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The TS100 is the best portable soldering iron, period. So why even bother looking at the new TS80? Could it be even better? And is it even possible to get decent soldering performance out of a 17 watt USB supply? That's what we're going to find out.
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[@hellohogo]

Jb, the only guy on KZbin with xt60’s and lipos all around but no good usb power banks😂😂 Honestly, kind of why we love you.😊

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I have USB power bank just not QC3.0 capable.

[@hellohogo]

Joshua Bardwell I kid I kid!😂

[@stickboyfpv4742]

@@hellohogo hes always so serious... comes of as a DICK!

[@cavman7]

As usual, you convinced me that my life would not be complete without one. Just purchased the TS100, extra tip, and XT60 to DC5525 cable.

[@Dinco422]

I made a 4.8watts portable iron... works like a charm! And it only costed me the price of a regular pen.

[@wolfmancole1908]

Aircraft tech here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Definitely saved me a bunch of time.

[@RobertLeclercq]

Got to the mountain to fly today, realized an esc signal wire was broken, and right now I'm looking for a portable soldering iron!! @Joshua Bardwell you always have the perfect video!!!

[@tehllama42]

The TS100 is legit. That said, my $7 garbage XT60 still works... just not anywhere near as nice.

[@killertoast96]

A tip for the tip of the ts100: You can just leave the screw out, so changing tips becomes as easy as with the ts80. Even without the screw it is kept securely in the iron

[@audiogek]

Yep!

[@MBrulla]

I've wondered this...just never brave enough to try it. Hot iron tips rolling around our dining room table doesn't sound like a good time.

[@ken-kamm]

I do this too. Never did bother with the screw.

[@KrotowX]

Even better when hot iron tip is rolling around someones lap.

[@pleasecho2]

Problem with leaving the screw out is the tip turns which can be annoying. BTW the tip on the 80 turns because it has no such screw

[@Andre_M_3D]

I love my ts100 and I got it on sale when they were clearing them out. I also got the xt60 cable, 5 tips, clip on stand and the leather case and absolutely love it. I do like the USB feature of the ts80 though. This thing has improved my soldering skills 10 fold. Thanks for doing this Joshua. Oh and if someone bought the ts100 it is worth getting the software off github. I do agree the ergonomics on the ts100 could be better. I had purchased a good soldering iron with an adjustable LCD power supply and haven't even used it once since getting the ts100. So glad I took the plunge and spent the money. Cheers

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The biggest thing about the github software for the TS100 to me is the ability to increase output to 450 C. And you can do custom splash screen :-)

[@KrotowX]

Custom splash screen in soldering iron? And I thought that soldering iron is made for soldering...

[@Andre_M_3D]

I did not change the splash screen myself, however, it is a nice option if you like to customize your tools. A cell phone is to make calls but most of us change the screen saver so to me it's not a big deal. I respect your opinion but I do not feel it is a negative feature.

[@ulfrinn8783]

If you remove the screw, the tips are still held in with retention, it's perfectly fine in this way. Also, without the screw in it, I place my index finger where the screw was and it's extremely ergonomic to use it in this way, plus you have so much control over it. Then, since I have the custom firmware on it, if I want to use the boost mode, it's only a short shift of the index finger to press that boost button.

[@geoffreymartin2714]

just bought my ts100 and funnily enough it accepts my laptop's power supply for when I just want to solder without draining a battery. been very happy with this iron so far

[@adamkelly6264]

bought my TS100 via your affiliate link ages ago and it's an absolute gem. Thanks for another great vid, have passed it along to friends who need a portable iron.

[@ItsJustChase]

Was not expecting to be entertained this much for a random review I stumbled upon online. You made it more interesting, very funny personality. Good review!

[@hateeternalmaver]

Definitely gonna get me one of those. So often I arrived at the spot and just some little wire was loose somewhere causing me to go home.

[@NM-ib7ql]

I work with PA audio equipment and I am also a musician so sometimes eg. cables break and no spares are available etc. In audio world 12V PSUs are not common and that is why I did not consider TS100. However, after discovering TS80 that is a whole another story. Me or my band mates or colleagues in PA audio company will always have either USB-C power bank or QC 3.0 power adapter with them so in my business TS80 is a clear winner. This channel focuses on RC drones etc. where 12V is a standard voltage so TS100 is winner for that use, however it is not the case for everybody as I explained for my case.

[@drkastenbrot]

The standard voltage for the TS100 is 24V, at 12V it will be much weaker.

[@DjOddEssA]

Français/English (UK) Merci pour cette comparaison très complète et bien détaillée. J'avoue posséder ces deux fers à souder d'excellentes qualités, du coup ma bonne vieille station WELLER n'a pas servi depuis pratiquement un an ! Vous venez de gagner un nouvel abonné ;) Thank you for this very complete and detailed comparison. I confess to possess these two soldering irons of excellent qualities, so my good old WELLER station has not been used for almost a year! You have just won a new subscriber ;)

[@TheMixmastamike1000]

ts 100 can use hakko tips and with a 3d printed adapter use the hakko grips

[@tehllama42]

This should be the top comment. Have links to those setups?

[@ken-kamm]

I’d like to know how to do this.

[@mixching]

kenkamm me 2

[@scientist100]

I was thinking of a 3D design when I get my TS100 but I wasn't sure if there were any people already doing this.

[@ASJC27]

FLIR measurements are not accurate unless the correct material emissivity is used. Even then it may only be ballpark (depending on emission profile of the material).

[@dominiclallande]

He knows that. I imagine the emissivity of each tip is comparable.

[@bartedwards2375]

it is hard to get an accurate temp on an uncoated metal. Metal in general has a very low emisivity and he is is seeing a reflective temp, probably his face. He is seeing a more accurate temp on the TS100 because it is dirty the TS80 is brand new and acts just like a mirror to an IR imager.

[@ASJC27]

Dominc, the emissivity of the tips maybe comparable but who's to say that it is the emissivity that was defined for the FLIR? The default emissivity in most IR meters is 0.8, since it is suitable for many real world surfaces. Metals (unoxidized) have a very low emissivity (and high reflectivity) so for such surfaces the default temperature reading is way off. Bart, it is true that metals are hard to read at "normal" temperatures since the reflected IR overpowers the emitted IR, but at high temperatures it is not the case, especially if the metal is considerably hotter than its surroundings.

[@dominiclallande]

@@ASJC27 Soon after I commented I saw that he was looking for an absolute temperature. You're right, he needs the correct emissivity for that. Any value is fine for temperature differences between two things of same material

[@bartedwards2375]

ASJC27 I don’t agree. Emisivity does not change with temp. Can you please provide an article that substantiates your claim?

[@FightingMSA]

Just received my TS80P today. Project AxisFlying 3.5" kit for the Avata starts in the morning.

[@VladTepes44]

The Ralim custom firmware does add some nice features to the TS100 like low voltage protection, auto sleep and temporary temperature boost. But the custom firmware for TS80 is already being worked on anyway.

[@alchemicalanarchist]

AOKoda sells a QC3.0 adapter you can plug into a Lipo and power the Iron via the included USB cable. With the TS100 you have to make or buy a Silicone XT 60 cable anyway. Also you can use a QC3.0 cigarette adapter and power the Iron from your car battery. The ergonomics on the TS80 are nice because the tip is shorter. It feels more like you are holding a pen.

[@c4pt1n54no]

But you dont have to pay Qualcomm royalties when you make an XT60 or 5.5mm barrel plug. You also don't need electronics that "authenticate" the device to receive power either. give it voltage, and it will chooch.

[@Alluvian567]

Yeah, I was really confused when he was using the logic that the TS100 simply plugged into any quad lipo when I have never seen it for sale with that connector. I don't know where he got his connector, but I assume he made it. He could have just as easily made an XT60 to usb C connector the same way, right? I may be missing some nuance.

[@lordango]

Ordered the TS100 just now. Thanks for the comparison jb.

[@ricardomardi]

EXCELLENT REVIEW! All my questions answered in one concise super informative & very intelligent evaluation of two great tools. I'm going TS100 for now. All the very best from Buenos Aires.

[@juststeve5542]

2:25 - Just leave the tip screw out of the TS100 then! There you go, it now pulls out just like the TS80! Apart from LiPo packs, the TS100 is very happy on laptop power supplies, and on typical 19v laptop power supply, it rocks.

[@gbraadnl]

I power it using my Lenovo 20V powerbrick, and even can use a USB-PD 20V or USB-QC 12V adapter to make it work. This is not possible with the TS80 unless additional USB converters (from 20V to USB-QC is added... I have several, but unnecessary bulk to take), and it does not work well with even brand-name USB-QC3 powerbanks, like Lenovo PB-001, etc. TS100 wins in ease of use.

[@naudhizb]

oxidation layer on tip may affect increase emissivity of surface of ts100. you'd better measure ts80 after real usage.

[@tonysgonewild]

Thx JB. Great review. I have the TS80 and it’s been great. I agree the ergonomics are different than my bench iron, but I personally prefer the smaller pencil-like TS80 over a larger iron when doing precision work.

[@MERCURYMAD]

Could you use a USB step-down to USB C plug and still plug it into a Lipo pack? I still have oodles of the step down chips from only needing one for a project.

[@lightman500]

I bought TS-100 over a month ago based on your review...and its outstanding! I agree with your comments on ease of use with XT-60 batteries already in my flight kit. Tip change out is easy enough. TS-80 looks like a winner too. But, I'll stick with my TS-100.

[@locrien8888]

Patron from the future here: Check out the Pinecil soldering iron. 25 bucks and essentially the same as a ts100.

[@kimwooldridge501]

I'm just getting started, cuz of my boyfriends love of FPV Drones, I want to show him I can build too. Just need some equipment to get started. Wonderful teacher you are Joshua x

[@km_pr]

I'm always here to get some useful information, but...this time, I hoped to get the words of "buy the TS80"...but...okay, I still do ALL THE WORK with my TS100. Thanks for saving money!

[@dougasmastersjackben7881]

I brought one from banggood and I like it heats well with 4 cell battery

[@arevut]

Thanx for the method of fixing wires for soldering!

[@dustin860]

Really hope you've gotten some sort of fume extractor since this.

[@benjaminowen6181]

Everything I have was built with the ts100. It's perfect for me!

[@Leo99929]

IR cameras have a material emissisivity setting you need to change to get it to read right on metals. They're set up for accurate readings on skin, plastic, and water, pretty much. That's likely why it read wrong.

[@dimitarnaydenov90]

Hi Thank you for your videos! I am a total beginner into fpv and soldering too. I will buy ts100 for my maine and portable soldering iron. I want to know which tips would you recommend me to buy? 10x

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I like the d24 chisel tip for general use.

[@tomkenney5365]

I love my TS100. I bought the full set with 9 tips, which was definitely overkill, but the case is nice and the little ceramic stand is actually a small piece of quality. I put the Ralim firmware update on, and made a new silicone power cord, coming out of a 20v supply. It almost feels cordless and has basically replaced my Aoyue 968 A+. I haven't seen a TS80 first hand, but this and other videos all say the same. Match the features to how you want to use it and go for it.

[@lal12]

I bought a TS80 lately, and while I never soldered with a battery powered soldering iron, I really love the TS80 and in my oppinion it works better or just as well as any soldering station I ever used. However depending on the soldering job the size and form can really be a disadvantage so I am thinking about building some kind of grip extender. Also I bought a longer Type C Cable.

[@diyshoptools9157]

My TS100 came with the BC1 tip, which has always been my favorite tip with any iron. Thick enough to hold great amounts of heat, but has a sharp enough edge should I need precision. I hate those super fine point tips most irons include

[@scientist100]

This was an option for me and I choose the one that is flat a little on one side; TS-BC2 they call it. I only saw one with the conical shape and another conical but with a very sharp point. No other options but I will see on changing to the one that is smashed on both sides, I don't know what they call it.

[@Fee.1]

3 years later what’s the best portable usb ts80 style unit? Does the pine needle take ts100 style tips or ts80 style tips

[@camelCased]

I currently have Velleman VTSS30 - bought for under 50 EUR, which has served me well. However, sometimes I felt a bit clumsy when soldering smaller circuits. Then I bought a cheap USB soldering pen. I did not have any expectations, considering it cost just 5 USD, but I was surprised to discover I enjoyed using it. It's so easy to grab it from a drawer, unlike the Velleman which has to be stored somewhere when I'm not using it. My hand coordination feels so much better with the USB pen. But sometimes it's too weak and I would like to replace it with something small and a bit more powerful. So I hoped something like Pinecil or TS100 would be great... alas, it has a longer and heavier tip, and tips are more expensive than for other soldering irons. Come on, manufacturers, please create a solid portable soldering pen with simple and short and cheap tips and an ergonomic handle.

[@doYYY-gq1ox]

Am new to Lipo. can you recommend an appropriate size battery and charger? am aware of lipo charging dangers.

[@an_what]

1:48 I have something you need I took my TS 100 after putting a lump clay on it Shaping it into the way I wanted till it felt Right in my hand then molded that Poured it In silicone And now I have a silicone piece I can slide over my TS 100 It’s kind of like one of the old-school eraser things you slid on your pencil to make it ergonomically designed

[@Reecefpv]

Thanks.fpr the advice looking for a portable for my quad in the field and I'm definitely getting the ts100.keep em coming

[@jaydeeppatel514]

Alrite I believed you after hearing you @ 12:07 I decided to order TS-80... Thank you so much

[@c4pnk1rk]

I love my TS100... The main feature that I like, regarding its portability, is how fast the tip actually cools DOWN... You can solder something, and in less than a minute you can handle the tip again and toss it in the bag...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

And the built in accelerometer means it can shut itself down when you're not using it.

[@c4pnk1rk]

Big feature! I found a TS100 on sale for $30 about a week after I bought my first one... Now I have a spare.. Just as a precaution =P

[@RAYGUNN1978]

And I can now afford to become a patreon so i'm now on your list as of 10 min ago. I over appreciate your knowledge and help. I wish I could contribute more but for now at least I can give something. Thanks you sir!

[@tonytv]

Learned a lot thanks. Can you post a link to a Lipo pack that will work for this? That’s the only think I’m a little confused about.

[@genericfpv2464]

You should do an update on this iron not only did they release a new version that support different standards but a software update enables 24 watts and 450c on the old ts80.

[@michaelreagan2028]

I recently bought the TS100. Price was the only deciding factor.

[@gur3n6089]

I just bought a TS80 and is simply because I'm just a hobbyist and I just have a QC3.0-enabled power bank (upgrading from a really crappy soldering iron) from Zmi. I'm hoping one day they will make their soldering irons support USB Power Delivery (USB-PD) standard, which can supply up to 100W(Some unofficial versions even support 120W+) and is getting more and more attentions from manufacturers of power banks and power supplies, while QC3.0 seems to be a dying standard these days. There are already some power banks from Zmi with PD support can output 60W several years ago. And if I didn't remember it wrong, they just released a power bank capable of output power at 100W just several months ago.

[@clementthoo]

Hey Joshua, please do a review on the new TS80P

[@francisblair3223]

Hi Joshua! Thanks so much for giving an honest, thorough, and entertaining review of what seems like a wonderful piece of tech. I'm probably gonna get one for myself, and I was thinking I might make a little padding by wrapping some bicycle inner tube around where it would be gripped. Do you think that would be a problem for any reason?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That would be fine except you have to not cover up the screen or the buttons.

[@JaaaaaaaC]

i think the flir is off because the part of the tip youre trying to read is shiny. i have seen people using them when they needed to read shiny surfaces they put masking tape down so they would not have to read the reflective surface.

[@jpsalis]

I'm probably going to get a TS80, seems like it fits my use case, I can use it at home as my main iron with the included power adapter, but I can also use my ISDT checker on the field to solder when needed. Plus I like to work on surface-mount components so being able to change tips fast is nice.

[@deniedaccess4544]

Recently picked up a ts100 over the 80 as a good portable. Don’t use my big iron anymore though there are issues with it restarting because of cable I believe not being tight enough I guess.

[@ecotts]

Can I ask what volt and amp battery you use for your ts100?

[@RobB_VK6ES]

I have the Hako 951, 888, and a 20 year old 936 as well as the TS100. Each has it's weaknesses and strong points but despite the flimsy light feel of the 951 hand piece it is the one I prefer for it's short grip to tip length and slim profile. Which highlights my main issue with the TS100, It has a relatively long grip to tip length and awkward grip shape. Not the end of the world just an area where a v2 could improve. Pretty please.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

The TS80 has a shorter grip to tip length. Maybe it would appeal.

[@michaelyoung2685]

Where can you buy the cable to connect the TS100 to a battery?

[@mrmidnight32]

Is this still true today? Looking to buy one now

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yep. Still true as it was.

[@cheeseheadfpv9542]

I love my TS100 never had a problem with it.

[@TrustyShade]

Hello! I got the TS80. It comes with a grounding wire.... Never used a grounding wire for a solder iron. Should I be concerned about useing it?

[@Fee.1]

Do you make the battery checker? Or you design it ?

[@yurkshirelad]

What is the official brand of the TS80 and TS100? There seem to be copies on Amazon and eBay.

[@urodinofpv3313]

JB: what is the blue playdough looking stuff you used to hold the wire? Do you have a link for that?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

amzn.to/2K17Bhp

[@vstags]

I recently bought a TNA pinball machine and need to do some soldering. Are either of these recommended for this application? Thanks

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes for sure.

[@pauldusa]

My USB is a 8w iron. Runs great

[@davidkam83]

thanks for share

[@shelbyglazer3948]

im so hooked on your channel. Thanks for the great content. iv'e learned so much

[@tch3rry1]

I just got the ts100 last night

[@arctess00]

Can the TS100 be programmed for temps as low as 130 deg F? I'm looking for a low temp tool for lost wax casting.

[@epoxeclipse]

I don't want to mess with USB cables.. or USB controllers. I always have a car battery with me in the field because you know I drove to wherever so the ts100 is way more versatile.

[@NM-ib7ql]

I agree with your point of view. However, I personally have exactly 0 LiPo batteries, but always have at least one USB-C battery pack with me at all times. Also, in my field of work I don't have any other 12V supplies readily available at all times. That's why for me TS80 is a clear winner. At home I have the same Hakko as Joshua if I need more power.

[@AlexPalilonis]

I believe there's a higher wattage (24 watts) setting on the TS80 than what it ships with. EEVBlog did a great review. His thoughts were about the same, but ultimately he prefers the TS80 because it's usb.

[@vhfgamer]

EEVblog isn't a drone pilot with a metric ton of lipos laying around. So it would figure he would go with the ts80.

[@KrotowX]

I like more powerful TS100 more due to possibility to solder both small SMD components and large capacitor pins and AWG12 power pads. Plus ability to power from 4S/6S LiPo battery in field which is awesome to fix crashed quads in field. So I bought full TS100 kit with tips and power supply as my Christmas present. Yep, my relatives can't guess I wish to get a thing like that nor where to get it :D

[@6teeth318-w5k]

TS80 adjustable wattage from 16-24w. You unscrew the tip via the sleeve on solder iron . No need to touch it, hence the jackplug.

[@JerryCalverley]

I learned to solder using the ts100. I use it often and keep it with me at all times. I have no reason to change. The tsat does look like it has a better ergonomic feel though.

[@m.camacho8925]

How about powering the ts80 out of a noco power bank? You know one of those to jumpstart your car... they do have USB connections... the gb70 is 12v 2000A power bank... would that work?

[@haka8702]

Thanks for the links, I couldn't find it because they have such a horrible description full of errors and TS100 is only seen on the picture. Hope you get your affil % :)

[@hakaiyou4532]

Funny, i did just order the TS100 like 40 minutes ago.

[@XZLR8N]

I don't have a ts100 but since I can save a few bucks now over the ts80...bought

[@ASJC27]

Other way around. The 100 is cheaper (and IMO in most respects better).

[@ananthannarayanan1742]

Hi joshua,can you advice on the tips for TS100 if my soldering is for THT or SMD soldering projects.

[@bduncan43]

What's the deal with the "ground wire set screw" on the TS100? Does it actually need a ground wire?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

If you are working on equipment that is sensitive to electro-static discharge, the ground wire set screw can be used to ground the TS100 and prevent damage.

[@bduncan43]

@@JoshuaBardwell Ahh, got it. Thanks. I really rely on your stuff!

[@saturdayfpv6628]

Does the TS100 measure voltage from your LiPo and stop when it goes below a certain amount? (PS: I have one and I use it on my work bench all the time with a plug in power supply for EVERYTHING, It's awesome! I got rid of all my other soldering irons)

[@BigAlFPV17]

I'd choose the TS 100 for my preference. Excellent review Joshua!!

[@fozbstudios]

what part of the iron gets hot? isn't it it just the tip? if so, wouldn't it be easy to improve the ergonomics with 3d printing?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That is an option.

[@grenslitt]

I’ve been looking for that blue putty wire or part soldering holder stuff. What is it’s name and where to get ?? Thanks Tom G

[@JoshuaBardwell]

www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list-tools/#helping-hands

[@davidlondon3111]

Blu Tack works

[@grenslitt]

Geeze... feeling stuuuupid I looked for it there... didn’t recognize it in the package. Thanks. Press on TG

[@georgekramer2743]

Thanks for your review. I think I will go with the TS100. For soldering mechanical keyboard switches and "stuff like that" which tip would you recommend? The B2 or the BC2?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

For fine work definitely the B2.

[@Lizlodude]

While the fact that the TS80 won't try to pull huge current through a normal USB supply is nice for not frying your laptop, it seems like at the end of the day you just have a soldering iron with a power adapter, which you can run off another supply if you have a quick charge power bank or wall wart. I'd prefer the TS100 especially if it included a ~20v power brick, and can run off anything with a 12-20something volt output.

[@3lilmonkeys289]

Until they provide a better assortment of tips (just 2 last time I checked), I won't/can't switch over to the TS-80. Two tips I use frequently and one I use occasionally are not sold yet for the TS-80 so it'd just sit in my drawer collecting dust. They've been saying for about two months now that they'll be improving the tip selection, hopefully that comes soon.

[@AtlantaTerry]

See what Banggood has for you now.

[@ZenMountain]

Thanks for the video. I got my TS100 and it came without a grounding wire, which according to the instructions I must use. Is it safe to use it without a grounding wire attached?

[@BengalCatChilli]

Mmm, tsd24 chisel tip....$8 on Banggood at the mo. Sooo good. So so good.

[@twizz420]

The reflectivity of the tip interferes with the FLIR thermal camera. That's why you aren't getting good readings. If you painted them black you could get a much better reading.

[@wezcrutchfield]

Hi Josh, i just bought one, but i have a question, can this be powered from a car 12v plug in (cigerett lighter) and on the bench can this be powered from a dc volt charger ie old lap tap charger , would be interesting to know

[@sallerc]

If you want to improve the grip and have a 3D-printer, there are multiple models on thingiverse available. Just search "TS100 grip" or "TS80 grip"

[@sallerc]

For example: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4034565

[@MichaelRogersJesusrules]

TS101 now available !

[@RAYGUNN1978]

Awesome..I just bought the 100.. and jb balance board..

[@bombetdavid]

Im learning a lot from you. Thank you. 🙏

[@jlehm]

can you use it with the usb cable plugged into a wall outlet?

[@zone798]

USB-C can provide up to 100W, they have a power delivery (pd) function built in. Cable can provide up to 5 A, and by manipulating the voltage 5 - 10 - 15 - 20 it can output teorrtical 20V*5A= 100W

[@irishguy200007]

The length of it is shorter which give more control to the hand using it.

[@Anjfyi]

I use Anker's new powerbanks, they have PowerIQ 2.0 and it works just as well for this rather than QC 3.0. Not to mention they're mostly likely the best powerbanks you can get quality wise. Not trying to be a shill but even their new powerbrick adapter has PD and PowerIQ 2.0.

[@fluoxethine]

I had to use custom firmware on TS80 to get QC working on some power supply. I also gained ability to use it on 5V