BEST in CLASS: Flappas - Greenskins vs Lizardmen // Total War: WARHAMMER 3

[@buggyenvironment]

Good commentary, I actually never did think about which light chariot I would rate highest but I agree with you. Some additional points: Except Pump Wagons, all other Greenskin chariots (even Grom) are bugged since WH2 and do not generate Waaagh points in melee. Another reason why Flappas are so good is their innate Strider attribute, allowing them to always drive full speed independent of the terrain and ignore damage penalties from heigth differences on their melee and ranged damage.

[@alexanderf8451]

That first change of the pump wagons into skins was insane. Deleted that unit.

[@emultra759]

When would you take the Spiky Rollers variant over Flappas?

[@spanner5940]

Spiky rolls are for when you are expecting heavy infantry like chaos warriors. Unfortunately you barely see heavy infantry these days since the meta is under the illusion that infantry is bad

[@Weberkooks]

@@spanner5940its not really an illusion, I mean they can be good in certain situations but infantry arent winning fights these days. since infantry are just there to support other units, its best to go cheaper. Its not as drastic as im stating here, they can win fights, they just lack agency to get the fights they want meaning they usually dont deliver.

[@spanner5940]

@ i believe its more complicated that that. you just need to force engagements for them to work. low tier cav and dogs are useful to keep cav pinned to them and artillery counters any tactics that dont involve rushing the opponent down. this is why dwarfs, cathay and WoC have the best heavy infantries. they suck in a vacuum, but they work wonders with appropriate support. the amount of times ive beaten very high tier players by just winning the infantry game and keeping their mobility engaged is crazy

[@cramz101]

Flappas have strider which means they ignore terrain. Thats a massive advantage

[@sg_7178]

algoritm to the rescue

[@Ilostmycactus]

Where's the saurus? It's always skinks

[@olafthemoose9413]

Saurus (and similar mid tier grindy infantry like chaos warriors, plague bearers, ...) just struggle a bit atm. Too slow to get anything done and then they just die lategame to cyclecharging or spells or just being drowned in bodies etc The spears can be okay but they are expensive holding infantry and lizardmen shooting is either the skirmishers which don't need to be defended by infantry or are very expensive like the salamanders.

[@Weberkooks]

domination

[@4zUko]

not sure i like the snotling's look in TW. the models used to look a lot more characature-ie. these guys look too serious