Best infantry pairs [Top 4 -- Nov 2023] Rise of Kingdoms Liu Che META

In this video sponsored by the makers of Rise of Kingdoms we'll review the best infantry pairs, talents, and equipment.
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0:00 Best Infantry Fall 2023
1:47 Top 4 Single Infantry Pairs
7:23 Talents - Scipio
8:15 Talents - Gorgo or Tariq
11:41 Talents - Liu Che
12:47 Talents - Sargon
14:03 Other Strong Infantry Combos
16:58 Best 1-2-3-4 Infantry Combos
21:09 What about Trajan?
24:03 META Equipment
26:24 New Player Equipment
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[@Chisgule]

INFANTRY ARE FINNALLY IN A GREAT SPOT; not only has gorgo garrison brought back a lot of possibilities, but for the first time in a LONG time infantry have a field-viable garrison commander. Subscribe with notifications on so you don't miss the next vid discord.gg/chisgule

[@user-mf3pt1gr6e]

Nice video 🤣

[@pound4pound380]

I honestly wouldn't play this game if I always won KVK. I'm a whale and never wanted to join other whales because the result would be the same. This game has alot of players and kingdoms to try out and show what you can do and stand out with the things you bought. I'm in C or B level kindom with 4 whales and the rest are average. I thought about going to an all whale kingdom but the more my account got powerful I kinda felt I worked to hard to be a face in the crowd. I grew with this kingdom from T2 back when all I had max was Double C

[@shahanaahmed3441]

Scipi/Alex cause Alex's Shield? Some sort of synergy and also buffs all the other marches too! Don't forget the insane stats Alex has.

[@IconzBaracuda]

Could Scipio/Liu Che + Guan/Sargon be a better 2 march than Liu Che/Sargon + Guan/Scipio?

[@shahanaahmed3441]

@@IconzBaracuda nope never. Guan Scipi is always a perfect march and Sargon Liu just does better, it's been tested.

[@legitlunaticz]

The point of comparisons and going into equips, talents, and pairings gives me a very solid of what the infantry meta is becoming. thx

[@IconzBaracuda]

Could Scipio/Liu Che + Guan/Sargon be a better 2 march than Liu Che/Sargon + Guan/Scipio?

[@AlbertaViking1977]

Love your videos man!

[@alekseySelivanov-xf7of]

Hello @Chisgule Gaming . In my top 5 marches, Gorgo + Liu Che show the same good kills as Scipio + YSG. But I can’t decide on accessories for the Gorgo + Liu Che pair. Victor (Minamoto cult) says that TOP2 is a horn and a ring. But what about "Greatest Glory" (+5 attack of all types)? In your opinion, what accessories should be put on the Gorgo+Luce combination for the open field?

[@sahilb8690]

If I have scipi maxed, and guan at 5121, should I max guan or Liu to pair with him? I only use 1 infa March

[@CPoppaB1tch]

I'm really feeling the leadership gloves and boots and getting the set bonus

[@destruction1ksa737]

Finally its here! Thank you Chisgule

[@EC-fc4wy]

Is there a stat cap for any of the stats in rok

[@czesiopower_pl2205]

What about mehmed with scypio if i dont have tariq ?

[@NoahJonesNews]

Hey chisgule can you test liu Che with Caesar double relic?

[@mountainstudionocopyrightm1901]

Is guan with gorgo is good? I'm using scipio with liu and guan with gorgo

[@b34st99]

is liu che/scipi great too?

[@danielapalmero2692]

hello chisgule, thank you for this video. however i still have a doubt about the choice of my second infantry pair. I'm currently using gorgo/ liu che for the open field. I'd like to make a second infantry march with scipio prime (already expertise). I'm hesitating about which secondary commander to invest in. In your opinion, is it preferable to invest in Sargon or Tariq?

[@conorlambert6035]

start on LC? Also does it matter if he’s 60 if he’s secondary commander? I have 216 sculptures. 800 stars Or should I keep saving and wait for more sculptures

[@Smurffed]

What if I want to do 3 marches and have Alex, Leo, Harold, CM, Richard, guan, liu Che, skippy, sargon as my options?

[@Mandalorian-wc3dg]

I’m mostly a inf player so this really helps thanks chisgule 😁

[@hassanbelbaysi1888]

here is the good question as a f2p player in kingdom 54 days old and really strong kingdom whats the best to save for Scipio prime and try to expertise him or go for YSG and run YSG with 5-5-1-1 in kvk 1 and 2 already my sun tzu bjorn expertise and working on all epic commanders , my CM 3-1-1-1 and i have rn 110 golden heads with vip level 10 my goal vip level 14

[@floriangabriel2489]

Gorgo liu ,guan scipion, sargon tariq or gorgo liu ,guan sargon ,scipion tariq ??

[@kingdomcrushr2932]

Why is it that Tariq is used as primary with Liu Che? I have invested in arch formation and have good inscriptions and wanted to run Liu/Tariq but if the results are nowhere near as good as Tariq/Liu Che I will consider swapping back to Liu/Sargon.

[@randomtn]

So Sargon primary and liu secondary or?

[@josephdelorenzo351]

Would guan/sargon be good if i run skip./leu? or should i just stick to guan/skip and sar/leu? leu is 5551. the others are expert.

[@TAETO1585]

Is this case I would go guan/Sargon, Scipio/Liu. When you max Liu, I would switch the pairing up, but that's just my opinion.

[@Flowrises]

What is next WoF commanders type?

[@jcmcmillan1720]

For your Martel scip prime combo would you run scip primary or Martel primary? Anybody can answer I have scip 5551 and Martel 5524

[@georgeadams3460]

scipio primary, support tree is great

[@shadowrangedking]

Are Scipio prime primary with YSG and Sargon With LC (5511) viable as 2 open marches?

[@Chisgule]

I wouldn't recommend YSG with scipio these days. YSG should be paired with archers due to the museum buff. Sargon LC 5511 is a fine starting point, IMO use LC primary but sargon primary is also fine.

[@mher2040]

I have expertise bou paired with expertise ysg, 5551 scipio prime paired with aethel and 5511 nevsky paired with muhmed. The question is should I 5551 liu che or expertise scipio and nevsky first?

[@alliegoena3937]

If you focus on infa type. Then max out scipio is the best. Since he is the best infa com by now. Then work on liuche.

[@AlbertaViking1977]

VINDICATION!!! I knew the cav specialist route was the best… and Chisgule says it at 22:20 😅

[@chuyh3051]

Thanks great video! Could you do a best armaments stats? Example when is better to have All dmg vs health? Is 1% dmg better than 3% health?

[@ArjKm]

Skippy with Liu the BEST pair you mentioned. Does Liu Che have to be maxed ? or is 5/5/5/1 enough ?

[@BillsMafiaExperience]

5551 is good enough. You save over 300 gold heads and get most of the value. Better than other commanders maxed.

[@GOG21407]

So I’ve seen people praising lui/Alex. I have them both expertise. I have expertise Scipio. I don’t want to go with any more goldheads in infantry. Is an Expertise Scipio ok with a 5550 Sargon?

[@woutgaming9685]

I have used gorgo liu in KvK as field, garrison and rally march. Im F2P, never spent anything. The results will be placed on my own YT as well, but here a small spoiler: my enemies could almost never trade positive against it.

[@Garo.11]

Great video. So if I'm a cav main and only run 1 inf march, 1 archer and 3 cav marches. I run Guan Scipio as that one march. Is Liu Che worth putting sculps in and replacing Guan or just keep my sculps and stick with Guan Scipio? Thanks

[@skibsskep-ch8gc]

same thought on LC, i don't want to bench my Guan's silence

[@Marqweez]

as an inf main that runs 3 inf marches mine lineups for open field are 1) Guan + Scipio Prime 2) Gorgo + Liu Che 3) Sargon + Tariq works alright for me with other marches

[@atanvarno732]

I'd switch Sargon and Scipio

[@johnroosa7246]

Thanks!

[@Chisgule]

Thanks for the super thanks!

[@FreeguyBlueshirt]

If I only have guan and Alex should I max scipio prime or liu che? Any help appreciated

[@yudi4193]

Liu che cause skill damage. Scipio more tanky but i think the range too slow

[@CPoppaB1tch]

Question to someone inf set shield with talent and iconic. Like 30% attack and 2 piece set bonus would that be better than the blue shield

[@christopherdavis5113]

Go for kvk hammer after talented blue shild.

[@CPoppaB1tch]

@@christopherdavis5113 I've never gotten any coins for the hammer

[@JR_717]

thanks for the meta video, also if i had a 5511 boudica prime with and expertise edward, would it beat cav/inf

[@Chisgule]

I would not recommend Edward at all, especially not with boudica prime.

[@JR_717]

@@Chisgule haha thanks, do you still think boudica with zl is archer meta

[@XanderROK]

​@@JR_717yes best archer open field

[@carlos89784]

​@@JR_717everyone thinks. But people split them often. Boudica/Art ZL/YSG Or Boudica/Art ZL/Nebu Henry/YSG

[@Itachi-ph1sl]

@@JR_717 yes meta pair

[@MrHojoin]

Alex is not coming out at all?

[@matejkovimatejkovi8560]

Hello. Is garrison gorgo+martel good after the update?

[@deputydan2226]

Only on thursdays

[@RTA-ow8py]

Probably Zeno Gorgo Martel is strong against Swarm but weak against Rally.

[@gamernoob0433]

What about alex with liu che?

[@2724Brettskie]

I only have one infa march now guan/Alex. If you had to pick between skippy or Liu who you picking chis ?

[@luisfernando23225]

Scipio is better

[@Chisgule]

I think Scipio might be better for now, but if more smite synergy shows up Liu could easily surpass

[@fabiancarrillo9946]

What about Alex paired with liu che

[@kamykk92]

Liu with alex seed B/C ... amazing results :D

[@WMM-sp]

Scipio prime + liu che?

[@kazimierzpilich5924]

Czy mając gorgo na 5551 można jej używać w polu, czy będzie jeszcze za słaba?

[@ccc5226]

Będzie wymiatała nie wymiecionych :D

[@liubergongora4771]

Gorgo works 5511 or must be maxed for open field??

[@yudi4193]

I am use gorgo 5511 and always be targeting and not recommended if 5511

[@jonr4164]

Top 4 Liu che combos

[@Thought_it_up]

Trajan is just never going to give your other marches more kills than a DPS march could get on its own though. Bench him and get more kills!

[@negobah2]

i really wanna see phyrro + liu

[@julianhairston5411]

I've been using them in champions of Olympia and have been doing great with that pair. I haven't had the chance to test them In SOC yet, because I got liu che right after our last SOC and haven't went to the next one yet.

[@gindaandre5325]

I don't have normal demage armament for gorgo 😪😪

[@hellothere2597]

Video 6 of asking. Please make a video about the ranged commanders margret and babur. Their damage and stats were recently buffed during the last update. Also they not take less time to setup and dismount.

[@EdHeavey]

I believee reason no vid is because there is nothing worth saying about them at this time.

[@hellothere2597]

@@EdHeavey I have used marget and babur in my past and current kvk, and they have been highly effective usually trading at least 3:1 at only 5 5 1 1. Also when they were recently buffed between the two commanders 700 active skills damage was added as well at 25% of stats. Add that to almost any commander pair and they become a viable option. Why should range commanders be any different?

[@kylemortier3471]

No one wants to use towers. They want to move around. Lol

[@asadsajeed7055]

🎉

[@DDKKAY]

Why not run Gorgo/Constantine. And take benefits of the Infantry Buff of Contantine.

[@Chisgule]

Constantine is not a great field commander. Gorgo Constantine would have no march speed at all, it would be miserable to field.

[@GOOGLEUSER-uj5lu]

This is my 2 inf march. I still use guan/scipio massive aoe dmg easy kill points. 2nd march LC/sargon massive kp aswell and Im not the slowest march in the field my marches are very good at chasing troops and whenever I stick to them they cant run anymore 😂

[@skibsskep-ch8gc]

should I keep using my Guan/Skippy or switch to Skippy/LC?

[@ngocquoc2828]

Sargon Honda, Scipio Liu

[@AlexanderAgain3004]

Gorgo can't be meta in open field because she is slow like a snail. And btw top players like cwill said that Tariq/Liu is bad because it's all damage and 0 defense stats making it a squishy pair. If you already have all the commanders you can maybe make 3 inf marches but it's pointless investing into Tariq (rally comm) and Gorgo (garr comm) if you want to use them on the open Field. Better run to 2 inf ( maybe guan scip and sarg/Liu or either guan/sarg and scip/Liu) ... this works for people who are still choosing their investments obviously

[@user-jc7gw8uf1k]

zhuge Lian is bad or meta?

[@XanderROK]

Exactly, Garrison commanders have low life expectancy which is why it's not a wise investment 😂

[@melloismellow7932]

Get your money up broke boy

[@juliasg2217]

Cwill just made a video telling Tariq/Liu is the way to go for open field :)

[@cyberlord645]

Gorgo is getting great trades but its a iffy idea because yes she is a good field damage comamder when paired with liu che but there are so many drawbacks I'd say if someone wanted a garison of sorts and a good comander for fights where you know you can win she can be good but I'd say skip her and liu che unless your such a high spender because if she gets caught in the field she has skills to try and save her but she still would not make it out unscathed she is just so hard to tell how long she will last and lack of march speed on her makes her so bad if someone has a better march aka gear or higher leveled comanders

[@kingpottrott1781]

please make this viedeo for archers❤❤❤

[@assassinwolf7216]

He already did when Zhuge Liang & Dido were released.

[@rfriday9532]

I've never stopped using Constantine. I put honda behind him and people leave him alone whilst Honda does the damage and gives him some match speed. He's not great but lasts in battle so you have more fun playing and less time sad-facing your way home😂

[@ilikeknafs9563]

People don’t target constantine ? Whaaat that’s crazy he does no damage

[@shadowrangedking]

LC or Sargon primary?

[@Chisgule]

You'll get slightly better trades with LC primary.

[@shadowrangedking]

@@Chisgule god damn! Used stars on sargon a while ago for 6star :D is LC viable at 5511? Thank you for answering :)

[@Matt-de7ro]

Guan also has NO hp/def stats whatsoever as well and we're still here, in 2023, use him. And you can ALWAYS use Scipio/Sargon. So, Tariq/LC and Sargon/Scipio is super valid if you care about both high DPS and skill dmg (just will give up on silence).

[@cyberlord645]

If you fight in a group some one will run a guan making now the best time to skip guan and save for liu che sargon or for future comanders yk

[@sushanthreddy9814]

Guan's silence is better imo not to forget it's aoe as well.....as someone who is running 3 inf I would prefer guan anyday ....is Sargon bad no he's freakin strong but enemies will pull their matches away from you even before he does his skill so 🤷

[@cyberlord645]

@sushanthreddy9814 Guan and scipio have a good synergy but I would say if you use sargon scipio or a scipio liu che these 3 are all close if you run 1 infantry multiple infantry basically needs guan for scipio guan but 1 march there are 3 maby 4 with Tariq scipio that are great

[@OmegaMegalodon]

Do not level up any commanders yet. With the meta change, expect more and newer smite cavalry and archer champions to come next. It is better to wait.

[@kimkong4163]

Strong video

[@Tom_TTT]

So, my Harald hasn’t aged well😂

[@holybom23]

I was super close to starting on Harald two years ago when Nevsky and Scipio came out.

[@jacobgotwald1847]

What happened to Constantine?!

[@Chisgule]

Constantine is a great garrison with Gorgo. But I wouldn’t recommend it for field. I mean it could be OK, I haven’t tested it… but Gorgo Constantine would have zero march speed.

[@namnguyenthanh6181]

​@@Chisguleplz hep to re-test Gorgo Constantine vs Nev Justin in rally after updating. Lilith did neft Constsntine or not after update

[@WarballsTurkishPlayer]

#26 44 open to migrate for everyone no cap open kingdom welcome all deadweights

[@LR3TPAL]

But I wanna run 5 infa marches

[@fauzanwijayaprismadana8007]

Martel Lc is good

[@treyyoung4571]

As I can understand , gorgo came to give life to old commanders like Cm/Constantin and maybe Richard. That’s interesting. Lilith wants you to spend more money early game

[@cyberlord645]

I like the idea alex was droping fast and Constantine was dead but now Constantine Charles and others are getting a second wind and im so for it

[@-j308]

More money spent in early game would hold more players later on. You are more likely to stick with an account if you've spent a hefty sum on it

[@treyyoung4571]

@@-j308but still there are many account buyers that bring accounts in kvk2 and make their old as a farm

[@assassinwolf7216]

I am thinking of dropping Guan Yu for Scipio as my primary focus, but it is sad since I almost have Guan maxed.

[@moretrenmoremen9148]

RIP

[@Coregame3]

should've done scipio/lc

[@assassinwolf7216]

@@Coregame3 neither one existed when I started investing in Guan Yu. They are both comparatively new.

[@Coregame3]

@@assassinwolf7216 scipio is almost 2 years old soon

[@assassinwolf7216]

@Coregame3 oh wow you are right, may school+covid have just made time no longer have meaning 😅😅

[@ophircs1792]

1st viewer

[@francisasselin9312]

i got better result scipi/taric then guan/scipio

[@Bruhnwhat]

:)

[@ryanbollo1211]

Was Alex even mentioned in this video? 😭 RIP

[@madpanda6862]

top 5 mix marches next vid

[@Chisgule]

Already made that vid a couple weeks ago : )

[@sparkdrive2900]

22k is the peak. Wont go up anymore its been years

[@krullux2042]

Plaeas keep telling people to use Gorgo in the field. It equals free kills for me. Love killing that snail march. Speed is life. Gorgo is just way way way too slow. LC is already no speed wagon at only 15% (low for inf). That march will always find itself alone in field fighting and get swarmed down

[@Chisgule]

You got it broski! I'm trading crazy positive with gorgo. Doesn't matter if she's slow when her normal attack is so high that most people will lose the trade anyways on counters.

[@Whales2978]

I would pick Leo over sargun

[@Chisgule]

Yikes, that’s how you know Sargon is controversial lol.

[@Whales2978]

@@Chisgule I just never do any good with him. Iv started using CJ and Leo again 😂

[@Pacenoob]

No one try phyros?

[@md-le4nh]

You need to make a video of these marches WITHOUT REUSING the same commanders bro…

[@christophercabrera9758]

First comment

[@joshsallieoasis]

10th comment

[@NayaWrap]

Gorgo is a bad investment

[@Chisgule]

No

[@Einherjar283]

Your videos are always confusing... you forgot most f2p players will not have these commanders. So they wont hav gorgo and tariq....just do realistic pairs not dream pair who nobody can get.

[@Trombonewaffle]

Can still get scipio/ lui/guan

[@Mandalorian-wc3dg]

Also you don’t need to max them and I’m only going for 1 or 2 inf marches, my goal is to do like 5511 for a few of those commanders

[@NguyenGruppen]

please no trajan. you always trajan. new commander, pair with trajan. Never win kvk with trajan

[@mig_beats]

I am in kvk 1.... who the hell have this commanders?