Best Midi Guitars, let's compare... [Jamstik Studio, Artiphon Instrument 1, Jammy]

[@seandaniel23]

Let’s be real, the best midi guitar is whichever one is in Patrick’s hands.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

You are TOO KIND my friend!! 🙌

[@Ratman1278-r2x]

It’s the best

[@funkmaster322]

you guys need a room?

[@Rex-golf_player810]

​@@funkmaster322 nah let it all out

[@sethhatlelid3135]

I bought a Jamstick midi guitar about two weeks ago and it's... insane... just an amazing piece of kit. I am loving every minute of it. As a bass player of many years who wanted to learn guitar during covid, I have been playing guitar for about two years and the fretboard of the jam stick feels MUCH better than my epiphone or my luna. Just so much fun.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Glad to hear that Seth. Thanks for sharing!

[@AntonioBrandao]

I own a Jamstick guitar (for 3 years now), and I don't like it very much, it's really hard to reach a balance of sensitivity. If I increase sensitivity enough to play comfortably, it will "detect" a lot of false notes. Usually after recording a passage I have to clean out a lot of wrong notes. It wouldn't work for a live session at all. Even with the latest firmware updates up to 2023. It doesn't deal very well with empty strings either. It does single chords pretty well, but arpeggios not so much, especially arpeggios involving empty strings. I feel this real-strings + midi pickup format doesn't work very well, and suspect the Artiphone, in it's plastic cheapness, will be more accurate (MIDI-notes wise). I bought the Jamstick instead of the Artiphone and kinda regret it now, after 3 years I'm eyeing the Artiphone again. The Jamstick although being a real guitar too, isn't a great one at that. It's pretty, but the strings feel a bit loose.

[@YouzTube99]

The Artiphon Instrument 1 has a built in rechargeable battery that cannot be replaced, so . . . that's a consideration.

[@erifeon]

just hack it mate.

[@unsoundmethodology]

Some nice devices! I've got a peculiar MIDI guitar - it's a Rock Band 3 controller, the "Fender Wireless Mustang Guitar Controller". See, Rock Band was trying to compete with Guitar Hero, and decided that what they needed was more kinds of toy instruments. So they made keyboards and drum kits and such, and in addition to a real guitar that also sent game commands, they made this plastic one: velocity-sensitive, strummable strings and, much like the Artiphon, buttons for each fret position. The keyboard and this guitar have old-style 5-pin circular MIDI jacks, so you need a USB adapter to plug it into a computer, but in exchange you can plug it straight into old synths. It's surprisingly powerful and expressive.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

WOAH........ That is crazy. I might need to get my hands on one and test it out. Thanks for sharing! I had no idea these existed!

[@OM9012-j7y]

I also have one and it's a beast!! The only downside is that it doesn't have an expression joystick . It can be remedied if you have an expression pedal or a breath controller

[@unsoundmethodology]

@@OM9012-j7y Yeah - fortunate that it does have an expression pedal jack. (I know there's some weird CC stuff you can have it send based on accelerometer readings, but I can never remember them when they'd do any good.)

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

I do like mine, my main complaint is that the "strings" that you pluck don't always register right. I kinda wish I could swap em out for something more like the instrument 1's "strings" but the modding community for these things is pretty small

[@valley_robot]

Yeah,I been looking for one for years now ,awesome piece of kit

[@autokrohne]

Godin has been making midi guitars for decades. They do cost more than the jam stick, but they are excellent instruments for the Money.

[@RyoCanCan]

That Artiphon looks like something I'd want for sure. Great vid!

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

If you have $20,000 to spare, there's also the SynthAxe from the 80s. If I remember correctly, less than a thousand were made, and it was incredible.

[@Ratman1278-r2x]

Cool

[@Frozirra]

Or 650$ ish for starr labs baby Z or like a couple k for a z tar

[@kaustik185]

Pretty sure FutureMan Wooten bought the remaining stock lol

[@littlesnowflakepunk855]

@@kaustik185 Pretty sure he only has the one, but could be.

[@kaustik185]

​@@littlesnowflakepunk855 just joking around. definitely possible tho :D

[@Floydandsome]

8:29 We need the full of version of this Sounds awesome!

[@Frozirra]

Why no starr labs baby Z? It has the best of both worlds, buttons for the frets and strings so it’s low latency like the artiphon, 24 frets so you can do some hella dope metal riffs that you can’t play on the artiphon. Oh and it has knobs that can control cc’s.

[@reneeteller]

Omg!!! I was hoping you would do a video on this. THANK YOU

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

❤❤

[@Rockmonix]

What you were playing first on Instrument 1 @0:55 was slick 👍

[@CodClip]

What’s that little lick played at 9:30 called? I know I’ve heard it before

[@stevenbrown5695]

Best tracking I have felt,Casio 380 guitar.

[@chrislaarman7532]

Thank you for sharing! :-) More or less doubling the comment by trusstingod: this comparison would have been even more complete when you would have included at least a reference to the Roland approach: sending the signals of the individual strings through the "13-pin" cable to devices like the Roland GR-55 or the Boss SY-1000 for processing. The source would be either Roland's GK-3 pick-up or a guitar with that built in, like some models by Godin. I admit: that's "MIDI ready" rather than "MIDI", and this approach does come at a price! (There is at least another approach to a MIDI guitar, but I'll need another rare mailing from this Irish guy to get the name of this thing back into my memory.) Me, I have two Godins and matching synthesizers (though I bought the second one just for its piëzo "acoustic" sound) and the Jamstik Studio. With hindsight, I'd liked the Jamstik Studio feature more controls: more like the Godins, or maybe the Line 6 Variax. - And I'm about to order the Instrument 1. Sidebar: this comparison might inspire others to do a similar video on wind controllers. (I'm not the right person to do so.)

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

I'll check this out for a future video! Thank you!

[@chrislaarman7532]

@@LeeGee I am not currently using my Godin guitars for MIDI, due to circumstances. For 13-pin connections I have a Boss SY-1000, a Roland GR-55 and a GR-30.

[@TrippyOriginals]

There's also the option of MIDI pickup's Roland makes a few, you can get them for cheaper.

[@ajohnsonstudio]

I absolutely love my Jamstik Studio guitar....I've been playing my modular synth rig with it lately =D

[@molotulo8808]

I love my Casio DG20 Digital Guitar.

[@zenbits8839]

Thanks! Peace,Love, Hemp and Bamboo!

[@barry3834]

9:25 did you just come up with that or is it from a song? It sounds so nice

[@KristosMenfes]

seems like these guitars would most suited to melodies and solos and getting hybrid sounds

[@obliquetortoise6980]

3:33 mad church vibes

[@voinrazuma]

Can you show some tapping, slides, palm muting or chords in a midi recording with a jamstik? I do not really believe that it works. Thank you in advance.

[@TProStudioCreate]

I never even knew these were a thing, those look fricken cool! Thanks for the awesome video man!

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

My pleasure, my friend. Thanks for watching!

[@leonskum.5682]

Me neither!

[@michaeldurham2751]

Can u plug it into garage band and get sick sounds

[@morgan8937]

Hi, Where can I get that pluck sound at 1.00 in? Or is it a stock preset that comes with accompanying software? Idk where to get plucks from! Enjoyed your newJamstick classic midi guitar vid too, TY!

[@stuartmiller8175]

No mention of latency? I used to have Roland Midi guitar system. Latency and variable trigger sensitivity were too much to make it practical for me. Any of these guitars solve these problems?

[@hazelvoice6125]

This is what I was hoping to learn, disappointed this wasn't discussed.

[@Arbi5577]

Also what I was looking for. Everyone seems to leave out latency. Was hoping for a solution that was fast and reliable enough for playing live synths.

[@valley_robot]

Latency is down to your pc ,use a sound card ,zero latency

[@juniorbirdman4650]

@@valley_robot No this is bullshit. The process of converting the signal from a vibrating string into all of the midi information can add latency. Due to the more continuous nature of the signal that you can get out of an electric guitar vs a keyboard for example, pickups/hardware that convert analogue signal to midi have typically had very bad latency issues.

[@valley_robot]

@@juniorbirdman4650 OK, I should have said you will get less latency, it's never going to be zero your right

[@ohnoitsnotjoe]

Saw you through an ad I’m subbing nice video man

[@frankcoble4052]

The jammy would fit in your carryon luggage. I'm sold. Prove me wrong

[@encapsulatio]

You did not review Jammy EVO....when will you review it?

[@chrism3931]

PLEASE COMMENT ON LATENCY

[@samueledwardstone7261]

Could you hook up like 3 of these into a single daw session? I want to start a midi band.

[@Artiphon]

Thank you so much for this STELLAR review on the INSTRUMENT 1! 🙌🤩

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

The pleasure was mine! Thanks for making such an awesome instrument!

[@SlyHikari03]

I own a jamstik and love it.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Nice! Thanks for sharing! What color??

[@emont]

good alternatives, what about jazz bass emulation.. what would be the best pick?

[@mattbalzano]

Can you use these with guitar pro to transcribe solos while you play?

[@NicoSeven7]

Very useful video, thank you for the info. my friend!!🍻

[@patiencezero1025]

My question is does instrument 1 work good with FL_Mobile, or logic pro for ipad? Idk if my articulation is broken, but you gotta pound the keys on akai mk 3 mini. Big waste of money. Even on desktop the articulation sucks on FL.

[@60secmusic96]

why dont you talk about latency of jammy and of velocity response of it and the midi capabilities?

[@brooke1639]

How do I get to hear the whole track that is playing at @5:45 please.

[@Strielok1988]

Is installing Roland GK3 midi pickup on a normal guitar going to have the same effect? Can I connect such normal guitar with GK3 to midi/usb adapter and then straight to the computer?

[@tymemedia]

Which unit works better for us lefties

[@au5music]

Good reviews!

[@au5music]

@@TEL-EGRAMRETROLOCATIS_Page go away you're not patrick

[@vincelewis8360]

What about latency on all these devices and mistriggers? I have an old roland system with the 13 pin cable, and those are the real issues, do any of these options fix those?

[@saaleh100]

Jammy - does it have a neck thickness like acoutisc I’m new to guitar but want the jammy

[@johannesburgbackpackerslod1237]

Im Interested / But live in JHB In South Africa

[@MHM550]

I want the first one for Christmas

[@punanyologist]

i think a akai mpc play is better than any akai keyboard controller the only difference between a keyboard and a fret board is that the frets arent visible its the same concept all keyboards are made in the likeness of a real acoustic piano but the real piano has a fingerboard inside the box hidden to make sound best to use guitar midi by jam origin its free to try and you can use any guitar with a pick up on it so better to use that before considering buying new gear they are good but not that impressive to me

[@ChadwickRider]

Jamstik with the win.

[@Mr19201966]

How about the Casio mg 510 one of the BEST midii guitars i owe 2 of them if you have one you can get rid of all your guitars Godin. Guitars are good too

[@bamesjond8679]

Love my 510

[@ex-zen]

What about MIDI palm-mute on jamstick? Does it work?

[@NicoSeven7]

Great review, thanks 👍

[@frankbueti5510]

The Brian more, I Guitar high quality guitar with midi built in.

[@Patricola]

Do you know if this midi device in Jamstick could be installed in another guitar? Can i use other sounds from my daw, using my own libraries? I'd like to make my guitar midi without buying a brand new guitar! Thanks! Great video!

[@robertfimbres9628]

Check out the Fishman triple play midi pickup

[@Bobby8270]

Does it have to be plugged in or is it battery charged.

[@kshak3125]

5:42 name of instrumental?

[@Anshul1614]

Thanks I’ve been looking for this for years

[@DedRucktheDuck]

clearly not looking very hard lol

[@wasdwasd12321]

Can you track audio and midi into your daw onto two seperate tracks simultaneously?

[@tomazkobol8348]

Is it works with KETRON SD90 soundmodule? Nice! TOmaz

[@jordon.melodiz426]

Hey Patrick!!! Can you do a video on how the Jamstik tracks with various instruments without editing please :)

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Sure!

[@davidvalens3337]

So Which one is the best one?

[@tuturuturufr]

But can they play soundfonts

[@digitalmaniac9116]

Love this

[@yrop6188]

Is the 20% discount code Patrick 20 still works? Works with Certified Refurbished: B-Stock Jamstik Studio MIDI Guitar?

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

To my knowledge the the discount code does not work with the certified refurbished units. However, my discount does work with any of the other Jamstik midi guitars.

[@yrop6188]

@@PatrickBreenMusic Thanks mate

[@victorblancoarcas]

can I used artiphon whit a hardware synt or only which phone ?

[@SrChalice]

Why is it so hard to get something for bass players.

[@Plastidon]

When the jamstik came out I was really interested in it ,but they put the worst bridge on it . I had a guitar with one of those and it and it’s a joke bridge . Cheap They should have used a hip shot bridge . Went with the triple play instead and happy with it.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Cool! Thanks for sharing!

[@karlmahlmann]

Very informative. Thanks

[@nhuha9436]

Wonderful

[@iddclasses]

Can Instrument 1 be plugged into an amp?

[@thommeinert9072]

Excellent demo Patrick! Thank you! Subbed. Musician Artist-USA-ThomMeinert

[@Arash._.2002]

Good luck 🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@Volp24k]

how these compare to the Fishman triple play?

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

The Jamstik is really the only one that compete with the Fishman Triple play. Personally I think the Jamstik tracks midi better, but the Jamstik is obviously more expensive.

[@AllanGildea]

Dude, your Jamstick studio guitar jam was terrific. Love your music.

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Bro thank you! Appreciate you always showing love!

[@boboxaldo6718]

Does anybody know a guitar midi controller that works without software. I mean a lot of midi keyboards I can just connect to a hardware synth without an app a DAW or the like. The only one I have seen is the sonuus - but it is monophonic and does not really respond well (I have checked it out)... Any alternatives?

[@seaneverett7576]

The Fishman Triple Play Connect worked in my daw right off the bat without any software. It's far better to use the VST provided though to get more customization and features. Without using the VST you can't adjust each strings sensitivity, or switch between mono/poly, adjust pitch bend range, or switch between the pitch/bend modes like auto/trigger/smooth/stepped. The volume adjustment doesn't work either without the plugin. (volume affects overall volume, pluck sensitivity is still there but you can't fine-tune it with the volume knob, you'd be stuck raising or lowering the pickup itself if it's just too much or too soft) There's some other crazy ways to split up the fretboard and map various parts to other virtual instruments but I don't even use that feature (yet lol) I had to disassemble my guitar (being a loaded pick guard) and do some routing work on my pick guard to get it to fit, but successfully installed on an Ibanez Jem. There's just barely enough room to fit the midi pickup between the trem and the first pickup. All the mounting stand-offs were too tall or too short, but once I routed away a spot for it from the pick-guard one of the mounts then worked flawlessly. Haven't gotten to try any alternatives but so far I'm very happy. If you're an extremely fast player though you may have issues with it keeping up, In my experience tho so far and what I play I haven't had issues. I can do some dumb fast hammer-on/pull-offs and make it miss some notes, which is why I mentioned about the potential speed issue. Bought the connect on a whim as it's far cheaper than the wireless version, I don't mind having the USB cable. Beats needing to charge something all the time. I do experience issues using fishmans VST for EXTREMELY long periods of time (like left running in an open DAW for more than a day) But a simple unplug-replug of the USB cable and I'm back in business. Never had any issues with quite a few hours of use when creating something, only when I forget and leave my DAW open and try again a day or two later, but again, a quick unplug-replug right from the micro-usb port attached to my guitar and it's fixed.

[@carlofrancisco5256]

Does the Jamstik have a 13 pin MIDI port?

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

It does not. It has USB or Midi TRS. (TRS to Midi adapter cable included).

Jamstik has no whammy bar, else I would've bought it on the spot.

[@traceyjohnson1046]

so what do you think of the blue lava?

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

I haven't played that one. Looks cool though!

[@leonskum.5682]

Hmm....do they come in lefty?? ..or can you Tune them that way?

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

You can set up Instrument 1 to play lefty. Jamstik sells a lefty version. I can't seem to seem to find a lefty version of Jammy though.

[@markcrowley65]

Thanks

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Thank you for your super thanks Mark! Very kind of you!

[@AMPProf]

Omg you gotta cover chica cherry cola riff

[@obiwankablowme7964]

this man has amazing eyebrows

[@kiillabytez]

Maybe, just maybe if people refrain from buying them for a couple of years, they'll knock 50% off the prices.

[@ACABSTUDIOS]

This is a paid review for jamstick?

[@GaryR55]

I have the Instrument 1, but I wasn't impressed with the build quality.

[@53081church]

Is artiphon out of business? website purchaseing not working??

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Just checked, It should be working fine. What issue are you having?

[@53081church]

chrome browser not working on order page....works on edge browser

[@lifestlc]

WHY DOESN'T THIS HAVE MORE LIKES!???!!!!?!!??? GOOGLE‽‽‽‽ YOU'RE EFFING UP, _BAD_ MAN!!!!!! (Wow... 😳 I don't think I've posted an caps-locked comment since... Early 2000's? On a totally different "KZbin" that we called, "youtube", at the time... Long before google was capitalized AND/OR capitolized... XD)

[@lifestlc]

Geeze, I'm such a nerd... (ಠ_ಠ)>⌐■-■

[@matthewyablonski3400]

Could you have the instrument one trigger samples like vocal samples?

[@bamesjond8679]

You could send midi out to an sp404 sampler that receives midi

[@littlebubble380]

mad katz rock band 3 controller

[@Planet9_music]

Fishman triple play still seems like the simplest without really having a whole other guitar type thing

[@Frozirra]

Yeah just a whole different Roland box that’s going to cost you like 300 or so on top of your new pickups to run your non DIN cables thru. To get din midi…. You get my point

[@Planet9_music]

@@Frozirra not entirely man. I'm kinda new to the guitar to midi solutions. I had an early beta jamstik but didn't like the way it tracked so still using a keyboard for tracking

[@jefflapointe5251]

How did you perceived the guitar for making thing like this with is what i hate and to plug a real instrument in a computer a really think its a Shame so thats what i think of it i Will like to know what you think about so my pleasure

[@PatrickBreenMusic]

Hey Jeff, I'm not sure what you're asking me here...

[@jefflapointe5251]

@@PatrickBreenMusic all what i Said is that i think music should Nevers Been on a computer first and second as a great guitar players like we are i wanted to speak about it to you if you have something to Say that could change m'y mind or juste what you think about it how did you perceived it or anything Else hahaha !!?

[@stewbanker]

@@jefflapointe5251 get your point. You mean that guitar shouldn't be on computers. But well these midi guitars help if you want different sounds on a guitar.

[@stewbanker]

@@jefflapointe5251 and these guitars work without computers I think, so you shouldn't worry lol.

[@midiguitarist4140]

Thanks for the nice comparison - I‘d like to add a Frameworks MIDI guitar which I use in my recent video for playing authentic piano: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqiwnqxma8aAkKs

[@hollownation]

Industrial radio

[@trusstingod]

No Godin. Hmm interesting

[@gwugluud]

The Jammy is a travesty. It's made of brittle plastic, and I managed to break it as I attempted to unlatch the back of the neck in order to tighten up a string, which was too loose to play. I was careful; I know how to treat gear. Now it's basically destroyed, as the neck will not attach securely to the body now. The cheap, ill-thought out build makes it look like something from Grud's Dollar Store And Used Cars. The most woeful waste of money I've ever been raped by.

[@Frozirra]

This is the truth, the Jammy Evo is also shit, and the fuckin design team doesn’t do shit for their product bc they’re feckless Ukrainians. No one liked Zelinsky, just let Putin annex what he wants and make it so it’s even compatible with the app

[@joshgibson539]

And... Jammy is gone.

[@waltdokken2120]

MiDi Guitar🎸 needs Modern Technology🛰 with fretboard micro chip📲 sensors to send precise midi note🎶 when string is pressed same as keyboard 🎹when key is pressed. Plus set of string vibration velocity pickup sensors by the bridge.These impulses will be merged to Midi Polyphonic expression data MPE and sent to Daw delivering 100% laser🚀 accuracy📀.Until then it's just a toy 🎃with inaccurate Ghost notes chase & frustration.🥊 Waste of time n' money🦨.

[@hollownation]

Industrial radio

[@SYCZ]

Let’s call them what they are… keytars

[@shinji1264]

It's insane the flexibility of midi controllers in this era

[@kyuraki]

the first one looks so unsacred, just no