Best PvP Melee in Shadowlands 9.0 TIER LIST UPDATE

[@scootzie]

Cant wait for a new tier list next week.

[@TehSuperHero]

lol so true

[@Raivazz]

I don't understand why there are tier lists already, things can change completely until shadowlands launches

[@TehSuperHero]

@@Raivazz for CONTENT

[@Omeiden]

@@Raivazz money. Do not think they are doing this "for you"

[@TheUnone]

Ngl it's the easiest content, both high quality, both super important.

[@audinionkundesu]

Is there like one person rolling a wheal each day that decides changes for class balance???

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

Hey guys! We just wanted to let you know this tier list was put together using gameplay at max level on the beta and doesn't represent the pre-patch meta at level 50. Also, the recent buffs to enhance like push it up into our B tier!

[@keats27]

Any hint on release date?

[@mortalux]

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[@mortalux]

Im r1 prot, show it here prot is best melee dps, time for you to update !

[@DonnyDeleto]

They already nerfed Feral yesterday...

[@goodreason3123]

F for enha

[@34bully]

F

[@rodrigocalderon918]

F

[@cDisturbed.]

Wish they’d show enhance some love, but glad arms is good tbf

[@Innacton]

Ptsd flashbacks of turbo from 5.1-5.4

[@bratansmitdrehkicktv9608]

I loved playing beastcleave

[@zsds520]

RIP ENHANCE

[@carlos84708]

What Is Dead May Never Die

[@KungKokkos]

And blizz nerfed their legendaries further today, and buffed frostmages. They are just pure geniouses. I wonder if they decide on changes based on a roulette table

[@dargurt]

it's is because blizzard keeps putting their defensive power into Ghost wolf...???? like Feral gets Bear,Travel, Bark skin, Survival instincts AND they have crazy CC with Stuns, entangling roots, slows and Cyclone...Meanwhile Shaman has Ghost wolf heals me 3% health and I takess like 5% less dmg and primal shift that only last 8 seconds.

[@dargurt]

Feral gets a point and click stun.... Both Sundering and Capicator totem stun can miss but share the same stun duration as BASH.... like I litearly have zero idea why blizzard cant just give them actual love.

[@TheDrZile]

me as fury : atlest we are BFF

[@Nercam1]

Ferals got some love just to be nerfed once again in the current beta build LOL WTF BLIZZ

[@Nercam1]

@@BeastMastery still managed to get glad every other season tho. We need some love smh

[@siiiiuuuu2912]

On which website do you see the latest changes, cuz i cant find it

[@effortlessGFX]

Another season of jungle or gtfo

[@shiugen676]

They seem to suffer from same damage profile issues as UH often does. Are we a dot/bleed melee or are we just a rogue with bursty ferocious bites

[@cynergi7498]

@@siiiiuuuu2912 wowhead always and forever

[@boredgamer7841]

Why is prot paladin not on this list? It is completely broken atm.

[@hellair606]

its not a dps?

[@boredgamer7841]

@@hellair606 "Best PvP Melee", neither the title, the intro or the description said anything about "DPS". Besides, prot is so broken it is all 3, tank, dps, healer all at once.

[@GiggaGMikeE]

Is the bonus of orc racials important enough for survival hunters to choose it over mag'har in pvp(mainly battlegrounds). I really like the look of the heritage armor but I dont want to gimp myself completely either

[@dapeng1919]

Is that possible to have any random battleground recommendations?

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

We've got that video coming out next week!

[@dapeng1919]

@@skillcappedwowpvp you guys are so awesome

[@jnajosh9425]

Are these including the changes from yesterday? Feral and assass got nerfed I don’t see where you’re getting buffs for those classes and dh got buffs

[@siiiiuuuu2912]

On which website do you see the latest changes, cuz i cant find it

[@jnajosh9425]

@@siiiiuuuu2912 wowhead

[@MikeMorg4n]

For someone who started late BFA and is looking to pvp, what would be a good starter? I know some specs is way harder than others.

[@kongmengyang1098]

Paladin. You're welcome.

[@leyphon7566]

Okay so if you want an easy class that doesn't require skill then pick ret pally, frost dk or hunter (although you won't get the skills you need to go higher in the ranks) if you want classes that require more knowledge but will grant you the skills you need at higher levels then warriors, mages and rogues are great choices (please note I am not listing every class only a few good examples for each).

[@ariftw]

new frost dk with 2handed using obliterate build is very fun, effective and chill to play

[@MikeMorg4n]

i will admit i totally ignored all your good advice and went for windwalker monk. i really enjoy playing the spec. its a blast :) but ty for your answers lads. i apreciate it

[@Raivazz]

@@ariftw 2handed frost got killed btw

[@Pesslus]

Thank you so much for these awesome tier lists, Skill Capped! I don't have much time to play the beta at the moment. So your channel and these videos are by far the best source to keep me updated about in what stage the game is right now. Really looking forward to see the updated caster tier list soon!

[@nateblake19]

Thank you. What nameplates do you use for your targets? The health plate above your target

[@Romdrake1]

Does that guide also apply for 2x ? or only 3x ?

[@jaaacccllkx9952]

lets pump those DH numbers up

[@wow1938]

👍

[@Y4N970U]

Is subtlety still the best pvp rogue spec after the nerfs on December 15th?

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

Yep, it is.

[@Y4N970U]

Skill Capped WoW Guides thx

[@TheDrZile]

at 1:57 i lost it

[@Blood_Ronin]

this video has outdated info. They already reverted the UH Assault nerf. It is 20% haste again.

[@siiiiuuuu2912]

On which website do you see the latest changes, cuz i cant find it

[@ADMEDWINGM]

WARRIORS FTW HELL YEAH

[@DonnyDeleto]

How is the Burst / overall DMG from Arms ? Didnt heared a word about it. Only the utilities

[@Alphascrub_77]

@@DonnyDeleto The damage is very on par with where you would want it to be. Kung Fu Cleave is a fucking scary as fuck right now in the beta. Their damage is close to that of a sub rogue while not having as much control but having more survivability. Also the burst they can drop in cooldown phases is scary and fast. Right now they can control their burst pretty well so that if their partner manages a play or some big damage they can capitalize on it pretty quickly (few globals) .

[@DonnyDeleto]

@@Alphascrub_77 sounds good so far. But is it only worth it to play in 3v3? Im more in 2v2

[@nbubzy]

Unfortunate us warriors aren’t doing so well in PVE :/

[@ADMEDWINGM]

Lets wait hope they do something with the dmg

[@ErickBastos]

will have the Ranged dps?

[@cencil6497]

How is 2H for a WW monk a dps boost? It's just a stat stick in this expansion only missing the extra enchant dual wield would give?

[@SadoKurosaki]

Did they git rid of shield warriors? Or are they only good for pve

[@AnoBananoSRO]

What do you guys think about Shadow Priests, Sub Rogues and MM Hunters damage? Highly likely to get nerfed or stay as it is?

[@TheBenytoxelay]

what is better 2hand monk or dual ?

[@BenHasAKeyblade]

Did the ad use a stream beats song?

[@blackbeards9487]

I heard enhanc is doing pretty good tbh, what happened?

[@teabaggingscorpion4288]

They are not a pvp class, elemental shaman just outclasses them

[@semi6544]

@@teabaggingscorpion4288 -- Do we know that after Ele Shaman's huge nerf? Reducing Lava surge procs from 15% to 10% is a very devastating blow. I am really starting to think someone at Blizzard really hates shamans.

[@E1Rj]

Does the tier list include the enhance windfury buff? I mean 10k dps as enhance with the new doom winds buff is insane

[@betahumanx]

Can someone please provide additional info to Paladin being ranked this low? I know that mobility is the biggest issue but you may have: - 2 charges of Divine Steed with 45s CD each - BoF with the Unbound Freedom PvP talent giving 30% speed, 25s CD, undispellable - Law and Order reducing CD of HoH by 15 sec if dispelled and also Blade of Justice giving HoH for 3s - Judgement is throwable from relatively high distance - Blade of Justice lets you cast it on a player while being few yards away - playing Zandalari would give you extra 5% movement speed I know this is a pure mobility build that sacrifices some dps in PvP talents but is it really that bad? Also, is Pally sustain damage lower than Arms Warrios?

[@gundorethemighty]

idk if this is a bug , but mages can now spam poly on there pets with out having dm

[@emrahmehmedov8696]

good job guys, awesome video!

[@SpelProffsen]

Will dual-wield frost dk be good?

[@Jeppezzzful]

@skill capped wow guides Please make a tier list for team comps 2v2 and 3v3 I am begging you 😁

[@brunofigueiredo8307]

What covenant is the best for arms on this moment, is it still Kirian?

[@altobelimachado6797]

For pvp yes

[@tjamez9910]

Great vid, I hope enhance sham gets buffed

[@jeleopard]

it doesn't just need a buff, it needs a re-rework

[@tjamez9910]

@@jeleopard yeah I agree at this point defensively the class really isn’t there.

[@jeleopard]

@@tjamez9910 people say we need defensives, and while, at face value, that's true, one of the most glaring issues is that they gave us back maelstrom weapon, but absolutely none of what made maelstrom weapon work before. No mana regen (we used to have 200% mana regen, whereas everyone else had 100%), loss of kiting ability gone (no frostbrand imbue anymore, no searing totem), reduced heals (surge heals 50% without maelstrom stacks up to 100% with, where as in WoD, last time we had Maelstrom stacks, it was baseline 100% and 150% effective with stacks. Why is it nerfed so much???), loss of totems/totem mechanics (searing for pressure, windwalk totem removing snares/being a viable choice lol), no insta cast hex which we had Wrath-MoP making us the only melee dps with a casted CC (and it's not even that good because mages and druids and shamans can all dispell it). And that's on top of defensive stuff we're missing like shamanistic rage, which we could use in stuns and glyph to dispell magic effects (like HoJ!!!), damage reduction from lightning shield, spell damage reduction from healing stream, flame shock heal glyph, ancestral guidance (ele has this, enhance does not), primal elementals (ele has - earth ele gives damage mitigation) That's 12 different things we used to have, 11 of which we had in WoD, our most recent experience with Maelstrom Weapon instead of the Maelstrom resource they introduced in Legion. I think Venruki might be bribing someone at Blizzard to keep enhance in the dirt at this point.

[@tjamez9910]

@@jeleopard I agree with all of that and the issue is they half assed the supposed “rework” they did. Enhance has had core issues on and off for 10 years. Spriest finally got a rework and it’s amazing I wish they would just take the time to help enhance but it doesn’t seem like they care at all.

[@trollonme]

strange because my friend that mains fury says he does significantly more dps with dual 1Hs...

[@trollonme]

also weird that my Unholy spec does WAYY better than my Frost Spec. by a lot. completely contradicting this...idgi. a lot of contradictions on this video.

[@shappet1569]

I really want fury to be good.... :(

[@SWN-6]

Play Cataclysm ^^'

[@shappet1569]

@@SWN-6 Was is that strong there? I think all it needs is the heal reduce :c

[@SWN-6]

@@shappet1569 not even sure about that, I remember them being gimmicky at that time, it was the first expansion they got their huge burst burst ( avatar and if I remember well it was the fury spec that had colossus smash) but PvP wise, fury has rarely been above arms ... So you gotta dig deep ^^

[@Zelulu1214]

Yeah it does shit damage, fight an elemental shaman, MM hunter, Frost mage, Affliction warlock or shadow priest, and their burst are gonna kill you before you can reach them it's ridiculous

[@carnazy]

Isnt Unholy much better now then Frost?

[@jonathanabgrall6075]

No mention of the pet situation for Survival? Spec is basically unplayable vs stuff like TSG simply because you cannot keep a pet alive through it, let alone gets a 4 fucking seconds cast off. The spec cannot properly function without a pet either, unlike Marksman.

[@blocki2882]

Since when can sub rogues transmog thunderfury ?

[@roberto9612]

it's probably the outlaw hidden artifact appearance

[@blocki2882]

But are you wearing one hander as off hand when you play sub rogue :O

[@roberto9612]

@@blocki2882 you can mog it as a sub rogue

[@roberto9612]

@@blocki2882 they changed it so that you can use all the artifact appearances as each spec

[@blocki2882]

But even with daggers or only with one handed swords ? If also with daggers i have to farm them 😍

[@tiagoferrari2392]

Dude, Feral is só broken! Huge burst., huge sustain, huge mobility!

[@leyphon7566]

Idk why blizzard hates shammies so much but damn. It hurts that I can't play enhance without dying instantly in pvp. Even with our one def cd (which is a joke like holy crap it's weak) you get 3 shot by everything else in the game. Show us shammies some love! Until then I'll stick with my other 2 fav classes. Warrior and warlock.

[@snuvmelon9974]

It's a shame. Thematically enhancement is just so cool. I think shaman need a total overhaul but blizzard can't seem to decide what they wanna do with them

[@leyphon7566]

@@snuvmelon9974 I agree. Either gives them another def CD that's not a joke so they can be a slow moving dps like pallies or increase their damage output like that of rogues or feral druids. I mean imbuing your weapons with fire frost and lightning is just so cool!

[@Khranok]

In BG's its usually always Ret Paladins dominating the leaderboards

[@mushrambo587]

the videos are about arena

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

They are one-shotting the ppl in arena too

[@Khranok]

They're just hard to lock down ATM. Most play human so have the racial, PvP trinket, bubble and then big heals and massive burst. Very dangerous class currently and they're not a particularly hard class to do well with

[@Smackd0wnKing]

@@Khranok why are they B tier?

[@trevloid]

@@Smackd0wnKing according the video its because of execution sentence. It's their big boy dmg CD

[@Alphascrub_77]

Sorry Demon hunters but this has been coming for a while. Hopefully you will get some buffs as time goes on but honestly having a kit built around massive cleave damage was bound to get nerfed eventually.

[@Alphascrub_77]

@Skankhunt42 "nefed into the ground" DH is still pretty dang good. Just like Nerfed 2handed Frost Dk. DH need more kit/mechanics and less I'm fucking OP so you die damage. I would imagine they are going to let some of the changes really play out so they can get more data and let players learn how to work with the changes. I think buffs are inevitable but probably not to post nerf levels.

[@MultiTbeast]

Seeing monk here makes me nervous... maybe a nerf bat is coming...

[@danboone5672]

They just got it, all their damage is from venthyr

[@AetherPrimeML]

I don't agree with all arguments, but the list is accurate. For the moment. Alot can still change. Somehow i see Unholy DK as an S tier. My opinion.

[@JS-skankhunt42]

Since the nerf to covenant necrolord, gargoyle removal and some nerfed legendaries I don’t think it deserve an S tier spot. A tier yes. Also damage are strong in prepatch but it’s not shadowlands

[@R3ar3ntry]

Any pve teir lists?

[@dkoykoala1488]

thanks for not skipping furry this time.

[@wow1938]

Good to see DH climbing a tier from B to C tier,better than many specs in pvp in generall and best melee for pve.

[@KungKokkos]

Yeah, best melee for PvE. Or you know, the single worst class in DPS in the shadowlands raid atm

[@wow1938]

@@KungKokkos lmao they are in the middle in DPS in sl and vengeance DH is best tank in sl.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4C5hWmtaKl5jdE

[@wow1938]

@@KungKokkos watch those vod idiot kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnnIdpSCdtCWmac

[@wow1938]

@@KungKokkos kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6m8mZSId7Bshbs

[@Tracuer221]

@@wow1938 Do you sleep? Do you go outside? What are your hobbies outside of WoW?

[@macp988]

it sucks how blizz wont let u play ur favourite specs in pvp because of nerf/buff lottery every expansion...

[@omologo95]

You can get glad with literally any spec. Don't think too deeply into it.

[@Swoodivarius]

How are these characters 60? The expansion isn't out yet

[@ericshaun360]

Beta.

[@franktank6428]

@@ericshaun360 safe to assume thos guy is a troll.

[@Swoodivarius]

@@franktank6428 nah it was a genuine question. I only got back into wow recently

[@ericshaun360]

@@Swoodivarius either way.. Happy to help 👍

[@trevloid]

@@Swoodivarius AS floppy said above, likely because of BETA but we can't forget that there's still going to be a ton of tuning happening until release.

[@AerodynamicAlex]

They need to buff Killing Spree, it's an awful talent to press. And perhaps redo the changes to Plunder Armour, make it 20% or whatever it was.

[@michaelf3780]

Kind of wish frost dk/mage and Resto shaman/Druid had unique spec names :/ not a big deal although can’t help But call it anything other than laziness

[@double_joseph327]

Honestly who cares. Frost is frost. Resto is resto

[@boltman1195]

Lore wise that wouldn't really make sense... Also, Arcane is mana in its truest form, from Arcane the elements are made out of it and other abilities.

[@maxsmolinets]

So you moved some specs around the list solely based on "players figuring out" ways to play them better? How does that not invalidate your tier lists to begin with?

[@_____J______]

11:26 Tier List

[@TheHyde900]

You literrally skipped feral

[@ashwow99]

Both the specs I play are bottom 2 :(

[@zijiehua4526]

caster tier list when ?

[@learnunitytv6103]

I really wish these lists had tank specs also, protection paladin is just silly right now. How does protection warrior do? Etc.

[@qyzxger790]

Didn't Sub Rouge get a giga nerf? I'hv heared from another competitive player from PvE that their dmg just got fucked into oblivion :D

[@basslime4795]

Key word there, PVE

[@qyzxger790]

@@basslime4795 yeah true but the DMG that is lost in PvE usually indicates a nerf in PvP as well! :D It depends on what changed and all that... If the conduits make the class playable and they get nerfed to the ground and rouges punch like babies it's def. a nerf in PvP as well! :D

[@sicmatesick3091]

Monk seems high I’ve been hearing all their strength is in the borrowed power, covenant ability.

[@omologo95]

That is the case, yes. But they also got sweeping buffs on the latest build, due to their suckiness in PvE content.

[@braindeadrat8005]

Meta seems to be developing in a very wotlk way and i like it

[@Smackd0wnKing]

WoTLK ret was absolutely nuts I hope it keeps up so that can be brought up to A.

[@bcristian4014]

I know ballance is impossible with blizz so I just with that all the C tier classes from BFA will be S tier in Shadowlands and all the S tier to be C tier now at least let some other classes shine ffs... not rogue at top all expansions. Put an encha up there or maby a F fart tier ret pala ffs.

[@praedonius9693]

oh yeah enh babyyyy

[@zsds520]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bryzor9244]

id like to subscribe to skil lcpaped, but seems that u guys dont have any new content in there,

[@clintfreeman3344]

I don't see how the numbers say frost is better than unholy I play an unholy dk and absolutely destroy frost dk as well as other classes the exemption being geared out healers

[@Jvnebvg]

They are in good in 3s with their cleave damage and chillstreak

[@omologo95]

This list is for arena, not duels. Unholy is probably the best or second best duel spec in all of WoW, and has been like that for a long time

[@cdc72311]

Wow so i leveled a paladin for no reason.... Bettttt

[@raimundowilson2140]

Lol

[@raimundowilson2140]

Do you still feel that way?

[@Dragunov0511]

Narrator, "xuen" is pronounced "juen" not "gzu-en". :*

[@toughdrew]

Rogues tier s ... Always :)

[@benjijagermeister2956]

Rmp is always good :)

[@heavensapprentice777]

Why are Frost DK so fragile like damn!!

[@Fuzzie22]

UNholy DK , S Priest is S Tier

[@jomentyp1411]

Haha this is fun.. Enhance got buffed - C tier Feral got nerfed - A tier

[@quelzar]

Spec 10-20%, player skill 80-90%

[@quszka3640]

i agree fury is still bad in arenas but in the video you show us a fury who wants to spam slam. why would you ever use slam as furry? thats just doesn't make sense

[@hvdiv17]

the best melee class is the Ranged c;ass you will play because ALL the melee classes are at the bottom of dps in shadowlands.the class balance is really bad in this expansion already. classic tbc cant come out soon enough.

[@daami7100]

lmao bc is a caster xpac too... one melee group for 3 caster group

[@hvdiv17]

@@daami7100 and my enhancement shaman chews them up

[@omologo95]

TBC where you didn't bring melee ever, and everyone played Shadow Priest, Affli LIDLock, mage and that kind? Melee is looking to be best in arena, but the worst in PvE content in SL. Which ... proves how hard it is to balance shit.

[@hvdiv17]

@@omologo95 yeah all the private tbc server guys are talking about it now.

[@Quickb3n]

Quick, its been 4 hours since your last tier list. Better get a new one uploaded.

[@ziggs123]

Ret seems s+++ tier, disgusting damage, broken healing, what else do you want?

[@bcristian4014]

only in the eyes of newbs that s why ret is good at low rating, but at high rating it can't do shit

[@ziggs123]

@@Ccedo they delete people in high rating you are talking such bs. watch any rank1 streamer they get shit on by ret pally. 1min execution sentence is the most broken shit in wow, they dont even have to pump into it to do 10k+ crit. its touch of death on steriods

[@franktank6428]

@@ziggs123 beta gear is also different than pre patch. Most paladins agree they suck in terms of talents so once the dmg/healing is nerfed they're dead

[@omologo95]

@@ziggs123 I want to point out that most of the top Ret Pally players that have stuck to the spec through thick and thin are rerolling for SL. Yeah, they got really strong damage, and decent enough heals. But if they don't get to actually use their damage, since they can't catch up to their target, does it even matter?

[@ziggs123]

@@omologo95 pala never was a mobile class, idk what you are talking

[@keats27]

Enhance still the poster child for poor game design.

[@RudeReaper]

Well someone has to be at the bottom

[@huehue6252]

RIP ROGUE

[@shaggyrogers9502]

WW S TIER? NOICE

[@fabioruiz4899]

Ret can have all the damage they want , you can't hit shit if both your hands are pushing the wheel chair you are sitting on.

[@Jowsh84]

Funny stuff, you ass clown, lol.

[@borges3099]

Lmfao

[@rainwell56]

Moving from main ww to feral.

[@teabaggingscorpion4288]

They just got nerfed so have fun with that :)

[@JoeyJumpUp1981]

BAM!

[@mozes88]

DH on B tier? the fuck

[@ZhunterPLUR]

This came out an hour ago but enhance got huge buffs the other day making them much stronger than previously. Dont just post your old to your sight videos be up to date .

[@siiiiuuuu2912]

On which website do you see the latest changes, cuz i cant find it

[@ZhunterPLUR]

@@siiiiuuuu2912 blizzard. windfury went from 10.2% to 32% ap a bunch of changes to boost more damage and make their heals stronger via maelstorm

[@athropos]

Unholy weaker than frost? Lol, sure.

[@Syphirioth]

I feel like frost hits like a wet noodle.. Then the insane ammounts of BG dmg are all unholy dk lol

[@Ненависть-ю2т]

Dh top 100🤪

[@The-Dom]

x1.75 you're welcome

[@TSI170GT]

Frost DK Tier A? Retry Tier B? Are u drunk? Retry can destroy easy a Frost DK

[@Wave69214]

Well im main dk. Most palas are easy :D

[@tamantije2463]

Thank you for keep pumping great content. Sub from me.

[@princefarming3552]

COMMENT

[@TheodorCsgoMore]

Ret is b tier KEKW

[@Ghostface4k]

You should't say "PvP tier list" in your titles. You should type "ARENA tier list". Because it's the only thing you talk about. All those things you say about those classes apply ONLY on arenas. PvP isn't just that, it has many aspects. When you put a spec in tier C, people that don't know will think that it sucks. IT DOESNT! It may be bad in arenas, but could be great in duels! Or great in world PvP, or Bgs! So be more specific and don't misslead people with your videos...

[@Dyils]

You guys literally have contradicting videos. Your video released just a week after this one ranks Warriors as one of the worst classes in Duels, World PvP and Battlegrounds. I find it hard to believe that a class which is one of the worst in every other category is suddenly in S tier in arenas. Yes, there can be a difference... but going from worst to best or vice versa? Maybe 1 or 2 tier difference, sure, but all of them? I don't know man... Sounds very contradictory to me. I've been trying to find out cause I'm coming back to WoW after a 6 year break to try it again but it doesn't seem like there's any source of reliable information. The game has changed so much...

[@DaSaint79]

Arena has dedicated teams built around class kits. Plus healer. Same as classic, a warrior solo is one of the easiest pickings but w/ a healer it's the top class.

[@The-Dom]

This is Arena specific. your title is misleading. random bgs is most popular form of "PVP" in the game. Endgame arena meta is niche. Your title is effectively misleading if not intentionally. I would imagine Ret among others would rank much differently in PvP than your arena list. Also, an updated list because people are figuring things out just confirms these beta tier lists are pointless because people dont know wtf they're talking about and things will change.

[@danama8932]

do you really need a tier list for bg? most people just play them casually so i dont think a video on it would get many views. also when people talk about pvp its mostly arena just like when someone says pve its mythic+ and raids and not pet battles and dailys

[@claka]

please please please get someone else to read the script or at the very least have the person doing it understand phonetics. They keep emphasizing random words and parts of a sentence or adding random pauses. It's agonizing to listen to.

[@kevinvegerud205]

I think its great to listend to :)

[@Connoisseur7184]

Sounds like a you problem.

[@wow1938]

*Glad to ses DH climbing from B to best spec in C tier,DH will be S tier and as strong as BFA ,maybe not in first patch but for sure after 2 sec patch(mid expansion) .Also DH is king of meless for pve(raids and mythic+) and DH tank is the meta tank for pve.😎😎😎🔥🤘*

[@KungKokkos]

You are unfortunatly completely clueless. How are they the best for raids? Now when vengeance is actually good u dont need to waste a raidspot on havoc for the debuff

[@wow1938]

@@KungKokkos darkness,magic dmg increase...

[@danielesquivel8936]

@@wow1938 It is clear you rolled your class because it is overpowered. I would highly suggest researching a new class to play in shadowlands as DH is actually in a bad spot for pvp.

[@Connoisseur7184]

We had 7 highly rated PvP and PvE players playing DH for the entire expansion. They were untouchable on every meter. Since prepatch they haven't logged their old mains once and all of them are changing to an entirely different class for SL.