RAD2x: ZERO-lag HDMI cables for your Classic Consoles

[@ians_parks]

Is there a reason the composite n64 video capture look so bad in the video?

[@RetroRGB]

Probably a combination of scaling and the prototype cable. The final product will look exactly like a shielded composite cable through the RetroTINK2x...cause that's essentially what this is :) I'll have a follow-up video with much more detailed comparisons before pre-orders open, so you'll know exactly what to expect with the final production version.

[@ians_parks]

@@RetroRGB Thanks for the clarification. Im looking forward to these more indepth follow up videos👍

[@EngieDerek]

The N64 is the worst console to try and make look presentable on a LCD television from all the info I've seen. This looks great compared to the competitors, that being said it's still not totally there. I believe getting an HD mod is your only true way to make this system look as the creators intended.

[@ians_parks]

@@EngieDerek Id say svideo linedoubled through a retrotink2x is more than presentable but i understand the n64 doesnt look all that great by default.

[@odaddy47]

Ultra HDMI Mod is the way to go.

[@bobdotexe]

Kinda wish it also supported s-video for gamecube/non-rgb n64, but it's still very cool!

[@Bababaaaa]

That would put it over the top for me. It's a great cable by the looks of it, but s video would be great.

[@CAPCOM784]

Maybe they'll make a version 2 adding s-video functionality?

[@MisterMorcus]

Agreed, S-Video needs to be here.

[@sukidable]

Yeah I was kind of stunned they didn't. Sure it's not as good as RGB but it's a damn sight better than composite. I even noticed that back when I used a CRT. S video is way better for n64.

[@mscottjohnson3424]

Your mom looks good in S Video.

[@excadrillo99]

I'm glad that some of the MVPs went and made a more consumer friendly option for people looking for an easy solution! I always hate when retro game stores stock those pound cables, but the price is probably the main driver in that. Hopefully people understand that spending a little more can really make a difference.

[@triple_lei]

8:45 Quick 240p/480i switching? Kind of a big deal there....

[@Dustin_VG]

Yeah, right? That took this from “cool for certain people” to “I may have to pick one up”.

[@K3zster]

Interested to know what the deal is here - the OSSC switches pretty fast but only if your TV is able to quickly resync to the timing change. I can't see how this device can do anything that the OSSC doesn't, so I think it's still a YMMV situation.

[@harrisontashjian752]

My preferred solution is to use my BVM D9-H5U it only has 450 tvl so the interlacing is not super flickery and I can play in 480p on it

[@Numbuh_4WD]

hmm.... the cable outputs in 480p, and switches quickly between resolutions, but always outputs 480p in itself, right? maybe this cable could fix the long wait time for resolution change with framemeister or OSSC.... or did i miss something

[@Paul_Davies77]

Excitedly bought the Pound cable for my Mega Drive and then sent it straight back. Ended up buying the Analogue Mega SG and couldn't be happier

[@Floydzabarber]

This channel is great, we retro gamers are so lucky to have a channel like this on youtube. Thanks RetroRGB

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you!!

[@merlingt1]

I appreciate that these are "dongles" with flexible cables plugging into the console port as opposed to the console butt plugs that have been released lately.

[@RetroRGB]

Agreed.

[@fernandocasillasjr]

I legitimately audibly laughed.

[@michaeldraper6642]

There was no warning Bob, this is exactly what I've been waiting for.

[@gabrieleriva651]

This will be my Christmas gift to every gaming-lapsed friend I have!

[@jillhopkins4842]

What an awesome breakthrough by the end of the decade regarding Retro Gaming.

[@Greenalink]

From what I've read about the lack of Digital Pins on a Sega Saturn for Digital to Digital HDMI mods (UltraHDMI 64 and DCHDMI type) I think this is a must-have purchase for Sega Saturn owners trying to play games with 240p 480i switching.

[@TobyRieper48]

Dang. These cables rock. I already got my OSSC but this is great for folks without a scaler

[@bix9757]

Works a charm on gamecube, clear, less fuzzy edges, brighter / sharper colours.

[@genestarwind4610]

The Retro community needs to be ashamed about how low it sub count is on this channel.

[@Rumblefan]

Your comment just made me hit subscribe, especially since I’ve been getting into video quality lately. I used to just use composite av cables on every console without hdmi. Now I’ve invested in a retrotink and will be getting component and s video cables for my consoles. Also heavily debating a crt, but I don’t really have the room for one any bigger than like a small 13” one

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

Got the rad2x black transparent limited edition for my second Saturn. My main go to is retrotink 5x.

[@mrturbo757]

That's awesome you were lucky enough to snag two of these! 👀... I've been waiting years and finally was able to secure a pre-order for the next shipment coming this October for the Sega Saturn. I noted in some of the reviews and others have stated that the mini HDMI outlet has issues with whatever adapter you may utilize that can possibly cause interference in video and audio buzz... I'm hoping this has been eliminated in this newest batch, so would you care to comment on the performance and any issues or anything at all with your recent experiences please? Thank you for your time and have a great day! :)

[@WrestlingWithGaming]

These really look great. Might snag one just to make things a little more convenient when streaming older consoles. Great stuff as usual.

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, a few professional streamers with full rigs have already reached out to get these as their "travel cables". I love the RetroTINk2x, but if I'm only streaming, say, PS1 this weekend and I'm on the go, one cable vs three is WAY easier to carry with me.

[@SEGAGuys]

Great video, pre-orders are open again with shipping in December 2022. I just pre-ordered my Saturn RAD2X to replace my (second) Hyperkin.

[@EmteCoke]

NOW THAT'S A MIC DROP!!! Great video Bob glad there's now a cheap great solution..

[@ians_parks]

The only downside is no svideo support. Which means the ntsc n64 and gamecube will default to composite, and i reeaaaally dont wanna give Eon my money for a super64. Guess my retrotink2x will have to do for now.

[@TKDbruce]

I pre ordered mine today.. it will be here in Canada by mid November. They start shipping the cables out on OCT 31. good price tag on them $80 to the door. Best price I have found so far for what for I want to do. I'm pretty excited

[@danielblack6529]

Great video, Bob! Very beginner friendly! This Cable is definitely the long awaited cheap and good solution for people that are not too involved in this scene and don't want an expensive and complicated setup (yet). I do have one little gripe though: the Composite Video capture. It's unusually dark and very saturated. Is that because of the cable or just your particular N64 that you were using for capture?

[@RetroRGB]

I think it's a combination of processing and the prototype's firmware. We were concentrating all our efforts on the RGB auto-detection and weren't really paying attention to composite quality. The final product will look just like shielded composite through the TINK2x though...which is shockingly good on the N64.

[@danielblack6529]

@@RetroRGB Ok, thanks!

[@RetroRecollections]

These look like they will be a great solution and the price is pretty reasonable! 👍

[@FumeiComTV]

This looks like a great product! I just wish you would have shown how the AV Famicom looks using the cable.

[@RetroRGB]

It'd look exactly like the AV famicom via composite through a RetroTINK. Not great, but perfect if you're just waiting for an RGB mod.

[@Momo4060i]

So, is the picture quality for ps1 pretty much the same as if you use a ps3 to play ps1 games on a modern tv?

[@germanname1990]

Wow, boy am I glad I waited for something like this to finally come up.

[@GameplayandTalk]

Oh man, that Nintendo support is *huge*. Love the mentioning of the much more expensive Eon cable--there was little reason to invest in one of those to begin with, but this new Rad2X cable now makes it 100% redundant.

[@GameplayandTalk]

​@@SDMasterYoda In general, yes, S-Video is considerably better than composite. However, given the Nintendo 64's filtered/soft look across the majority of its library, the difference isn't as drastic as it may be with other consoles. Of course, if someone wants to drop the $150 on the Eon device, they are by all means free to spring for it. I don't think they will be getting an extra $100 in value over the Rad2X, but it's their money to throw away if they want.

[@RetroRGB]

@Gameplay and Talk - Yes, exactly.

[@Demokirby]

Oh shit at that mic drop. This is such a cool product.

[@ocanaldomehmeh1893]

I think that the ending actually convinced me to be honest... I hope i wont be wrong.

[@DaybreakerRein]

Thank you for taking a look at these cables! Informative, and I am glad there is finally a solution that isn't the Pound Cables. Hopefully sharing this around with my friends will get them playing there older systems on modern TVs!

[@pwnswoggle]

Nice touch using the rad racer attract screen for the rad2x review :)

[@RetroRGB]

LOL, I wasted so much time making that! Worth it :)

[@pwnswoggle]

@@RetroRGB lol I enjoyed it, definitely worth it!

[@videogameobsession]

Seems decent for 240p content. I do sort of wish it could output 720p. I think my Samsung HDTVs add extra latency when upscaling from SD to HD video.

[@RetroRGB]

I've tested about 40 TV's with the Time Sleuth and none took longer to scale 480p than 720p or 1080p (to 4K)...they were identical. Interlaced vs progressive was the only difference....scaling 480i took around five frames longer! So, you shouldn't have an issue with this cable adding lag.

[@matthenzel8930]

zaneiken It kind of matters. I definitely prefer the 720p output of my AVS over the 480p of the Wii. While I don't need razor sharp pixels, and even prefer the bit of softness that 720p displays, 480p is a bit softer than I prefer. 720p also works rather well when integer multipliers are factored in. Sure it's nitpicking, but that's sort of what we do when we are striving for minimal increases in visual performance.

[@buggs9950]

It's worth pointing out that in europe we almost always have component and RGB over scart inputs on modern TV's. This doesn't mean you don't have to consider lag but it does mean you don't necessarily have to tit about with hdmi converters.

[@Toyaddict81]

Bob is the man!! This RDA2x has a de-interlacing feature named after the man himself!! 09:27

[@Burb__]

Looks great for the price. But, in all of the examples where the RAD2X was tested, I see black pixels (looks like 2x1 pixels in size) popping up at a random location of the screen, only to disappear a frame or two later. This happened on the SNES, Genesis, SMS, Saturn and N64 and you can clearly see it in the bright areas of the game capture. Since it happened in all the tests, it can't be the console output. This would bother me a lot, despite the otherwise clear picture..

[@josko50]

Oh, huh. I see them too. Maybe it had something to do with the encoding or capture?

[@bradriley9777]

I was really surprised that Bob didn't mention this, or the flickering(?) in solid colors.

[@RetroRGB]

Uncompressed, un-altered captures will be posted in the next video. Not sure what those are, but my first thought it always YT compression.

[@Bababaaaa]

I would love this for original xbox with support for 480p. That would be amazing.

[@LeoA2600]

The Playstation cable doesn't support 480p, so not too useful for the Xbox if they build a Xbox version of this cable. Plus this seems to be purposed with properly upscaling 240p in mind, which is a non-existent resolution for commercial Xbox software. I would love to see a good Xbox HDMI cable though, but the specific capabilities of this cable wouldn't be a good match for the platform.

[@Bababaaaa]

The retrotink 2x is a great option, but it does not support 480p, which is a dealbreaker for me personally.

[@mohamedhussain532]

I heard of the XOSBP or whatever it's called. A KZbinr named Modern Vintage Gamer did a review of it.

[@Small818]

Amazing video!! Thank you :) Also, what did you use for your Nintendo power frame?! I cannot find that size anywhere

[@Small818]

Also, I just subbed 😊🤙🏼

[@RetroRGB]

Thank you! If you mean power supply, these are the best: www.retrorgb.com/triad.html

[@Small818]

@@RetroRGByou’re welcome buddy! No sorry I meant the Metroid poster in the background . That’s Nintendo power , isn’t it ?

[@RetroRGB]

Oh!!! LOLLLL, I'm sorry, I was half asleep when I responded! I bought a reprint off a random eBay store years ago. You should still be able to find them.

[@Small818]

@@RetroRGB hahaha, all good brother!! I have a bunch of Nintendo power posters , jist cannot find frames 🥴. Also I just preordered one of these :) I’m pumped !

[@bryanjones0185]

I guess I should look into buying a rad2x for my genesis 3. I bought a pound cable (returning it) and my Tv didn't seem to want to process the signal correctly. Same with the hd retrovision equivelant component cable made my retro gaming cables for my model 1 genesis (which I sold last month). Both consoles looked like a worn VHS tape film with flickering and jittering.

[@emmettturner9452]

Finally! This is truly exciting. Been expecting something like this. Video is still playing ads. I assume this is based on the same tech as RetroTink 2X?

[@emmettturner9452]

Glad to see that it is! I can see this having a huge effect on demand for UltraHDMI. Even though I sell UltraHDMI, I'm glad there's finally an alternative under $100 which I can recommend. Thanks for letting us know, Bob!

[@RetroRGB]

Well, UltraHDMI is better in every possible way, except two: You'll actually be able to buy this and you don't have to install it. That's a big deal for some, but if you can mod (and find an UltraHDMI), then absolutely do that instead. No disrespect meant to the RAD2x, it's just a fair opinion.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@RetroRGB A lot of people contact me to ask about UltraHDMI when they hear about the group buy and I'm the first to admit that it isn't worth it for everyone. I like to list alternatives along with typical prices, strengths, and weaknesses to avoid any kind of buyer's remorse. RetroTink 2X and these cables have one more big advantage than the ones you mention: UltraHDMI makes no attempt to de-interlace 480i. It just pipes out that 480i image as 480p or scales the interlaced frame as progressive to 720p/1080p, complete with interlacing artifacts. A digital display will also make no attempt to de-interlace with any of those resolutions, since it's technically a progressive frame of interlacing artifacts by that point. Granted, the N64 is primarily 240p and it's barely noticeable in 480i menus but the combing in a 480i game can be pretty distracting. Not with these!

[@swungsolid]

Emmett Turner sounds like they need to re-make/improve the ultra hdmi mod to do bob-deinterlacing. An hdmi mod that cost $400 for n64 that doesn’t de-interface is kinda stupid. But hey if there isn’t many games that output 480i on it I guess stick with the ultra hdmi mod?

[@swungsolid]

Emmett Turner what route would you go?

[@ZBR_ProXP]

love the Remute track in the background

[@RetroRGB]

Me too! SO NICE of him to let me use his amazing music!

[@importaku]

ps1 cable is a gamechanger as my framemeister is garbage at resolution switching, playing pop n music on it is impossible as by the time the game switches from the music selection screen to the start of the song the resolution switch on the meister is happening so slow that the song is already playing and i have missed loads of notes by the time the picture comes back.

[@AlessandroCussino]

I have a bunch of consoles connected via composit video cable to my proiector. This series of cables can change my "blurry" situation. THANKS !!!

[@emmettturner9452]

Woah, that N64 composite capture is WAY off. Why is it so... red?

[@pokepress]

Emmett Turner yeah, it looks dark and oversaturated.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@nickwallette6201 LOL! ...but seriously: I've installed hundreds of UltraHDMI kits into NTSC consoles and testing with composite is part of my workflow. There is something drastically wrong with what we are seeing here. It's abnormal even for NTSC composite on N64.

[@Sirotaca]

I was thinking the same thing. Shouldn't be an issue with the chipset either, since composite looks fine through the RetroTINK-2X. Wonder what's going on with that. Also curious about the black speckles that you can see occasionally in all the captures.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@Sirotaca I need to look again but if it's what I think it is: The N64 RCP (GPU) actually renders with little single-pixel holes all over everything but a final stage in the RCP render path tries to detect these holes and fill them in using surrounding pixel data. It doesn't get nearly all of them so you see black flecks appearing on a lot of stuff. Still looks far more stable than PSX with all the texture warping. ;)

[@Sirotaca]

@@emmettturner9452 It's definitely not just that, since it's visible in at least the SNES and Genesis captures as well.

[@jdeluna777]

WONDERFUL product! Great job Mike! Also, thanks again for your incredibly informative videos, Bob! 👍

[@NicB-Creations]

Getting this for my SNES!

[@rodmunch69]

People complain way too much about the Pound cables. I don't know about the SNES one, but I have one for the Dreamcast and Sega Genesis and I think they look really good. Yes, I have a scart cable solution going to a PVM as well, so I know it can look better, but it doesn't look that much better. The Pound cable for the Genesis in particular looks really good going to my 34" monitor, there's no noticeable lag that I can detect and the picture is quite sharp. If I wasn't sitting 2 ft from the screen, but instead pumping it out to my 55" TV that is 10ft away, I don't think I'd notice any issues. For the Dreamcast the situation is nearly the same just with a slightly softer image. These cables are $30, plug and play, and you're set. I haven't had the issues with a darker than expected picture on the Saturn or Genesis. With that said since I had that much luck I got the XBOX pound cable as well as I got a new TV and the a-holes took out the component video input. For the XBOX, and that one alone, it turned out there was a lot of analog noise in the signal - something I didn't have an issue with on the Dreamcast or Genesis pound cables. So maybe I got a bad one, or maybe those Pound cables work well with the Sega RGB output but not with other systems. I went ahead and returned the XBOX cable. But in any case, if you just want a simple and cheap plug in play solution then just pick up a Pound cable for $30 - at least for the Sega systems.

[@RetroRGB]

Please stop telling people to buy Pound cables. They're garbage and people who spread misinformation that they're "fine" are WHY these crappy cables get bought. I'm finishing a video that will go live soon that explains all of this. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Take it easy man, Pound cables came out when there wasn't any HD upscalers available so Pound cornered the market for making HDMI upscalers. For retro consoles at large. Rod Munch cannot be blamed if Pound are the commercial product which is mostly known out there and is available for purchase more readily can he? If you want RAD2x cables to takeover then it better be a product thats backed by rich investors who'll bank alot of money and support so RAD2x takes Pound technology's spot for retro console HD cables then! Let's just remember that the most technologically sound piece of technology doesn't always win the attention of consumers alright Betamax Vs VHS tape of the 1980's. i.e. Betamax was superior but lost that consumer war. And the later; HD-DVD Vs Blu-ray (many claimed that HD DVD was actually better?) of the early to mid 2000's. and we're using Blu-rays today aren't we. Pound may not technology be the best tech far as the HD cable thing goes? but it is what alot of gamers are currently using however, there's no crime in that is there. Sure i'll go for this Rad2x cable when there's one for the Sega Saturn and European Megadrive/Genesis. But its gotta be made far more available however alright!

[@rodmunch69]

@@RetroRGB That is absolutely not my experience with the cables - at least for the Genesis and Dreamcast. Now with the XBOX that was the case. I don't know if it's poor quality control or not - but the Genesis cable, in particular, everything looks and runs fantastic.

[@rodmunch69]

@@MGSBigBoss77 But my point is my experience with the Pound cables is not what he showed. I'm not a complete noob at this and I find them to be completely acceptable for their price - at least 2 of the 3 Pound cables I used this was the case. As said above the XBOX pound cable for me was not good - it had a ton of analog noise in it - but I tried it out since I was impressed with the Genesis cable in particular (and the Dreamcast cable, while a little soft, still looked way better than I had ever seen it since I never had a VGA box). Yes, there are better solutions, but for the money, these cables will make games look better than 99% of the American audience has ever seen, at least on the Genesis and Dreamcast. Almost no one here ever saw the RGB or VGA output on those systems - so if that's where you're coming from they look amazing.

[@SmokeMonster]

Rad!

[@bobdotexe]

2x

[@lustechsource5197]

Thanks for the great info! I had thought I had lost my NeoGeo collection, but found it while going through my parents storage during my Christmas visit. The only major issue was the RF cable. I know, I know! It was all I had and ignorant high school me still loved it! Anyway, I remembered this video and checked to see if there was a NeoGeo version of the cable. And there is! All that's left is to wait for the cables to ship. Thanks again!

[@nevermind824]

You'll be amazed at the picture difference you never saw before

[@simbin.]

Happy to see a solution for the masses.. that isn't crap! I'ma keep chasin the perfect signalz ':-]

[@Chocoburger]

While this product looks pretty good (though it really should have 480p support so you don't have to switch PS2 cables), I'm so glad I have 5 large CRTs (2 max out at S-video and 3 support component) so I never need to deal with modern TV issues. HD Retrovision component cables and I'm set! Plus the awesome bonus to play plenty of great light gun shooters!

[@Deutschland01]

I need this for my NEO GEO!

[@scottwilliamclarke6442]

I will be ordering this as the last of my Hyperkin adapters has broken - hopefully an Amiga and also a PSP (Maybe too Atari and 8 bit Commodore too) version will come in the future! Keep up the great work :)

[@scottwilliamclarke6442]

My two megadrive RAD2X on there way :) Tomcat Alley in all it's glory soon!

[@BarnyardCasanova]

Now this I could get behind.

[@Reformed_Borzoi]

Just like me and your mom

[@BarnyardCasanova]

@@Reformed_Borzoi Nice.

[@Reformed_Borzoi]

@@BarnyardCasanova D

[@UkraineJames2000]

Thanks for your work over the years, Bob. Great video.

[@KreepaEvoX]

In for the saturn version

[@ZombieTechie]

This channel and my life in gaming are amazing. This video makes the Nintendo RAD2x seem better than the Eon Super 64. That i disagree with. It should be noted that without an internal mod, the Eon Super 64 is a better plug and play solution (in picture quality than price) because it upscales an S-video signal, whereas the RAD2x only does composite unless the console has been modded.

[@RetroRGB]

I'll have a follow-up video that focuses on the Super64 vs RAD2x. I think you'll be surprised at the real-world differences. I should be done a week or so from now.

[@ZombieTechie]

@@RetroRGB thanks for the info. I initially ordered the rad2x and didnt realize at first it lacked s-video. I have a tim worthington board that i never had installed so I'll probably go that route instead. I've always wanted to see that board with an ossc vs an hdmi mod. There must not be many in the the wild.

[@JJernqvist]

The N64 composite looks very dark and overly saturated, way more than on a CRT.

[@Toyaddict81]

Johan Jernqvist I thought the same...

[@ians_parks]

Bob claims this not to be final. Its simply protoype footage and they were more concerned with the rgb footage than composite at the time. The final product should look identical to a properly shielded composite cable.

[@JJernqvist]

@@ians_parks Okay, good to know then! I might actually buy this. :)

[@ralphbrown1814]

Is there any reason to get these if I already have a retrotink 2x?

[@bluecollargamer7071]

Probably not.

[@ians_parks]

@@bluecollargamer7071 If you want to simplify your cable management for a single console. Like im constantly swapping out my snes and n64 with the retrotink2x. If i got one of these for my snes then i can just leave my n64 svideo cable in my retrotink2x and just forget about it.

[@ralphbrown1814]

@@ians_parks You could always get an svideo switch which would also solve your problem.

[@jamon1567]

The tink 2x doesn't take RGB right? This will pull RGB from a stock SNES and Genesis.

[@ians_parks]

@@jamon1567 the retrotink2x accepts comp, svideo, and component. Hd retrovision makes component cables for snes and genesis that essentially convert the raw rgb signal to YPbPr so that they can be used with the retrotink2x and any monitor that has component inputs.

[@kjkj968]

One error is the rad2x for the saturn requires usb power for model1 but not model 2.

[@danielbirchal]

There's no Genesis 1 version?

[@RetroRGB]

There will be, but for now you can just get one this to use with it: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/32X-PATCH-CABLE-WITH-FEMALE-9-PIN-DIN?tracking=5543fb4c077bb

[@AlaskaPersonalTrainingOnline]

@@RetroRGB Thanks for the quick reply to this. Has the team mentioned any ETA for the Genesis model 1 cable, by any chance?

[@gjk2012]

@@RetroRGB I have the Sega Genesis 1 with an 8 pin. Will the 8 pin be available?

[@abletothink]

I'm probably going to get the PS1 version because of that 240p to 480i switching. Wish I could get it now because I want to play Silent Hill this October but looks like I'm going to play it on my PS3 which sucks.

[@djopulence]

Looking forward to the “My Life in Gaming” review.

[@RetroRGB]

What's wrong with this one?

[@ians_parks]

@@RetroRGB lol

[@djopulence]

@@RetroRGB Nothing. I just would like their (additional) take on it.

[@RetroRGB]

And you don't think it's rude to comment on a video I just spent weeks on that you'd like to see another? KZbin comments baffle me.

[@djopulence]

@@RetroRGB no, and you're going to get more views for it. this is a great product--a game changer. you're going to get praised for it. ever heard of a second opinion? sheesh.

[@meriotroid]

super informative video! I'll definitely be preordering this thing

[@disruptfam]

Wait so i can use these with my pal gamecube and it uses rbg natively?

[@RetroRGB]

Yes

[@ricardorego4139]

So cool to see developments like this! For 480i content is this now a better option than an OSSC (assuming doubling to 960p isn’t supported by the display) and the RetroTink2X? Or same and just cheaper?

[@RetroRGB]

They would both "bob"deinterlace the same way, so it should be about the same.

[@Inv8erZlM]

Is there a reason S-Video had to be left out?

[@billyg.477]

i have a Genesis clone, is there any cable that works with it?

[@johnwinzer5576]

Awesome Video Bob!! WATCH OUT THOUGH! I best stupid EON is going to just copy these and just reshell them, then up the price to $150 like they do with every product they sell. Mike Chi REALLY has to pursue legal action against stupid EON.

[@ians_parks]

Mike Chi invents new retro gaming device. Eon: *its free real estate* 😏

[@lucasn0tch]

Can I add subtitles to this video, or can I repost this with subtitles? I had a conversation with someone in Japan the other day about how expensive the FrameMeister is, and I recommended them the OSSC. A person in that chat also said something about RetroGamingCables, so I want to spread the word.

[@RetroRGB]

Subtitles would be amazing. Please don't repost, but I just changed the video to allow for user-updated translations. If you have any issues, please email me, or hit me up on twitter. THANKS AGAIN!!!

[@Latin00032]

Bruh! Wash the stainless steel siding of the garbage can.

[@RetroRGB]

LOL, it legit didn't look like that in person. The friggin camera picks up EVERYTHING.

[@Okazu84]

Hopeless to even think about a 8-bit NES compatibility ? Indeed I see no mention of the Nes Multi-Out anywhere on retrocable UK or retroRGB itself. I guess it's because it doesn't output actual RGB signals and the RAD2x tech is based on handling those and not composite signals, correct ? Still great news for my SMS and Snes though, thanks for the video !

[@ians_parks]

If it doesnt detect an rgb signal it defaults to composite

[@Okazu84]

@@ians_parks Thanks for the valuable insight. I take it does work sending a 480p signal to a monitor when connected to a french NES Multi Out connector albeit in composite format (which is what any unmodified Nes outputs through the cable anyway) ?

[@HEADRUSH444]

Good thing influencers will keep shilling EON and Pound garbage. Hope those cables will make it big. Not switching from my (RGC) RGB-SCART cables + OSSC anytime soon but that multi-out cable is mighty tempting! Maybe as a present?

[@Inv8erZlM]

I would tell people considering the retrotink2x to save up for an OSSC since they care enough to spend some real money. At this price that changes! This looks like an actual middle ground.

[@TheFrenchy82]

One question : this RAD2x or an xrgb framheister ?? One of my friend has a Japanese Saturn. Right now he is playing with composite cables (yuk....). He is playing with a flat screen HD ... Buying a Scart cable is possible but not without modifying the Saturn, internal... Do you get the same picture quality with a RAD2x , compare to a SCART solution + xrgb mini ? Do you also suffer from the long "black screen", with the RAD2X, when the scaler tries to "follow" the changing of resolution of the console ?

[@EposVox]

WOAH

[@hylianbran7273]

did they name Bob Deinterlacing after you?

[@InvictvsNox]

"just designed to take your money" EON btfo lmao

[@1chiTheKiller]

I'd seen these cables before but didn't know anything about them. They look like a fantastic solution at a totally decent price. Also, has anyone noticed how his video and audio are not perfectly synced up? Every time he's on screen the audio is off and it drives me crazy, but the info is so helpful, I'm gonna keep watching. Hopefully he can figure that out. :)

[@RetroRGB]

It's so weird - Some people say it's perfect and others have trouble with the video sync. The file on my hard drive is perfect. I wonder what's happening...

[@flow221]

Only seller is in the UK? Urgh.

[@mrmaestrom]

That's better than if the only seller were in the US. International postage costs are insane from the USA.

[@flow221]

@@mrmaestrom Not better for me.

[@RetroRGB]

Shipping's cheap enough that it won't be much different than a US store. Anyone that's bought from RGC before knows the shipping is good.

[@dionr1168]

@@RetroRGB Would any additional customs taxes be an issue?

[@MrMegaManFan]

Damn! Where has THIS product been all my life??

[@orbitingdecay6797]

I have that mug , I love it and the Pipe one too.

[@samlepirate4845]

Will they make more ? Prices for second hand are ridiculous, more expensive than an ossc

[@RetroRGB]

They're definitely making more. It's just taking longer than usual because of everything going on.

[@kylesaver167]

well I'm sold, can't wait for them to be available for my RGB modded N64

[@Lakster37]

So is the RGB->HDMI converter part of these cables essentially the same as the RetroTink? Does that mean you're essentially buying another RetroTink with each cable?

[@RetroRGB]

Yes and yes. So, if you've already bought a RetroTINK, this isn't for you...but if you're just getting into the scene and want an easy way to get started: Perfect.

[@Lakster37]

@@RetroRGB Thanks for the clarification!

[@ians_parks]

@@RetroRGB Its less cables for me to swap out of my retrotink 2x tho if i have dedicated hdmi cables for both my snes and genesis. I can just leave my n64 svideo cable in my retrotink2x and forget about it.

[@coderkind]

Would it be possible to use the Genesis version of this with the Saturn via a HD Retrovision Genesis 2 adapter? Rather than buy two cables for two consoles; the one cable might work with both (Genesis and Saturn)?

[@siaiqkg8763]

Looks good, but how many u have from dis cable? 4 or 6? So many peoples like... i need only for ps1 not a big adapter for 200$.

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

Nice flying V dude what is that a jackson or ibanez?

[@jason41483]

So, will this resolve the fact that I can't get my SNES to display audio or video to my Samsung 1080p TV using RF or AV Composite cables? I'm pulling my hair out after I've cleaned my console, soldered a new fuse, and still can't get my console to work on my flat screen TV. I'm not interested in paying $1K for a Framemeister or buying an old CRT tube TV.

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, this or the RetroTINK products should be perfect.

[@jason41483]

@@RetroRGB If that doesn’t work, I fear there may be a dead chip in my system. Troubleshooting has been a rough go!

[@cyo_corner]

Could you do a side-by-side of the ultraHDMI and RGBmodded N64 with etim's RGB mod+rad2x? I'm at a stand still at what to mod into my n64

[@tyler6644]

FOR PS1... How would this compare to the image quality of a HDRetrovision genesis cable with Playstation adapter + Retrotink2x? Does this hdmi solution make my setup redundant? If it's the same exact quality i'd love to switch over to this.

[@RetroRGB]

The quality would be identical to your current setup. Switching to this means less cables...but I'd hold onto the HD Retrovisions for use on CRT's.

[@tyler6644]

@@RetroRGB Awesome! Thanks! Also, as another user has asked....Could I use hd retrovision's saturn, PS1, neo geo adapter on the rad2x genesis cable?

[@Technocian]

Are there any plans for the Nintendo versions to include S-video? Seems like a big improvement that they chose to miss out on. The only thing that couldn't benefit from S-Video would be an unmodded SNES Jr., but everything else would be drastically better. S-video would be particularly huge for people with a stock N64 or DOL-101 GameCube, as there are no plug and play low-cost solutions for either of those right now.

[@RetroRGB]

I cover this in the upcoming SNES video. You'll be surprised at how little S-Video matters in this context.

[@root42]

Hm, the 480i captures do not look that good. I am aware of the problems with interlacing and there is probably no perfect solution. But I think in interlaced modes it would actually make sense to collect both fields and output them as one 480p image. Even though this would result in lag.

[@RetroRGB]

Yeah, but that would make the cable more expensive. I agree though, I hate how 480i looks on a flat-screen. It's only an issue with PS2 though, as most other consoles will be primarily 240p.

[@ians_parks]

@@RetroRGB Guess we gotta hold out for the PS2HDMI mods.

[@videogameobsession]

10:47 It looks like this might have the same problem which I experienced with the XAgent cables I've recently tested. The video is VERY dark. Crushing blacks and no way to adjust it through the display without getting a washed out looking contrast.

[@ians_parks]

Bob claims this to be prototype footage and not at all final. They were more conscerned with getting clean rgb footage and that the final product's composite footage should look identical to properly shielded composite cables.

[@VintageGameZ]

Is an Orginal Xbox model likely to come out? would purchase immediately

[@RetroRGB]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKKzmqqFittgn5o

[@JoeyPaone]

You convinced me, but which one for the genesis 1 do I get. The one with the headphone plug or with out it?? Dont want to order the wrong one when they come back in stock

[@RetroRGB]

My favorite choice is to get the Genesis 2 version, then get an adapter for Genesis 1 support. If you're looking to save cash though, just get the Genesis 1 version. There's lots more info here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ-9ZqybpLqkisU

[@Gamerguy8585]

So I don’t know if it is just me but when I look at my SNES with the Rad 2x it has some like wavy lines on top of the image that give it like the device is unshielded. I know it’s the Rad 2x and not my system because when I use my OSSC, It doesn’t have the wavy lines but it does on Rad 2x. Is there a way to fix the wavy lines or is it just a malfunction I can’t repair

[@habrN]

Hi! I have psx model scph-1002. I am trying to find solution how i can get colors on ntsc games. I only have hd-monitor and tv so the rgb scart cable isn't the solution. Should ra2x zero-lag cable to be answer? Or should i buy some high end rgb scart to hdmi converter?

[@AlexTheSoutherner]

I thought I was seeing double at 4:22. You have the exact same model TV I got for christmas. Same screen saver and the menu is identical. It's an LG right? Does it suffer from the same auto dimming issue a lot of newer TV's do when images on screen are dark or brighter causing the tv to try to auto adjust the backlight? Drives me up the wall, wish I could figure out a way to tell it to stop. Energy saver does nothing.

[@mikebrasoljr8857]

Will I be able to use a RAD2X to output 480p RGB from a Japanese Master System (MK-2000)?? I reached out to RGC several days ago and haven't gotten a response yet. You mentioned that these cable work with consoles around the world but I wanted to double check. Thank you for your contributions to the retro gaming community. Happy New Year!

[@RetroRGB]

I don't think so, as the MK-2000 has a completely different output circuit than all other Master System consoles. It won't hurt to try though, as the signal (voltage) might be too weak, not too strong.

[@mikebrasoljr8857]

RetroRGB I appreciate the response, brother. I agree I figured the different output may be a hinderance. I know the Nintendo multi-out has the “auto-detect” but I was curious if the others “search” for the RGB signal as well. It’s all good though, I just picked up a North American Master System to be sure my console would work with the new cable. I can’t wait to see the SMS in RGB. My Genesis already looks amazing (as you know)! Thanks again man and I look forward to more of your videos. Take care!

[@nopenop1495]

Please tell me there's one in the works for Dreamcast. Kaico doesn't work properly with my TV. IDK if it'd work given that the DC outputs in RGB.

[@Riful]

Would it be worth getting the PS one just for PS2? And is the rad2x superior than the retrotink in this case?

[@extremawesomazing]

My guess is that this isn't superior to the Retrotink unless you need the added simplicity of the RAD2x

[@RetroRGB]

RAD2x pretty much IS the RetroTINK. If most of your favorite PS2 games are 480i only, then yeah, get this. If your favorite games have 480p support, just get the HDRetrovision Component cables.

[@Riful]

@@RetroRGB Would you say that the HDRetrovision Component cables are roughly the same as the OEM Sony Silver component cables(currently using)?

[@ians_parks]

@@RetroRGB I find myself defaulting to 480i passthrough when using the ps2 on the retrotink2x because the flickering bugs me. Do these cables have a similar mode switch or is it always set to Bob deinterlace?

[@lawrencepham3284]

@RetroRGB 1. So is there no issues with OSSC and the SNES PAL (or NTSC) at all? Or is it just a matter of compatibility? 2. Which RAD2X can be used for SNES PAL? 3. Which RAD2X can be used for SEGA MegaDrive (PAL)? Thanks again :-)

[@RetroRGB]

All RAD2x are compatible with all regions. Just buy the ones for each system, as linked in the description and on RetroRGB.com

[@ShiggitayMediaProductions]

So these cables are basically cable-ized RetroTink2X's. That's damn cool. @retroRGB: would you happen to have a BlackMagic Design Intensity Pro 4k in a system you run/own? I have to run two separate capture cards for my consoles (one for modern direct HDMI (PS3/PS4/Nintendo Switch) i.e. the PCI-E-based IP4k I mentioned and one for my old consoles (PS1/PS2/SFC) i.e. a USB 3.0-based Razer Ripsaw via a RetroTink2x and some HDRetroVision components cables through a component switcher box for each of the older systems mentioned. I know the RetroTink2x outputs through miniHDMI, but for some reason my IP4k cannot receive any sort of usable signal from the RetroTink's output. I get a wicked V-Hold effect (sync issues I'm guessing... I think it's just under 60 Hz), making any footage / capture useless. If you'd like some footage of that to see what I mean I can take some. The Razer Ripsaw on the other hand receives the RetroTink2x's signal super nicely and the captured footage looks awesome. So with all that said do you have the aforementioned BMD IP4k PCI-E capture card to test with an SFC and one of these new Nintendo MultiOut RAD2x cables coming out? Even a prototype would work for a test. If they don't produce the V-Hold effect I might get rid of the Razer Ripsaw and go all straight IP4k for all my consoles, which is what I'd prefer to do. Thanks, and I hope I made sense.

[@AlexvrbX]

Bob, I'm torn. Help me out here. I'm looking to hook up my Genesis stack, Saturn, DC, maybe a couple others to a modern TV. Should I get shielded RGB SCART cables, a high-end SCART switch, and a lone Retrotink? Or a fistful of RAD2x cables and an auto HDMI switch? If so, are there auto switches you recommend? Which setup would have lower final latency?

[@RetroRGB]

Both will have zero latency and are excellent solutions. Keep in mind that Dreamcast is best played in 480p though, so you might want a solution that can handle the signal from all those consoles like the OSSC, or the new device Mike keeps teasing...

[@AlexvrbX]

@@RetroRGB Is it possible to get 480p from the Dreamcast without using the VGA pins? Not all games are VGA compatible... I can't remember if component can do 480p on the DC, I know I've gotten progressive output via component for other consoles in the past. I had component for my original Xbox and it looked great (official cables, the third party cheapos I tried had mega noise issues).

[@RetroRGB]

Only VGA, however you can also use custom SCART cables, or the upcoming HD Retrovision cables: www.retrorgb.com/dreamcast.html