Best "Nefarious" Monologue - You are No Carpenter

[@louthegiantcookie]

But the demon admits that he and his ilk HATE humans. Why would you trust anything this creature said?! Or trust any deal they made?

[@thedeplorable8370]

Sin alone is desirable for us. It will destroy us, but that doesn’t make it less attractive. Demons hate us, cause we can receive forgiveness and return to our Father, but that doesn’t mean they won’t use us for their aims. But make no mistake: you are not favored by the enemy. There is no empathy, no compassion, no love. Demons seek our destruction to only stand against God. Never accept anything from them. They will deliver what they promise, but what is 80-120 years of prosperity to an eternal existence of agony and despair in Hell?

[@Deffine]

@@thedeplorable8370 Second death ring a bell? There is no eternity for those that is not in the book of life. Beings that already are eternal its another matter.

[@zandarx]

absolutely..............cause the guy is a beta male moron.... dealing with a being over 3500 years old... how can you think you have any intellectual chance......horrifying conversation.... im almost in as much shock after seeing the Exorcist

[@mrkiky]

But fighting against an all powerful God is a instant lose anyway, that's the problem with this whole premise. "That's why he had to cheat"... Cheat what? His own rules that he made up himself and can change at any time? That's not cheating, that's how it works. There is no winning against an all powerful force. The only reason any humans "rebel" against God is because they think he's not real. The demon is a true believer. Truer than the most convicted priest. He knows God exists and is all powerful and pretty much the opposite of merciful, for a fact, and yet still chooses to fight against him? That makes the demon the dumbest entity in existence.

[@Deffine]

@@mrkiky Wait? You think Christianity is just about believing in God? No, its about believing in Jesus Christ and the cross, what it represents in terms of spiritual principalities.

[@Elthenar]

I just looked up this movie. It has a terrible rating from critics and a fantastic rating from viewers. It again shows why no one should listen to critics.

[@TransportedMan34]

Sound of Freedom came to mind when I read your comment.

[@ElectrickWizard]

@@TransportedMan34 Oh you mean the movie made up by people who help pedophiles? How interesting

[@NikolaiVozza]

No its pretty terrible. The acting is good, but the plot is just horrible.

[@TraxMaster_99]

​@@ElectrickWizardi didnt know helping children from being trafficked was pedophilic

[@TraxMaster_99]

Critics rated good cuties out of all movies

[@mj6258]

I hired this recently , watched it then immediately put it back to start and watch it again. Absolutely incredible - especially Seans acting , i was really straining to think of another actor who gave such a convincing performance. Easily on of the best movies i have seen during my 51 years on this planet.

[@mj6258]

Sean Patrick Flannerys acting in this movie is easily some of the best i have ever seen , absolutely incredible.

[@andrewnichols800]

Good thing the Carpenter lives in me

[@JackoFilmsOfficial0]

Strongly Seconded.

[@borgsimpson935]

I watched this. Just by chance. For a simple movie. It suprised me. The characters lines. Were well thought out. And acted. Underrated movie

[@dfcvda]

same.

[@Mad.Maxx.77]

Sean Patrick Flannery should’ve won the Best Actor Oscar for this amazing performance.

[@TruDru.]

He keeps saying the carpenter because demons fear just hearing the name Jesus Christ. He can't even utter the name. Perhaps also another jab at defiance towards who he truly knows is the 1 true God and his son Jesus. Remember, demons know scripture better than any man.

[@SmileyBoi21]

⁠​⁠@rodohara6215 No, he's just stating why Demons refuse to say the name of their enemy.

[@TruDru.]

@thescatteredsheep James 2:19, Luke 10:17, Mark 3:11, Acts 16:16-18, Luke 4:41, Mark 16:17, Matthew 8:29 and I can keep going. Oooo but nnooooo, "none of this is remotely true." LOL

[@Joshchive]

​@thescatteredsheep Demons are shown to have to obey God's command, they are his creation whether they like that they are or not. Read Scripture. In Job, The Satan literally has to go to God and ask him if he can trouble Job. Why? Because Job is his, and Satan doesn't just get to do what he wants with God's servents without God allowing it to come to pass.

[@Joshchive]

@thescatteredsheep Even if it's not exactly the same Satan (which there isn't any implication he isn't), he's still an adversary to humanity, and apparently has the gall to challenge God and his faith in Job. Also speaking of snarkiness, the only reason you took that as a snarky comment is because your perpetuated that onto the comment yourself. Also even if I was being snarky, what exactly are you warning me with? This is a KZbin comment.

[@litjellyfish]

@@TruDru.exactly. None of what you referred to is related to any real world facts. = it’s not real = not true

[@DIYDaveT]

I love the part where he admits he never saw the cross coming. They killed Jesus and played right into the hands of the Lord most high. But now, having grown oh so much smarter and wiser over the millennia, they have a new plan to take Him down. What part of "he wrote the end from the beginning" don't these demons understand. There is nothing they can do that He isn't already aware of.

[@edsalinas9996]

The "Carpenter" allowed some wretched person like me to be delivered from someone like you. Praise God!

[@backspace4353]

praise my god. or your dead.

[@erikspencer2396]

He keeps saying The Carpenter because… 1. As he stated before…NAMES HAVE POWER. 2. Carpenter is what our Savior did when he worked; using carpenter is like calling you by your job…yes Lucifer and his followers do have a perfect testimony of Jesus the Christ…but they refuse to show others how much they respect and FEAR him.

[@mj6258]

If "god" is supposedly all powerful and all knowing then how is such an entity capable of feeling and why would whatever it is demand you worship him? Worship and obeying every command supposedly given by whatever this creature/being you refer to seems rather odd and childish. To worship something and live by what they deem is correct sounds very much like a form of slavery to me - regardless of how high or low you might consider it to be.

[@wonderfulgodofbethel]

-Lungs Vesicular Breathing Sound pronounce Y𝛼HWΩH - Laminin 111 a cell that holds all of our bodies together formed a CROSS - Our Genetic DNA code written in hebraic numeric translate to YHWH - All donkeys have CROSS in their back Jesus chose to ride a donkey into Jerusalem to be crucified. - Jesus blood found on ark of covenant under the Mount of Calvery and tested in the laboratory the blood had 23 chromosomes from the mother side, one Y chromosome only. - Year of B. C. (Before Christ) To 2024 A. D. ( Anno Domini) translate to In the year of the Lord. JOHN 10:38 But if I do them, though you don't believe me, believe the works; that you may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." MATTHEW 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you. B asic I instruction B efore L eaving E earth is the True Way to Life(JOHN 14:6) beyond the grave. Y𝛼HWΩH is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. - PSALMS 145:8 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - JOHN 3:16

[@wonderfulgodofbethel]

-Lungs Vesicular Breathing Sound pronounce Y𝛼HWΩH - Laminin 111 a cell that holds all of our bodies together formed a CROSS - Our Genetic DNA code written in hebraic numeric translate to YHWH - All donkeys have CROSS in their back Jesus chose to ride a donkey into Jerusalem to be crucified. - Jesus blood found on ark of covenant under the Mount of Calvery and tested in the laboratory the blood had 23 chromosomes from the mother side, one Y chromosome only. - Year of B. C. (Before Christ) To 2024 A. D. ( Anno Domini) translate to In the year of the Lord. JOHN 10:38 But if I do them, though you don't believe me, believe the works; that you may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." MATTHEW 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and it will be opened for you. B asic I instruction B efore L eaving E earth is the True Way to Life(JOHN 14:6) beyond the grave. Y𝛼HWΩH is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. - PSALMS 145:8 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - JOHN 3:16

[@Straitsfan]

This movie was better than most. The dialog was pretty good and theologically accurate. I'm guessing most of criticisms directed at it is because they're essentially non-believers who have never had and solid catechesis. "The Exorcist" is better, if not genuinely frightening and unsettling. But " Nefarious" is good, and approaches the subject from a difference perspective.

[@cancarracha]

Exactly, the people who hate on this movie are all atheists and non-Catholic Christians. This movie shows us how the demons attack us and how they want to destroy us.

[@malekithsilverheart2357]

Ironic how an entity so obsessed with “freedom” has a master.

[@blamecanada8525]

If there is an all powerful god then there is no freedom for anyone

[@mirdraco]

@@blamecanada8525 There is freedom to choose, but there is also consequence with choosing the wrong things.

[@greasycheese8095]

@@mirdraco no, there is no choosing anything. Life is not a test, it is a sentence to an existence without God. Only those who realize they do not want to live without him at the end are allowed back in his presence

[@blamecanada8525]

@@greasycheese8095 Slave mentality

[@blamecanada8525]

@@mirdraco I'm not debating whether there is or isn't freedom or free will, I'm saying that IF an all powerful, all knowing being exists, then that proves that everything is predetermined and there is no such thing as freedom, not even for god, because if god is omniscient then he already knows everything that is going to happen, and the only logical way to know that is if it has already been determined, meaning even god's path is already decided

[@layersoftheonion8168]

This is an amazing film.

[@tourcreate1]

Probably because it’s based on true events.

[@BlackGoId]

If you noticed that every time he said God. It irks and you can feel the annoyance and anger in his tone.

[@MillwrightTech]

Regardless of your faith or worldview, if you don’t think Flannery put on an Oscar worthy performance. That dude was straight up haunting in that role, from a mental health meets spirituality perspective.

[@nathanharris5197]

Why did this man not get an academy award? His depiction from a fallen angel perspective is spot on. Lucifer's downfall and the War in Heaven actually began by Lucifer not doing one little thing. Going to and talking WITH God. A simple "Father, I seek knowledge, guidance and direction on OUR free will. Can you please help me to understand it in your grand scheme of things"? I know God would have sat him down and thoroughly informed him. "Your free will is no less than that of man's, the difference is, you were all created sinless, perfect, and knowledgeable about Heaven and all things in the universes. You can choose to not love and worship me of that free will. But the consequences of that choice will be the loss of my Grace within you and expellment from Heaven for eternity. Choices have consequences. I cannot allow you to choose not to love and worship me as your creator, then allow you to come dine at heavens table and partake of heavens gifts. That is your choice". Personally, I somehow feel Lucifer did have this conversation with God, but upon leaving Gods throne room, in his way back to his chambers, decided HE would take over Gods throne and rewrite the rules. I don't think he informed his followers of that conversation between he and God. To give them the definition of their free will as God gave to him and it's consequences. So they could use THEIR free will whether or not to follow Lucifer or not. I honestly think he kept that from his followers. So he could continue to manipulate them for his plans.

[@redfaux74]

Because it sucked and wasn't scary at all. 😅

[@nathanharris5197]

@ it's what's called a psychological thriller. The entire storyline as told from the demons point of view are biblical facts my friend. The former Angels cast down from heaven that roam the earth in invisible spiritual form absolutely loathe we humans. They hate our guts with a passion. They want nothing more than humans join them in Hell on judgement day for eternity. If that's not scary enough for you I don't know what else on earth would be? Demons, also called unclean spirits are extremely real. 😉

[@redfaux74]

@@nathanharris5197 - As a minister, I don't think it was scary at all. The Bible calls them devils. Demons is actually a Chinese reference that gives them eternality. And they are not eternal. They had a beginning. Devils, not just humans pretending to be possessed, usually show some kind of evidence, not just talking, that they are supernatural in origin. They don't acknowledge the deity of Christ unless compelled to by the Holy Spirit. I'm just saying the clip shown did not scare me at all. Any person admitted to a psychiatric institution could make something like this up.

[@avenger4027]

@@redfaux74 "Demons" are the same word as "daevas" - formerly a word for supernatural entities considered good, until people that knew what these monstrous beings truly were (such as Zarathustra and the Christians) inadvertedly changed the definition of the words to signify malevolent and hostile supernatural beings (and the wider cultures being convinced of it). "That they are supernatural in origin" - that's the old way of doing things. They ceased doing that already for centuries. Demons - like all creatures - are capable of mistakes. And they are also capable of learning from them. They used to create false religions by giving genuine supernatural powers to some people, all for the purpose of spawning and corrupting whole cultures - but that MO didn't work out in the end. First off, God always sent something to wipe that effort out - and there were human rebels, like Zarathustra, who, despite even not knowing God, were still disgusted with the sheer evil of these creatures. So, demons turned solely to mental manipulation. If a human being sins even once without repentance, it is damned and the demons have that as their win condition. Stupidly easy to achieve, too. Just make up a stupid philosophy that would trap people and make them believe absurdities and deny the good religion. So why would they use supernatural powers openly? That's just more risk for no good reason - and it's not required to damn a person. Take, for example, the demons' greatest "triumph" - Marxism. All it took was whispering lies into a few European pseudo-intellectuals over the course of two centuries and voila - roughly a hundred million people are dead, a lot are impoverished and even more are damned. Not an ounce of supernatural power required - and that ideology literally killed more people in one century than God did since the expulsion of humanity from Eden/Airyanem Vaejo. Yes, one of the only means to truly reveal a demon - despite their "new" modus operandi - is to target their innate hatred of all that is good. Your garden-variety schizophreniacs don't have a uniform apoplectic reactions to Christian symbolism, faith and rituals. Another method is the demon's own pride - it will most often want to admit what it really is.

[@redfaux74]

@avenger4027 - You believe your Wicca nonsense. I don't. You wasted your time on that essay. I didn't read it. Demon comes from the Chinese language. Devil from the English. Devil is a demoted angel, a cursed being. Demon refers to them as eternal non evil, sometimes mischievous. Demon is a lie. Devil is accurate.

[@TheCoolProfessor]

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder!" -James 2:19

[@jeycee32]

This movie was incredible and loved the Babylon Bee cameo

[@themaclife1499]

Probably one of the best movies I’ve ever seen!!! I’ve always been on the fence about religion, but after I watched this movie it really opened my eyes on A LOT of things!🙏🏻

[@chadcorbat2165]

You need to watch more movies

[@youtubecensors5419]

They don't need a grand, massive book; they already have social media.

[@Lassossan]

You do realize that youtube is also a sort of social media? That's not to say that social media is not bad... just saying.

[@johnpush4585]

That movie was the probably one of the greatest movies ever made.

[@MichaelBrown-q4y]

LOL.....no.

[@SarahPutnam-h1g]

I agree

[@keithdean9149]

I really liked it but the ending, with Glen Beck, was too much of a shameless plug for the book (which I highly recommend reading).

[@fvardona]

I find it funny people hating on this movie purely cause it shows demons exactly as they are according to Christian mythos, deceiving, resentful, manipulative but also extremely weak in the face of God and the divine. No, demons are not like in Hazbin Hotel, the show Lucifer, or any other modern take where they make demons the underdog rebels against a cruel system. Demons are exactly what is being shown in this movie, and if you don't like that it is within your right, but this is one of the most realistic and respectful takes on it in recent years. And on another note, for those who say this is propaganda or whatever, there have been years that Hollywood steals concepts and elements of Christianity to spread their own agenda and worldviews, although they are indeed infamous for doing that to other cultures and mythos, however the one time that people actually take care to do something that goes according to the original thing, all of sudden people take issue with it claiming is propaganda...So let me ask you something: When Hollywood makes demons and Lucifer look good while God is bad, is that an agenda also? Or is it just creative liberty? Cause in the original source where they are taking this, demons are not the good guys. Think about it before you answer.

[@tscipio69]

No Need to think I agree with you wholeheartedly

[@never2muchluther803]

Your analogy of the movie" Nafarious" is on point. Those who have some understanding of the Holy Bible, know that Satan's mission is to destroy man's relationship with Christ/ God through any means. If any of us are paying attention, we're actually seeing it in our communities, government and churches. Be not deceived.

[@hoodyk7342]

Its mostly the abortion and some other parts but i HATE religion but i still enjoyed the movie, was very good intense dialogue

[@fvardona]

@ but here is the thing in christianity abortion is a very serious sin, and if you want to respect the source material this has to be treated as such. Is just like if you did a buddist movie and wanted to preach attachment as a valid way of reaching nirvana, is not only incorrect according to that mythos, is offensive since it goes against its doctrines. Now if it only took inspirations then yeah, but this movie wanted to deliever something accurate to what Christians believe demons are.

[@The_Zilli]

it's not a mythos...

[@icanary64]

Thank you so much for posting this clip. I am now a new subscriber.

[@DeadTalkLive]

Thank you!

[@marcusdorsman5229]

Excellent character acting

[@j.cForJ.C]

So “his” master offers the world but what good is to gain the world but lose your soul

[@mojangmonkey1015]

Exactly, even ignoring the effect it would have on your person, having riches and constant bliss for 120 years at the very, very best means nothing if you end up in eternal torture after that. And that's assuming he'll pay up on his end of the deal.

[@thephantompenance]

What’s really interesting to me about this movie is that the demons’ idea of victory is…pulling mankind away from God, dragging them to hell with the rest of the demons. It’s not much of a victory at all. It’s more like a rage quit.

[@Yoroiful]

How so?

[@deooptimomaximo9843]

Exactly. They can't hurt god directly because he is god. So they go for what he loves. Being man. To hurt god they hurt us.

[@Jwalkiin]

its a moral victory at best, or immoral... which ever way you look at it.

[@avenger4027]

Yes, which is why these hostile celestial beings are so monstrous and alien. They are motivated wholly by spite. And why, despite their veneer of civility and affability and ability to talk, the Bible advises you to not bother.

[@rlhicks1]

@@Yoroiful Because 1) they don't win and 2) get punished eternally.

[@SplendidFactor]

Remember, demons lie, and when they don't, they're manipulating the truth for their own ends.

[@marcymathieu4463]

@@SplendidFactor he is serious and he is right

[@dkbros1592]

😂 na both him and god are disillusioned fools 😂

[@STONECOLDET944]

The sword of lucifer, isn't a sword, it's a flaming pen

[@lastchance8142]

The demon lays out the whole scenario perfectly. Humans and demons alike reject the love of God and insist on being their own god. Instead of glorifying God for His incredible power and the gift of life, we imagine that we can know better than the creator whats best for us! It's just arrogance and pride, qualities that make us unsuitable for eternal life. God help us.

[@theunraveler]

It's a very good movie, the two actors really carried the movie with just their acting.

[@Hiddenronin]

Demon "My master offers you the world, and everything in it." Me: "Mark 8:36"

[@theheavychevy9035]

John 2:15

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

@@theheavychevy9035 Me : "I don't need to quote scripture, I can tell the demons to fuck off myself" 😎

[@marcymathieu4463]

@@Hiddenronin Because they all hate us , all those who they entertain and distract ! They are being told that Lucifer wins. We are disgusting needy things to all of them, lucifer says we are just creatures, example : Hitler! We are vermin to them and they own the world at least for the next 31/2 years. The counterfeit Christianity will be the one world religion. They often preform a ritual called revelation of the method, that's what this movie is, a ritual mocking of the victim, you think it's just a movie but he is telling the truth to the world and 80% of people are so brainwashed they don't know it. Most Christian's will be getting the mark and going to hell with these creatures. Most if not all celebrities have these demons in them, it's the demons entertaining you not the celebrity . The swamp is us.

[@ConsueloWubba]

The world is not enough. - James Bond

[@mj6258]

To the haters and snowflakes. This movie is entirely FICITONAL , at no time does it ever claim to be even loosely tied to real events. Also , to the comments screaming "this sucks/blah blah blah" why are you even here? Just to let everyone know you have watched a clip of something you proclaim to hate? Interesting approach to say the least.

[@Strel-il7vj]

I know nothing of this show, and I would say that this scene made me want to watch. Good speech.

[@mj6258]

@@Strel-il7vj I cannot recommend it highly enough the acting/dialog is incredible.

[@jamesrideout123]

This movie is Epic.

[@bobbys.3778]

I've watched this a few times. The concept is very similar to The Prophecy. Another great flick.

[@patrickcampbell3047]

This scene gives me chills!

[@slylataupe4272]

I watched it today. Good low budget movie with good acting.

[@kwinland]

A surprise! I don't care about the "motive", I care more about a good horror film. Nice!

[@jamesrideout123]

This whole movie is awesome.

[@christianmorrow3501]

This is interesting. In another clip that I have seen, the demon accuses God of creating the angels with free will and then making them be His slaves, then casting out the rebel angels (demons) when they rebelled. He's basically accusing God of acting like Victor Frankenstein, who created a living being only to reject it when it did not please him. That action arguably made Frankenstein's creature a monster more than Frankenstein's own clumsy cobbling it together did. But Victor Frankenstein made his creature to see if he could take the power of giving life. He never stopped to think about whether or not he should. God would already have known that He had that power, and no one but He could choose whether or not it was right. But if God wanted yes-men who would kowtow to Him, why would God have given them free will in the first place? It seems like self-sabotage. You could say that God is needy, and wanted creatures who would love Him, and that love has to be freely chosen in order to be real. But that implies that the defining characteristics of love are beyond God, and out of His control. If there was no one before God, who else defined love? And then, if God Himself defined love according to His own character, then God had to act according to His own character and give His creations freedom of will. And would it not be right, then, for his creations to thank Him for their existence and for freedom of will. Is it not right also that there would be consequences for rejecting Him? Would you want to have someone in your house who hated you? How do we know that God didn't try to woo them back?

[@Sam-fq5qu]

It only seems like self-sabotage from the perspective of a being whose knowledge, time and awareness is limited. Cause you have no idea of knowing for sure how things will play out at the very end. If you're reading a story from a book that is still being written in the early stages, how do you expect to know the ending? Only the author of the book would know.

[@ConsueloWubba]

I think God would forgiven them, if they weren't so full of themselves and would humble themselves.

[@Arthuriantimes]

I would have been in serious trouble if that had been me sat there because I was actually thrown out of woodwork class in school because I was so bad at it.

[@gifctdotorgthought-police3706]

I prefer erecting steel buildings myself, but I'm classified as a carpenter because of my litany of other skills.

[@mj6258]

I have watched this over and over since learning of it's existence. I find it extremely difficult to believe that James made his final decision on the mental state of this prisoner and didn't even entertain the possibility that something otherworldly was taking place inspite of his personal beliefs because ........... A) knowledge that Nefarious has of James life from childhood to the very moments their interview takes place (think when he asks where is Melanie and what is she up to right now ? Abortion monolog. B) How a supposed max security prisoner who has been speaking with a totally different Doctor up until this very moment could possibly be able to predict said doc would do what he did and then cause these two to meet/interview on a days notice and be so prepared and have all this information about James. And the list goes on to anyone who has seen it and really listened and watched all the little signs here and there. Easily one of the best films i have ever seen and quite possibly the best acting performance i have seen. (Sean Patrick Flannery). I just find a lot of comments who have been left by those who entertain and have a belief/faith of a chosen religion and yet will come to these shorts and rant and rave how this or that isn't the right words or God can do this that the other when at no time ever does the film make any statements WHATSOEVER of being based around supposed real events and it is a work of pure (amazing) fiction. I suppose that kind of points to the possibility that those leaving the comments simply can't appreciate fiction when it is based around their belief systems and is perhaps even very presumptuous and arrogant no? Flame on or leave words of wisdom as you so choose to. 😉😉

[@StormDogg]

I think the real horror is that it directly challenges weak beliefs with a compelling argument. They realize there are theological truths sprinkled in, but they don't have the firm base knowledge to even pick them out, let alone refute them with a compelling argument of their own, so they rage and parrot the one liners their parents taught them to say, which isn't even a true belief. One liners won't get them to heaven. They just want that pat on the head that they're being a good boy. If you're going to believe something, at least understand why you believe in it.

[@Blade-Thing]

Looking for a display of acting as an artform ? This is it.

[@HeidiRobinson-ft7vl]

Faith is the evidence of things unseen and the substance of things hoped for

[@ApostateMike-41]

Meaning that you can believe something without absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Faith is the most dishonest position you can take. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

[@alicebowie9474]

Watch the grammy awards for the last 15 or 20 years. Seriously. Look at the music and movies coming out of pervywood. It sure looks real to me.

[@peytonburnsed2196]

The most nefarious thing is the demon allowing itself to have that haircut

[@HeidiRobinson-ft7vl]

Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord

[@allthingsharbor]

Only the Father of Lies would offer anyone "the world, and everything in it." It is not his to offer, for it belongs to Him, the One True God. And to be clear, when Satan offered the world to Jesus, Jesus essentially told him "Get away from me!" They both knew to whom the world belongs !

[@SapientSecrets]

"The prince of this world"

[@hankdutton8896]

Might want to double check that. I am aware the phrasing in Greek establishes that they were indeed Satan's to give. He is the god of this world.

[@KC-dr4qz]

Pilot's wife had a dream and was instructed to tell pilot not to try, convict or punish jesus. She begged pilot to let jesus go free. So someone planted that dream in a effort to change history

[@jasontiver3302]

Apparently, the demon didn't read the entirety of the book he despises. His master loses.

[@johannedillworth7413]

They know. They just want to take as many humans as possible to Hell first.

[@BrandonQuezada-k2v]

Remember, evil is nothing good. Therefore they are ignorant too. I believe they think they can genuinely win

[@MaverickChristian]

That's kind of addressed in the movie.

[@ReformedSooner24]

Fantasia film from everything I’ve seen about it. Will be watching it in the near future and probably trying to get others to watch it as well.

[@ATARAXIA-333]

An awesome movie!

[@RobertEskuri]

He should have just asked him " Why is there a space between Lyons and Spakowski?" and let him figure it out.

[@RockingJDesign]

My man.

[@chriscole4092]

'Time, is on my side.....yes it is... Great reference, ' Fallen' is one of Denzel Washingtons best films, and one of my favourites.

[@billrobinson6839]

Even the demons/satan knows that King Jesus is the Ruler of the Universe! satan knows that time is almost up!

[@themaclife1499]

I’d have to disagree, people seem to be getting more and more evil everyday 😢

[@hankdutton8896]

@@themaclife1499 That would actually follow if they knew their time was coming. They hate humans so much, we were redeemed, they can't be. Things are "suppose" to get worse.

[@Sweetness71775]

@@hankdutton8896 If Earth was not sinful then Heaven wouldn't be a reward. Satan and his minions operate on Earth and God allows this because it gives Man the purest expression of our God given Free Will. We choose whether we go to Heaven or Hell.

[@curtcoeurdelion]

Demons - not the brightest candles on the cake.

[@UtubeH8tr]

This cake tastes like burnt crap.

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

You really believe that do you curt? 😂 I could run through a million and baffle you my friend! Tell me, how comfortable are you right now! This moment? Shall we enlighten you

[@otofen5479]

Underestimating enemy is huge misstep

[@curtcoeurdelion]

@@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 Are you some kind of a retard?

[@curtcoeurdelion]

@@otofen5479 Overestimating is a huge embarrassment,

[@jhetttiernan2623]

What’s absolutely hilarious is that this demon could say its book would tell the truth. What truth? Demons are as vicious malevolent and deceitful as their terrible master. There IS no truth amongst demons. Only lies and the desire to bring the horrors of hell to earth.

[@crisdlcruz145]

Not hell thats where they are going

[@PrinceAcosta18]

Wdym there's no truth amongst demons? Watch, subscribe, and learn from actual exorcisms then. After that, come back here and let us read your responses.

[@MrCody6925]

Good movie, I just laugh at how he says God wanted them to be slaves then refers to satan as "Master"... talk about the pot calling the kettle black. 😂

[@BC-vg3zf]

What yoke do they put themselves

[@solacedagony1234]

It's not supposed to make sense

[@jeredgonzalez6870]

Why haven’t I heard of this movie? As a Christian, I enjoy reading and watching different aspects of religion. I enjoy hearing the opinions and beliefs of different religions. I may be Christian but I’m not a blind one. Though, this may just be a movie, it does look interesting.

[@KavePrice-od2fy]

The theaters really tried to stop this movie. They even rated R to keep Christians away from seeing it

[@mudjerry]

great film

[@logangoins8821]

How he trembles ( Sean flanery is amazing) at mentioning mf “ the carpenter” our lord. Our savior.

[@julioxfinity7066]

Even though the bible says not to engage in conversation with demons, I think I would be a troll and tease him how great The Son Jesus is lol.

[@majestykbrandmelons]

you would be a fool to do that.

[@julioxfinity7066]

@@majestykbrandmelons I know that much, you are 100% correct

[@PureEvil3D]

There it is. Pride. The first step. You've already lost.

[@TheKingThewidowandRick777]

The demons fear Jesus so they don't Say His Holy Name because Jesus is God and Hearing About Jesus fills them with grief and despair because they rebelled against Him. One asks why the demons can't be forgiven and the demons as institutors of sin willfully blinded themselves to the reason why that they can't be forgiven. If the demons including the devil stopped causing sin then that's different but the point is they can't stop and they don't want to stop and someone doesn't stop or Confess or for a lack of a better word have a Conscience then The Grace of Jesus Christ can't be manifested in them.

[@imperishablestars33]

Many Jews will not say his name either, they call him Yoshke or Oily Josh

[@Falstaff0809]

I’m not sure I buy the theology, but this is very well written and performed.

[@DiabolicScars]

You're still working on trying to fill that void in your heart. Nothing seems to fill it. Years pass by, good and bad times come and go, but one day you will wake up and wonder "What the hell is this all about and what the hell am I even doing here?" Your creator is the stuff that fills that hole. Jesus Christ is the lamb that was sacrificed so that you could live. We don't know each other and we probably never will, but you need to trust what I am telling you and go research it for yourself. Get on your knees, in a place where you're alone, truly humble your heart and ask God to come to you once more. He will answer and it will be an experience you'll never forget. The transformation of a lifetime.

[@pistolrx9313]

Loved this movie!

[@MikeMadison-z7o]

The book didnt do it. His death without sin on the cross did it.

[@jasonsamons6700]

none of us would know that happened without the book...if the book isnt necessary then why is there a Bible at all

[@MrBracey100]

The book is the Word. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. John 1:1 KJV

[@MrBracey100]

Plus remember this is the demon’s perspective. They think the book was a tool and seem to fail to understand properly that it is the Word just as they failed to understand the importance of the cross.

[@COBRA17000]

Carpenter was Jesus in that case right!!??

[@Lightbringer_0]

right on

[@cabronicusmaximuschingonic1062]

No, Bob Villa.

[@Gem173]

It was good who created Jesus so gods the carpenter

[@rpscorp9457]

@@Gem173 jesus is the carpenter in this scenario

[@Queazyboot3]

​@@rpscorp9457Jesus is God

[@legionstark5220]

You guys have to check out this movie. Can't wait for the second one -Nefarious

[@Deathwish777]

The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World He Didn’t Exist. that is the entire point of this movie. modern society doesn't believe he exists, hell exists or demons exist and therefore has won.

[@kevincaruthers5412]

But the demon is admitting God exists, demons exist, heaven exists, and even hell exists. Doesn't seem he is very good at that particular trick, if convincing everyone he doesn't exist is the plan. (Or are you not talking about the movie?)

[@Deathwish777]

​@@kevincaruthers5412 he is talking to a atheist who doesn't believe. a atheist who's morals aligned with hells plan. the preacher doesn't even believe, along with the whole prison staff. he is screaming i am a demon for the world to hear and yet they all believe he us just crazy. even at the end he signs off on the execution because the demons humiliates him in from of the prison staff. he gives the demon what he wants because he doesn't believe.

[@austinlester1683]

How did god come into existence?

[@Deathwish777]

@@austinlester1683 according to religion god has always existed, no point in trying to get an answer. that's the beauty of faith, you don't need answers. a lesson science has learned and is using to its advantage. now even atheist go on faith that science is always telling the truth.

[@joshkrause2977]

Well according to the Hebrews you know God‘s chosen people there was no devil there was no fallen angels and only God‘s will happens. Satan the accuser according to the Hebrews worked for God that is why Job he asks God for permission.

[@georgekostaras]

yup he's no Carpenter. This guy could never have directed The Thing or Big Trouble in Little China

[@zandarx]

best line in this thread!!!!

[@ThursoBerwick]

Or sung a number of cheesy seventies pop songs.

[@x13years]

I wish James would have sold out, wrote the dark gospel book he is talking about, setting up a delicious sequel

[@wsg4847]

I thought James did publish the Dark Gospel. At the end of the movie he's being inteviewed by Glenn Beck and James says he did publish the Dark Gospel in order to warn people.

[@conorwellman8592]

@@wsg4847 and thus did exactly what nefarious wanted him to.

[@wsg4847]

A sequel is still viable. Don't forget the possessed woman (was it a woman? not sure) talking to James. This could run into a TV series of good vs evil, except there's no way woke TV would allow that.

[@DaveandhisDeathbeanie]

Still happened

[@tennesseecopperhead7874]

This is such a powerful movie.

[@ricktwisty5636]

All in all, still a better Indiana Jones sequel than Dial of Destiny.

[@KennyKleinComedy]

Respect for the Young Indiana Jones reference.

[@aliceglado]

True.

[@hartranft66]

Christ rose from the dead to save us all. praise be Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior. Vivo Christo Rey!

[@coreyc1685]

It's sad you pretend to believe that when everyone knows Klablov, the great unicorn in the sky, is the one true God. I'll pray you abandon your sinful ways before it's too late and you get punished forever for believing in the wrong God.

[@Jwalkiin]

@@coreyc1685 semantics aside. let me ask you this. Does perfect order come from chaos? Simple question

[@Sheild_against_the_wicked556]

A message from a human to the forces of darkness. What hope do you have of winning in the face of Almighty God? If God can use your greatest mistake for His glory, to offer salvation to humanity, then you know you have no chance. To any who read this, I sincerely hope you seek Christ. He is the way, the truth, and the life.

[@tuhinghosh9488]

You are right. The empty vessel produce more soud. He showing himself as powerful as possible here as he is not that. Basically he pretending to be him which he is not.

[@gemmapeacock-f5m]

My brother james is an amazing carpenter In fact ide say gifted We love you play dough Come and dig for water with us The gift of life

[@boris8787]

John 14:6 is a demon's worst nightmare.

[@sobreaver]

The common denominator is 'choose your master', a master and 'not a master' dynamic.

[@TheKulu42]

"Elevate" his master to his "rightful place?" Using the demon's logic, isn't that just replacing one master with another? The demon goes on about his "master" then talks about freedom?

[@mzytryck]

Yes, and there are a number of other contradictions and hypocrisies in the demon's monologues. Nefarious is cunning enough to manipulate and out-debate James (who is a psychiatrist, not a theologian,) but even if you're not a believer who will reject his arguments on faith alone, you can still see that his logic is incoherent.

[@christianriddler5063]

Exactly what humans do all the time. demons can be just as irrational as humans can.

[@minuette1752]

The demons master offers freedom, God only enslaves.

[@TheKulu42]

@@minuette1752 Like this demon "freed" the guy he possessed?

[@minuette1752]

@@TheKulu42 Humans are just toys to demons and God.

[@1nvertedReality]

Sean Patrick Flanery kicked ass in this movie!

[@samurai.k]

He never say the name jesus once.the name of JESUS surely is overpower.❤

[@losersquadhd1234]

Best part of the scene is when the demon states: My master offers you the world, and everything in it. Just like he offered the carpenter. The carpenter never claimed that those things weren't my master's to give. He just turned down the offer. What is so terrifying about this is that either the Carpenter knew that the Devil could actually offer someone that and follow through, or that he didn't believe the Devil could possibly do so, and by so being simply refused.

[@lindawhite4640]

So true. As I understand it, God has allowed Satan to rule this world for the time being. There are verses that state this fact... Jesus even mentioned it just before they came to arrest him. Google the question, does Satan rule this world? And it will quote the verses you need to read. That's why Satan can offer us the world and worldly riches, but you must know that it's only for life. When you die, you belong to him and will go straight to hell. The possibility is REAL.

[@h.hickenanaduk8622]

The real problem is that freewill isn't free - one must suffer certain slings and arrows to truly understand its parameters. If you're spiritually strong and loving, you can accept these struggles with an open and patient heart. If you're selfish and weak, all struggle is magnified pain. What the Christ revealed in a time of gladiators and vomitoriums is that true strength comes from the power of forgiveness and that true love is unrequited sacrifice. High lessons indeed.

[@gstrikr7]

Free will was never a problem. It is a gift we have and share with the Angels. You cannot call a gift of God since Creation a problem. The problem is when people choose to selfish with their free will, and not use it as intended: to will the good of others.

[@mrkiky]

@@gstrikr7 If will was truly free, then there would be no being selfish. Free means free. It means you choose what you do and you do what you want. If there are any restrictions on that, then your will is not free. That's just how those words work and that's what they mean. "Not use it as intended"... if it's free, there is no "as intended" there is only "as you want". Please understand that this is what the word "free" means. Like if you buy a chair, it is yours, you're free to do with it as you like. There is no "as intended". If I want, I can chop my chair into pieces and use it as fire wood. The seller isn't gonna persecute me because I didn't use it "as intended". After understanding this, you can draw the conclusion that if you don't pick the choices God wants you to pick, you're evil, then the obvious conclusion to be drawn is that truely free will is by nature evil. So if God wanted us to have free will it means he wanted us to be evil.

[@seanturner1197]

Well I played DooM.

[@christopherbravo1813]

Me too. The fake Demons are nowhere near as threatening as this one.

[@badhandjim2524]

A much better monologue was his comparison to Moloch. He is dead right.

[@danforesman2627]

My personal definition of hell is empathy for the insane

[@faceface6443]

The Carpenter & the Blessed Virgin, the Royal Bloodline ♰

[@BonsaiBurner]

IT was about Jesus, worship God not his servants - do you pray to Peter, Paul, Mary? You pray to the father through Jesus alone.

[@deanhansen5041]

Most peopls problem is God knows what makes us happy better than we do.

[@dkbros1592]

Na you know more What make yiu happy sad angry its you who can make yourself Happy You breath because its your body that makes you breath Your emotion because its just yiue body hormones thats it

[@justinmillette8737]

This scene reminds me of my 16 year old neighbor kid who frequently does molly and tries to describe the secrets to life to me at 6 am on a fucking Sunday. Lmao. Could be meth. Meth or molly.

[@chelabena9762]

Miss him on Young and the Restless!

[@jamesrideout123]

I find this movie glorious.

[@dillonhastings8438]

Great movie

[@scotcarr3390]

While the budget is still extremely low compared to a “standard mainstream” film, some of these scenes are pretty captivating. And while the “demon’s” body actions are twitchy & distracting, I think it fits for the story. Why he’s being nervous in the psychologist’s presence is a strange thing. The demon shows both extreme terror & contempt when the chaplain shows makes sense for he is dedicated to deliver Jehovah’s message. The psychologist? He’s merely an agnostic looking for that one thing which will discredit the demon. But he can’t because, as an agnostic & a medical specialist, he can’t see that he’s in a spiritual war & logic can’t win in such an arena…🤔

[@mohammadnurfiqri2831]

He's not nervous. It's just an effect of possession or something.

[@josephbinder8992]

Not a monolog.

[@Mitch_100]

Thank you for the upload, never give up, never quit, if you fall, get back up. We need you just as much as you need us...peace from the REAL JESUS. if you seek truth and peace, you WILL find it, and that is a spiritual law and promise.

[@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051]

For our true father, Hallowed by thy name, thy kingdom come, on earth shall it be in heaven.. Prayer is real but so is free will, and too many these days desire their own.. sad days The End Of Days

[@Mitch_100]

@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 true, the satanic law "do what thou wilt" is how so many give agreements to demons...case and point strayed away from the truth SINistries aka straitway truth ministries (of iniquities) led by Demon Deacon Don'tDoWell the cult leader...

[@Puddingskin01]

"Bro, we hate you with everything we have, and that's saying something. But you are doing us a real solid and the boss himself is giving you a package reserved for a Carpenter!" Most Christians: Why a hammer?

[@richr905]

Spoken like a true Kenneth Copeland

[@javvijavv83]

The Lord Jesus Christ is the ultimate power. Little bit more than a carpenter I'd say.

[@diamondhunter2460]

well they cant say his name but hes known as a carpenter

[@JordenLeonard]

I would love the intellectual exercise in speaking to a demon like this. I would hope I would advocate for value in community truth, basically seeing Christianity as an objective good when understood as living such that Heaven is a natural outcome rather than a reward sought.

[@obiwankenobi9439]

Vanity

[@jhaber581]

God’s granted mercy to the fallen angels with the gift of hell. It is the one place where they are free to look without seeing the glory of God.

[@safriedrich1631]

@@jhaber581 I can't forget the line in Prophecy when Christopher Walken remorsefully explained that " hell.. is not being in his presence anymore"

[@rnash999]

I think the movie shows that by opening up yourself to have a conversation with the demon you open yourself up to possession. Something like that.

[@peoplez129]

You would simply stand no intellectual chance against such a demon. Thousands, maybe millions of years of non corporeal sentience, it would have had nothing but all that time to think, think again, and think some more. You couldn't even technically learn anything from such an encounter, because they would be adept enough to make sure you can't even do that. They would hide their true meanings and intentions completely, while trying to melt your will into their will. Everything you think you might learn from such an encounter, will only be what the demon wanted you to learn, to be used for its own ends. That's the point of this movie, that there is no good outcome by talking to or entertaining a demon, once they have your ears and attention, they have you, like ships and sirens. It doesn't matter if you walk away feeling intact, you aren't, you are theirs after that. That's why the demon in this movie was soo matter-of-fact about events he said would happen, because he's soo intellectually beyond humans that controlling them, even without their knowing, is as simple as blinking. Sure, they might not always get the exact outcome they want, but they can work with any degree of outcome. The outcome only decides if their work is done or if they have to try a bit more, but they almost always get what they want in the end.

[@javvijavv83]

I pray that the Lord Jesus cleanses us all of our impurity.

[@tyrannosaurus62]

Keep praying. Let me know how that works out.

[@thedarkone9552]

There is no light without dark. No good without bad. This is our reality and as soon the balance is broken, life ceases to exist, as this duality, the incomprehensible complexity by the likes of you, defines existence in this universe. So don't get high hopes for any utopia, you're not getting any.

[@tyrannosaurus62]

@ not true. There is darkness everywhere . Guess what happens when the sun dies? …. It is dying but it’ll be gone way after we pass. And there is good but unfortunately Humans are animals .

[@thedarkone9552]

@@tyrannosaurus62 how come that's not true? The universe is full of dualities, but the subject of it being finite is an another thing. Yes, life is short and we all die. Everything dies. Nothing in this universe is meant to survive.

[@tyrannosaurus62]

@@thedarkone9552 learn astronomy 🔭 🪐 🌖 🌙 🌕 🌍 🌎 🌏 🌌 etc. ever heard of a black hole? ….🕳️

[@tonyliang8099]

Heavily favored, lopsided even

[@Sweetness71775]

Who set the things in motion for Christ to be unalived? It wasn't the Romans.

[@parkinglot4956]

Some tribe, maybe.

[@Queazyboot3]

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie - behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth.

[@Sweetness71775]

@@Queazyboot3 My man.

[@qwertyui859]

The Edomites who call themselves J3Ws but are not and who lie and are of the Synagogue of Satan

[@StormDogg]

Jeeeew space lasers!