like the Retrotink and OSSC are only mid-tier compared to the framemeister
@riverratsrock
@riverratsrock 3 жыл бұрын
I somehow always end up finding out about stuff like this like a year after it was released and is far out of stock.... knowledge is power Metal Jesus.... thank you!
@arias1234
@arias1234 11 ай бұрын
I had recently pre-order one for the PS1 version, so it does get restocked, but rarely.
@allergic2life
@allergic2life 3 жыл бұрын
SO weird I was looking around on YT for what one to buy for my snes and looked back on the older video you did last year and all the sudden you post this the next day! SPOOKY! haha
@Kurlija
@Kurlija 3 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing Colony Wars: Vengeance in there, one of my fave PS1 games!
@the14thdragon
@the14thdragon 3 жыл бұрын
For now, I'm still playing all the older consoles on my CRT tv.
@backloggedgamer9338
@backloggedgamer9338 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Nothing beats CRT. It’s what these consoles were made for.
@nicholaskennedy1748
@nicholaskennedy1748 3 жыл бұрын
Also, you can still use a light gun with CRT👍I used all my consoles with HDTVs for years, but bought a CRT and the picture quality was like night and day in comparison.
@TheAdventurersLounge
@TheAdventurersLounge 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that time Kinsey clogged the toilet
@SuperNicktendo
@SuperNicktendo 3 жыл бұрын
It's nuts that we have these solutions now. So much variety. I have a set of HD retrovision cables for my Sega stuff and it doesn't work with my Elgato :/ so I might get a retrotink down the road
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
I end up using 4 different capture devices depending on what I'm working with: three Elgato and a Hauppauge. It's crazy what's required to get footage when you consider all the different generations of systems including old computers.
@Matt-Rat
@Matt-Rat 3 жыл бұрын
Your HD Retrovision cables do not work with your Elgato? I have the Elgato HD. Is that what you have?
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-Rat The Elgato HD doesn't support 240p over component or HDMI. The HD Retrovision cables do not upscale and simply convert the RGB signal to component.
@Matt-Rat
@Matt-Rat 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteJarrah So I need a different solution? Fair enough. Glad you mentioned that. Thought about getting an Analogue Super NT and Mega SG. And a RetroUSB AVS because I want to start a project.
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matt-Rat I haven't used any of those systems you mentioned, but since they all use a conventional 720p HDMI output, they all should work the Elgato HD. I've used a Cyber Gadget Retro Freak with mine and that works fine. You can use the HD Retrovision cables for recording, so long as you have something to upscale the signal into something that your Elgato can use. If you have an OSSC, you can feed the HD Retrovision cables into its component inputs and linedouble them to 240p. Unfortunately, the Elgato doesn't like anything greater than 2x coming off the OSSC and doesn't even recognize any PS1 resolutions or even the Dreamcast VGA mode coming off the OSSC, so I needed to route the OSSC through the HDMI input on my old SCART to HDMI to get any use out of it. Adam Koralik did a video on the device in question. A Framemeister is more fiddly and more extensive, but might be a simpler option than daisy-chaining all these devices together.
@EmperorOfTigers
@EmperorOfTigers 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Great to see the part from Bob as well. These cables really are the ones to buy. My Nitnendo RAD2X is fantastic.
@Vanessaira-Retro
@Vanessaira-Retro 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING VIDEO! Wonderful job showing these awesome video solutions off. These and the RetroTink are among the best "affordable" yet great quality solutions available. Thank you MJR!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@timmymeredith7499
@timmymeredith7499 3 жыл бұрын
Huge difference for the Neo Geo CD amazing
@StephanieHua
@StephanieHua 3 жыл бұрын
RAD2X are the best retro cables to get for playing your retro consoles on a modern LCD/LED. The scaling options are all programmed inside PCB board so this works great for the casuals and "hardcore" retro gamers. For anyone who needs to play their retro consoles on a modern TV, the RAD2X is amazing! But for the "enthusiast" who are able to mod, re-cap, and possibly RGB bypass their consoles. They most likely play on a PVM/BVM (ie CRT) using RGB SCART cables or an HD Retrovision cable. Along with a scaler such as the framemeister or OSSC to play on a modern TV, the RAD2X probably isn't even on the retro enthusiast gamers' radar. But we definitely respect it!
@15jeovani
@15jeovani 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video MJR Enjoy watching your content
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@greengrapejelly
@greengrapejelly 3 жыл бұрын
Just started using a Retrotink 2x Pro yesterday. I guess they really meant it when they said no lag, very neat stuff.
@nightwinn
@nightwinn 3 жыл бұрын
The lag is so tiny, it's micro.....seconds...
@Astrojammer
@Astrojammer 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the Rad2x for snes, n64, gamecube and it is wonderful. Waiting for the Ps1 version to become available again.
@Astrojammer
@Astrojammer 3 жыл бұрын
@D. Oh no! And I emailed them a couple of weeks ago to check availability so I must have just missed out. Tempted to get the retrotink component cable instead. Definitely making sure I'm on that newsletter now.
@JavierSianes
@JavierSianes 3 жыл бұрын
I have that RAD2X cable and if you think image quality is good, honestly you have no idea about what good quality means. Using a good RGB cable and OSSC you can get much better image quality.
@JavierSianes
@JavierSianes 3 жыл бұрын
@@cromy4589 OSSC is available in many stores worldwide, including Amazon. I got mine from a local seller in Spain (where I live) for about $180, including PSU and remote controller. Try out Amazon or AliExpress (probably cheaper here).
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
The ps1/ps2 cables are back up as of now but stock is limited. If yall want one now better act fast before they sell out again. Expect shortages and delays due to covid. www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/RAD2X-CABLES/SONY-PLAYSTATION-HD-RAD2X-CABLE
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 3 жыл бұрын
I plan on getting a set of these for my own review. But without even using it, I can see two problems with the cable. One, there is no passthrough option. While linedoubling looks great on 240p and 288p games, it looks horrible on 480i and 576i games. I'd much rather that content be deinterlaced the normal way. And second, there's no workaround for light gun games or otherwise splitting the video to a CRT. If you're playing with HDMI, that forces you to use a HDTV. Since the RAD2X defaults to composite video if it can't detect RGB, why not include a secondary TRRS port that would allow you to send HDMI to a HDTV or capture card and composite video to a CRT for lightgun games.
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 3 жыл бұрын
@D. Well I AM a video expert, I'm a professionally trained filmmaker and restore VHS tapes for a living. Bob-deinterlacing is still linedoubling. In this case, you are doubling the lines that make up the fields. I've seen it on the OSSC and the RetroTINK 2X - it looks horrible. Think about what it is you are looking at. With 240p you have all 240 lines that make up the frame, so the linedoubler has all the lines to work with right from the word go. With 480i content, the device alternates between drawing the odd-numbered lines that make up the frame first and the even-numbered lines second. Meaning at any given time, the linedoubler only has HALF the image to work with. Linedoubling that means the resulting 480p signal is missing half the vertical resolution, resulting in an unnaturally blocky and vertically stretched image. Not to mention the vertically, making the picture look extremely unstable. The Framemeister and even cheap SCART or Component to HDMI upscalers use a process called waiving. In which they buffer each frame, take the odd and even numbered lines that make up said frame, and put them back together again. THAT'S how 480i and 576i content should always be processed.
@thomasharte500
@thomasharte500 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to wade into this late, but a real CRT does the equivalent of bob, and full 50/60Hz titles often do the on-spec thing of having each field be a capture of the moment at which it is serialised rather than being half of a static frame, especially in the PS1 era when that means not having to keep a 480p framebuffer. Weave is an option only if you make some phoney assumptions outside of the PAL and NTSC specifications, and is what often leads to combing artefacts in cheaply-converted material. It is most definitely not “how content should always be processed”.
@LukeOranje
@LukeOranje 3 жыл бұрын
The best of two retro video gaming worlds - all hail MetalJesus and Bob.
@nemayasleads
@nemayasleads 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to see Viewpoint getting some love. Absolute favorite from my childhood!
@Mayoriot
@Mayoriot 3 жыл бұрын
I already have a GCHD but I'll get this for snes and n64. Really cool
@krunschold
@krunschold 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, it was on sale last month and I waited for it bring in sale again over 6 month. And when it is in sale it is solide out realy quick. Not as quick as for example Wacken but it took no day
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
@@krunschold The nintendo cable is currently in stock btw. Better jump on that.
@miklosbalog1188
@miklosbalog1188 3 жыл бұрын
i have one, and for n64..... is shit.....
@randallgoeswhere
@randallgoeswhere 3 жыл бұрын
In the future theres going to be so much tech hardware and software emulation to make retro games look so much better than they originally did. Its going to be great.
@sakidickerson
@sakidickerson 10 ай бұрын
Hello I am from the future and a cheap mini pc using emulators can upscale these retro games 4x+ the original resolution and look amazing
@targetrender9529
@targetrender9529 7 ай бұрын
The future is NOW my friend.
@lifebeginsat8bit
@lifebeginsat8bit 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful, MJ. Thanks for the video and the information!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jcynavarro
@jcynavarro 3 жыл бұрын
If it's in your budget, I'd recommend a Vizio M658-G1 TV. It's 4K and all that good stuff, but also has one composite (red, white and yellow) input and component input as well. I hooked up my old consoles to a composite switch for those that don't have component and the same for the others. The TV does a pretty good job of displaying the content and it also doesn't stretch the image, although you can mess with it in the settings. Obviously this is a very expensive option as it's an entire TV, but it's a good TV with options for us retro gamers. Just thought I'd throw that out there in case it could help anyone.
@HDLowrider03
@HDLowrider03 3 жыл бұрын
I still keep it real and plug them old consoles into my 36" Sony Wega Trinitron. haha
@rig85
@rig85 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Also a 36” Trinitron!
@Azuris190
@Azuris190 3 жыл бұрын
Best Method
@jnackmclain
@jnackmclain 3 жыл бұрын
I use rad2x on n64. it's wonderful. Love it much more over retrotink 2x pro
@flow221
@flow221 3 жыл бұрын
Why? It's the same tech.
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
@@flow221 My guess is it simplfying his cable setup. There shouldnt be any difference otherwise.
@FernaMedel
@FernaMedel 3 жыл бұрын
And just last week I was looking for a good cable like this for my ngc, thank you.
@eweeparker
@eweeparker 3 жыл бұрын
shout out to my boy Bob at retrorgb! Very cool MJ!
@JeffYPbPr
@JeffYPbPr 3 жыл бұрын
Just chiming in. The N64 comparison really isn't fair. The non-modded composite N64 is only outputting composite at 480p. The ULTRA HDMI Modded N64 is outputting a clean rgb to digital 1080p signal. A better comparison would have been the stock N64 at 480p compared to a RGB modded N64 at 480p both using the Rad 2X. I'm pulling at straws here and i understand that you probably dont' have an rgb modded N64. Just saying this because ULTRA HDMI N64 mod's are virtually impossible to get anymore as the creator has stopped selling them and the only way to get one is via EBAY at scalper prices for $800 plus. A N64 RGB board can be bought from Voltar's mod shop for 30 bucks and is a super simple install even with most basic of soldering skills. Soap box over!!
@bronzin1445
@bronzin1445 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, the best you can do with N64 is S-Video. The irony here is that the SNES natively supports RGB and this isn't the first time Nintendo downgrade the video output. The GameCube Component signal is easily the best out of the 6th gen console yet the Wii somehow looks worse despite being a newer console
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 3 жыл бұрын
480i, you can't get progressive scan over standard composite cables direct to the monitor. minor nitpick.
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445 I can't say since I had no experience with the GC component cable, but using a 3rd party component cable on my PS2 on an old tv years ago, I was blown away at the difference. Colors popped and everything.
@bronzin1445
@bronzin1445 3 жыл бұрын
dapperfan44 The Wii component fare from a deal breaker but it does look noticeably worse compared to the GameCube assuming you have the proper setup. The Wii is perfectly fine if all you’re looking for is a way to play GameCube via component. Hell, it was method I used to play 480p GameCube games prior to the GCHD
@dapperfan44
@dapperfan44 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzin1445 problem with that is I have a Wii U, not a Wii. My now wife has a launch Wii though, but it's buried somewhere in the inlaws place.
@slimbroco572
@slimbroco572 3 жыл бұрын
Man did that make the sega look clean!!! For sure getting one of these. Great vid
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 3 жыл бұрын
1:55 OMG Colony Wars! I loved that game back in the day!!!
@matthewlong1978
@matthewlong1978 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the RAD2X for my SEGA Mega Drive for a while now, excellent bit of kit for the price
@turtle8443
@turtle8443 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Thank you. ✌
@poopikins
@poopikins 3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine today 🤘 Excited to try SNES
@jessragan6714
@jessragan6714 3 жыл бұрын
That Genesis footage is beautiful. I keep trying to look for solutions to clean up that system's lousy composite video, even attempting an S-Video mod that went absolutely nowhere, but this looks like it actually does the job. The only problem is that I have a Genesis Mini, which plays most of the games and outputs to HDMI natively.
@WhiteJarrah
@WhiteJarrah 3 жыл бұрын
Which Elgato did you use to record from the RAD2X? The HD or the HD60?
@shaunprice2853
@shaunprice2853 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff I have been loving my RAD2X for PSX. Retrotink products are awesome also Mike Chi is a great modder to follow on Twitter.
@jeffcarbello9115
@jeffcarbello9115 3 жыл бұрын
MetalJesusRocks thanks for the video. What first came to my mind when you mentioned it outputs a clean 480p signal was how this then might look dongle'ing off it Marseille Inc. mCable which has a microprocessor that really does wonders taking 480p and 720p up to even 1440 HDMI. It would be interesting to see how this might almost HD enable some old retro games. Maybe a followup video as sure Marseille Inc would be keen to lending you one. BTW, what was that Neogeo game at the end that you showed from composite to the RAD2X?
@boxerblake1
@boxerblake1 3 жыл бұрын
It's an even better video since I own all of those systems myself.
@velosiped135
@velosiped135 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The CDX is my favorite too. I own two and love em!
@NickJayj
@NickJayj 3 жыл бұрын
Hey metaljesus! I was just wondering which elgato game capture device you used to capture the silent hill footage??? Some people have troubles with "no signal" for a few seconds when resolution switching...
@andybaker5624
@andybaker5624 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus, I love watching your videos. If I had any suggestion it would be to put a little parentheses in the corner with the game titles each time you show a different game. I keep wondering what games you’re showing and wishing the title was right there, even if you say the title, I think I’m missing it sometimes and it would be helpful. Thanks! You rock!
@ToxoRetro
@ToxoRetro 3 жыл бұрын
It's cool that modernising retro systems for current TVs is still being developed. Real hardware is much preferable to emulation whenever possible. Apologies if I've missed it; are there any such devices to update/accomodate RF based systems such as the Atari (2600 or Amiga 500) from the original hardware? For me, composite RCAs/SCART would be great as it would work on non-analogue tuner TVs, but HDMI of course would be more future resistant.
@questionblock8949
@questionblock8949 3 жыл бұрын
i have no idea what bob said lol cant get enough of mjr videos! best youtuber in my book
@mattsgamingcorner3058
@mattsgamingcorner3058 Жыл бұрын
Will you ever get around to doing a full review and test of the recent RetroTINK-5X Pro soon?
@WheresYourToque
@WheresYourToque 2 жыл бұрын
Which should I get for my old Genesis 2 (bought for around $20 CAD at Value Village over 20 years ago and played on only a couple of occasions)? Rad 2X from Retro Gaming Cables, the HD Retrovision Component video cable, or the NEW Retro Gaming Cables component video cable (which costs a bit less than both the Rad2X and HD RV component video cable )? I have a Retrotink 2X Classic to upscale btw, all I need.
@pachomefisto
@pachomefisto 3 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the video , what is best for snes?: 1-rgb cable +crt tv with scart port 2 rgb cable + scart to component converter+ crt tv with component input. 3 hd tv + the cables you are talking about many thanks !!
@JimmyD07
@JimmyD07 3 жыл бұрын
I love seeing Moonwalker. I loved that game as a kid and i'm a huge MJ fan. Great video!
@Kevinsyel
@Kevinsyel 3 жыл бұрын
MetalJesus: Real big question, hope you can answer it! does the PS1 cable drop signal when the render mode changes? This is a huge question primarily spurred on by the fact you played Klonoa... When I play my PS2 Klonoa 2 on my PS3 60GB console, a change in render mode causes the screen to black out for a few seconds between level transitions. I'm curious if you've seen this on any games or on Klonoa itself? thanks! Edit: nvm you anwered it when showing Silent Hill... awesome!
@99munchkinsjedi32
@99munchkinsjedi32 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sega Saturn "McDonald's Monopoly contest version" that we got from an "Instant Winner ticket" from some hash browns. Printed on the box are the specifications for the system. It says it is HDTV compatible with an optional cable. Was that cable only available in Japan (as in OEM) in 1995? I know they make modern 3rd party versions.
@MoonSpiritChannel
@MoonSpiritChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I also like to point out with the PS1 RAD2X: it might NOT get the RGB output you're looking for initially. Found that out when I hooked it up to my 4K TV. What you need to do is power up the console first, then power up the RAD2X cable, and it should blink purple RGB signal.
@metalhead9656
@metalhead9656 Жыл бұрын
Does this rad2x improve the quality I picture on a 4k tv playing the ps1 ? Than just plugging in ps1 to tv directly.
@chriswaters834
@chriswaters834 3 жыл бұрын
If you buy the Genesis 2 Rad2x cable, you should be able to use it with a PS1 and Sega Saturn if you buy those adapters from HD Retrovision (although I have not tested it myself so would be good if anybody else could verify).
@bwillythekid8249
@bwillythekid8249 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a scart lead for my megadrive and it looks good to me. Would there be a significant improvement with one of these?
@Moracycle
@Moracycle 3 жыл бұрын
No way. Retrorgb Bob in a metal jesus rock video?
@benh7107
@benh7107 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, the nintendo cable supports RGB mods like etim's N64RGB. It would've been useful to see a comparison between a RGB mod with the RAD2X cable and the UltraHDMI mod. UltraHDMI was completely out of stock when I modified my N64 and the price didn't help matters, I suspect other people would like to see how the RAD2X fairs with cheaper mods on the N64. Love the channel, your videos inspired me to hold onto my old retro hardware and to start collecting all the gaming stuff I wanted as a kid. Thank you!
@ians_parks
@ians_parks 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure if MJR has an RGB modded N64, especially considering he has an utra hdmi modded one already. Maybe he didnt have one to showcase for the video? I also wouldve prefered an RGB comparison. Also yes it does support the tim worthington rgb board since thats what I have.
@jorgealfaro20
@jorgealfaro20 3 жыл бұрын
MJ.. thank you great alternatives. How about DC? Any recommendations?
@Walaoumpa
@Walaoumpa 3 жыл бұрын
Already have a retrotink (which I am very happy with) but if I was buying fresh, I would get these. Not having to fiddle cables on retrotink is a big plus (honestly at 4+ consoles you start having to look at s-video or av switchers, so the saving starts going down).
@asherael
@asherael 2 жыл бұрын
i have a set of component cables, and a set of composite cables coming from behind the TV that terminate in female connectors, so i can connect whatever console I want to play to them quickly and easily, it's not a tidy, elegant, super convenient solution, but it's a lot better than having to go back behind the tv and plug them in, and a lot cheaper than getting all kinds of switchers, junctions, and couplers.
@remingtonsteele3684
@remingtonsteele3684 3 жыл бұрын
@MetalJesusRocks I heard that at screen resolution at least the Saturn has a black screen for about 1-2 seconds. Are you really sure there is none (why should it be different for other consoles)?
@INeverWanted2010
@INeverWanted2010 3 жыл бұрын
1:48 Whoa, Colony Wars! I loved that game as a kid but I was too young to understand the controls fully 😂
@TheXheretic728
@TheXheretic728 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there MJR...what's that Eye of Beholder version at 11:43? For Sega CD ??? Thanks for reply.
@deionbeeldenstormer7498
@deionbeeldenstormer7498 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus, did you have a chance to see how the Nintendo cable performs with the Gamecube??? Curious how the picture compares to the RetroTink and Eon GCHD Mk II.
@jeffdavis6657
@jeffdavis6657 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know this too. Does it activate the Progressive Scan mode on games that use it?
@OneMore1UP
@OneMore1UP 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffdavis6657 No you can only get Progressive Scan from the Digital AV port on the Gamecube, the rad2x uses the Analog standard AV port and is only useful on PAL Gamecube's because it can output a RGB signal
@user-nw6dy4wt1h
@user-nw6dy4wt1h 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of image quality, does the RAD2X provide better results than the Retrotink products? It seems the Retrotink can be updated, not sure for the Rad2X can be. Thank you
@ft8900
@ft8900 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I found, that once I hook up my Gamecube with some HDMI device (for example Kaico GCVideo), it produces annoying vertical scanlines. Once I use the classic composite cable, the picture is actually much more better (blurry of course), but without those lines and with very smooth edges. The question is, does RAD2X reproduce the scanlines as well?
@ToxoRetro
@ToxoRetro 3 жыл бұрын
Lotus Turbo Challenge (2)! Love that game. Still plays well today. And an epic theme tune too. I assume this is the Genesis/Mega Drive version as the Amiga 500 wasn't featured.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was fun to go back and play it again for this video. It had been a while
@foreversleepy4379
@foreversleepy4379 3 жыл бұрын
Since this deinterlaces RGB signals and doesn't do any crazy upscaling, does this mean modern HD tvs will upscale the 480p signal to fit their native resolution or will they just display the 480p image with no scaling? I'm aware 1080p TVs tend to have good support for 480p signals but apparently 4K tvs don't and upscale signals.
@chrisbadal5852
@chrisbadal5852 3 жыл бұрын
For the neo Geo cd, I've heard that Modern Vintage Gamer created an emulator for that that runs on the (og) xbox and even can use the original cds.
@GuillermoTessi
@GuillermoTessi 3 жыл бұрын
One question: is there any sort of sound lag or distortion during the convertion from analog to HDMI?.
@jeffwalker9122
@jeffwalker9122 3 жыл бұрын
I recently acquired a 32" Trinitron in perfect condition. My Genesis, Dreamcast and MasterSystem look spot on. No need for this upscsler thing. Great vid!
@davidstring8301
@davidstring8301 3 жыл бұрын
Did you test it with the Sega tower of power? I have one of the $30 cables that looks fine and sounds fine with Genesis and CD, but doesn't give me any sound with 32X
@DungarooTV
@DungarooTV 3 жыл бұрын
Very good - smoothing certainly makes the graphics look a tad more modern-looking.
@cumnmrmptaaa4234
@cumnmrmptaaa4234 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a dumb question, but I have the component cables for my ps2, (the red red white green blue) plugged directly into the back of my 1080p tv, no converter. Will these converters make it look any better or will it look the same as it does already, thanks!
@mrbagitos
@mrbagitos 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if I could buy them. I’m waiting for Sega Saturn and PS2 cables to be available again. I have one for the Megadrive and I am very happy with the quality. I also made a video on this cable. Just need those other 2 cables to be available now. I’m waiting patiently 😬
@polleyguitar
@polleyguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to assume since MJR uploaded these videos he was able to capture them, say on an El Gato? I'm wanting to start streaming my SNES games and I have the Rad2x, just didn't know what kind of capture card works with it best! Thoughts?
@ernestgomez-frausto6187
@ernestgomez-frausto6187 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you would have shown the PS adapter working with the PS2, I have one of the generic ones, it is ok, but I feel many games like the PS1 could benefit from the "slick mode" .. I mean smoothaning. I hope you do show it with the ps2!
@scottythompson940
@scottythompson940 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video tech talk metal jesus rocks
@DenoNisshoku
@DenoNisshoku 3 жыл бұрын
this is so good, i've got yet an retrotink 2x and all of my retro consoles can go through it to hdmi unless one, my rgb psone. So with this cable I can play again my ps1 without buying anotherone to plug in into the retrotink
@Skysmeller1
@Skysmeller1 3 жыл бұрын
I have a cheap adapter for my N64 and on Games like Gauntlet Legends in certain levels its hard to see what’s going on. Better cables like these would probably give me a brighter crisper image in those levels.
@Driven2insanityfl
@Driven2insanityfl 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if an adapter like the HD retrovision adapter to play the Sega Saturn with the HD retrovision Genesis cables would work on that module yeah because we definitely don't have enough HDMI solutions for the Saturn considering some games do in fact have frame rates switching
@coryrabbit
@coryrabbit 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still running all of my stuff through S-video into a 38" Trinitron. It still looks fantastic, in my opinion, but i need to make that quantum leap at some point.
@dk780
@dk780 3 жыл бұрын
I look for a new tv, new with 4k have the red, white, yellow plugs in. It better to buy tv without them that and a converter from hdmi? I play nes to wiiu, and ps1 to 4.
@cu3rvossmokehouse566
@cu3rvossmokehouse566 3 жыл бұрын
So in my game room I’m getting a Sony x900h tv, I want to connect my NES, SNES, N64, and PS1 to it and have them readily available to play.. I’m guessing I’ll need a couple of these Rad2x and maybe a Retrotink and then I’ll have to run them to a input switch correct?
@PIXEL-yt3fu
@PIXEL-yt3fu 3 жыл бұрын
I was just wandering if you had any idea with this problem I'm having with my Ps1. Whatever I play on it, on any TV, with any game, it runs in slight slow motion, just wandering if you knew anything or could be that's effecting it.
@wistful3631
@wistful3631 3 жыл бұрын
Where have these been all my life
@hoodedfarmer
@hoodedfarmer 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I only have two retro consoles and hope one day to get a converter so that I can finish playing my PS2 or Nintendo 64 on my modern day TV.
@BlueSnakeShell
@BlueSnakeShell 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if these would work with the HD Retrovision cable adapters?
@gonzalotorres5282
@gonzalotorres5282 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Sega CDX... I like that design!
@mappyperez
@mappyperez Жыл бұрын
Would you say HDretrovision Component or the Rad2x is better for SNES and same for SEGA/MegaDrive?
@qruqid
@qruqid 3 жыл бұрын
TIP :when you have the side power ups on Viewpoint you can use them to open the gates by making contact with the spinners - it opens the gate super fast
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! Good to know :)
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