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@MartialArtsJourney
@MartialArtsJourney 2 жыл бұрын
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@andersonalves1254
@andersonalves1254 2 жыл бұрын
Sanda?
@user-pd9ju5dk5s
@user-pd9ju5dk5s 2 жыл бұрын
Lethwei is pronounces leh-way
@JP-gg8nv
@JP-gg8nv 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool video! From someone who has capacity to analyze of human conditioning (How much damage trained human body can actually absorb and still keep going) giving out the opinion... Awesome! Chan is a beast! He should be recongnized of his mentallity and analazyation. Chan would make an awesome fighting coach in his old years!
@user-pd9ju5dk5s
@user-pd9ju5dk5s 2 жыл бұрын
@sultan whomever super to fun
@mariomirquis9393
@mariomirquis9393 2 жыл бұрын
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@glady9784
@glady9784 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if Aikido is C tier when it comes to street fighting, I already lost hope to the rest of the tier list
@showmeyourjitss
@showmeyourjitss 2 жыл бұрын
aikido sucks lmao
@PerunaMuayThai
@PerunaMuayThai 2 жыл бұрын
As Icy Mike said, training something is still better than training nothing. A drunk goofus like Jeff postulated would be able to resist a throw as well as your uke.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 2 жыл бұрын
He’s being too generous?
@Six-bw3ir
@Six-bw3ir 2 жыл бұрын
@@wattlebough I think he is
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 2 жыл бұрын
@@Six-bw3ir With Aikido I agree. He’s being too generous.
@sirgallant5000
@sirgallant5000 2 жыл бұрын
As an ex security guard with 10+ years of experience I have to say he's spot on when he says pretty much all martial arts are good enough for the street. People have no idea what they're doing. I would go as far as saying that playing something like tennis regularly will make you the winner in most street fights just because you'll be quicker on your feet, more aware of your body balance and have quicker reaction time. I have trained in many different martial arts (moved around a lot, so just went to the nearest club of whatever) and personally I would rank Judo the highest for self defence situations. It just makes you extremely stable on your feet, while at the same time it's very easy for you to make the attacker fall down. It deescalates the situation, because you can kinda just gently trip them without hurting them when they come at you and after the third time they fall down on their ass and have to awkwardly scramble back up they start feeling really stupid and just want to get away from the embarrassment.
@sirgallant5000
@sirgallant5000 2 жыл бұрын
That being said I once did just that and walked away and 10 minutes later I just suddenly saw light and darkness. The little bastard sneaked up on me, punched me in the face from behind and ran away. Gave me a black eye, so I guess he got his revenge lol. So yeah, being aware of your surroundings is key, maybe more important than anything else.
@BPchadlite
@BPchadlite 2 жыл бұрын
I just pull guard, berimbolo and then wet willy for self defense situations. It deescalates the situation because you can kinda just gently moisten them without hurting them.
@sirgallant5000
@sirgallant5000 2 жыл бұрын
@@BPchadlite Haha, very effective :) Seriously though, appearances are VERY important in a street fight. Maybe I'm more focused on that because my experience is mostly in security around crowds of drunken people + wearing a uniform you can easily look like the bad guy to the onlookers and it can create a real mess and chaos. A fistfifght looks like two guys fighting, same with wrestling. But when you trip them they have to stand up and "restart" the aggression, it's very apparent. Often even their friends will see it's their buddy that is acting up and will try to calm him down.
@smokingrodballs2735
@smokingrodballs2735 2 жыл бұрын
100 agree%, judo is like striking of the grappling arts, u can use it against many attackers at once, just like punching or kicking, u can end the find in one throw, especially if they can't break fall. Just make sure u have a good reason to use this as I've seen many people have their heads smashed on the concrete after a throw. But definitely more effective than BJJ for a fast finish of a fight. Also works really well with your striking as all judo throws start from standing. U also don't need a gi for most throws, but as a bouncer u can grab clothes snd jackets and use that as if its a gi
@user1_1_1
@user1_1_1 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is playing tennis would make you a better fighter than practicing aikido
@j.puneethkumar3000
@j.puneethkumar3000 10 ай бұрын
19:44 his respect towards Mike Tyson🔥
@teryngreen1655
@teryngreen1655 2 жыл бұрын
When Jeff explains his knowledge about a martial art, it's on point. But when he gives the grade, it just leaves me with a question mark. It's like you've got to change the grading system based on what he says because he's too polite to give any martial art less than a C grade. Jeff is definitely the type of teacher that would grade on a curve.
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
LOLL sorry I'm too Canadian
@DarkDoughnutsVids
@DarkDoughnutsVids 2 жыл бұрын
This's a pretty good observation. I've seen a few comments shitting on Jeff for putting certain martial arts in "C", but if we actually took the time to listen to what he says, it becomes obvious that it's just a polite version of giving them an F tier
@MMAShredded
@MMAShredded 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkDoughnutsVids 😂😂
@jaroslavhavel7494
@jaroslavhavel7494 2 жыл бұрын
My father is policeman and he uses aikido all the time and it didn't failed single time. Granted no fighter gonna fight you. But it worked on drunks, "Streetfighters", and criminals. But we don't train aikido what Roka trained. Our dojo is more modern and we have some bjj in it and striking so we are able to use technique. Without striking "atemi" its impossible to use aikido at all in my opinion so most aikido schools we call them dancers.
@tsetsoangelov6455
@tsetsoangelov6455 2 жыл бұрын
@@MMAShredded LOL :d
@kbkb2219
@kbkb2219 Жыл бұрын
As a black belt in Aikido, I would give it a D rating for real fighting.
@Glowtrey
@Glowtrey Жыл бұрын
I did yoseikan budo : a mixed martial art of karate, japanese jiu jitsu and also aikido. The aikido we did was basically the same locks and grapple we praticed in jiu jitsu but with different ways to send them. I found that, coupled with praticing new ways to counter those attacks, it really helped my footing and creativity. Which is always nice.
@mehmethicgulmez6832
@mehmethicgulmez6832 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever get beaten in street 😅
@anishdas7432
@anishdas7432 Жыл бұрын
did you do kyokushin@@Glowtrey
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 Жыл бұрын
They also forgot the GOAT of technique in a street fight : *running* ! ☺ When sh*t hits the fan, run hard, run long, run fast.
@anishdas7432
@anishdas7432 Жыл бұрын
i agree running is the greatest martial artist @@goofygrandlouis6296
@ericberman_
@ericberman_ 2 ай бұрын
He ranks boxing as S-tier “assuming the fighter knows basic BJJ.” By that logic, BJJ should be S-tier assuming the fighter knows basic striking.
@superwaffle9312
@superwaffle9312 11 күн бұрын
yeah, also he ranked Judo as A- which isn`t bad but he specifically says he only uses 3 throws, i`d have put it at S, i don`t train it but my father was a Judo champion in Venezuela as he trained it he got into university because of it and sometimes he would get home bleeding for getting into fights, one time when i was 4 i was with him at a stand of electronics he repaired and 3 guys started trying to rip him off and get out without paying, he grabbed the nearest one and slammed him against the dest and he fell to the floor completely bloodied and the other two came at him and he again grabbed the nearest one and threw him against the other guy, the police came and questioned him. he put me on his judo gym at 8 but he got scared and thought i would die from just doing a few push ups so i was out after a month 😭
@VoidHxnter
@VoidHxnter Жыл бұрын
My Jiu Jitsu instructor loves teaching Judo takedowns. The things work like bread and butter and can transition perfectly into many of the basic moves.
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 10 ай бұрын
That’s because bjj is judo! Judo for girls
@marciafemista
@marciafemista 10 ай бұрын
@@djharto4917 HAHA try to go agains't a bjj fighter, you'd be out of breath in a minute
@artyomarty391
@artyomarty391 10 ай бұрын
nobody gonna believe me, but when I was 6 or something in Russia I did judo/sambo for like a year and then stopped. I probably had around a hundred street fights from age 7-16 including in USA when I moved. I lost maybe 1-2 fights and even then I wouldnt call them "lost". Everyone underestimated me. No fight lasted more than like a minute and all ended up in the first like 20 seconds with me doing some kind of throw and then me getting on top I wasnt big, but very strong and athletic so that helped too (could do 25 pull ups at age 10). When I moved to US, the strongest black kid in 4th grade picked on me, I told him lets go fight after school. Dude dropped in 2 seconds. He thought it was going to be a fist exchange, and got really scared when he ended up being controlled by me. The thing with wrestling, is it sends a big fear into your mind when someone else is controlling your body As an adult I have no idea how effective Judo is. fighting at my age (36) is much more risky. People use weapons, friends, I could get charged, etc. You also gotta be extremely fit and Im not anymore
@djharto4917
@djharto4917 10 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t post so much trash on line. You need to talk to someone
@marciafemista
@marciafemista 10 ай бұрын
@@djharto4917 you got cheated on?
@Neldot
@Neldot Жыл бұрын
11:00 He nails perfectly why karate is so amazing. People often fail to understand that the training movements you see in karate practice (kihon and kata) are not exactly the real fight, they're just schemes you repeat to train your body and prepare it to react quickly, but the real fight in karate is all about distance and timely reactions. This is why you see karate fighters land kicks and blows so precisely.
@thunderkatz4219
@thunderkatz4219 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I do Okinawan kenpo btw
@USA_UNITED1776
@USA_UNITED1776 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the thing is in most karate classes they only teach kata, rendering it useless.
@Dariet88
@Dariet88 Жыл бұрын
He needs to see kyokushin/ashihara/enshin conditioning
@fadingship935
@fadingship935 Жыл бұрын
kata is completely useless for fights. It looks aesthetic tho.
@kaen4299
@kaen4299 Жыл бұрын
Which Karate though? Kyokushin Karateka don't move like that when they fight.
@LucasIsHereYT
@LucasIsHereYT Жыл бұрын
As someone with a brother who wrestled in high school, the discipline is insane. He subsided off of water, pomegranates, granola bars, and maybe the odd cookie here or there for a quarter of a year so he could be two weight classes lower than where he was before. He was so close to not making weight that he needed to run miles every morning in order to lose enough water weight so he could compete. Over a year and a half after he placed 5th at state, his face is still bony from the ridiculous weight cut he had to go through. I asked everyone on the team what they thought about wrestling and they said these two things, "It sucks," and, "It's a way of life."
@AQBPlays
@AQBPlays Жыл бұрын
A weight bully then
@karlmanning2603
@karlmanning2603 Жыл бұрын
As someone who did wrestling for 8 years, the sport is cruel because you could train your butt off all week and cut the necessary weight to get into the desired weight class….. but all that effort could be over in a matter of seconds as you get pinned by a much better opponent. Then all of that time and energy just doesn’t feel worth the trouble. But when you’re victorious, and you get that medal in a tournament….. it feels SO much sweeter. Wrestling is certainly not for the faint of heart. Yet somehow, I’m still glad I did it.
@GabrielNavarro-bo7st
@GabrielNavarro-bo7st Жыл бұрын
Sumo wrestling is fun to watch.
@blaynegreiner9365
@blaynegreiner9365 Жыл бұрын
I didn't continue to compete in college but was quite successful in high school, competing at both regional and state. I can say that not everyone aggressively cuts weight and lives that kind of a lifestyle, even at the highest level of the sport. As the other commenter said, those are weight bullies that are potentially taking years off their life for no reason other than to gain an edge over people who compete at their natural weight class. Unless you are doing it professionally, it just isn't worth it. Even then, if you aren't a top 10 fighter, you probably aren't making enough money for it to be worth it.
@blaynegreiner9365
@blaynegreiner9365 Жыл бұрын
@apachehelicopter7625 It doesn't help "performance" per se but it can give an advantage as you will usually be a lot bigger than someone who is naturally in that weight class.
@MrPerlew
@MrPerlew 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who did Tekwondo for 9 years I can firmly say that Tekwondo is fun, flashy and explosive, and same as for most other martial arts you could easily take someone untrained. Though as hard it is to say, I think that Tekwondo is something you supliment your fighting style with, rather than base your style of in a mma type sitch. You see a lot of olympic level Tekwondo fighters be both medalists in Tekwondo and kickboxing, since it flows into one another very well. Thing about using Tekwondo in mma is that its something you use when you've already set up a good opening for it, but it isn't great at creating those openings by itself.
@gronizherz3603
@gronizherz3603 Жыл бұрын
Agreed - when I did taekwondo a lot of the more advanced people I went with (especially 1 black belt who also had a black belt in jiujutsu!) would spend a lot of their free time outside of training suplimenting their fighting style with more focus on grappling, boxing, wrestling, et.c.
@enclavesoldier1778
@enclavesoldier1778 Жыл бұрын
Tiekwondo is ketchup
@galleskovar5323
@galleskovar5323 Жыл бұрын
God bless you with Faith and his Holy Ghost through Jesus Christ almighty!
@whyez3280
@whyez3280 Жыл бұрын
taekwando is flashy more than effective
@B2ClippedIt
@B2ClippedIt Жыл бұрын
he is basing it on if you have any bjj and striking knowledge already you clown
@Caydenology
@Caydenology 7 ай бұрын
As a taekwondo black belt ive actually realized there are a lot of head blocks in taekwondo forms they just don’t use them in sparing
@da1onlynickvicious
@da1onlynickvicious 2 жыл бұрын
Homey is giving waaaay too much credit to aikido lmao I don’t think he’s taking pressure testing into account at all
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like he’s assuming it’s an actual fighter from each art rather than considering the typical training methods of a given art
@temp--1054
@temp--1054 2 жыл бұрын
Fr bro just like judo like bro sambo > bjj > judo imo
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe. :3
@elhackerrobloxiano4662
@elhackerrobloxiano4662 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked hahahaha
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the mindset of Jeff Chan in this video. Most arts are going to give you skills that work against the untrained in a short period of time. After that, you're min/maxing for the sport. An example would be a boxer learning to punch in such a way that they won't be counter punched. If your opponent is going to wait for your combo to stop instead of counter punching to interrupt your combo, then it doesn't really matter that you know the head movement and proper handwork to keep your head protected while you're punching.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but, Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.
@xavierharris7123
@xavierharris7123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked got any evidence?
@lordmoncef5494
@lordmoncef5494 2 жыл бұрын
Except aikido
@belue2429
@belue2429 7 ай бұрын
I’ve seen probably less than 5 combos, not just hands flying, out of thousands of street fight videos. I’m confused on your statement
@belue2429
@belue2429 7 ай бұрын
Boxing is hands down, the best for the street. Although I’ve seen my fair share of Karate, Muay Thai , jiu-jitsu, and wrestling be effective in the street all of those probably probably equal 25% combined compared to boxing in an actual street fight. Boxing is the king of the streets, but knowing a little bit of wrestling with your boxing would always be the best.
@clorofemully
@clorofemully Жыл бұрын
Great interview. The interviewee shares his knowledge so clearly, and the interviewer asked perfect follow up questions. Thanks guys!
@johnh8546
@johnh8546 2 жыл бұрын
This goes with what I've heard my entire life that if you can box and you can wrestle you can fight. Which MMA has shown to hold very true.
@hunger4wonder
@hunger4wonder Жыл бұрын
Precisely this. If you train a good striking form like boxing or kickboxing and you train a good takedown/grappling form like Judo or Jiujitsu, you're set. This was the revelation that MMA really brought to reality.
@12shah74
@12shah74 Жыл бұрын
​@@hunger4wonder Hi, how is the Judo/boxing combo for security/self defense?
@hunger4wonder
@hunger4wonder Жыл бұрын
@@12shah74 I think that's solid. If you're doing security, you can use the boxing/judo as your foundation but do some training with other styles sporadically to incorporate some of those elements and complement your foundation. For example Muay Thai or kickboxing to complement your boxing, and some wrestling, Jiujitsu etc. But, let's say, you only have boxing and judo available near you, i would say it's effective.
@RJ-gk4rt
@RJ-gk4rt Жыл бұрын
Boxing and wrestling is all you need. HANDS AND SPRAWLS. BJJ is useless vs a wrestler with hands. Wrestlers with hands DOMINATE mma
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 2 ай бұрын
Yep. It’s the best base there is. A boxer who can’t wrestle is stuck if he can’t knock the guy out before the wrestler gets to him. When the wrestler gets his hands on him, he’s going down and he’s never getting up. If a wrestler can’t box, he can’t defend himself against punches. If you can do both. Even better if you can kick.
@TheHeirdryer
@TheHeirdryer 2 жыл бұрын
I love and teach Karate, but have trained in Boxing and Judo for countless years. The question I get often from new students, is what style do you recommend to be best for effectiveness etc, I always say from my experience in my field is:-1st Avoid conflict ,2nd Boxing, 3rd Judo, then Karate, but it really depends on the person's attitude to training and the club's teaching methods etc, but most importantly is to find a style, you enjoy the most!!!
@alexlilano1931
@alexlilano1931 5 ай бұрын
I've watch MMA for a very long time. Since Fedor era. I'll rank Karate above boxing in MMA. Pure boxing doesnt work in MMA. High level Karate guys do way better than high level boxers. For Karate, GSP and Chuck Liddell were generational p4p top Karate fighters. Lyoto was champion. Wonder boy was the top ten of his time in UFC. Conner McGregor was double champ. His striking coach was a Karate master. Only when Conner actually converted to a more boxing style he started losing. Same thing with Mike Tyson abandoning the Peekaboo style in boxing. For boxing, James Tony got taken down and submitted in seconds, Carissa Sheilds is fighting women with losing records and lose to a woman with an even record. Carissa Sheilds is a double undisputed champ and that is terrible performance on who she suppose to do as one of the best boxers in the world. For MMA, Karate is no doubt better than boxing. Karate gets way too much hate in general when there literally generational Karate fighters and even one of the GOATs is a karate fighter. Karate is also evolving and getting better. Boxing evolved and Karate can too. You know Boxing is acutally older than Karate. Japan wanted to create a sytle that can compete with boxing. Crazy, but true. Karate is more modern than boxing. Boxing is more traditional than Karate. I have to say there are McDojo out there in Karate, but BJJ and MMA have McDojo too now. I dont know effective Karate or boxing is in a street fight since I dont see a lot of street fights, but both styles will probably destory most people.
@JuniorTech-q1k
@JuniorTech-q1k 2 ай бұрын
Natalia silva will be the next champion of the ufc and has the taekwondo as her base
@denzel7822
@denzel7822 Ай бұрын
💯 agree
@aasports8924
@aasports8924 Жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone spit it out. Even in MMA, you have to be good at your boxing skills because it is the most effective when it comes to striking while having a composed stance
@Belnick6666
@Belnick6666 6 ай бұрын
muay thai is better than pure boxing imho as they also train some take down defense....ofc then there are the kicks, knees and elbows as well, hehe
@pinkyogurt6359
@pinkyogurt6359 6 ай бұрын
​@@Belnick6666muy Thai is far superior. Boxers don't know how to throw or take a kick. They believe closing the gap is gonna help them until they get laid on their butt by a teep.
@majorsynthqed7374
@majorsynthqed7374 6 ай бұрын
@@pinkyogurt6359 Depends on where that kick is thrown. Boxers can take a lot of damage above and even below the waist with all the leg work they do. Boxers have incredible core strength. Boxers know positioning--in fact, boxing is really the sport of positioning. Get where you have to be and strike. And no one can dish out punishment like a heavyweight boxer. There have been a number of fights between boxers and Muay Thai fighters. If the boxer can stay close consistently and not allow the kicks or can eat some of the damage, the muay thai fighter has a very difficult time and can get battered badly. If the boxer can't stay close, he almost always loses to the barrage of kicks and elbows. Good Muay Thai fighters are smart enough to not close in with a boxer. No one wants to get up close with a Mike Tyson-type.
@pinkyogurt6359
@pinkyogurt6359 6 ай бұрын
@majorsynthqed7374 It all boils down to kindergarten math. 4 limbs is better than 2. If a muy thai fighter loses to a boxer it simply means that the boxer has a higher skill level that is enough to overcome the limb disadvantage. But two fighters of equal skill there is zero reason why the boxer should win. They don't regularly get hit in the legs and I'm sorry footwork is completely different than tanking a bone shattering leg kick and too keep going. The first time I took a simple leg kick I felt my leg had been blown off. Wasn't sure if it still worked after that.
@majorsynthqed7374
@majorsynthqed7374 6 ай бұрын
@@pinkyogurt6359 It's not math, it's the fighter. I've seen good boxers defeat muay thai, and I've seen it the other way as well. Boxers have the best upper body striking power of any fighting art I've seen or practiced. Sometimes that is good enough to overcome, and sometimes not. To make a blanket statement that there is zero reason that two equally skilled boxer and muay thai fighters should always result in a muay thai win is ridiculous.
@tha1ne
@tha1ne 2 жыл бұрын
dam.. jeff musta woke up thinking 'today I choose generosity'
@sebastijank98
@sebastijank98 2 жыл бұрын
I’m suprised Rokas didn’t discuss or react to placing Aikido so high
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesusiskingofkingss actually the other way around, he hated it real hard for like a year, he's only recently come back to seeing its value
@scottwheldon9992
@scottwheldon9992 Жыл бұрын
I really respect Jeff's take on TKD. As a TKD practitioner I completely agree with his take. The point system in sparring really rewards the go for broke with some form of spin kick all the time which often leads the head exposed. More conservative approaches tend to score less points and the head gear protects pretty well so people typically don't focus on head defense with hands as much as footwork.
@DJ-st4rs
@DJ-st4rs 11 ай бұрын
Which TKD are you talking about? There are 2 styles - Im guessing just based on your comment that you are talking about WTF Olympic style TKD - in ITF Taekwondo which this is used in the army - what is it with Americans & not knowing there are 2 styles of Taekwondo? ITF taekwondo uses elbows, knees, even headbutts we have trained, shoulder strikes - When you say TKD mention which one ITF or WTF - The differences in styles is light and day
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
I like how fair he's being, point about capoeira, a lot of capoeira academy's are also involved in bjj as well, the local one around me is run by a BJJ brown belt. I've sparred with him and it's terrifying. Many use it as an add on to their BJJ as well as a way of creating muscle memory/movement unlocking for fighting not the main art.
@jacksonmuaythai
@jacksonmuaythai 2 жыл бұрын
Also a beautiful way to experience Brazilian culture!
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonmuaythai So true, done a couple of seminars, the guy who I was talking about I've seen him land sakuraba style cartwheel guard passes in purple/brown belt level competition.
@zerragut2969
@zerragut2969 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewisb85 I see all styles of capoeira as signature styles like how I could throw a sakuraba during a fight the way saenchai throws his cartwheel kicks
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but... Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.
@lancemoraes853
@lancemoraes853 2 жыл бұрын
Colby Covington coach is coapeira teacher
@arcbueno1
@arcbueno1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Jeff is being so humble when admits that he changes his opinion about some arts (like my favorite one karate) and when he says that he don't know the art to comment about, some youtubers will say "IT'S NOT WORK" in the first moment. Being like Jeff make we more able to learn, adapt and use other arts.
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.
@tyrikmoore2903
@tyrikmoore2903 2 жыл бұрын
Karate definitely works. Really every art works when you use what’s useful and train it
@r.r.4563
@r.r.4563 9 ай бұрын
Karate and Kenpo are the most misunderstood martial arts IMO. The trouble is there’s a lot of hacks and mcdojo scammers who make it look bad. On top of that, even when you find a proper place people see the movements and sets people do and think it looks ridiculous. In reality these mcdojo cucks are not real karate and only teach in child dojos typically, and those exercises are not how you’re supposed to fight in acc sparring. It’s only done to get the body to understand the mechanics of moves and distance and get it down to a science. Once your reaction time is high and you understand the mechanics behind momentum, and condition as much as possible, karate makes guys who hit HARD, some of the hardest hands in MMA and they react fast as hell. And they’re ability to gauge distance is precise. And you can apply those mechanics to any other striking. Karate boxing or even karate Muay Thai will hurt even more.
@krishnakamble9698
@krishnakamble9698 Жыл бұрын
I was a boxer for quite some time. I have recently switched to Wing Chun and have stuck with it for the amount of competence it helps someone develop. I have learnt is for just four and a half months and feel street safe if not combat ready.
@iROChakri
@iROChakri 2 жыл бұрын
Muay thai ... best striking Wrestling ... best take down BJJ ... best submission = MMA today These three styles are just all you need 💀
@jordannorris2406
@jordannorris2406 Жыл бұрын
And basic boxing
@mttstff
@mttstff Жыл бұрын
And for only $300 a month! lmfao.
@user-qj4vg6ik6n
@user-qj4vg6ik6n Жыл бұрын
​@@steviebob3119I love Muay Thai and think it is definitely one of the best striking bases for MMA, but the stance and footwork don't translate particularly well. If you are a grappler learning to strike, you might be better off learning boxing.
@user-qj4vg6ik6n
@user-qj4vg6ik6n Жыл бұрын
Plus it depends on where you are, but in the us I think it is a lot easier to find a good boxing gym.
@mttstff
@mttstff Жыл бұрын
@@user-qj4vg6ik6n I'd have to agree with that. I like in one of the largest cities in the US and still struggle to find muay Thai gyms. Regardless though, boxing or Muay Thai, shit's expensive monthly lol.
@drakeplankers4940
@drakeplankers4940 2 жыл бұрын
Mannn everyone I hear on here says JJJ doesn’t spar but we do in our gym every day. Also I guess there is a difference between modern Japanese Jiu jitsu and traditional. I practice modern Jjj. I’m gonna make a KZbin channel so JJJ gets the love it deserves
@Shaddycls
@Shaddycls 2 жыл бұрын
BJJ comes from Judo not Traditional, which is where Judo comes from instead.
@cn4s490
@cn4s490 Жыл бұрын
​@@Shaddycls judo, bjj, aikido, sambo are all martial arts origin from the martial art of jūjutsu. not judo.
@Shaddycls
@Shaddycls Жыл бұрын
@@cn4s490 BJJ comes from Judo, Judo comes from traditional Jiujitsu. Gracie was expanding Judo over Brazil showing that was more effective than striking martial arts, and the guy taught Gracie kids who developed BJJ.
@cn4s490
@cn4s490 Жыл бұрын
​@@Shaddycls there is no difference .they all come from traditional Jiujitsu.
@Shaddycls
@Shaddycls Жыл бұрын
@@cn4s490 well, there is. Because it is not a traditional jiujitsu variant but Judo. Regardless of if everything comes from the same root, otherwise then it comes as well from pankration, so then everything is just modified pankration :)
@whywhy3289
@whywhy3289 Жыл бұрын
Wing chin is especially good for security work. You’re already likely to be in close proximity and have quite skill gap, and trapping the hands is an effective way to end the fight without escalating it further.
@V555Vendetta
@V555Vendetta 2 жыл бұрын
Karate background MMA guy here: I appreciate this guy's praise of karate and I love how much more praise traditional arts are getting nowadays as it's making a comeback due to the machidas and wonderboys out there so I'll give it a go and explain the in and out movement we use a lot: It's like fencing. Karate guys treat a fight like it's a sword battle, and that your hands and feet are like sword, you wanna hit in the most aggressive, spurratic, single strike the most accurately you can without getting hit without the other swordsman's sword. It's often compared to very old Irish boxing, which was very similar in concept to this style of movement as they fought bare knuckle and thus are more careful with strikes and striking. The "hands down" stance is to allow for mobility and a steeper stance. As he points out it sucks in a bar fight but in an open parking lot it's helped me once
@filth6996
@filth6996 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve also noticed that this “Karate Boxing” stance seems to be ideal for MMA some good examples would be Henry Cejudo and Patricio Pitbull. Both short guys with short reach but through the “fencing” you’re talking about manage to land good shots on bigger taller opponents. Fedor and Whittaker as well.
@zerragut2969
@zerragut2969 2 жыл бұрын
@@filth6996 I think MMA fighters use a wider stance because they aren't as exposed to leg kicks
@waefawawrgaw2835
@waefawawrgaw2835 2 жыл бұрын
karate is a joke lmao u get disqualified for KO'ing an opponent in the olympics haha
@V555Vendetta
@V555Vendetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@waefawawrgaw2835 you're talking point karate not full contact. Kyokushin is the father of kickboxing.
@V555Vendetta
@V555Vendetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@waefawawrgaw2835 and this is why full contact guys didn't want karate in the Olympics
@BernardoWLopes
@BernardoWLopes 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should've differentiated Sambo and combat Sambo! Khabib, Islam, Fedor., blagoy, nemkov, minakov, yaroslav amosov, arlovski, merab dbalishvili, all competed in Combat Sambo, besides sambo. Strikes included, basically MMA.
@ItsOfficial-IM-ChessYT
@ItsOfficial-IM-ChessYT Жыл бұрын
"It's not about the Martial Arts, it's about discipline,self-defense,and more." -Wise man
@artyomarty391
@artyomarty391 10 ай бұрын
its also a lot about your physical fitness. You can be a black belt but still get taken down by someone less trained, if this guy is just stronger and more fit
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have no idea how effective boxing is in a street fight. For me it's a combination of boxing and Roman Greco that would be the most effective arts for a street fight. Roman Greco is like nogi Judo lol.
@sergiotaz4167
@sergiotaz4167 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! For me the ideal is Boxing and BJJ.
@SilverforceX
@SilverforceX Жыл бұрын
Boxing is great in a street fight, until you meet someone who wrestles you to the ground, or kick you in the ribs beyond range of boxing. All martial arts have flaws, this is why its important to know in the street there are no rules. Unlike in the boxing ring.
@prestonjantjies
@prestonjantjies Жыл бұрын
Does boxing work against fully resistant opponents?
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
@@prestonjantjies Of course. I've seen far too many examples in real life. When it comes to punching power, speed and upper body defense no other art can touch boxing. I've seen featherweight boxers knock out much larger men in street fights.
@NainoLoL
@NainoLoL Жыл бұрын
@@SilverforceX the chances of that is low if you know boxing lol, you aren't gonna get taken down by a wrestler going for a double leg lmao, it's gonna be some goon trying to tackle you
@brettbrideau206
@brettbrideau206 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he was about to give Aikido an A-.... Downgrades to C, this still way to high. Honestly, no one is going to run at you leaning back with both of their hands fully extended. Aikido doesn't teach you under pressure, I could almost argue that it could make you a worse fighter if you have never pressure tested it in real life.
@lucaspanto9650
@lucaspanto9650 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It could give you a twisted view of real fighting, throwing you off when a fight actually happens
@sambbk7203
@sambbk7203 Жыл бұрын
Your comments section (yes i realise the irony of this statement) is wild. I think it's because fighting speaks so directly to our personal psychology and insecurities.
@littlegirlshowSynch
@littlegirlshowSynch Жыл бұрын
Boxing has always been my favorite because of how simple it is, pretty much the just the basic fundamentals of fighting. How to throw a proper punch, how to block/dodge a punch, and simple fighting stance/footwork. Obviously it's not going to work in every situation, but I always kind of figured if you just wanted to learn to how to fight without turning it into a full time hobby it would be by learning boxing.
@daebak7370
@daebak7370 Жыл бұрын
Simple but very difficult to master
@ahemahemhello
@ahemahemhello Жыл бұрын
@@daebak7370 yes
@todd2683
@todd2683 Жыл бұрын
Hello said other than Gracie bjj learn Boxing.
@shreyanshRn
@shreyanshRn Жыл бұрын
Boxing is good if you are tall bulky beast with so much strength
@George-ew3gm
@George-ew3gm 11 ай бұрын
@@shreyanshRn it is useless in case an opponent has knife or a gun
@andycampbell85
@andycampbell85 2 жыл бұрын
Not 💯 sure about some of Jeff's grades here but his knowledge of Martial arts shines through! Love these types of videos where you go into the merits of each style. 🔥
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked
@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... Aikido and TAI CHI are the very best for self-defense! Anyone telling otherwise is just throwing a cop-out! XD Just Kittens. Hehehehe.
@wtfurlookingat1514
@wtfurlookingat1514 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonahpostsstuff1301 it was a joke
@BenFroidevaux
@BenFroidevaux 8 ай бұрын
Hi Jeff, As usual you are pretty much right ON when being put on the spot with very difficult questions, and yet always answering with your respectful and professional manner that honor the validity of all martial arts.....BRAVO!
@jacksonmuaythai
@jacksonmuaythai 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I can stop rewatching the other videos you did with Mike and Ramsay EDIT: wow, super disagree with the majority of the rankings. No hate to Jeff, he is much more knowledgeable than me, but I whole heartedly disagree that Muay Thai is better than Sambo for the street OR the ring
@alexanderzhulin3528
@alexanderzhulin3528 2 жыл бұрын
There are two rulesets of sambo - sport and combat. While sport variant is basically a judo combat sambo is like MMA with limited time on the ground, which is amazing for street. In combat sambo you have to submit in 5 seconds or get back on your feet and start over.
@vincedgarvlogs
@vincedgarvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he made a mistake on Combat Sambo. If there is an S tier it should be Combat Sambo alone, and all are A tier below. Combat Sambo is the only pure art who can beat all martial arts.
@DJSerpent
@DJSerpent Жыл бұрын
Combat Sambo look at Khabib, it's so damn effective.
@pedroguerrero3862
@pedroguerrero3862 Жыл бұрын
While combat samba is very similar to mma, it rules actually allows you to do things that would be illegal in mma, specifically head butts and groin strikes. you are allowed to headbutt standing or on the ground but you need 3 point of contact with the ground to do that. Also you are allow to strike the groin, but only in the clinch with knee strikes
@Sensei_Frog
@Sensei_Frog Жыл бұрын
3 I think, combat sambo is a lot more sport based now, so I thing there’s something called applied sambo which is more t for the military
@martinquo9177
@martinquo9177 2 ай бұрын
I've been doing Krav Maga for ten years. The main downside is extremely slow progress, because you do a bit of everything. I would not recommend it for people with no experience in fighting, however these are the people who usually go for Krav Maga, looking for an easy way? Nevertheless any experienced fighter who goes then to train KM would boost their survivability in street fight massively. Simply because it's a fkn street fight. That means multiple attackers, bats and sticks and knives getting deployed when your on the ground wrestling. It's more about making good tactical choices.
@SGhosht
@SGhosht Жыл бұрын
Just started Muay Thai training , never been more sore 🤣 this is gonna be an interesting ride
@Shojushoju
@Shojushoju 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video!!! Jeff Chan is so respectful of the various martial arts - he doesn’t want to trash any of them with a low grade. I love these ranking videos overall.
@Jenjak
@Jenjak 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of capoeira I did witness someone having no clue of what the capoeirista was doing and dived into a meia lua de compaso, and got smashed. So if you have the malice and are able to set people up into your strikes, capoeira can be deadly. Generally, you only need to connect once.
@Jaburu
@Jaburu 2 жыл бұрын
that was kind of what he said
@DJEmirSantana
@DJEmirSantana 2 жыл бұрын
Actually that is the ultimate in the art of fighting without fighting LOL escape, they're not catching you at that point, once you get an exit no one will catch you LOL
@felipe.lizama.archviz
@felipe.lizama.archviz Жыл бұрын
With media lua de compaso you hit with your body weight plus the inertia of the spin, so It is a very dangerous kick
@Menino-X-Z
@Menino-X-Z 8 ай бұрын
The problem is that they think we will fight as if we were in a capoeira circle
@Jenjak
@Jenjak 8 ай бұрын
@@Menino-X-Z My copoeira teacher grew up in the favela, he has nasty knife scars on his arms, he knows what a real fight is...But yeah guys who never faced violence can be delusional I guess.
@christianlong5730
@christianlong5730 5 күн бұрын
Honestly this is some of the first *valuable* insight. I don’t necessarily agree across the board but I actually understand the different perspectives.
@amarug
@amarug Жыл бұрын
I love Karate - and as a mechanical engineer and long-time Karate practitioner, I feel like a lot of the moves are optimized mechanically for getting the most impact for a punch or kick that your body can dish out. But as he said, distance management is key, because that is a prerequisite to maximizing the peak forces your body can generate (like the basic punch called 'oi-zuki' essentially comes out of your whole body, esp also from your legs via grip on the floor. when trained well, even a person with relatively low, muscular strength will be able to throw a quite fierce punch. Historically the idea of Karate was also a bit to essentially knockout/kill the opponent in one blow rather than making a whole fight out of it. with that, it may look less spectacular than some other martial arts, but it's amazing at channeling huge forces quickly). So in a narrow area, it would surely be less effective than many other martial arts...
@iminsideyourwalls9432
@iminsideyourwalls9432 Жыл бұрын
As a civil engineer i prefer muay thai,and it hasn't anything to do with my profession
@jordannorris2406
@jordannorris2406 Жыл бұрын
@@iminsideyourwalls9432 as CFO I prefer boxing and it has everything to do with my profession 😂
@bernardoj54
@bernardoj54 Жыл бұрын
As far as Karate, only Kyokushin works, period.
@amarug
@amarug Жыл бұрын
@@bernardoj54 Passing general judgment by what category of Karate "works" or "doesn't work" seems kinda simple to me. In average, Kyokushin-style labelled Dojos certainly weigh heavily on the fighting aspect, but in my experience, it seems much more dependent on the individual Dojo, rather than just the style. By far the most gut-wrenchingly violent Dojo I have ever visited, was one in Switzerland committed to the Shotokan style. Damn, those guys there had no limits, from kicks to the head till faint, daily blood, you name it, it was there. It's really more "who" than "what name do you give your exact style". at the end of the day
@chumimiii
@chumimiii Жыл бұрын
​@@s3vashlil bro, what the FUCK do u know abt fighting? First of all its far from overrated, its absolutely underrated bc ppl shit on it without knowing anything. The kata and school technique is only used for class and has certain benefits if done correctly. If we are talking the actual karate, made for fighting, i am willing to bet it would put your ass to sleep in seconds, it has very straightforward and effective punches/kicks and is the actual basis of most Martial arts today. It also depends on the style and place u learn it, iv seen some absolutely dogshit boxing places but iv never said its bad. I train in a preaty damn good club and we have separate fighting classes where we are absolutely exsausted from how hard and draining it is
@tiagosaraiva102
@tiagosaraiva102 2 жыл бұрын
Was a Karate practioner its actually refreshing seeing Karate getting a high grade, Karate was also prove itself in MMA and with new Karate Combat league it was show just how effective Karate striking can be while also having some notion of takedows, defending takedows and ground and pound i also think Karate is evolving alot especially beacuse of MMA and because with MMA being the proving grounds for martial arts the ones that dont evolve or refuse to open new horizons will die out, this was been happening all the way back to feudal Japan, i think nowadays there is no reason to learn from other styles and getting out of your confort zone in martial arts, in regards to street fighting i think most martial arts will work.
@kevo192000
@kevo192000 2 жыл бұрын
Karate is suck
@fazares
@fazares 2 жыл бұрын
mma is the proving ground for effective martial arts in ring fighting...as u said, most if not every ma will work in a street fight...
@eduardocoutochueri9920
@eduardocoutochueri9920 2 жыл бұрын
Lyoto Machida
@eduardocoutochueri9920
@eduardocoutochueri9920 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevo192000 lyoto Machida dont aprove
@redrumrabbit
@redrumrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
@@eduardocoutochueri9920 Lyoto wouldn't approve of his grammar either.
@frostyhcr2680
@frostyhcr2680 Жыл бұрын
AMAZINGLY DONE!!! i try to skip to next bit i cant i will miss smt u will get high places with how u have it
@ScoobySmokez_.
@ScoobySmokez_. Жыл бұрын
ninjutsu is S+ because you can start spining like a fucking blender (lego ninjago referance)
@samuelrodriguezarevalo3736
@samuelrodriguezarevalo3736 4 ай бұрын
That's Spinjitzu, ur dumb bro 🗣️🔥
@vonb2792
@vonb2792 2 жыл бұрын
I love Jeff, he helps me getting back into grappling (his sambo, judo, wrestling) when doing MMA & muaythai sparring
@ChpAbe-051
@ChpAbe-051 12 күн бұрын
6:52 They always assume that a wrestler has "basic boxing skills" but never that a bjj or judoka has it. This is annoying.
@NoOne-ex4sx
@NoOne-ex4sx 8 күн бұрын
Agreed.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 2 жыл бұрын
My rule of thumb regarding the best martial arts for self-defence is it has to be effective fighting in a public toilet cubicle/ restroom stall and on a moving bus. These are the kinds of places you can expect to be attacked. If it can’t be used in these kind of confined spaces it’s of limited use in self-defence. That’s my take.
@AlligatorAli
@AlligatorAli 2 жыл бұрын
Elbows from muay thai, maybe even knee and grappling from bjj
@someonethatisachristian
@someonethatisachristian 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlligatorAli you want to avoid going down on the ground if you end up in trouble on the street, other than that, you describe krav maga. Knees and elbows are simple to learn even for untrained people and is used in krav maga, along with simple judo throws (which ive seen) and a few other things. im looking at krav maga since im a middle aged guy, i have done other martial arts.
@dmfaccount1272
@dmfaccount1272 2 жыл бұрын
@@someonethatisachristian what you want to avoid doesn't really matter. What happens, happens.
@AlligatorAli
@AlligatorAli 2 жыл бұрын
@@someonethatisachristian rear naked choke (standing) Arm twists. There must be other standing grappling moves well.
@someonethatisachristian
@someonethatisachristian 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlligatorAli im not that well versed in krav maga, i havent started with it yet, i only know it from theory.
@eastafrika728
@eastafrika728 2 жыл бұрын
Judo, Boxing and Taekwondo have always worked perfectly in the streets here in Nairobi.
@Ricardo-cp2lu
@Ricardo-cp2lu 2 жыл бұрын
The first 2 maybe.
@IGlazeChiefKeef
@IGlazeChiefKeef 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ricardo-cp2lu Delusional
@Ricardo-cp2lu
@Ricardo-cp2lu 2 жыл бұрын
@@IGlazeChiefKeef Not me.
@Ricardo-cp2lu
@Ricardo-cp2lu Жыл бұрын
@@Halleyy1057 Yes, ITF taekwondo can be useful. I'm talking about the Olympic version, which is an absolute joke and I know it first hand.
@alvaroprietotorres4508
@alvaroprietotorres4508 Жыл бұрын
Thats true. Casually, I practice 3 (Judo as a child) and are great. Taekwondo Itf, the real Taekwondo 🥋💪🥊
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony Жыл бұрын
I spent a couple of years in Krav Maga and I boxed a lot more as offense than I kicked which I used more as defense, especially the side kick. In particular I developed my left jab as a counterpunch to punching and kicking. That made Krav Maga a good street fighting style for me.
@zezebombastic3953
@zezebombastic3953 Жыл бұрын
do you think it actually works in a fight?I wanna start training it
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony Жыл бұрын
@@zezebombastic3953 For me it did. But, my instructor cared more about street fighting or realistic fighting situations, and survival than anything else. I found that I was a pretty good boxer and my instructor focused on developing that. I have no doubt that if I would have ended up with an instructor that only cared about tradition or an unrealistic fighting style, it would have been a wasted experience. So, if you peruse Krav Maga, make sure that the instructor focuses on a realistic street fighting. If not move on. That goes for any style. My instructor’s motto was “do whatever it takes to win and make it home safely, (don’t start fights, and as long as you don’t do anything illegal it’s ok). That’s exactly what I was looking for. Good luck in your search.
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony Жыл бұрын
@@zezebombastic3953 Also, after four to six months of learning how to punch, fall, kick, grapple, etc, correctly, from that point forward all we did is spar. Every session was a sparring session. Occasionally we’d learn new techniques. But once we got that out of the way and he made sure we understood how to spar correctly and safely, we began full contact sparring, two hours a night, three days a week for a year. That made all the difference for me. Again, good luck.
@WeezyBeez
@WeezyBeez Жыл бұрын
@@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony hey man im training krav right now too. i got intrigued since we only spar very rarely and if we do, its with pads or we can't even hit each other just almost hitting. kinda torn if i should leave krav or not because of this
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony Жыл бұрын
@@WeezyBeez For the first few months you should learn how to do basic things like punching, kicking, falling, etc, without sparring. Otherwise you’ll most likely injure yourself and others. But after that, in my opinion, you should be sparring most of the time. If not, I’d leave that school and find one that does spar a lot. That’s just my opinion.
@alex-jq5dd
@alex-jq5dd 2 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to see an akido master vs untrained fighter video to see if it truly is effective in a sparring/fight setting versus someone untrained like jeff said
@kieranshepherd6715
@kieranshepherd6715 Жыл бұрын
Lots of videos show it's useless because it relies on people working with you. Some technical moves work with alterations. But not great.
@xaviermasse9689
@xaviermasse9689 Жыл бұрын
you guys have no clue. a lot of people in security learn aikido because its very effective to controle people. also, aikikai aikido is very different than aikijutsu/daitoryu aikido. these techniques transitionned from battlefields to kill people, to basically harmony movement/dance but essence is still there. so yeah depends what kind of aikido you learn. Aikido would not be good in mma, but definitely effective in the street, if you don't intend to preserve your opponent like in the dojo
@kieranshepherd6715
@kieranshepherd6715 Жыл бұрын
@@xaviermasse9689 dude I'm a martial arts instructor and I've seen enough videos of people who are black belts in aikido get embarrassed when trying to wrist lock some guy punching them in the face. There are a few holds that work but aikido as a form is a waste of time. There's a guy who Hass done videos with Jeff and he used to teach it and stopped when he realized it doesn't work and he got his butt whipped by someone with mild mma experience. You however believe what ever you wish, if you enjoy the training keep training. But don't expect it to work if you need it.
@artyomarty391
@artyomarty391 10 ай бұрын
@@kieranshepherd6715 i think the point is that when someone is trying to punch you in the face, aikido wont work. But when someone is idle, not threatening, then aikido can help in securing someones wrist Thats pretty much the only extent to which Aikido is useful. However, this one move of grabbing the wrist, is probably the single most important move of every and any security guard or anyone who wants to de-escalate a situation. Straight up punching someone is often just too much, but restraining someone is professional When I was 14 or something this grown big asian man grabbed both my and my friend's wrist at the same and escorted us out. He controlled my entire body with just a hold of my wrist. I presume this was aikido
@FedericoMalagutti
@FedericoMalagutti 2 жыл бұрын
This video is super cool, also I really like how Jeff motivates the answers!
@LeonidZ1988
@LeonidZ1988 9 ай бұрын
the most effective art in a street fight is running
@Zen69967
@Zen69967 7 ай бұрын
a gun
@DaktEdits
@DaktEdits 7 ай бұрын
@@Zen69967 a gun is horrible in a street situation. You're not gonna pop a guy for trying to steal your lunch money
@Zen69967
@Zen69967 7 ай бұрын
@@DaktEdits who steal lunch money now a days bruh 😂
@dustin872
@dustin872 6 ай бұрын
@@DaktEdits Most people carry credit cards these days, still I wouldn't want my ID and credit card stolen anyways.
@Jonasbnn0
@Jonasbnn0 5 ай бұрын
nah its mma
@qamzatmedvedov
@qamzatmedvedov 2 жыл бұрын
so what I got from this is a boxer with grappling wrestling or just some ground and clinch control can pretty much handle most of what life throws at them but if you can use grappling kicking and less common methods than striking you can still manage most situations so essentially you don’t NEED striking but it helps a lot and can even prevent the need for ground game
@bugsshadow3858
@bugsshadow3858 2 жыл бұрын
I think people really underestimate taekwondo. It’s probably mostly because of the sparring which has way too many rules and is pretty much just foot fencing now but taekwondo is the king of kicking. The power a taekwondo kick can generate is immense and one clean kick can easily knock someone out
@JOHNDOE-ry6rd
@JOHNDOE-ry6rd Жыл бұрын
Agree. TKD has best kicks.
@M0n4rc
@M0n4rc Жыл бұрын
As a Karate black belt, thank you for understanding the importance of distance management. I've told friends before that karate is good because of the foundation, distance, defense, strong attacks. But there's so much karate hate that its hard for anyone to hear me. I'm not telling anyone to try a full Kata on someone XD, mind your distance and footwork, wait for them to make a mistake, 1 hit KO kick or punch to the face.
@OtaniNoAsagi
@OtaniNoAsagi 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I sometimes dont like telling people I took Karate not because I'm not proud of what training i got but I just dont want to deal with the hate. I dont where or why people underestimate it so much. Maybe Hollywood is part of the reason? It'd make sense that's where a lot of the Katana hate stems from I noticed.
@fivesix4926
@fivesix4926 Жыл бұрын
This video has inspired me to try out Muay Thai, gonna start in around a week or two. Hope I can stick with it long term for fitness and self defense purposes
@MartialArtsJourney
@MartialArtsJourney Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@AMVedits05
@AMVedits05 Жыл бұрын
haha same here
@jmohan7530
@jmohan7530 Жыл бұрын
W
@Dav_02_0
@Dav_02_0 Жыл бұрын
ima do muay thai and boxing. seems very effective in a combination
@trooperalex
@trooperalex Жыл бұрын
​@lopic_david02 How's that going because I would like to try that combination too. What parts of each style do you use?
@HENTAICOMBO
@HENTAICOMBO Жыл бұрын
this is really informative. ❤
@brandonellisFLman
@brandonellisFLman Жыл бұрын
I have been following Jeff for about a year and love watching his videos and how many people he he actually does sparring with just to put out a video is amazing. I'm just glad that at only 3 months into Muay Thai training in a MMA gym I'm able to agree and even know what Jeff is gonna chose before he does. Makes me realize just how much knowledge I've gained in martial arts in a relatively short time. But like Jeff said , on my first day of Muay Thai training I learned to kick and now my Teep , switch, back and side kicks are so powerful I knocked the heavy banana bag thru the wall at American Top Team 😆 I say that to demonstrate how Jeff said boxing/kickboxing and Muay Thai were all quick to learn and get good at when compared to other traditional martial arts like Kung Fu.
@nacktheslayer9882
@nacktheslayer9882 2 жыл бұрын
I love how enthusiastic he is about everything, and how icy mike was like yeah nothing actually works.
@MartialArtsJourney
@MartialArtsJourney 2 жыл бұрын
😄
@nacktheslayer9882
@nacktheslayer9882 Жыл бұрын
@@johncena12366 his streetbeefs record begs to differ. And his part in ultimate self defense championship
@skaeropt
@skaeropt Жыл бұрын
What people dont understand is that traditional karate has everything innit, ground, kicks, punches, knees, elbows. Karate is one of the martial arts that has a significant impact on other styles. Many practitioners and martial arts masters incorporated karate techniques and principles into their own systems. For example, Taekwondo, was influenced by karate and incorporates some of its striking techniques, stances, and forms.
@ronanboyle2289
@ronanboyle2289 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people don't realise either that katas has elbow strikes knee strikes etc contained in them too
@centristmiguel8581
@centristmiguel8581 Жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to grow up around the largest army base int eh U.S. at the time and trained in so many martial arts that were available from soldiers of all backgrounds and training from all over the world bringing their knowledge to schools around the base. He's absolutely right, every one of them can be effective vs the average person but it depends on the situations. Weapons, space, multiple attackers, etc. You can train for commonality of attack, but you can't truly train for the unknown. The more tools in the box where you have a knowledge and that can respond to most anything is key. And of course, never stop training. Conditioning will end you faster than anything regardless what you know or don't know.
@jello7956
@jello7956 Жыл бұрын
I want to start learning martial arts does the military give free training?
@derpyduck5088
@derpyduck5088 Жыл бұрын
@@jello7956 Kind of. Every branch has a hand to hand combat section in them AFAIK. Marine Corps has their own dedicated Martial Art. After your training, it depends on what base you go to and what your job is. A job that sees more combat ie Infantry or Special Forces will have more opportunity to train obviously. If you're not a grunt, there's usually a martial arts training facility in/around base, but it's not a guarantee.
@tinoslaponi8514
@tinoslaponi8514 2 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents. I'm a Marine MCAP instructor, and BJJ blackbelt. The best "self defense art" is a Concealed Carry Permit and lots of range time. When multiple attackers are in consideration pretty much every martial art is insufficient. No trained martial artist will fair well against a gun.
@someonethatisachristian
@someonethatisachristian 2 жыл бұрын
true but thats really only an option in the US plus Israel and the Czech republic if you have a liscence and maybe a few more countries. In the rest of the world including where I live, its banned and will give you many years in jail, including putting you away with potencially a life sencence for homicide if you use it for self defence. Not even pepperspray is legal here. Your best options are things like menthol spray that does blind a minute or two, tactical flashlight and things like that, plus ofcourse martial arts which i think should be trained if thats all you have.
@tinoslaponi8514
@tinoslaponi8514 2 жыл бұрын
@@someonethatisachristian I honestly hadn't even considered that. I'm just to used to having freedom. I do feel bad for you guys in those countries. Especially Canada these days
@25taylorkw
@25taylorkw 2 жыл бұрын
It would depend on what country you live in terms of having the concealed carry permit. Countries like the United States, Switzerland, and the Czech Republic the citizens in those countries do have an opportunity to get a concealed carry permit ( in which Switzerland and the Czech Republic does have more gun regulation than the US in terms of those countries having a more stronger background check with also trying to pass a gun safety training course in order to get a gun license ). As for countries that don't have those particular laws, the best two practical martial arts for multiple attackers would be to utilize muay thai and boxing to keep distance with also utilizing the eight limb weapons ( if a person is put in position where they have to defend themselves against multiple attackers when each of them are trying to knock you out or if they try to cripple you ) with also having situational awareness.
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, of course. No martial art works against multiple opponents or armed opponents but why would they? I know a lot of people are deluded by martial arts movies, but as long as you’re not, that doesn’t invalidate martial arts. You say this like it’s some great take that only an expert like you can have but it’s the most basic fact that anyone with a brain is aware of. Obviously you agree that there’s still a place for martial arts, especially since: 1) in lots of countries you simply can’t have a weapon 2) a lot of your opponents won’t be armed 3) regarding multiple opponents, yeah that’s a problem, but it’s a problem if you’re armed too in a heavily armed country like the US. You have one gun? Well both my friend and I have guns. Maybe a marine can deal with that but the average person is just as fucked as a boxer faced with 2 opponents.
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinoslaponi8514 that’s facts regarding Canada, even the knife restrictions are getting annoying. I carry a pocket knife when I hike which I literally only use to cut apples and carve simple patterns into bark on fallen branches, but I still worry “is this too long to be legal? Will I get fined?” As for guns, you can barely have a BB gun at this point. On an equally annoying knife regulation related note, I tried to take a bayonet for an AK back to Canada with me when I was coming back from Bosnia. It was 100% legal to bring into Canada and was in my regular luggage, not the carry on so it’s hardly as if I could hijack a plane with it. I was even bringing through kitchen knives of comparable size, but I couldn’t bring the bayonet because “this is a registered weapon with a serial number, you need a special permit”. He even threatened to arrest me, though there may have been an ethnic element to it too. I figured it wasn’t worth the bribe, airport staff there are spoiled so you actually have to give big bribes for which I could just buy a similar item here.
@gamingwithujj1724
@gamingwithujj1724 Жыл бұрын
I think if you have mastered boxing + wrestling and you keep yourself healthy and fit you are a tank in a street fight a literal unit
@Notfakeultra
@Notfakeultra 11 ай бұрын
No such thing as mastering boxing or wrestling
@twk7050
@twk7050 8 ай бұрын
How about kick
@AlexJaeger716
@AlexJaeger716 8 ай бұрын
What about muay thai & bjj instead?
@Notfakeultra
@Notfakeultra 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexJaeger716 mauy Thai and wrestling
@AlexJaeger716
@AlexJaeger716 8 ай бұрын
@@Notfakeultra but wrestling doesn’t teach submissions right?
@ikigai1530
@ikigai1530 Жыл бұрын
Okay ive got to rant here.... To the people who are saying he is being too easy on aikido have clearly never tried or trained aikido at all or for long enough to start to truly understand it. You have probably seen the videos of the guys doing some 'no touch' aikido which does not represent the entire martial art. Aikido teaches the spacing and timing to be able to dodge and block attacks and the to be able to take attackers down with locks and pins. Aikido is not meant to be a solo martial art, it needs to pair with a striking martial art such as boxing or karate. For MMA use aikido will be harder to use as the strikes will be faster and harder to grab but in street fights when people are just blindly going at it aikido can take them down and stop the fight. So stop judging an entire martial art by a few videos youve seen on the internet.
@yeetman9892
@yeetman9892 Жыл бұрын
on the streets everything is all fun and games until they pull out the glock
@khoalacake
@khoalacake 2 жыл бұрын
IMO for self defense it would be boxing for the punches and footwork, wrestling for takedowns and takedown defense, Muay Thai clinch, elbows, knees, BJJ if you end up on your back. Stay away from kicks above the waist and avoid being too comfortable on your back going for submissions, instead focus on sweeps or standing back up.
@innosanto
@innosanto Жыл бұрын
Judo alsp great
@A_HUMAN...
@A_HUMAN... 11 күн бұрын
It's settled, I'm going to learn Muay Thai.
@NoOne-ex4sx
@NoOne-ex4sx 8 күн бұрын
Can't go wrong with Muay Thai!
@3god553
@3god553 Жыл бұрын
Lethwei is underappreciated as its essentially the "street" version of Muay Thai. With the addition of headbutts and a higher level of distance control, along with the hands-down stance it leaves you less vulnerable in comparison to Muay Thai. The low kicks in Lethwei provide a ground control aspect that is fundamentally better than Muay Thai, as a teep can be read easily in MMA compared to an oblique push kick from Lethwei. Obviously Jeff has more experience than me, but I think someone coming from a high-level Lethwei background into MMA would do better than someone coming from a high-level Muay Thai background.
@GibboEditz
@GibboEditz 2 жыл бұрын
When Jeff says Taekwondo would be flashy, and don't have there guard up and over all not effective by it's self, I can totally agree with him if he was only talking about World Taekwondo, There is a style/federation in Taekwondo called "ITF Taekwondo", and it is way more effective then people think. In ITF Taekwondo the sparring is basically Kickboxing just a bit more fancy kicks, they punch to the head, and have there guard up. Outside of sparring there is takedowns, elbow strikes, a little bit of knee strikes, and knowing how to get out of a headlock. ITF Taekwondo was the older style of Taekwondo made by Choi Hong Hi, He made Taekwondo for war and he used to kill people with the Taekwondo, because ITF Taekwondo has a lot of Tang Soo Do techniques like chokes and stuff like that. I would agree if someone only did WT Taekwondo all by it's self in MMA/Street fight which wouldn't be the best option, but ITF taekwondo would be actually up there with karate.
@blackholesix
@blackholesix 2 жыл бұрын
This 👍🏼
@omegakhan5123
@omegakhan5123 Ай бұрын
Most of the champions in MMA do Sambo like Khabib, islam, Shavkat, Umer, Pirate etc etc. Maybe Sambo deserves S or at least A.
@bryanwcksn
@bryanwcksn 2 жыл бұрын
That blue shadow thing is annoying. But the overall video is epic. Both of you are my favourites. Jeff needs to try Machida Karate asap.
@Speeayce
@Speeayce Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, sambo should be s tier. The reason is is that sambo have punching, kicking, elbows, knees, and even headbutts. It also has groin strikes and ground and pound. It has judo like takedowns and is perfect for the street and a tier for mma.
@happydude2163
@happydude2163 Жыл бұрын
Having started with Taekwondo myself and competed and won full contact competition, I personally felt boxing was far superior for defence (especially for speed of learning). I've literally seen amateur boxers hold their own against blackbelts in various martial arts. Why? Because boxing has you immediately sparring full contact and putting what you learn into practice unlike contactless sparring in most martial arts. Again, for this same reason - kick boxing and especially thai-boxing I found were incredibly effective in a very short time of learning. I literally started doing competition in Taekwondo purely because I didn't trust what we were doing in class contactless to be effective + boxers move real fricken quick.
@PP-ec6cw
@PP-ec6cw Жыл бұрын
True I'm a boxer who just started training in taekwondo I feel I can hang with the black belts except my teacher haha
@bruhbasis5269
@bruhbasis5269 Жыл бұрын
I was brown belt in taekwondo but then lost the sport through the years to get back into the martial art world I went into boxing and found how, I wouldn’t say superior but imo for me was superior striking, the distance striking in TKD is useful but throwing kicks Is unique for everyone except in boxing throwing a hook jab cross feels more natural. Basically I like boxing more.
@itpugil
@itpugil 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff is one of my favorite MMA KZbinrs, probably my most favorite now that I think about it. So much so that I try copying his techniques when he spars or even his bagwork. Guy gives out ton of content that its hard to believe its free. He also made me rethink the effectiveness of certain martial arts deemed ineffective, further emphasized after watching this.
@jesstv888
@jesstv888 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an Aikido practicioner, but when we practice randori “random attacks” I go back to boxing and low kicks and my sensei tells me not to. I always say to him that you have no rules in the streets and he laughs😂😂😂
@jonatanlj747
@jonatanlj747 Жыл бұрын
aikido randori? that sounds super interesting, I'd love it if you could tell me more
@jesstv888
@jesstv888 Жыл бұрын
@@jonatanlj747 it means like random in English, where different attacks will come to you randomly and you need to use Aikido techniques to counter your Uke aka partners or opponents, but we don’t use the word opponents in Aikido. I usually use throwing techniques because pins are useless in multiple attacks. The phasing starts slow and becomes faster. It is also assessed during a test if someone applies for Shodan or first degree black belt in English.
@jonatanlj747
@jonatanlj747 Жыл бұрын
@@jesstv888 I know very little about Aikido in general but this was cool. I always thought of Aikido as being quite rigid, where you drill specific movements for specific attacks. My respect for Aikido just grew a little bit since this is a way to make it more fluid than I had anticipated.
@jesstv888
@jesstv888 Жыл бұрын
@@jonatanlj747 we see things through our own lens, I did also. Things are rigid for beginners, but get a bit natural as the practioner moves to black belt. My sensei and other masters say that being a black belter is the start of the journey. That is why the slower form of randori starts there, but I get the chance to practice it because our sensei let us even if we are still brown belters in order to prepare us. I respect the art, but like I said, I will resolve in punching and low kicks when the need arises, since it is my instinct😂
@dedydet6646
@dedydet6646 Жыл бұрын
I think that's fine though, imo aikido really needs more atemi application 😅 i restarted my aikido training recently after years of absence, along with muaythai
@jensgabrielarbeitmunck1918
@jensgabrielarbeitmunck1918 Жыл бұрын
As a brazilian it feels odd to see capoeira put together with other martial arts, I've always seen it as more artistic, theres usually music to give it a rythm plus you're not allowed to physically touch the opponent. I would see it more as a complementary training for the body, helping you develop movements for martial arts than an actual martial art
@iwkaoy8758
@iwkaoy8758 Жыл бұрын
You Ken hit de other purr sun. You dance and play together,but someone could go four your head ore trip you. It teaches you two bee alert at isle times. Win you're sparing width some one,You expect a hit,But if you ken dodge a unexpected hit while playing, a expect Ted hit from a opponent is easier two predict and dodge.
@Arcessitor
@Arcessitor Жыл бұрын
@@iwkaoy8758 is this text to speech or did you really just miswrite every word possible
@antizionism234
@antizionism234 Ай бұрын
this guy really shows martial arts is a science as well as a discipline, not a this style is better than the other, its body mechanics, and each art evolved other time due to different circumstances and how people fought in the past, its weird, because we'd think we have evolved as a race, yet we require nastier quick and efficient movements that require adrenaline related responses to get the job done, we sacrifice on pure technique that protects our joints and movement positioning for something that will give us a temporary boost in power in order to get the job done quicker. but traditional martial arts wouldn't exist if it didn't work at least in its original context. The fact is, most people don't have the time to learn the complex body movements in order to negate the fear of 30 yr ol meth head trying to rob them at knife point on a lonely cold street in the middle of down town when you're by your self trying to get home or whatever. But then being an efficient boxer or grappler with inferior street striking and arm or neck breaking techniques makes you as vulnerable to weapons tactics as your typical but still in shape football player, tack and field guy, baseball, basket ball, etc. If you're fit and know how to take a punch and throw a punch, you'll knock some one out, but no amount of endurance training is going to stop a stab to the stomach, and no amount of drills and repetition without full contact sparing is going to prepare you for an over drugged combatant who feels no pain from throwing haymakers at you, breaking your chokehold or grab position just out of pure resolve for trying to hurt you, while you try to compromise their psycho induced rage state from trying to kill you and not carrying what happens to their body.
@niflo88
@niflo88 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with martial arts in general is the lack of sparring. One of the reasons BJJ is seen as "the best" is because of the constant pressure in training. Lets say your training partner is being a pure rag doll, no resistance or anything. And this now apply this concept for all BJJ schools, it would be ranked differently probably, because you wouldn't be able to make it work - as it goes with everything. This is often seen as the issue with all traditional martial arts, but does not apply to all school of course. If you understand the concept of our martial art and do pressure test/sparring it will most likely work pretty well.
@DJEmirSantana
@DJEmirSantana 2 жыл бұрын
BJJ has great finishing techniques and great ground techniques but also can get you in trouble, it can fall apart if you are not at the highest levels for super fast finishes, otherwise while scrambling for position to arm bar, or choke, ankle lock etc you fall victim to many areas being exposed to grabs like the groin, throat, fingers for small joint manipulations, eye gouges, or on the street being that close if they have a knife you don't know about or friends in the crowd that jump you all can be deadly for you. etc...
@ghostfacepacifist6046
@ghostfacepacifist6046 2 жыл бұрын
Thay just the tradition ones of martial arts, from boxing, wrestling, sambo, kickboxing, sanda, muay thai, kyokushi (spelling?) karate, judo, mma have sparring and live resistance. Wouldn't call this the biggest issue
@diamond_dude1063
@diamond_dude1063 Жыл бұрын
Muay thai has the most efficient sparring.
@OneFromEasternFinland
@OneFromEasternFinland 2 жыл бұрын
6:31 actually, ninjutsu is an umbrella term, not a single martial art. Yes, there are weapon techniques, such as shurikenjutsu (which is about throwing those stars or shurikens) - but the unarmed combat is actually called taijutsu
@AkashiroNota
@AkashiroNota 2 жыл бұрын
This exactly. Bujikan taijutsu is basically judo + bjj and it is definitely not something people should underestimate, Genbukan on the other hand feels like combat aikido. I trained both for a long time, also trained BJJ for few months and sticked with Bujinkan.
@frost8077
@frost8077 2 жыл бұрын
His ranking is still accurate though. Most of the moves would be banned in MMA since taijutsu is mostly joint breaks and other lethal strikes.
@Zlatirano
@Zlatirano 8 ай бұрын
A boxer knows that on the streets there are no rules. I have been training in boxing for over 2 years almost and I also know in street fights you will get kicked. But you can just take distance or go forward really fast to make their kick ineffective or you can just grab their foot with ur hands. You dont really need a martial art for that it's instinct.
@DAVYT_dbreezy
@DAVYT_dbreezy 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather practiced judo for 18 years since he was 12, and he walked around the streets of Ukraine dropping anyone that came to him looking for trouble.
@mitchyt7906
@mitchyt7906 Жыл бұрын
So if I went up to him and asked what time it was you’re telling me he’s think fuck it and just j Flo me
@DAVYT_dbreezy
@DAVYT_dbreezy Жыл бұрын
@@mitchyt7906 Brother, with that attidute, yeah he would.
@derpyduck5088
@derpyduck5088 Жыл бұрын
@@DAVYT_dbreezy Sounds like exactly the type of person nobody likes in martial arts. The guys that think they're badasses and go around bullying untrained people
@DAVYT_dbreezy
@DAVYT_dbreezy Жыл бұрын
@@derpyduck5088 Yeah maybe, but I dont bully untrained fighters.
@DAVYT_dbreezy
@DAVYT_dbreezy Жыл бұрын
And I stay humble buddy
@shumookerjee293
@shumookerjee293 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video from two of my favorite Martial Artist/KZbinrs. I think Jeff's grading is fairly accurate. Though he's so politely Canadian, you could tell he struggled to grade anything below a C.🤣
@cross_key
@cross_key Жыл бұрын
I've been doing taekwondo for 18 years and am a second degree black belt. Any martial art is effective as long as the practitioner is experienced and from a school that derives techniques and mindset from self-defense, rather than just forms or sport. Taekwondo has the same problems as any other traditional martial art. There are lots of McDojos, a lot of different styles (falling under two umbrellas, WT and ITF), and it takes a very very long time to become effective with it. But, for those who train ITF like me, which includes punches to the face, for long enough, taekwondo is scary effective. We can punch you and we can kick effectively from almost any distance (both closer and further than you would think). We DO protect the face -- it goes back to the point about karate and kickboxing in that we understand distance and the value of staying loose. Our hands come up if they need to and our blocks for punches look fairly similar to those in western boxing with head movement and taking punches on the arm curled by the face (and if we want to fight dirty, by putting an elbow in the way), We train take-downs, realistic techniques, distance, and the biomechanics behind generating force. I do other martial arts too (BJJ, boxing, traditional Filipino martial arts) and I will always be thankful for the foundation that tkd gave me.
@DJ-st4rs
@DJ-st4rs 11 ай бұрын
Tell us which Taekwondo - WTF or ITF? If you are doing WTF its not the original Taekwondo
@cross_key
@cross_key 11 ай бұрын
@@DJ-st4rs ITF! I say so in the comment
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how varied the ratings in each tier list video have been. Regarding karate, and I think he described Taekwondo similarly though I’m pretty unfamiliar with TKD, I’d say it’s a matter of most techniques being effective but many schools having very bad training methodologies, because of a combination of pandering to kids and excessive adherence to tradition. A good chunk of karate techniques are shared with higher tier standup martial arts like kickboxing and fair amount of the more unique ones have been used effectively, but yeah, like I said, lots of shit training methodologies. Most of you are probably thinking I’m gonna say “but the school I went to was ideal”. No. It was certainly above average IMO, in that we sparred often, there was no weird culty Sensei syndrome, we learned a bit of BJJ too (1 week of classes every month), and he never gave black belts to kids “you can’t grade for black belt until you at least start getting your adult strength, because at the end of the day, you’re not much of a black belt if you can’t at least hold your own against a grown man”, yet at the same time there’s no black belt fetishization, he makes it clear throughout our karate careers that first Dan is just “you’ve completed the tutorial”, not “your fists are deadly weapons and must be register with the government”. However, it was definitely quite kid focused so it took years before we were allowed to move past pretty light contact sparring. I’m not advocating for like full contact fighting between 12 year olds, but I think a bit more contact earlier on would’ve been very beneficial, and it seems my Sensei agrees because recently he’s been introducing more sparring and more contact (more, not full) in the kids classes. We also do spend a lot of time on kata. I do like kata, I enjoy it as a traditional thing, but personally I’d focus on it less to have more time to spar. Like it’s a very big part of our exams for each belt so we end up devoting, I think, a bit more time to it than is ideal. Not as bad as other schools I’ve seen, we do still have time to do more practical drills and spar, but I’d still definitely cut back on the kata skimping. Sadly I don’t think my Sensei will make that change, at least I’m the foreseeable future. What’s funny is that the same guy’s purely BJJ classes which I also attended, have somewhat of a different mentality. Rolling every class, obviously BJJ has nothing like Kata, so it feels almost like a different school. Perhaps if I’d started as an adult I’d feel differently but like kids over 10ish can start taking things a bit more seriously so I still think he waited too long.
@ripitvapars
@ripitvapars 2 жыл бұрын
Karate is definitely not below in a tier than kickboxing, that's just ridiculous. Also kata is not shit training, it's actually something a lot of these more primitive (easy-to-master) arts are missing. Kata is for developing precision, control of your movements and to train your muscle memory (faster movements, reaction time, less fatigue from practicing), plus this can be done alone, when you have no sparring partner. Get up in the morning before everyone else like Kobe in his basketball camps and do kata. Then do it in the evening after the last practice.
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
@@ripitvapars I mean, karate, as practiced in most schools, is less focused on practicality than kickboxing as practiced in most schools. If the way it’s taught and practiced were ignored and the technique compared, karate and kickboxing would rate about the same, but we do have to take into account how Karate is typically focused on being a fun activity for kids and preserving tradition (and in a statistically significant number of dojos practiced without sparring 🤮). Don’t get me wrong, I love karate, but I do try to be self aware about it. As for kata I don’t know of it being any better than just doing combinations while moving (things like kihon ido). If I remember correctly there were studies that found that kata isn’t all that helpful, but since I can’t find them, feel free to disregard that point if you want.
@mrgsudo
@mrgsudo Жыл бұрын
One element to take in consideration is that Karate in the US is quite different than Karate everywhere else. When I started in Brazil in the early 90's my sensei was beating my leg with a shinai to correct the posture and we started the class with 80-100 sit ups and 50 push ups and I was 14. You never saw a karateka wear a do-gi other than the traditional white (no multi-color, star and stripes uniforms). Then I moved here and is like Wild West of martial arts where everything goes and was very hard to find a dojo where the sensei was not trying to scam me for money. "want to spar? join the sparring class on Friday, just add 50 bucks to your tuition"! "You have a uniform already? Sorry, you need to use the uniform with our logo on it, just for 100 bucks for this very basic thin do-gi that you can find on amazon for 50 U$". I believe that are very good dojos here, but you need to look through all the BS before find someone legit.
@Kris-ym2zr
@Kris-ym2zr 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved how you rearranged the table based on different considerations after you already had done the first version.
@rraygunzin
@rraygunzin 5 ай бұрын
tkd black belt here. i actually do appreciate jeff here. we do some boxing, grappling, and takedowns in our studio, though. not sure if the same can be applied for all of the studios around the world. tkd is a good branch to go into other, more effective martial arts, such as muay thai. i really wanna practice muay thai when i'm older. i feel as if the combination of tkd and muay thai will be really good! i appreciate jeff for his blunt honesty.
@MrGreen087
@MrGreen087 2 жыл бұрын
BJJ for the street is a joke. Who wants to be lying on concrete looking for submission? Street fights need to be finished as quickly as possible. My pick is boxing and judo. Boxing is best for fast legs and one punch knockout which are life saver against several opponents. Judo, in turn, lets you quickly throw someone from the clinch with a maximum damage, especially when it is done on concrete.
@captainkirk7513
@captainkirk7513 2 жыл бұрын
i want to
@outis439-A
@outis439-A 2 жыл бұрын
Jj has better judo imo because it’s more refined. Like how many moves are there that put you in vulnerable positions? The sweeps in jj sure are less but will work better. Also no double or single legs? Why?
@12shah74
@12shah74 Жыл бұрын
​@@outis439-A lol Jiu jitsu barely has any judo or throws. What you on about😂😂😂
@outis439-A
@outis439-A Жыл бұрын
@@12shah74 Well do you even do Jiu Jitsu?
@Orimthekeyacolite
@Orimthekeyacolite Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Jeff for open mindedness, although there were still a couple of slips like putting Muay Thai in the "western martial arts" category or this ridiculous notion that "most traditional styles don't spar" which show he still operates a little bit in a popular artificial cliché narrative
@AfroGaz71
@AfroGaz71 Жыл бұрын
Surprised that Sambo was way down on his Tier of importance to MMA when you consider the success of it's practicioners. Fedor, Khabib, Islam, Arlovski, and Pavlovich to name a few.
@drewgallo6958
@drewgallo6958 2 жыл бұрын
Wushu Sanshou should be mentioned here its a Chinese Kickboxing combine with takedowns withs strikes. There’s a couple of MMA fighters who is using it (Cung Lee) or team Lakay from the Philippines they’ve produce champions
@potatoehead4405
@potatoehead4405 Жыл бұрын
Nah that shit is lame as hell, it’s just kick boxing with wrestling and a bit of bjj lol.
@drewgallo6958
@drewgallo6958 Жыл бұрын
@@potatoehead4405 then you should try spar with one. You know its lame or not 😂🤣
@joshywashewa3257
@joshywashewa3257 Жыл бұрын
Unless your mike Tyson made me laugh 😂 20:30
@AlexanderMoen
@AlexanderMoen 4 ай бұрын
Really, boxing S tier for pros? When is the last time a pro fighter had a predominantly boxing background? No kicks or knees or elbows, stance opening up to kicks, huge gloves giving you a bad understanding of blocking, no wrestling, no takedowns? Cmon, man
@fightdisciple9192
@fightdisciple9192 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid. Any top judo player has a top ground game these days. “Newaza” is practiced all the time at clubs now. Islam for instance a Dan grade judo player had no problem at all going to the ground with Oliveira & ended up subbing him.
@conor7179
@conor7179 Жыл бұрын
Sports for self defence in order of effectiveness: 1. Poker (read the room and leave 1 hour before the fight starts) 2. Sprinting (get away safe) 3. Soccer (kick lead leg out & sprint like a hyena. Play dead if necessary) 4. Boxing (fast jab, range, footwork for escapes) 5. Muay thai(if attackers get to mid range, elbows, knees) 6. Wrestling (if clinched, stay standing & slam) 7. Bjj (a last line of defence. Like a saftey harness for if you fall. If the opponents homophobic they may give up altogether)
@justreadjohn
@justreadjohn 9 ай бұрын
Read Gay Agenda 21 by Nemanja Ljubojevic
@conor7179
@conor7179 9 ай бұрын
@@justreadjohn ehhhh...no thanks
@hihe530
@hihe530 Жыл бұрын
turns out Jeff did better on sharing his opinions, This dude is a good teacher to have.
@BacatauMania
@BacatauMania 2 жыл бұрын
Ramsey put every art in the bottom half because "no art is near perfect to go into the high ranks" Jeff did basically the opposite. Comparing their tier lists is very funny
@wolfcorpse
@wolfcorpse 2 жыл бұрын
Ramsey is goofy
@someonethatisachristian
@someonethatisachristian 2 жыл бұрын
Ramsey is right in one sence when he basically says that martial arts is for though guys, ofcourse tough guys will win in MMA and be awsome on the street, as he puts down and ridicules krav maga. But whole point with self defence like krav maga is that it ISNT for tough guys, its to help normal and weak people (whats considered soft targets) learn some skills to defend themselves against predators on the street, not to win against tough guys that they would lose against anyway even if they trained MMA harder than the tough guys. Funny how that doesnt even cross Ramseys mind when he talks about this. He also said good martial arts are those that takes a long time to learn..... Ehh... for an ENTUISIAST maybe? Not for an average person that wants to learn self defence, average people dont have time for 10-20 years of hard training before they can use it effectively. Also having looked at MMA competitors have a swing at eachother at weigh-ins, they fight like brawlers, not refined, tecnical fighters you see in the ring for some reason, something "shuts off" when that happens, this is something thats i see is often talked about in real self defence like krav maga.
@katokianimation
@katokianimation 2 жыл бұрын
Ramsey did the woman self defense. Not mma tier list. Also he belives the best for being good in mma, is simply doing mma. And working on the holes in your mma game.
@BacatauMania
@BacatauMania 2 жыл бұрын
@@katokianimation yeah, in fact I ignored completely the different concepts which tier list had But still interesting to compare them
@BacatauMania
@BacatauMania 2 жыл бұрын
@@someonethatisachristian if the average person doesn't want to train that much it doesn't want to defend itself. Self defense demands training, which krav maga does is give the ILLUSION of being capable of defending itself, but people don't realize this because most won't ever need to use krav maga skill or at the right time to use it are just too afraid and nervous to think straight and react. Ramsey is right when he says that, he is protecting his audience from doing some krav maga bullshit and think it can try to disarm someone with a gun
@mikeneidlinger8857
@mikeneidlinger8857 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to get "hands" then train with blades with double single forward reverse and mixed grips. Train daggers and long weapons too. I've noticed that people who don't have this training can't get through my defense and I have an easy time hitting them. I have a Silat and Escrima background since 1993 and in 2008 I began Tai Chi, Bagua and Xingyi. The question I like to ask is what type of person you become from training in the martial art?
@darnellbutler5867
@darnellbutler5867 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to try Silat for the longest
@mikeneidlinger8857
@mikeneidlinger8857 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you train Escrima with it. I feel they should always be taught together. When I see Silat I have to ask them if they know how to fight with weapons and when I see Escrima I have to ask them if they know how to fight. I mostly practice Tai Chi. I focus on internal energy and flow. I want to learn Traditional Chinese Medicine and Chinese Language. I have a secret Tai Chi practice for meditation it gets me into a special state. Tai Chi is unique.
@mikeneidlinger8857
@mikeneidlinger8857 2 жыл бұрын
Most MCs freeze up all the Gs duck when heat gets rough ease in the cut to show you front What for? For War? I tore you off to born through cross I toss a fool who lost his cool And tried to gouge my eye I asked him why? Was that necessary? You hella scary! HAHA! Just playing I’m just saying with no delay in the street fight I fight bladed so no way did some Punk ass kid not freeze up all the Gs duck when heat gets rough ease in the cut to show you front I’m in martial arts prison for making the decision to envision on psychedelics the hell it get raised Dazed and Confused I fuse different martial arts and pull stunts on the lump I sit I’m not the shit I fear an old man who use control and submit don’t get hit He roll you up quick Servin’ you thick in the trick with it to lock or choke Smoke a toke of pot and got into the shot in for the takedown to the ground prone in the zone
@varunv2584
@varunv2584 2 жыл бұрын
LOL silat... Tai Chi...
@mikeneidlinger8857
@mikeneidlinger8857 2 жыл бұрын
What kinds of martial arts are you into?
@dexgradyjr
@dexgradyjr 22 күн бұрын
BJJ 1st Wrestling 2nd Mauy Thai 3rd Kickboxing 4th TaekwonDo 5th Boxing 6th Fact is most fights end up in a clinch or on the ground so any grappler had an advantage in a one on one street fight second legs hit you before a hand and alot harder so if you are trained one kick to head or body will end the fight last size of opponent means alot in all of these except BJJ
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