Best medieval weapons to use against elves: FANTASY RE-ARMED

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[@looseycanon]

Shad: When throwing down with an elf, you have to analyze their culture! Happy thrawn noises

[@herozilla5458]

Lol

[@ericward8459]

Excellent reference!

[@nickthegreat9434]

Dont forget their artwork, music, tech and biology.

[@rallyl7053]

I like the idea that elves are so scared of death it causes inaction. For humans death is already a certainty so it doesn’t petrify them nearly as much. For elves death doesn’t have to exist and that’s why they’re so reluctant to risk it all.

[@timafterdark3759]

Luke R In Warhammer Fantasy, Elves can live longer than any race put together but aren’t truly immortal. They do age and die of old age, only if you’re a god’s blessing, Magic, or other “questionable” means.

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

Tim Jordan "Elves can live longer than any race put together" Not Slann or maybe dragons.

[@timafterdark3759]

The Whisperer In Darkness True, but they’re not immortal and do die of old age. They’re not like their 40k counterparts

[@Dwarfurious]

yes! this! They think they're so amazing and above it all and better than all races; so why the hell would they risk their eternal perfection in a battle with some ugly goblins? They wouldnt!

[@Dwarfurious]

Tim Jordan What about famine? disease? any illness at all? CANCER? a million things can kill ya, even if you take out all age related illnesses you're gonna slip in the bathtub and die one of these days.

[@phoephoe795]

Static electricity is highly effective. Anything that turns perfectly groomed hair into a big poofy mess will be highly effective against elves.

[@Ulvetann]

Bubblegum! Bubblegum is feared by all long-haired beings. Do You have any idea of the suffering of getting catapulted kilos of freshly chewed bubblegum launched straight into the freshly shampooed hair?

[@RayTC]

Ulvetann pretty sure thats a war crime

[@user-bf2nb3tm8f]

LOL

[@Muazen]

I'm glad you brought up elves reproducing and maturing slowly. The pointy eared devils will fall under the zerg rush of humanity.

[@mattieerola6312]

...filthy knife-ears...

[@charlottewalnut3118]

Muazen Heck you don’t even have to make an attrition style warfare their women seem to fall for humans all the time you just have to wait for them to stop breeding with their own meals

[@creldest]

@@UCUCUC27 To be fair, bestiality is a thing. Not a socially accepted thing, but certainly a thing.

[@UCUCUC27]

@@creldest obviously its a thing dont be needlessly nuanced

[@myself2noone]

@@UCUCUC27 In Lord of the rings at least elves and humans are both "children of illuvitar" so no not really.

[@fatman80000]

Instead of using a heavy weapon to overpower a D&D type elf in melee, why not use the shield to charge into the elf and knock them down or off their feet? They're also lighter after all. If it's possible, pin them beneath the shield until they pass out from the difficulty in breathing.

[@shadiversity]

Love this idea.

[@voidwalker5784]

Now all I can think of is a huge army of humans holding Roman sized shields chasing an elf army around in circles for a couple of hours

[@mennograafmans1595]

Using your weight is indeed a good point. Legolas is light enough to walk on snow, so no matter their strength, they'll have far less stability. Us a testudo and just push them of cliffs or against walls.

[@joelsasmad]

Have a spike on your shield to speed the process up.

[@emilianorios4761]

Pin them down with shields then gouge their throats with daggers

[@mrspecs4430]

🤣 "just outbreed them!" 🤔 I feel like we've kinda already done that ....

[@akakios7386]

There are currently 7.8 billion humans, that's a lot of humans.

[@marsfreelander5969]

New best pick-up line... common babby your gonna need ta pop out four of five little buns with someone to save the human race and im a better catch than that guy over there XD

[@aidenmacgregorful]

@@akakios7386 before or after plague deaths at this point?

[@Kyberforce101]

What if elves are able to produce offspring for their entire endless life

[@agsilverradio2225]

Fotgetten Realms elves cannonicly breed slowly, becaise there are a limited number of elvish souls who get reincarnated abunch.

[@TheYannir]

So that's why you have so many kids. Just outbreeding the elves.

[@erikanichols9633]

I have done my part with 4

[@Iruka1991]

That's literally why the empire sign the white and gold concordance. In 20 years the empire will be re stocked with soldiers ready for fighting and the elved would not be even half of what they used to be. But the greedy bitch lf Ulfric had to ruin everyting with his gloat of power.

[@arthas640]

@@Iruka1991 Ulfric gave his life to safeguard the Nords, you imperial dog!

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@Iruka1991 Actually, Elder Scrolls Elves CAN restock their forces if they want too, they just don't have as much of a sex drive. If necessary, they can and will reproduce accordingly. Even then, the Aldmeri Dominion isn't just the Altmer, it has Bosmer, the most populous race of Mer, as well as the large population of Khajit, so I mean...

[@thalmoragent9344]

@Silver Summons Damn... 13? Just one mom?

[@NopeJustPatrick]

The medieval fantasy equivalent of flashbang/tear gas grenades would also be very effective given that nearly all forms of fantasy elves have enhanced senses. Depending on how big the difference is between human and elf sensitivity, our countermeasures might not even have to be harmful to us.

[@Taolan8472]

Im just thinking about a high intensity strobe light. Today like a 500 or 750 lumen LED cluster tightly focused with a high frequency strobe. In ye olde days maybe some kind of lantern? Like a spot lantern but with a bundle of rushes in it and maybe some kind of spinning wheel that makes the light appear to flicker rapidly.

[@Ulvetann]

Before going at 'em, dine well on raw onions and beans. -Then let them have it. The smells from a flatulent human can bring the strongest willed person to their knee.

[@barrylyndon5552]

Fantasy flash bang is shaking a pixie really really hard then chucking it

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@barrylyndon5552 Damn, that's actually kinda brutal mate 😳 Poor Pixie gets hella shaken up and then tossed and exploded 😢

[@erichvondonitz5325]

Just drop mustard gas onto their home forests, flush them out of the forest and proceed to hunt down the fleeing ones with archer cavalry or light cavalry. Pick them out one by one. After that, burn the forests to flush out any of those who survived the initial gas attack and again, hunt them down with cavalry

[@shadfacts6465]

Shad Fact: Shad has released an expansion to his cook "Eat What You Kill: An adventures cook book" he has added some delightful delightful treats such as: Pike Goblin Skewers, Beheaded Orc Brains in Caramel Sauce, and Rottisserie Style Kobold.

[@mme.veronica735]

Oooo, Beheaded Orc Brains in Caramel Sauce sounds good. What's the recipe?

[@freyja5800]

I chn only assume it starts with: "first, you have to locate an orc camp and behead all its inhabitants..."

[@brokenursa9986]

"Then scalp the orcs and use a hammer to crack open their skulls. This is necessary to extract the brains."

[@freyja5800]

"Try not to damagge the scull too much, as the traditional way of serving this disch is inside the skull of its owner"

[@Undomaranel]

"Let the brains marinate in the caramel sauce in the skull overnight, then cover the opening in damp leaves and simmer over coals until the brains' consistency is not unlike pumpkin pie."

[@2MeterLP]

So your tactic against OP elves is a pair of good running shoes and making babies? I like that.

[@XSilver_WaterX]

I believe so, just look at space elves. They are moderately more superior than their fantasy cousins but they fall under the same guise. Plus Screw you evles!!!

[@tilemacro]

I think they run faster, so dont bother with shoes. Start breeding.

[@jeanlannes4396]

Yeah, the human woman's womb is the greatest weapon for defeating Elves.

[@cedricburkhart3738]

@@jeanlannes4396 His Sun Darth Vader will destroy those elves!!! 💀🗡️☺️🛡️

[@darklighter8968]

well, you can read the Witcher's books, and i think in the 5th or 6th, an elven Sage Avalac'h explains to Geralt why humans managed to drive out every other species around, basically human's fuse is short, but it burns so much brighter than anyone else's, he even states that both elven males AND females were attracted to humans because of their ''fuck like the world's gonna end'' mentality, basically becuase it was true for most of them, since their lifespan was so short, thus the amount of half elves that spawned, and these were obviously more attracted to the chaotic human lifestyle than the elven zen mantras.

[@farldarkbeard]

Darn it shad you have thought of everything I can't think of any smart arsed comments. Wait elves are often depicted as living in forests so we is just burn them out.

[@johannageisel5390]

But then we'd have to fight the ents too.

[@mitchellstry9048]

@@johannageisel5390 Fire still solves that problem

[@danny_decheeto8300]

“Medieval version of fortunate son plays”

[@matthewwriter9539]

"Humans have cut down so many trees that we have made forests a thing of the past! Now the Elves have nowhere left to live!"

[@user-et8vm9cc3t]

@@santiagofaiella1255 Who's "Monika"?

[@daniell1483]

"Out-breed them!" This is basically the story described in The Witcher series. Elves used to own the Continent and had a thriving civilization prior to the coming of humanity. Then the Elves taught people magic, agriculture, etc., then at some point, the humans started to clash with their once gracious hosts. Over a long period of time, humans wore down the elves through numbers. The Aen Elle elves are a different story as they took a much more hardline stance against humans as I understand it. Anyway, after centuries of erosion, humans replaced the elves of the Continent as the dominant race.

[@PayneMaximus]

You mean that the best weapon to fight elves has been in our pants all along? Now I feel the power between my legs!

[@LUCIAN8016]

Yes, all you need to do is tell them that they are overpopulated show some fake statistics, give them condoms and birth control pills, unrealistic standards of beauty, make them pay for a career in magic... and they'll all die out. Wait, does anyone do this with us?

[@elu9780]

Od zera I really want to start arguing about birth control not being bad and such buuuut... I'd rather go fight elves with my natural weapon.

[@PayneMaximus]

Exactly. Animals have their claws and such as natural weapons, and we've got ours.

[@LUCIAN8016]

@Elu People usually identify evil with suffering, pain and harm. Birth control gives a lot of pleasure and this is what biggest evil is all about.

[@danconrad920]

MaximusPayne , I bet you do

[@steffenaltmeier6602]

Elves are also often arogant and think themselves superior. You might be able to feign weakness against op elves or bait them into overextending. Alternatively prolonging the fight might also frustrate elves with this kind of weakness, having them make mistakes or overextending all on their own. Taunting could also work and pissing them off in general seems viable as well.

[@steffenaltmeier6602]

long-living elves are also often depicted as being stuck with tradition and being unable to adapt to new weapons and tactics. so using recently developed swords/weapons or rarely used swords/weapons, their experience advantage actually goes in your favour as you know the matchup better than your oponent. i am doing that a lot in videogames i play, where i pick up underused weapons/skills/factions/tactics and beat my oponent with misdirection and experience. i can imagine this working great against elves as well.

[@geoffrogers7590]

Are they though? Or have they just been written that way in inferior fantasy novels and games that aren't Tolkien?

[@amitabhakusari2304]

Older people are usually less arrogant and more capable in a conversation.

[@delariousduck1036]

Yeah that’s when the French come in play

[@DarkLordOfSweden]

@@geoffrogers7590 "inferior fantasy that is not Tolkien" M8, Tolkien was great, arguably the greatest creator of a fantasy setting, but nobody likes an elitist and by being one you just bring shame to his works

[@Tacticslion]

Shad: "Elves can be considered kind of like cheaters in this regard-" Me: "-well, I mean, true as that is, it sounds harsh to just say it, like that-" Shad: (goes on to describe the cats) Me: "... oh. But, still, 'cheater' works pretty well, yeah." (Shad then proceeds to suggest we play dirty right back. Well played.)

[@Bluesonofman]

Guns

[@The_Sleepiest_Socialist]

@@Bluesonofman you’re going all in on the cheating, aren’t you?

[@Bluesonofman]

@@The_Sleepiest_Socialist In war there is no such thing as cheating. (Fire bombs a forest to force the wood elves out of the war.)

[@GrayGriffonKnight]

To be fair: Lord of the rings elves have more in common with like, angels, then other fantasy worlds.

[@Bluesonofman]

Guns will still work

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@Bluesonofman Yeah, but who's to say the Elves won't also have guns at their disposal? 😅 especially if they're all so light on their feet, they'd be able to whip around with pistols with blinding speed and accuracy

[@Bluesonofman]

@@thalmoragent9344 Magic leads to stagnation. The only world were that is not the case is Youjo Senki.

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@Bluesonofman Yeah, but you think the Elves are gonna sit idly by as they see Humans advance? I mean, if they're that well off in terms of advances ahead of humans, they'll study from the humans to stay ahead, since they can't be in terms of population

[@Bluesonofman]

@@thalmoragent9344 I imagine them trying to make a deal with their god if death for some dark magic that in the end won’t work as in the next war they would expect man to still be using some sort of musket while man has moved on to M-1 Garands, Liquid Cooled Browning Machine Guns, and Howitzers.

[@DPXerxes]

Tolkien's elves are also much lighter than humans (cf Legolas walking over the snow at Caradhras while the rest of the fellowship is deeply sunk in it), I'm sure you could exploit that somehow to their disadvantage.

[@natelandherr5202]

Shield Bash

[@bruhtonbruhkkinson6848]

"It's raining elves again." "Oh. It must be the idiots with the shields again-on the cliffs."

[@mrspecs4430]

if their ability to walk on snow solely comes from them being lighter they'd got to be so light even a light breeze would be a hurricane for them.. I think it's more like some sort of magic that makes them light on their feet.

[@ilejovcevski79]

Yeah, i don't think they are that light as well. They are "light on the feet" though, as they can sneak pretty well and they are fleet footed as well, as they appear to run faster then humans on average.

[@NamelessKing1597]

I think it’s just as much because of grace as lightness. Not only does he have less weight to distribute over the snow he also has the body awareness to distribute that weight in a way that prevents him from falling in.Or it could just be magic. The magic system in LOTR is so soft it’s hard to tell what’s magical and what’s physical.

[@buddybeas5237]

You forgot the most dangerous fantasy elves Christmas Elves

[@barrybend7189]

You must be Scottish.

[@bohemianmonk6222]

I thought you were going to mention the Drow for a second. Or the Dark Elves from Record of the Lodoss War.

[@emilianorios4761]

Only one weapon is known to kill them, the adult television christmas special

[@darthplagueis13]

Recruit some orcs as grinch supplement.

[@Phantom8941]

Paulini Elves are among the most dangerous there are.

[@denisdionigidelgrande7961]

"How to beat anything" A book by Groblock Goblin chief Outbreed'em

[@eeveetheeverything6652]

When he mentioned fighting dirty in a 1v1 scenario Me: It would be a real shame if my throwing knife,on my belt, somehow found its way into the elf's leg...

[@ronjayrose9706]

Lmao

[@MB-tc7tw]

I almost feel like a net and trident would be a great way to fight dirty. If they’re dual wielding they’ll have shorter weapons which puts them in danger of the net. If they’re stronger we can toss the net and use the trident as just a weapon with a reach advantage. I choose trident over spear because accuracy matters less as you have more pointy ends. Also if the elves have a weaker constitution the small knick of a trident would be more meaningful than on human counterparts. Poisoning the tips with something with a strong smell like feces would make them pay more attention to the trident making them more vulnerable to the net...which will warrant a win.

[@driftingdruid]

i see you went Dark type there....

[@Chaotic-warp]

Elves would slash open your skull before you get the chance to do that lol

[@Geeko170]

All in all, this means the best way to fight elves is by making deals with dragons! Let dragons fight them!

[@Geeko170]

Proud ToBe Subjugation by dragons or dealing with knife eared wankers? I’ll take the dragons.

[@dragonlordwarcraagthewise1747]

But the treaty of elves and dragons long ago by the hero eragon

[@nathangamble125]

Of course! How could Shad forget? What about DRAGONS?

[@Geeko170]

Dragon Lord Warcraag The Wise Is a work of propaganda to try and scare us Humans into being their lessers. It is time for humanity to rise up and over through those stuck up knife eared bastards!

[@dragonlordwarcraagthewise1747]

Geeko170 I'm afraid it is not propaganda as I have known the elves for many generations I would suggest not to attack the elves

[@KingOpenReview]

Elf: O_O *slowly puts on hood covering ears.*

[@Onii_Chan184]

Killing Elves? All I need is Talos and Wuuthrad in my hand, I fear no ELVES?!

[@pelinalwhitestrake1677]

"Hold my elven face meat mace"

[@lukec2004]

*Pelinal liked that*

[@danny_decheeto8300]

what reference is that from?

[@joxbarros5054]

The Thalmor disagree with that.

[@Aethuviel]

@@danny_decheeto8300 Skyrim/Elder Scrolls

[@terrorcop101]

Elves, "Sometimes I just want to punch them in their perfect teeth."

[@Scorpion2lol]

Why do you want to do this Because you said you wanted to punch me in my teeth

[@rhett5058]

Exactly

[@camfalafranca800]

The youtuber runesmith said it best in regards to DnD "they're planer cockroaches"

[@PvtIndi]

"I understood that reference."

[@Bluesonofman]

Guns

[@grimsunrise8561]

You don't need no sword, shield, or axe. All you need is a D20.

[@razelostein9558]

Natural 20 will be better

[@Undomaranel]

With a D20 I still roll 1s more than 10% of the time, as improbable as that is.

[@blackmephistopheles2273]

@Grim The Sun Warrior "All you need is a D20." 'Cause that's how you roll? ;p

[@HawlyPQD]

So the way to defeat elves is by outnumbering them with cheap units and outbreeding them? Humans are to elves what the skaven are to humans.

[@MultiEpicnezz]

then what are skaven to elves?

[@maximelozach9502]

Skaven ?

[@kaorn7419]

Skaven^2

[@denishrg9843]

@@maximelozach9502 Skave =What if rattatouille was a dark fantasy and humans were the ingredients

[@thatonecunningskaven7154]

HAHAHAHA, FEAR US YOU WEAK-WEAK SURFACE-THINGS, YES-YES!

[@maltehoffmann2914]

Well, you can also go for technology, in Skyrim the Thalmor were pretty screwed when my boys showed up with muskets

[@BirdTurdMemes]

lol what?

[@leavemealone930]

"Damn knife-ears..."

[@patrickkilroy6512]

Set up the human breeding grounds! We’ll get those elves! I’m willing to make the brave sacrifice of mating 100 times in a day if needs be!

[@555sarin]

Too late, the orc gets to them first.

[@adamred5449]

same with me

[@corwinhyatt519]

I'd be laughing if it weren't for the "100 times in a day" part. You'd be dead in under a week.

[@gamestory2834]

Shad didn't even consider it further, like taking elf men and women as prisoners of war and forcibly breed them with humans, creating half-elves that would be indoctrinated to hate elves. Though that's obviously in a longer perspective and not all fiction has humans and elves being able to produce a viable offspring. Still they usually mature as fast as humans and they gain some of the traits of elves and would greatly diversify the human troops. Might cause social problems though, depending on humans' attitudes to elves.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

I know an universe where a race of elves on the brink of extinction survive by breeding with human females captives, creating a new race of half-elves. Thus, they overcome they best disadvantage, but they never go to war again.

[@matthewmuir8884]

Interesting video, Shad. The one big risk I see with the axe and shield idea is that the elves, if they know they're weaker but have better reflexes, will likely prefer to do a deflectional parry rather than a block, and, if they do, axes are more difficult to bring back into position than swords are; giving them time to attack while you're trying to bring your axe back into position.

[@brokenursa9986]

That's why you have the shield. Viking-era warriors fought in much the same way, and they learned to use their shields very dynamically to account for the slow recovery time of their axes and swords. They would also attack in such a way that the opponent almost always had the shield in their face so as to prevent a counter attack.

[@strawman5300]

Matthew St. Cyr use a montante against them. Make a attack cirkel. If they get up close the eather lose ther hand ore head

[@matthewmuir8884]

Strawman I like the montante idea, though one would then want plate armour to protect against arrows.

[@kyomademon453]

@@matthewmuir8884 but if you have plate and they better reflexes and aim, what assures you they wont shoot you throu the gaps, an arrow to the eye worst way to go

[@josephdedrick9337]

wear your visored helm then, the only real records we have are of people getting shot in the eye with the visor up

[@ringthatbell9597]

3:27 I thought he was going to say “that the can be huge pricks”

[@Avexle]

So the biggest advantage Humanity has over Elves, especially the OG/OP Elves, is that Elvish society is functionally stagnant. They reached a peak millenia ago and haven't improved a dot since, sure they have beautiful lands and equisitive swords, they might well have perfected Medieval era technology. But therein lies the problem, Elves haven't advanced - they've had MORE than enough time to push past the Medieval era and despite this they haven't done so. This in my opinion, could be cultural, they live so long that they can't pull themselves from the habits and cultures they've become ingrained in, they're the big fish in a very small pond. Humanity though? we live and die constantly - we improve every generation that passes. Tens of thousands of years ago, Humans would have been monkeys, watching forlonly as the Elves dominated the world, thousands of years later and we've adapted - our metal work isn't Elvish but it's damn good - our numbers eclipse them but we don't live as long, to us they're still perfect beings. But then, we reach that peak, the peak that Elves refuse to pass. Whilst the Elves pat themselves on the back for another set of Myhtril armour, a Man creates the first flying machine. Whilst the Elves craft fine, woven silk - soft it would bring tears to your eyes, a Man ignites the industrial revolution. Whilst the Elves tend to fruits and plants we've barely even heard of, a Man splits the atom. And before you know it, the Elves are cloistered, holed up in small parses of land where they can convince themselves of there continued superiority. They have spent millenia looking down on Men, and from this moment, till the end of time, they will spend millenia looking up - as man leaves the planet in search of more than Elves could ever fathom. TL;DR Humanity is in a constant process of evolution, Elves aren't, they may beat us with blades, but how long can they continue to beat us before someone, somewhere, invents a gun?

[@Hektols]

For the very same reasons you pointed, most fantasy worlds are trapped in a medieval stasis, where hundreds of years pass without any important innovation in science, with societies not changing at all. It's the only way there could be a balance among races.

[@MrMarinus18]

Indeed. It would indeed be so that elf society and technology would be completely evolutionary and never revolutionary. They would perfect ancient craft and not adopt new ones. Especially not ones that threaten the status-quo. This is actually what happened in China. Their massive size, population and resources made them virtually immune to danger. They also had an extremely stable social structure which could survive massive blows and brought great peace. However this made them incredibly conservative and isolationist which allowed the more adventurous and dynamic Europeans to outpace them technologically. Europe was violent so they couldn't turn their back on the world, they had to keep pace with the others. When new technology or practices demand they compromise on their values they did so as refusing to compromise their values could easily have them be destroyed outright by conquest. The Chinese were for centuries farmers and they had greatly idealized that. So even though industry like oil, coal and even primitive factories popped up in China they never were allowed to outpace the farm output and make China a net importer of food like the European nations. Their insistence on this also meant merchants were held down as they were seen as not producing anything for the nation. This left China's trade system to be quite inefficient and kept it small scale as merchants did not have the resources for massive trade networks. In Europe the governments supported trade and created several subsidized trade companies to make sure their merchants had the resources needed for long distance trade and to drive cost down by economy of scale. These public companies were eventually replaced with private ones but without them private companies wouldn't have been able to pop up. You can't take over an economic sector that doesn't exist. The Chinese did actually try somewhat at this with Chen He's treasure fleet and it was a massive boon to China's trade and it greatly increased China's influence in all the regions of East-Asia. However the growing power of the merchants and soldiers and the increasing importance of power and influence over Chinese values of loyalty and family working made them clamp down on it. Many still wonder what could have been if China had proceeded with the treasure fleet. At the time they had an amount of resources and population no European nation could even come close to and technologically they were mostly on par to even slightly superior. However after the destruction of the treasure fleet the Europeans spend the next 2,5 centuries perfecting the art of sailing and boat building as they competed in trade and war. The elves wouldn't keep their superiority complex though and they would face a similar fate to China. A rude awakening by one of the human kingdoms who utterly decimates and humiliates them and takes what they want. China for a long time also felt itself superior to all other kingdoms and when the British tried to open trade the Chinese treated it as tribute and just took the political trade goods without giving anything back.

[@barrylyndon5552]

Fantasy elves, well the tolkien archetype, are intrinsically connected to nature at a very fundamental level. Man if he never left Eden so to speak. It is against their nature to try to be above nature, merely a part of it. Whereas humans ate the fruit of knowledge, lost our semi divinity but gained the ability to advance and dominate nature. Without the religious connotations it sounds like a pretty unfair trade because of course we will surpass their silly little op gifts at some point

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@barrylyndon5552 Surely the intelligent, efficient Elves would see humans advancing and also take note of this as well, wouldn't they?

[@donutlovingwerewolf8837]

@@thalmoragent9344 They're too snobby, perfect, and "noble" to even notice humanity is doing something in the first place let alone realize centuries have passed and humanity has elves outnumbered 10 to 2 and are able to mow down hundreds of elves in mere seconds, Hell thousands if not millions of elves will be evaporated from our nukes

[@therealkillerb7643]

Personally, I recommend napalm against Elves. It destroys their cover (the tree hugging, pointy eared hippies) as well as does grievous bodily harm. What, Shad was talking about "Medieval" weapons? Well, to most people, WWI is ancient history. Napalm was used in WWII which would qualify it as being between ancient history and modern history. Therefore, WWII IS "medieval" and is a perfectly appropriate weapon's system. Ok, I am watching this really early in the morning and that was WAY funnier in my head. The voices were cracking themselves up... ;-)

[@genobreaker1054]

Still had flaming pitch, pots of burning oil, etc.

[@alasiadarthe001actual9]

Highly agree. You could use a liquid fire magic in fantasy settings. Besides Napalm is soap and gasoline so its entirely possible to create. it would just require some alchemy or magic.

[@CosmicG777]

A WWI or a WWII setting in Fantasy would be a pretty cool game idea. And why not? There's already Shadowrun, a cyber-punk fantasy.

[@joshuahadams]

CosmicG777 The Saga of Tanya the Evil? m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/onSzl2yJdpmgnbc

[@joelsasmad]

Wouldn't the local monsters living in the forest come after you? Especially the dyads and fey?

[@Tobbs96]

I remember reading in a story somewhere of dark elves (granted, not regular elves) who had planned to conquer mankind for centuries in revenge for some slight or another. Unfortunately, the elves had been planning this so long in secret that the humans had invented firearms while they were gone, and when the elves launched their invasion, they were promptly gunned down en masse.

[@vanderwallstronghold8905]

Noice!

[@DC-hw7fw]

That's pretty funny, tbh.

[@TheDeinonychus]

"Elves aren't monsters." Oh, I'd like to disagree on that point...

[@Scorpion2lol]

Exactly im not a monster

[@SirCrabthe1st]

Elves may not be monsters, but they're pretentious pointy eared pricks.

[@KCGabe]

That scream won me as a subscriber. But you need more MACHICOLATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS

[@ShieldWife]

I love these videos Shad :D Ironically enough, I think that an effective weapon against elves would be a longbow. If elves are weaker than humans, then their bows will have a weaker draw weight and possibly a lower range. Weaker elves would be less likely to wear heavy armor, especially since that heavy armor might impede their super dexterity. If they have less endurance, they are also less likely to wear heavy armor as it would tire them out. So without heavy armor (maybe less likely to have big shields too) the elves would be more vulnerable to arrows and less able to be as lethal with arrows too - despite D&D archery rules. Arrows also allow humans to attack elves who might be fleeing or maneuvering - which would be an issue with an extremely fast foe like elves. I think that humans fighting elves would be wise to wear armor. Elves would be worse in armor because of lower strength and/or constitution and if they wore it would be giving up their super dexterity more than humans. The more heavily armored the combat, in general, the more strength and constitution matter than dexterity. In a fencing match, dexterity is king and strength or constitution matter very little. In a fight between two men in full plate, dexterity matters far less and the strength/constitution become more key factors. I think that even if we use Tolkien elves who are superior in nearly every regard, these two tactics could help balance things. If Tolkien elves still only have a strength that is similar to humans' but have only half of the archers, then a long bow exchange would still favor the humans.

[@joelsasmad]

Arrows would work in large groups in an even battlefield but a single archer would be hard pressed to actually hit a super agility target without complete surprise, which would be hard to get in the first place due to their superior senses. If you are fighting them in the forest trees foilage could provide natural cover and camouflage that they would know how to use better than you and break up formations so you could not 300 style fill the sky with arrows. You could burn the forest but that is liable to puss off monsters living there that again they would know the locations and habits of to use against you. Going back to the super senses and agility they would be masters of guerrilla combat. (And most likely use magic to make up for their draw range which would make them have even greater firing range with their greater sight. But then again magic changes everything.)

[@ShieldWife]

Yeah, single archer vs single archer may well be an advantage for the elf. Depending on the attribute differences. Forest combat would prevent the human bows from outranging the elven ones, but also keep in mind that a forest attack also puts the elves into close range with humans who are likely stronger, tougher, and more heavily armored. Sure, if we have elves who are wilderness experts and the stage a sneak attack on a human army passing through the forest, it would be a huge advantage for the elves. Then again, you give any force a home field advantage combined with an ambush and they're likely to win. If you had forest humans ambush high elves passing through a forest and they would likely win as well. They could get in close and the woods would obscure elven heightened sight, they could quickly close and get into hand to hand combat where stronger and more heavily armored humans would excel. There would be less room for the city elves to run around and maneuver, thus mitigating the dexterity and speed advantage. A forest is a good place for an ambush, especially if you're specialized in fighting there. That goes for any race/species. Though forest combat is relatively rare historically - Teutoburg Forest being an exception if a good example of a forest ambush. I don't think we can bring up magic or forest monsters, then its not elves vs humans anymore.

[@Napoleonic_S]

How about Chinese ancient self repeating crossbow? Or hand grenade? Too antique? XD OK, how about byzantine medieval Greek fire? Or back to antiquity, hm... Macedonian sarissa spear in phalanx formation? These medieval fantasy fictions lack historical imagination IMO, I mean looking at history as a whole.

[@ShieldWife]

I don't think that the repeating crossbow has the range or killing ability to make it an effective weapon of war. I'm not sure about Greek Fire. It would have it's uses but I don't know if it would be particularly effective against elves.

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

Joel Sasmad a crossbow would likely have an easier time hitting an agile target i imagine?

[@riccardolaghi6680]

Sauron approveves this video.

[@Merecir]

But then he remembers Fingolfin and retracts that thumbs up.

[@MT-kx7ff]

Merecir Wait didn't he fight Morgoth? (Still funny, though! I got a good chuckle).

[@Merecir]

Sure, and I bet that Sauron was one of those that fled in terror thinking Oromë had come.

[@DJB3lfry]

As far as stamina in tabletop games go, I like to view hitpoints as a representation of a character's stamina/ability to fight. Whenever my players lose hitpoints, if it's not a massive hit to their HP, I usually describe it as them still reeling from the force of blocking something with their shield, or barely dodging a lethal stroke - things that will wear down on a person as the fight goes on. When they take a heavy hit, it's usually the result of an actual wounding. When their HP hits 0, that's when the enemy finally manged to connect a powerful strike, overcoming the character's remaining stamina and incapacitating them. This also makes health potions seem less OP, since they're not usually sealing up massive gashes or other major wounds, but rather rejuvenating a person's energy and ability to defend themselves.

[@donashcroft93]

I'm so glad you pointed out numbers shad, the biggest weakness of elves is they breed very slowly in most fantasy settings, humans usually greatly outnumber most of the humanoids (apart from things like goblins, kobolds and halflings)

[@AlosMaudi]

How to defeat elves? Make love not war.. And THEN do the war thing hahaha awesome video

[@Czakaronek]

We can always improove the "man catcher" to "elf catcher". Maybe add some sort of a repellant, a dwarf piss for example. :-)

[@sherrigofdenmark2823]

Elves would wiggle out of the contraption as a worm wiggles through a small crevice. Only sure way to kill them is by CUTTING THEM DOWN LIKE A FOREST OF SKINNY TREES WITH A GLORIOUS AXE OF PURE NORDIC STEEEEEL!!!

[@k-blrrboi9488]

Elf: Is this!? Jarate!??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@christopherlibrary9265]

I know that in the Inheritance series (Eregon), Elves are a category of superhuman that would absolutely qualify you for "Hero" status if you could defeat one. Essentially, if you don't have numerous magic-users on your side, you need to vastly outnumber them and expect very heavy losses.

[@ethanholloway6962]

i love these videos, there is always interesting things i have never thought of for fantasy.

[@corazzinatanner498]

Alright, who wants to see a film or graphic novel set to the premise of the Magnificent Seven, but made up of Metatron, Matt Easton, Lindybeige, Shad, Knight Erryant, Knight Squire, and Skall.

[@shadiversity]

I'd pay to see that ^_^

[@corazzinatanner498]

@@shadiversity So would I Sir, so would I.

[@corazzinatanner498]

@@shadiversity of course it would have to be medieval themed and the best part is yall have the accents to pull it off.

[@chaptermastertushan3576]

Can someone make this a thing?

[@Hopeofmen]

I'd watch it.

[@PauloGarcia-sp5ws]

Just outbreed them. It'll be like Stalingrad in the movies, just send endless tides of noob knights and footmen 2 overwhelm them. They can't out birth rate humans so you will be fine

[@bundlesofjoe]

Our only hope is that they kill so many of us that they become slightly depressed.

[@albertonishiyama1980]

Zerg Rush the elves!

[@DeadMarine1980]

Kinda like in Total War.

[@hydrogenone6866]

So basically go Warhammer 40K on them. They'll drown in human blood.

[@Brugar18]

or like 300

[@Spacethecorruptor]

Shad, I would like to thank you for the recommendation of the DragonLance series. I have about finished all of the material I could find. Great series.

[@kdavidsmith1]

If I remember correctly, some versions of Elves are fataly allergic to iron.

[@josefstalin9678]

Think that's in maleficent where iron burns their skin the same way the sun would burn a vampire

[@kdavidsmith1]

@@josefstalin9678 the iron thing is pretty old and probably as old as the original is fairy tales.

[@hiperboreo10101]

What about bringing a lightsabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ?

[@Heroesflorian]

@Srithor: Good one! :D Also, I just remembered the Sacred 1's ice elves who in fact *did* wield and use lightsabers, as well as light...whips? in combat. Hmm... (For some exemplaric screenshot footage, e.g. check out pctalk.info/Games/Sacred2/Wolfes.Lair/SacredUnderworld/Pages/PopularHG-IcePlains.html or use google image search.)

[@thenatundi9009]

18:00 that makes a lot of sense as for why elves tend to stay out of conflicts whenever they are in a book where a war is going on (Lord of the Rings, Eragon, etc).

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

Well they where leaving middle earth besides they been saving the world to many times.

[@kyomademon453]

In lord of the rings the elves spent around 6000 years at war with morgoth/sauron, the book takes place after they are already leaving middle earth

[@halodude727]

Best way to fight the elves? MAKE MORE HUMANS!!!

[@Scorpion2lol]

Fuck you 🖕

[@m4sherman926]

@@Scorpion2lol what did he do to you?

[@GinnyFan765]

0:02 One of my favorite KZbinrs sponsored by one of my favorite things ever? (Middle-earth) Sign me up!!! Also that whole intro was just priceless. xD

[@daltoncook209]

I need to homebrew a campaign with this series in mind

[@crapwithanopinion2919]

WHAT ABOUT DRAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *passes out and falls to the floor*

[@louisbabycos106]

What about Drago. The big Russian.

[@aneasteregg8171]

You were slain by a flower?

[@shardinhand1243]

you mean floor?

[@shardinhand1243]

ether way nice comment man funny ^^

[@orkokts]

Nah he meant flour.

[@mitchellstry9048]

Shad: Their biggest weakness is numbers. If we throw enough numbers at them they would be overwhelmed. Soviet Russia: This looks like a job for me.

[@DawsonWebster]

Shad: If humans are stronger you need to find a weapon to utilize that Me: AXES!!!!! Shad: This would bring us to Axes and Maces, and Axes are more deadly than maces so I'd say Axes Me: HeRe Be AxEs!!!

[@geordierobinson2315]

BREAK THE PONCY GITS.

[@tigershark8867]

A pommel throw can easily demolish an elf.

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

Tigershark88 or T Rex 1000 pommel through destroys everything

[@vanderwallstronghold8905]

What if elves use pommels too?

[@tigershark8867]

@@vanderwallstronghold8905 Depends on how many pommels they have. If you have more pommels than them, you've automatically won the fight.

[@eco2364]

@@vanderwallstronghold8905 They're heathens, so they make UN-REMOVABLE POMMELS.

[@masonponton3077]

LOL intro!!!! Great one Shad love this series! Very funny!!

[@kingwolf9447]

Would modern weapons (Guns) be able to defeat elves? Would you need an anti material caliber,or just pistol caliber?

[@battleshiparmorlord]

That LOTR sponsor is SPOT ON for your channel Shad! I think I'm going to spend that 8$ and see what the game is all about, so your message worked on me! First time a sponsor would get me to buy anything they offer.

[@Kromunos]

Its alive.... its ALIVE! ITS ALIVE!

[@Dragonspirit223]

10:03 No, no no no! NOOOO! THE GRAPPLING RULES! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

[@kaynesylvar8277]

Shad, my friend, I too go off on hate rants against elves.

[@cthomaspeasant3059]

The lower breeding rate of Elves is seldom brought up when it's Humans vs Elves and aside from you Shad I think only the Elders Scrolls ever mentions how slowly Elves breed and hell in the Elder Scrolls world Elves (especially the Altmer/High Elves) bread much slower and more selectively which proved to be a problem in a war between Humans and Elves.

[@995cool]

and tolkien

[@DarkLordOfSweden]

Warhammer fantasy do also address this, it actually takes a WHOLE YEAR of fucking before the females gets pregnant

[@albertonishiyama1980]

Well, since they are immortal and the elvish society dont have 100x more people than any of the mortal races... I think its kind of a proof that elfs dont have many childs?

[@dragonlordwarcraagthewise1747]

In ereagon they also don't bread quickly like at all there are two children of elves you see in the entire series

[@matthewmuir8884]

The Witcher series, if I'm not mistaken, mentions the outbreeding strategy as what was used by humans to win the war with the elves many centuries before the story.

[@xirensixseo]

Yknow whats good to fight dwarves and hobbits? Man catchers

[@AgentXA564]

But those are for catching men. How are you going to catch a dwarf with it?

[@mondaysinsanity8193]

AgentXA564 half man catchers of course!

[@xirensixseo]

Half man catchers sound like something used to capture half of all the man, and the rest is to catch half of all the woman

[@AshenDust_]

If they have superior senses use some sort of bright light, loud sound or something that smells really bad

[@TheFoxofShadows]

I like your comments on Stamina in games as I have been designing my own system where you can only fight for a number of rounds equal to your Stamina Rank (it ranges from 1 at the lowest, and 5 at the highest) before having to make an Endurance Roll each round, with the difficulty increasing each time. makes me happy to hear this is something people would like in such games.

[@MT-kx7ff]

I had a wild dream last night that I was an elf in a kingdom overrun by orcs, and the only way for me to survive was to disguise myself as an orc and hope that they would mistake me for one of their own. It backfired and I ended up getting myself publicly executed via disembowlement. Yaaay.

[@Jayce_2624]

you have been watching waaaay to much Shad

[@cratoss.4772]

Disembowelment......you got off pretty easy then.

[@comradebork]

Your dream is essentially what real life is like for a nerd, especially in high school.

[@Scorpion2lol]

I alredy dreamed i was a human

[@matthewmuir8884]

Great video, Shad. Funny enough, if I recall correctly, humans exploiting that they reproduce at a far greater rate than the elves actually appears in the lore of the series The Witcher.

[@palpatine84]

Thanks for letting us know about the new LotR game. I've downloaded it, and it is a lot fun.

[@erikhermansen3431]

I love watching someone in their element, having fun..It's quite obvious you love making these kinds of videos.

[@JediAcolyte94]

Would love to see you talk about using a shield only in combat like what Captain America does or Kar Vastor. Looking forward to the next one, love your content.

[@junichiroyamashita]

I definetly second this

[@LawnMowerProductions]

Whenever I hear your channel name I think of a university that shad (the fish) go to and then I imagine people with shad heads carrying books and stuff, laughing at catfish and carp for going to lower schools. Yah its like 4:00am

[@MiltonRosso]

"It's alive!" LOL you need to do that more often shad

[@siramcoalter8175]

One of the greatest examples of stamina I can recall in fantasy is in Lord of the Rings when the three representatives of their race, Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas -- human, dwarf, and elf respectively-- track the Uruks across Rohan.

[@TheLostArchangel666]

Simple: Diplomacy is the best medieval weapon to employ against elves.

[@AgentXA564]

The best way to kill elves: an army of skeletons. Elves love using bows and skeletons are practically immune to arrows.

[@emilianorios4761]

They also get spooked

[@mikeoxlong1395]

Fuck that, someone should train the skeletons, that's too spooky of a job.

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

Also undead are usually tireless, and he mentioned their stamina being a weakness.

[@alexanderflack566]

Skeletons are usually depicted as moving slowly and predictably, and warbows are perfectly capable of severing a spinal column. Since elves are usually depicted as being good enough archers to hit a target that size reliably, I would suggest using a shield wall instead and trying to force a fight in the open rather than a forest.

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

@@alexanderflack566 "Skeletons are usually depicted as moving slowly and predictably" I have never seen slow moving skeletons. Almost every setting had them be human speed, with the exceptions having them faster. "warbows are perfectly capable of severing a spinal column" Even if you managed that, undead usually come in mass numbers and it depends on the setting whether that would destroy them or reduce them to crawling. In a few they'd put themselves back together, unless it was shattered or the skull was destroyed.

[@twiceborn_by_grace]

This world needs more people like you. You are so cool and funny.

[@gs7358]

Shad, love the Fantasy Re-Armed series, they are all very interesting. When addressing the OP Elves it sounds like you are trying to describe a war of attrition. Prime example is the battle of Stalingrad in WWII, the Russians keep the German forces at bay and from taking the city, and continuing their advance, through the shear numbers of soldiers.

[@libertylarry3224]

Funnily enough the aspect of humans outbreeding elves is a part of the elder scrolls lore. Skyrim was once inhabited by snowelves, then the Humans immigrated and after some time the elves feared being outbred. This led to an event called "the Night of Tears" where the elves slaughtered the humans. Ysgramor and his sons, Yngol and Ylgar, survived and fled to later return with the Companions to wipe the land clean of elves for what they have done.

[@MrMarinus18]

Well humans wouldn't breed more quickly as both races are limited by the availability of food. However the difference is that humans can recover from blows to their population much more quickly. So after a war even if both took the same casualties the humans are back up to strength far quicker. So the humans wouldn't straight up outbreed the elves but if they were in continuous war the humans would eventually displace them. The higher longevity of elves compensates for the higher fertility of humans. This is also so in nature where longevity and fertility balance each other out. However when outside forces come in the more fertile creatures have an advantage. In Skyrim I think there was some kind of large natural disaster that devastated both elf and human populations. However humans recovered from that much more quickly and took over large parts of previously elf land.

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

"the ability of a race to dominate the world depends only on how fast it can produce offsprings and how much it fight. You humans excell at these two things." The withcher, t.4 time of contempt, Andrezj Sapowski Not an accurate translation but here's the idea. Humans are of the most op race of classic fantasy.

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

"Humans are of the most op race of classic fantasy" I strongly disagree. I'd say either undead or demons.

[@lukavidakovic6674]

yeah definetly not humans

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

Orcs would outdo humans, and they by far are not the strongest in this way.

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

There are other races that do breed faster than humans. Goblins, and many kinds of orcs being the most common. But humans have an advantage over these ones. Humans are intelligent, while most Orcs and Goblins are pretty dim, which means humans can fairly easily lure them into traps and ambushes, outmaneuver them, etc. An Orc may be twice as strong as you, but he's also far more likely to fall for the 'look over there' trick.

[@thewhispererindarkness9117]

@@kharnthebetrayer8251 In most settings I've seen goblins are numerous and intelligent (often sneaky with poisoned arrows), but small and weak. More like Warhammer's Night Goblins than their default. Orcs vary wildly by setting. Tolkien ones are extremely numerous and average intelligence, but no stronger than a human. Warhammer ones are really strong and really stupid. But as I said, I don't think orcs are nearly the strongest fantasy race on a grand scale, just one that would outdo humans.

[@spiritvdc5109]

In the science-fantasy series I'm creating, I made an elf-inspired race who fall under the "just as strong as humans but not as sturdy" category, except the approach I took isn't that they have less "constitution", but that their bodies evolved to be almost catlike or birdlike, with hollow bones and a strength-to-mass ratio built for quick bursts of movement, so while they are just as strong as humans, their catlike physiology can't take a hit nearly as well as the solid-boned humans (which I also elaborated into their culture as a reason why they're so good at medicine, being a race who get injured more easily if their precision reflexes are ill-timed or if they take a sharp fall or something)

[@enyosnow1834]

"It's ALIVE" hahaha nice 😂

[@barrybend7189]

Best weapon against elves......... MACHICULATIONS!!!!!

[@orkokts]

Personal Machiculation Launcher.

[@truefanforum3273]

Barry Bend Dang it, you beat me to it. Well played.

[@johannageisel5390]

Dragons are better against dwarves.

[@ls200076]

@@johannageisel5390 But dwarves are our friends, they give us tech and resources.

[@johannageisel5390]

@@ls200076 Nah, they stole my shiny white jewels!

[@infernalone666]

thinking about the capabilities of Tolkien elves, it's heavily implied that they were of similar strength to humans - but perhaps a bit weaker. If you read the story of Turin, he was able to overpower the elf Saeros alone, even after being surprised. Beren was also able to leap up and pull Curufin off of a horse and then start choking him out. Tuor was able to take down Maeglin and throw him off a cliffside, so I think humans are quite capable of overpowering a Tolkien elf hand to hand. also, it seemed that Tolkien elves used bows for their preference towards guerilla warfare - in fact, oftentimes the elves came to great disaster when resorting to open combat. this is a bit of speculation, but considering the birth years of some elves mentioned in Tolkien's world and the idea that every time the elves get trashed in wars, they never seem to recover, I think his elves had a very low fertility rate. Feanor was an exception probably due to his impatient nature, but you never really see elf families having more than 3 children It's also never implied that elves are inherently faster than humans. There was only those times in The Hobbit where they vanished without a trace, but I put that more to the lighthearted and whimsical nature of the story.

[@TheUnnbreakable]

I like how you mentioned numbers as elves are usually smaller in numbers but if going with Token elves they are truly immortal as they can chose to leave their heaven islands and come back

[@ThibautVDP]

"hey baby, wanna help the war effort? ;)"

[@alexp5461]

But Shad . . . what if they have dragons?

[@JohnSmith-kx8yh]

"But...There is one they fear. In their tongue he is Dovahkiin...FUS RO DAH

[@kevinlobos5519]

rip

[@joshuahadams]

John Smith *GOL HA DOV!*

[@water9892]

@@JohnSmith-kx8yh nice

[@kidwithcards2390]

ZII-LOS DI DU

[@momqabt]

How to fight an elven army? Siege weapons. Elves usually don't inovate. Elves are better at range? Ballistas and trebuchets. Elves have bows? Use paveze and crossbows. Elves are more skilled in melee? Overrun...like the Imperium of mankind in 40k. The enemy may be better equipped, better trained and better in almost every regard, but if you drown them in billions of bayonets, they're gonna lose...plus basilisks, hellstrike missiles, mortars and ofc ye ol' leman russ tanks

[@edgarvillalobos1251]

You forgot pummels to end 'em rightly!

[@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870]

Basically do what the dwarfs do in Lord of the Rings.

[@momqabt]

@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 die in Moria?😂

[@Merecir]

Depends on the type of elves you are fighting, if they are like the Noldor at the height of their power they will wade through anything humans can throw at them.

[@momqabt]

@@Merecir well it then also depends on the development of technology. If we're looking at the migration era then yeah, pretty much everyone is fucked. If we're looking at the death of sauron era then no they would be demolished in an open battle. A Warhammer fantasy style dark elf paveze crossbow testudo under the protection of siege weapon fire combined with carefully laid ignitable traps would fuck the elves...if they didn't have magic. Now if there is magic, the opponent should also have some form of mistic power availability. Because if not, then again, humanity is fucked. But by that time, the elves magic was waining so even if it would be present, it wouldn't be as powerful. So, to reiterate: a testudo with artillery fire accompanied by spearmen, sword and board infantry, supported by cav, even missile cav with bows or crossbows, light cav for distraction yata-yata. The elves could be outmanoeuvred and outnumbered. For backup I'd leave a platoon or two of archers behind to protect the artillery from unforseen bird allies of the elves. Against the trees, burning pitch and ropes work perfectly in conjunction with Dane axes. And let the elves get shsiskebabed in shield and short spear infantry. Any formation that tries to be a hero and charge ahead breaking formation would have shot dead. Bring in the reserve.

[@johnnyappleseed79]

Been waiting for this game, didnt realize it was out yet

[@medramonmasquedecendres2966]

Yohoo Shad, great video again. I have a question: will you do a video about the besty weapon for cat-folks? Tabaxi, Khajit, Leonin, all that stuff? Kepp the good work mister, always a pleasure :D .

[@sizanogreen9900]

Loving this kind of videos:) I hope there will be more of fantasy re-armed in the future.

[@dannymarashi]

Wonderful look and take on this subject, I will definitely ask our DM if including this in the campaign will be to his liking. Beyond this, I think the combatants setup and armour is likely to be their saving grace against the elves here too. While a shield would be handy, I think more so in this case, it’s made more important, and I think you’re right when it comes to grappling with them, that even in the case of an elf being as strong and have as much endurance, grappling with them and closing the distance is still preferable to the alternative. Let them use a rondel dagger to really seal the deal once they close the distance, and if you want to be particularly brutish, integrate knuckledusters on your gauntlets and hope to your deity that it’s not your day to die.

[@lemursteaks]

“If Someone just outlasts their opponent, then that opponent just loses the ability to fight completely *plopping noise*”. Rome liked that

[@torjones1701]

Thanks for returning to this series! Always something to think about, even if I don't always agree with you. :) A combat system that takes stamina into account? You mean like D&D? Well, it used to anyway. It wasn't viewed as heroic, so was removed after 2e, it was an optional rule for 3.5e, but few gaming groups used it. my recollection of the rule as it existed and might be used today: After each round of combat, make a con check vs DC 4. Even a sickly person should be able to pass that, but there's a possibility of failure of course for those with really low con scores. Each round the DC goes up by 2, so everyone will eventually run out of steam, no matter what. Each failed roll increases your encumbrance and a -1 penalty to rolls so eventually everyone will become combat-ineffective. In 5e, just add a level of "Temporary Exhaustion" and short rest works for temporary exhaustion like long rests work on real exhaustion. (Long rests will also eliminate all temporary exhaustion.) I would also say that for temporary exhaustion, instead of "Death" being #6, make it a point of non-temporary exhaustion with each additional failed check. You can still exhaust yourself to death, but it takes a lot more work this way, and you're still more likely to die from combat wounds than from being too tired to fight. I'm not sure I agree that you could just overwhelm an army of elves, even a small one, with sufficient numbers of your own troops. Experience does count for a LOT, and with each elven soldier have centuries of experience and plenty of time to refine their fighting styles and forms, such an elf would be virtually untouchable on the battlefield. Using D&D as an example again, take a single 20th level fighter and put him against an entire army of 100 5th level fighters, and that lone 20th level fighter will win every time. Add to that the old 2e concept of "time in grade" where you'll just naturally go up in level every 2 years at the very slowest just from getting better at doing what you normally do, and someone who's 300 years old should be around level 150, higher if they actively adventure. Now, it's true that these are all really old game rules, almost as old as I am, and they are only game rules, not really representations of real life, but there is some validity to those representations. If you spend 20 years programming computers, you're quite likely to be a very good programmer (and have some really bad habits too!) and you're likely to know several programming languages, and know quite a bit about the hardware you're programming, etc. If you spend 20 years woodworking, you'll likely be able to build houses, and cabinets, and furniture, and statuary, and quite a bit of other stuff as well, and very fine detail work to boot. You may also know quite a bit about metalworking as there is no small amount of overlap between the two arts. As for fighting, try taking on a grandmaster of any martial arts school as a black belt, just expect to get your ass well and truly kicked, even if you've got 50 of your classmates with you. I do agree that such long lived elves would likely breed slowly and be rather risk-adverse.

[@clitcrusader4897]

Wuuthrad

[@Varlwyll]

This should be the top comment.

[@joelsasmad]

We just need 500 angry vikings

[@PHENOXSPARTAN]

That card game is more alive than me. *Pulls shuriken out of chest*

[@plick645]

I was gonna say. Immortal enemies, perhaps the best tactic is to parlay. They'll probably be in a parlay with you well past your natural death.

[@TerraBooma]

Regarding the duel wielding thing, I think I've actually read a fiction series of all things that sort of touches on it. In the Rangers Apprentice series, the main character is learning a sort of dual wielding defense thing, and he asks his mentor about what to do if he comes up against people with axes. The mentor says essentially to just nope out of there, because that's not a fight your going to win.