Best Hot Hatch? Ford Vs Renault Vs MINI - Carfection

[@Rade363]

I fell in love with MINI JCW since I watched this particular video several years ago and finally got my own one a couple of months ago. Thank you, Carfection :)

[@Whiponized]

Congrats baaby boi? Whow is it now?

[@brennanderek3104]

You all prolly dont care but does anybody know of a way to get back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb forgot the login password. I love any assistance you can offer me.

[@leonelquinn9106]

@Brennan Derek Instablaster =)

[@CampbellZeroOne]

I tried all of these and was more than happy to pay the extra for the Mini JCW! It oozes quality and makes me smile every time that I get into it. I recently paid Mountune money for a Superchips ECU remap which has given it a huge leap in performance and surprised quite a few people who thought that it was 'just a Mini'! I also opted for the auto box which I had absolutely no intention of trying, liking or buying because real drivers don't need them... Dunno if I'll ever go back now!

[@hartsickdisciple]

The ST twins are still the best hot hatches. They're the most fun to drive, and yet you can live with them every day. Ford captured lightning in a bottle with those cars.

[@hartsickdisciple]

***** The Focus ST has a better interior. I've owned 2 of them. They don't have top of the line quality, but they're not bad. Good for the price. It's not a rattle box.

[@ThexMJT]

Don't mind the interior of the ST think its a nice place to sit and be in

[@nigo1787]

"you can live with them every day" you can, but you have to make compromises. I'm OK with the interior, but not OK with the ride. The Clio is at least good at one point : it's a LOT more comfortable, with its hydraulic suspension bushes thingy, without compromising the handling

[@niklasnevesrensen5679]

Really good video! A bit of Top Gear without it becoming too awkward/wannabe. Just 2 blokes who likes cars and are able to talk about them without getting crazy boring or too technical. And last but not least, what a cool line up of cars!

[@robz1471]

Niklas Neve Sørensen yes but he called it a "stick shift"...

[@jacobreising817]

You described it perfectly, no buttons. Eco mode is your right foot, Sport mode is your right foot. That is the kind of car I love daily driving.

[@inkno701]

I'll bet if the Mini was a manual transmission it would have been the most fun. You guys should do a test of manual vs automatic transmissions, with both manual and auto versions of like an inexpensive car and both versions of a faster higher end car. And see whether the cheaper car with a manual is more fun then the high end car with an auto.

[@bbkangs]

I love my 2015 6 speed manual MINI Cooper S 🇬🇧

[@JuanCostanzo]

I've bought a 208 gti a month ago and I have to say that little hot hatches are super fun.

[@nr92cp6]

Interesting your thoughts on the looks. I think the FiST looks by far and away the best. The Renault has little style to the design, while the Mini looks bloated with a bunch of funny-shaped ducts.

[@giovanniares1895]

I love the way british people can keep calm even before a crash (almost), and then smile too, hahaha great. ^_^

[@thelegendthatismatt]

Really loved this. Multiple presenters gave it a top gear feel which is never a bad thing!

[@Mugtree]

I have a 2003 Cooper S. Had it from new and love it. Wish I could afford the JCW. Until I can I'll keep loving my Mini

[@Mathis092]

he's right, i would buy the fiesta st and the money i saved i would get some mountune upgrades and not void the warranty and have an awesome car

[@carswithluke]

I just love a Hot Hatch

[@vincentadema]

Gut wise I'd choose the MINI JCV, but the arguments you both make for the Fiesta ST are solid. Pleasure to watch.

[@Blackgriffonphoenixg]

This was as fun to watch as a Top Gear segment, I'm not kidding.

[@Tiger5672]

+LIMIT CYCLE I agree! It was filmed really well and the guy was fun to listen to :)

[@AndresMilioto]

I was looking for a comment like yours after I heard him say "you brought a Renault Clio". It was hearing Clarkson pissed off at Hammond's mustang, or May pissed of at Clarkson's alfa...

[@sharinganwarrior2017]

Had my fist st a week running around 230bhp and yet to not smile when u give it some amazing machine and handles so well

[@iansoderlund3539]

I would pay to have Renault in the U.S.

[@matgee8892]

I still maintain that you cannot have a hot hatch with an automatic gearbox.

[@kma198199]

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[@ShadowFalcon]

Agreed. The Clio R.S. Sold its soul (fun) to the devil (all out performance). Fiesta for me.

[@ShadowFalcon]

***** Not really. The 991 GT3 RS, is in an entirely different league from your normal hot hatch. It's a track-toy, not an everyday fun-mobile. Track-toys, and supercar (and hypercars) are allowed to have "race" gearboxes (because, in my mind, a DSG or Sequential isn't an automatic).

[@dino130395]

+Mat Guest True. I wouldn't have it in any car for that matter. A Dual-Clutch on the other hand is okay

[@jimmychanga4130]

+sax0joe the difference between the 911 and the Clio is the power. when these hot hatches have under 300 whp it makes it so much more involving using a stick. I get the paddles in a 911 although I would still rather have a stick lol. IMO isn't the whole point of owning a hot hatch to enjoy it?

[@Xyzabc998]

Small, fast Fiascos have always been great. Avis used to rent out the old Fiasco S with the 1.6 Zetec. Just so much fun like the Pug GTi's. Mini's always seem to contrived not to mention big, especially the new ones. The MK I with the supercharger would be tempting though. Another great review.

[@RussNicholls]

Fiesta and with the saved £5k take it to Mountune :)

[@dalomusic5509]

Got a JCW F56 few days ago. Glad i spent the extra money. I frkn love it!

[@malcwells9147]

Great review guys.I'll be honest. I was a bit sceptical about flappy paddles in the JCW, but they're actually a lot of fun. Makes great noises when you downshift. Just can't wait till Wednesday when mine gets the new Pro Exhaust for the JCW with the controllable valve for a bit more noise and a few more horses, a smattering of carbon thrown around it and a few other bits.You don't buy a MINI for practical or economic reasons though. It's all about having a laugh, and that's exactly what this car is.

[@philip771]

What an absolutely brilliant video!!! Gotta love Alex - "you are the sport button". I'm thinking of buying a used ST now and his summary has really helped me get over its shortcomings (interior, looks). Just so brilliantly filmed and compared, well done Carfection.

[@nopenope250]

Non comparable cars. Ford ST is all, fast, beautiful, tunable, reliable, practical, economical.... While other two are missing one or more above mentioned things... Ford simply made best car and future legend.

[@Afgelope1]

Almost couldn´t agree more, Fiesta ST is just perfect fun, for anyone at any Age.

[@ThexMJT]

ST is crazy fun, love mine

[@lancevanamburg3924]

I own a mini jcw. Proud as hell to say that. It’s so fun to drive.

[@PaulHojda]

The Clio is by far the best looking of the three. Renault just need to listen and give it a bloody manual gearbox. Then it will be perfect

[@dahorn100011]

+Paul Hojda Exactly, I don't care if its slower, its just the feel and sensation of using a well sorted clutch and gearbox.

[@PaulHojda]

Admiral_Awesome Well, the Clio doesn't have a well sorted double clutch, it's a terrible double clutch. They should at least give people the option to chose between a manual or automatic, like most manufacturers do

[@PaulHojda]

Janner Jan I have driven cars with VW's DSG, and they were lovely. I have also driven a Mégane EDC, which has pretty much the same gearbox as the Clio RS, and it was nowhere near as good as the DSG. It was slow and always seemed to be stuck in the wrong gear at the wrong time, and shunted at low speeds. A lot of it has to do with the fact that the Renault gearbox uses a dry clutch, while the DSG is a wet multi-plate clutch

[@YZJB]

+Paul Hojda VW actually have three main DSGs: the DQ200 7-speed dry-clutch, DQ250 6-speed wet-clutch and DQ500 7-speed wet-clutch. Cars such as the Polo, low-powered Golfs, petrol Passats etc. use DQ200 while the Golf GTI and 2.0L diesels use the DQ250. DQ500 is used in Tiguan, Multivan, Caravelle etc.

[@TheBioSkunk]

+Paul Hojda The Megane's gearbox is not the same. If you did not try the Clio trophy's gearbox then you just don't know. It is very-very quick and responsive. What you are saying has nothing to do with the fact it is a dry clutch. Dry clutch gearboxes are even quicker than the wet ones. This renewed gearbox is from Getrag, not from Renault and it is brilliant!

[@belgianbushrc7934]

I used to hate on automatic transmissions, saying I would only have one if I had no choice. Having driven the Clio Rs 220 trophy 2017, I retract my statement, and am picking one up on monday!

[@RandomVideosFirst]

10:40 "Because the wheels are at each corner of the car" opposed to being in the middle of the car I guess lmao lol

[@trevorbarrett5507]

I own a 2017 Fiesta ST with a Stratified Stage 2 tune with the accompanying modifications. Looking to go Stage 3 when my decatted downpipe arrives. It's an absolute joy to drive! But I have to say, that JCW sounds amazing!

[@77GR1982]

Fiesta ST: The New KING Of The Hill...

[@motorrecon200]

I have a Mountune ST with the Cat Back exhaust and the Mountune Suspension and it makes the best car by far even better well worth the extra money.

[@x58evo2puma7]

What horse power is your fiesta st I have one mine is 215 hp ford has done a good job on this new Firsta better then the old fiesta

[@motorrecon200]

wayne allan its 215 with the Moutune MP215 kit on :). They have indeed its hands down the best car I've driven specially on country roads it just grips and flays along

[@ExoNavi]

I love my ST. It's a steal at the price point

[@jameslowther5227]

I bought my ST-2 Fiesta with the Mountune MP215 upgrade upon collection. Not that I have driven a std ST, I have to say the smile factor is immense. I have ordered the new Focus RS to replace my much loved Fiesta ST.

[@rfouR_4]

I too had a Supercharged Mini Cooper S. Mini is far too bloated now so I went with the Fiesta ST too.

[@blvk_sky]

All 3 are awesome, but I'd take the FiST.

[@piero914]

Yaaaay longer vids! I still won't forgive you for the name change, but I enjoyed this video. Thumbs up.

[@Autophorie]

Are you comparing the new Focus RS to its rivals any time soon? Looking forward to that :)

[@marvinmaro1633]

Great test guys.... But I missed one care in the test Peugeot 208GTI 30th hope that you test the car also, and the fiesta ST200..

[@JSPE13]

Great video, i reckon a manual mini would have been the winner, depending on weather the interior justifies the extra price, which in my opinion it does

[@Yathuprem]

4:23 Looks exactly like Topgear !! When they do the challenges in their episodes, Miss them Cant wait for the amazon show

[@slywind30]

You guys always forget the Ibiza Cupra!, own a 1.4 tsi Cupra 6j pre facelift! It outruns the st any day, dsg7 box is superb and the power delivery is incredible! The limited slip diff works superb and can throw it into any corner!, they've changed to the 1.8 turbo now but still heard the 1.4 tsi is much more fun even with its known problems! Give it a chance sometime!

[@roguedogx]

completely in agreement on the analysis, and I would totally have the ford.

[@ScottZ370]

Still would take the last generation Clio RS 197

[@Gasinduced]

+S Miller The 197 is good but the Clio III 200 fills the gaps of the 197.

[@ScottZ370]

Gasinduced​ I always forget the differentiation between them, your right the 200 is the one to get

[@Gasinduced]

+S Miller The Angel & Demon/Raider (Matte finish paint) and the 20th Anniversary (White or Yellow with the black roof) are the ones to get.

[@edward92128]

Awesome video guys. Really like where this channel is going.

[@SuperJoyful10]

I'd rather have my car, the clio 172 cup!

[@mwuuuu]

Finally, a proper review/comparison vid! Great to watch, bit of top gear in there :)

[@bingoberra18]

How about just buying the Clio 182 and call it a day :)

[@russellwoodhouse1102]

^^^^^^^^^^ this guy has the right idea!

[@bingoberra18]

***** Thats really what I wanna do, im driving around in a phase 3 clio 1.2, 75hp...

[@russellwoodhouse1102]

Yeah and the repair bills. I drive an R27 as a daily and it costs a bomb when summut gives up on it and it's very hard to get our child in and out of the back.

[@jmcphee7]

I had the R27 and I can back you up there. The recaros were impossible and the ride was bone shatteringly hard. I swapped it for the 200 and that was even harder lol

[@cameronmilne3590]

bingoberra18 because I don't want to die.

[@SDMTB14]

Im not saying the Mini is better but giving the prize to the Fiesta and the reason being just the automatic transmission of the Mini is just stupid. You can buy it with a proper gearbox and a bit cheaper.

[@Mantenner]

A bit cheaper? Yes. Cheaper than the highest trim FiST? Still no. The cost was the main point, not the auto transmission.

[@peterdurnell3325]

@@Mantenner Cooper S is arguably the direct rival to the ST though, not the JCW...

[@KevinpDouglas]

Having test drove many hatches end of last year. I plumped for a fiesta st-3 in blue. It really is a great car. I also bought it on Black Friday securing £3k off list. My with change, I ordered the Mountune upgrade to 215 bhp for £500. Making this fast ford probably the fastest Bargain out there and be interested to see how it performs against its rivals figures now!!!

[@richardhurr31]

I'm about to buy one £4200 off list 😄

[@KevinpDouglas]

+Richard Hurr that's a great deal.

[@richardhurr31]

+Kevin Douglas yeah sure is! And think 2016 is the last year of the MK 7 ST? So I'd be crazy not to.

[@WhitewalkerII]

Next time add the Peugeot 208 Gti to the comparison

[@MrBillyboyroge]

Why?! The Fiesta ST has already won the battle. That's why in this video they are comparing a 3 year old car against the latest 2 'new' hot hatches

[@WhitewalkerII]

MrBillyboyroge Because the 208 is one of the best in its class and its engine is similar to the one of the previous Mini Cooper S/JCW.

[@MrBillyboyroge]

+WhitewalkerII as you say, the 208 is 'one' of the best in it's class The ST is 'the' best in the class the 208 is in... No need to compare it again

[@WhitewalkerII]

MrBillyboyroge As long as the cars are not compared you can't tell the Fiesta is the best. It's the best of the cars in the video. The 208 has been updated since its launch.

[@MrBillyboyroge]

+WhitewalkerII well maybe that comparison can be made when ford release the limited edition Fiesta ST200 (in uk June 2016)

[@skylineXpert]

you forgot the 208 gti peugeotsport

[@jameslloydcole8783]

Have you driven a GTi, they're super bland...

[@dgbservices6049]

James Cole no they’re not mate.

[@emrico]

like the new format guys. a last gen 200 cup clio will with recaros will do me fine, a bit too hardcore for everyday but then it's very cheap in the used market...

[@SeandeDios]

Top Gear starts at 4:22 and I ain't complaining.

[@Nakke144]

I don't get what they have done with the new Mini. The first new Mini looked really good, this looks like a small SUV that has been shrunk in the wash. Fiesta ST, yes please.

[@MegaGasek]

You don't have to go to the most expensive one, to get the feel and fun of a Mini. The Cooper S is good enough and has the great interior the other 2 cars can't touch and it handles corners really well, plus it is fun to drive.

[@kevingraham927]

disagree the R56 is right in with the old style... the only thing I notice is more body roll​ compared to my R50, no problem fixing that, I mean I got my R56 used for only 15...with 19000 miles so some money to spend

[@GT-gt4bf]

Great video. Agree 100% that the Ford is the best.

[@TheDustyaman]

I know the veloster is a black sheep of the hot hatchbacks. But dam its still fun. and for a 500 dollar tune. its 260 to the wheels is plenty.

[@TheDustyaman]

+Carfection Wow didnt know that. Thank you for letting me know. Looks like they will have a 2017 model here also

[@AzimSF]

Was that sheep brake noise added in or was it pure natural delicious braking?

[@MidhunCM]

+Carfection What vehicle is used for the camera crew?

[@d0718]

+Midhun C. Manohar Focus ST diesel

[@TDarKKiller]

+Midhun C. Manohar the defender... They've made a review of it

[@pedaorm]

+Yehonatan Lindell not anymore, its a focus now.

[@jupitersamjk]

Great review Zcar, more of this please!

[@alpinosnipes]

Really felt like I was watching top gear :) great video!!

[@w-james9277]

No hot hatch should EVER have an automatic gearbox imo

[@cosminpopa8630]

+Leopard95 I agree with you but the GTI double clutch is pretty damn good.

[@w-james9277]

Cosmin Popa Im sure it is but imo, hot hatches are about making the car fun and engaging to drive aka, taking a boring car and making it interesting. A double clutch doesn't do that. I understand why supercars use duel clutches but not a 2 litre hatchback.

[@chung729chung]

Not everyone live in areas that hv no traffic and no mountains.

[@Kai_ST200]

@@chung729chung living in Aachen, a quite old city, where the streets are really narrow, much traffic due big car competences here and many many cyclists from the big university RWTH. Also there are not many big hills in Aachen itself, but for sure Aachen is a city where it goes up and down all the time and has many small hills. Also the Eifel (where the Nürburgring is) is right next to Aachen, one of Germany's biggest mountains. I do not need any automatic or double clutch 😉

[@matts1083]

A hothatch is whatever the manufacturers want it to be. I'm pretty sure my automatic could kick most manuals buts. And I have more fun seeing them in my rear view mirror than you have using more components to gain less rewards. Pointless :)

[@j.a.g.8689]

The Gti would beat all of them, but the JCW should have won.

[@baileybonce7267]

I test drove a polo gti before I bought my 2017 fiesta ST, and in every single way the fiesta was better, even overall the interior was because of the polo's dreadful seats

[@dgbservices6049]

kirky 951 I think J.A.G was referring to the 208 GTi by PS 🤷‍♂️

[@bfcricky]

Add the £599 Ford approved Mountune upgrade and the Fiesta will trounce both of them.

[@SnakeyUk08]

+BFC Ricky My brother has that fitted makes the engine sound a bit throatier too

[@ksedgwick5173]

BFC Ricky Or stage 3 Revo and take it to 300bhp

[@elliotalderson6239]

BFC Ricky You mean the MT215 kit which only ups the power to 212bhp, you would need the £1,995 MR230 kit to keep up lol. Stage 3 ha. Just remap the mini and boom you've got 300bhp....

[@alexandrefernandes9233]

You can use the stick instead of the paddles. You only don't have the clutch pedal. But well... it is more engaging the manual shift, but it also take you of the wheel... I think it is a matter of likes!

[@chrismilly]

Excellent video really enjoyed watching !

[@savke1982]

Fiesta just needs a little wider wheel arches

[@atc37]

Anyone else love how the "Mini" looks like it's the biggest of the three cars?

[@jianminglee5410]

anyone think "Top Gear" during the Clio entrance?

[@sanscipher]

Couldn't wait for the ST220? That should solve the "lack of power" question... The pro-manual testimony is exactly right, though, thank you guys! No need for buttons. The only time I wouldn't mind one is if it was in a sporty family car to switch it to a family-friendly comfort mode.

[@sanscipher]

Got it. Well, that calls for a new round then, doesn't it? ;)

[@jannerjan8553]

+Carfection spent 5 month doing this piece of shit work? Shame on you! I guess it was filmed on the same day like your previous video with the Clio Trophy. How much did Ford pay for this one? You could have at least change your clothes and make some proper shoots. You are an idiot and a liar! The Clio Trophy's gearbox is just brilliant and it is everywhere by miles quicker than the Fiesta and still much more comfortable for every day use. That is what a Hot Hatch should be! And you driving like a grandpa and you want to tell us which is a better hot hatch. You are a clown!

[@sanscipher]

Janner Jan Easy, Tiger! What's with the name-calling? This is about personal preference, in case you didn't really pay attention and only wanted to see your car win (oh, internet, what's wrong with you?). It doesn't say: Go buy this. It says: I like this best because of..." And the reasoning is quite elaborate, but you don't have to agree, do you? Now go back to your Clio, or did this video make you enjoy your car any less?

[@TheBioSkunk]

+defilor the problem is that they lied about the Clio's gearbox and did not highligthed the benefits and the abilities of the Clio at all. They can like the Fiesta more, I also don't give a shit, but they were just unfair. That is what made him so angree I guess... and I cannot disagree with him eighter.

[@TheBioSkunk]

+defilor Yes, I agree! Let do a re-match with that one, but not based on personal preferences, but do it this time in a proper way on a closed B road, or on a track. Then we can see which is the real king of small hot hatches.

[@truestar1995]

yay finally... but I still haven't forgiven y'all for changing your name from XCAR

[@Taurim]

I keep my Clio 3 RS 200 Cup : the last and one of the best NA/manual hot hatch ! It's not about numbers, it's about the sheer fun of a real "analogic" car.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

The only man that can give good advice on a car is Chris Harris...and all the clio gearbox haters have no clue how amazing it actualy is to drive

[@Cain353]

Well Chris Harris said they're both brilliant for different reasons. The Fiesta has a wonderful gearbox and feels more lively. The Clio has the better chassis. He couldn't name one over the other as the clear winner unless he did a comparison, which he never did. All in all it comes down to preference, you want a manual? Fiesta ST or 208 GTI. Auto? Clio RS.

[@benanderson89]

+Dale Anthony van der Linde -- I've driven the clio 200 with the DCT and its slow to respond, gets easily confused and just feels lethargic. Its not a nice gearbox at all.

Mini wins!!! ...a total package.

[@ponygt6629]

Great to see the Fiesta still remains the hot hatch king of the

[@jannerjan8553]

+Ponygt 662 your Hot Hatch king is the slowest :D Try to hold its crown strong if you are beaten by the Clio in corners, in straight line and basically everywhere. But yeah, it is the king :D :D

[@ponygt6629]

Janner Jan Never under estimate man, see its more than enough fast, probably just 0.2-.1 s slower than Clio, Mini JCW, but that wont even move a hair f the ST, The ST is superb in makimg one a proffesional driver, other cars flatter U, Fiesta ST teaches U to drive, I find that the best trait ever on a car, see U can spin a ST if U r too much into it, it will do a pooppy over steer, and undet steers as well, but while doing so, it manages to give the driver options and time to think and gives us perfect control, not so with the Clio nor the Mini

[@TheBioSkunk]

+Ponygt 662 It is actually a bit more than 0.1-0.2 :) Accoring to the tests the Fiesta ST does the 0-100 (62) in 7.2, the Clio trophy does the same in 6.5. And from 0 to 200 there is a gap of more than 5 seconds ;) Just to make it clear. That is a huge gap! And similar results around tracks. It is a HUGE performance difference between these 2 cars. And yes, in the straight line the Mini JCW is even faster, but around the track and so on B roads the Clio trophy is the real king. It beets easily the Mini JCW and the old JCW GP as well, and destroys the Fiesta ST. So why do you underestimate that car? Oh, and about handling :) especially there you shoudn't comment if you never have driven the Clio Trophy. Its handling is just wonderful. Perfect! So never underestimate man, never! Especially not if you don't know enough about the other one ;)

[@ponygt6629]

TheBioSkunk Well again U ve under estimated the Fiesta ST agaain, Remember the auto express track battle between Fiesta ST,Clio RS, and Peugeot 208 GTI, The Fiesta ST despite having 0-100 in 7.5 was fastest around loop,.and I ve driven Clio RS b4 picking the ST, the Clio RS is fat and easily succumbs to under steer, the ST fights it with rotation, NO the Clio dosent have that magic, the ST is almost like a fwd car that has some rwd chara...no Clio dosent have it, Then there s the steering, The Clio has a faster rack but lacks progression, its more precise but tye feel is an issue,ST communicates better and has more progressive feel, Then the srock tires of Clio r better, I changed em and boy the ST s too damn awsome with better rubber, Clio has another chara that I hated, the unwanted up shifts, it shifts up on its own even in manual mode,and dont even talk about down shifts the DSG is light years better than Renaults shitty Dual clutch I will agree that Clio has better top end and mid range torque,but ST nails the low end and mid range, i personally think low mid range is what hot hatxhes need most Then the price sets the deal, The ST is unmistakably king, I think top gear too made a track battle between ST and Clio and there too the ST won,

[@TheBioSkunk]

+Ponygt 662 But is it clear for you that the car you have driven (Clio 4 RS) is not the same we are talking about?????? Is it clear?? The Clio trophy is by miles better and quicker than the normal Clio 4 RS Cup. Is it clear for you? Do you know that what you are saying is not true for the Trophy? For example it has a chassis set up which is much more willing to oversteer than in the normal one. there is no understeer at all in the Trophy. And the Fiesta ST has the same rubber the Renault was using for the Nordschleife record run on the Megane RS 265 Trophy. Did you know that?? And the gearchanges are super fast know, also the dowshifts. Not comparable with the normal CLIo RS's gearbox. The whole car is a different kind of animal and it is a brilliant piece of kit now. And none of them shift up by itself in RACE mode. That is also a fact. The steering is also better and even faster, etc... It is clear know that you don't know anything about the car you are talking about. And the top gear test... oh man, the normal Clio 4 RS Cup has beaten there the Fiesta ST. :D and as I said and as test were proven it as well the Clio Trophy is by miles quicker than the normal Clio RS Cup. Performance wise the Fiesta ST is just no match for the Clio Trophy. Not in the straight line, not around track and not even on B roads. Bye bye

[@ThomasHarrisonLord]

Would have been nice to see the Peugeot Sport 208 GTI in this comparison too :)

[@Guy_de_Loimbard]

US version of the Fiesta RS has 197HP. Usually we get the short end of the HP stick vs European/Japanese counterparts, but apparently not this time.

[@richardhurr31]

European ST has exactly the same power. 197 with overboost. Just marketed differently over here.

[@Guy_de_Loimbard]

Seems strange they'd market the 180HP figure when 197 is at the ready at virtually all times in the gears where full torque is delivered (3/4/5/6). If the European ST has an overboost function and it works the same way it works here, it only cuts the HP/torque after 20 seconds of continuous full throttle. If that happens, all you need to do is lift the throttle a bit and re-apply, and you've got your full HP/torque again for another 20 seconds. So for all intents and purposes, this car had the full power and torque available to it virtually the whole time they spent bombing it down these B-roads.

[@richardhurr31]

+DroverChicago you're exactly right! Though I think the overboost is available for 15 seconds. Even so, unless you're bombing it down the Mulsanne straight at Le Mans on a regular basis you're getting 197hp virtually all of the time.

[@andrewbateson7795]

i have an st2 with the mountune and it's the most fun I've had with any car. so much fun for the money. but nearly a year later I'm craving comfort and relaxation haha i still fear for my life everytime i decide to give it some though and that feeling is irreplaceable for such a cheap price

[@dhall3454]

Every so often I try and watch videos about new cars that are meant to be fun and exciting, I get why people like them but I got bored before the end of the fiesta review. I can't get excited about £17,000 cars like this because if I had £17,000 to spend on a car it would all be going on something like an Evo IX or maybe a well kept Supra. You can argue about running costs, but I'd rather eat out less to run those sort of performance cars. Also new cars are huge, look at the size of that 'Mini'.

[@chickensoupfortheloser8515]

Would've put a polo GTI in the comparison.

[@andylie7699]

Not as fun as a Fiesta, but yeah, should be in there, also the Ibiza Cupra, and the Fabia RS

[@pedaorm]

+Andreas Lie All the same car... any of then was enough.

[@andylie7699]

Well, the Ibiza is a bit more fun than its cousins actually, and the Fabia is more practical, probably the "sensible" choice

[@griltig]

The last Renault I found decent was the 5 GT Turbo. I had 3 over the years.

[@brianmogle1121]

Seriously? So, the only reason he likes the Ford better is because it is cheaper.... I thought this was about what car is most fun to drive??? Hands down it's the Mini. Way better materials and quality than the Ford and it will last a lot longer.

[@JordanNaylor]

@carfection, Why didn't you include a 208GTi, the new one features LSD, more power and is a fantastic little car. More similar to the Fiesta than the Mini

[@Polomissen]

Can't wait for the Ford Fiesta ST200 😎

[@Reckeeto]

Solution is cooper S manual, eliminates price argument and still got power in excess of ford.

[@stephane_edouard]

Is this a Top Gear hommage ? You forgot to say "nice wheels"

[@sky_004]

Can I come pick up the lonely Renault?

[@Dutchforces1]

Are you guys planning on moving to 60fps soon? It's the only thing lacking about the great video quality.

[@marcodg1990]

can't wait for the fiesta st200, with 200bhp she can be very very fast and still the most fun car to drive!

[@Dolby109]

+Marco Di Giorgio The current Fiesta ST essentially already has 200hp.

[@Cain353]

+Adam S (Dolby109) The ST200 essentially has 215 hp. It's basically a mountuned Fiesta ST with an exclusive colour. Altered final gear allows for quicker in gear acceleration though. ST MP215 does 30-70 in 4th in 5.7 seconds, the ST200 does it in 5.2 seconds.

[@TrekBritain]

Great video, aside from the backing music. Why is jazz playing? Don't loose your edge, Carfection.

[@dedelabinouze5110]

Please for the love of god Renault give us the Alpine A120 with a stick shift ! Don't mess up like you did with the Clio 220 !

[@FakeSTi555]

carrément, mais sur la vidéo d'introduction j'ai vu une boite auto ...

[@dedelabinouze5110]

eX Luucky Je sais je me suis fait le remarque aussi, c'est pour ça que je m'inquiète..

[@FakeSTi555]

+Dédé LABINOUZE y'a plus qu'à croiser les doigts, au moins en option quoi ..

[@FakeSTi555]

+Dédé LABINOUZE y'a plus qu'à croiser les doigts, au moins en option quoi ..

[@marram101]

+Dédé LABINOUZE Renault will fuck it up, don't worry. They have managed to do something stupid to every decent car they produced for the last decade.

[@kianabrishami5146]

You guys should do a film on the Lamborghini LP750-4 Aventador Super Veloce

[@ricka006]

Really don't understand the jibes about the Clios gearbox. It's perfectly fine in auto and in manual mode. It's not exactly slow either on the upshifts or down shifts. The only thing I'd say, is in auto it holds on to gears to long

[@Lo10Wi]

I would have really liked to also see the Seat Ibiza Cupra in this comparison and hear your opinion about it. I feel like the Seat is always forgotten... Is that because it cannot compare to the high levels of the competitors?

[@jukaprocesso]

Missing a polo gti on this comparison...... love this car.....

[@johnjackson12]

How big is the mini now? not really living up to its name lol, Kudos for mentioning the 182 clio, i had one years ago and they are amazing fun

[@Eliano55]

This needs to be done again considering we just got ST200.

[@neilmc5704]

excellent video guys, keep up the amazing standards!! :)

[@stephane_edouard]

What was wrong with the XCar name ??

[@Gasinduced]

+Spike Club There would have been a some kind of licensing or network issue.

[@pereldh5741]

"One wheel at each corner".. might apply on the original Mini but not more than on the other cars here..?