best quakelive player vs agent

clawz vs agent, feb 1 2024
forgot to remove the input overlay my bad
cfg/hud: www.mediafire....

[@Nakilon]

Thank you for the keyboard/mouse overlay -- it was really insightful.

[@adamredinsky5401]

😂😂😂

[@ins7181]

Just had to make sure you guys could see all the keys Clawz thought of pressing

[@619Vital]

@@ins7181 LOL.

[@Daknightfury]

So hitting 37 rails is what it takes

[@Ph3nomen0N]

No, it takes playing from random name account so Agent is relaxed and not trying. Big difference now when they played again and Agent knows it's Claws

[@619Vital]

@@Ph3nomen0N you REALLY believe that that's how it works? You think agent can't identify the skill of his opponent quickly into the match? lol... Any skilled player learns to read their opponent, believe me agent doesn't need to know it's clawz to know what he needs to know.

[@Ph3nomen0N]

@@619VitalIt's one thing to go into a match knowing your opponent, a whole different situation is going blind and figuring it out during the match. Yes he can absolutely identify a skilled player, but it might take Agent a few tries or risky moves to test that. Had he known from the start it was Claws, I know Agent wouldn't allow so many rails to hit. Did you watch their rematch? Did claws hit 37 rails in that game too?

[@619Vital]

@@Ph3nomen0N I already knew what you thought before you said any of this. Do you really believe that agent wouldn't realize within a VERY small window of time, The things that are going on in the game, Don't reflect what would happen vs a low skilled player, He would realize very very very very very quickly into the match. I'm talking mere seconds. Regardless of if he EVER finds out it's clawz, He figured out more than enough to know he should be taking them seriously, If you really believe that the entire game went the way it did just because agent "didn't know" it was clawz then you're unfortunately clueless, reiterated by the fact you think he'd hit 37 rails in a game because agen't didn't know it was him, And that he wouldn't if he did know. 37 rails isn't even a lot, I'm not sure why you're so ready to jump in and talk about what's going on in the heads of the pro players when you're clearly very low elo.

[@Ph3nomen0N]

@@619VitalGet a life kid :D seems like you already know how everything else works :D

[@SamSitar]

destroying a dead body should add a tenth of a point to your score.

[@BasEkkelenkamp]

C L A W Z

[@thepropolys]

Those were some nasty rails

[@ThePalle44]

Hope to see Claws play more QL again

[@Mummy542]

Рейлы просто нереальные. Мало того, размотать Агента 5-2 - на такое единицы способны.

[@heyjocr1477]

Согласен, некоторые рейды нереальные в прямом смыслеэтого слова, потому что он их не попадает, а урон регается

[@Mummy542]

@@heyjocr1477 Чувак, это задержка сервера. Они ж не через лан играют.

[@zer0tolerance709]

​@@heyjocr1477 это сервер на стороне этого дегенерата

[@thf1933]

@@heyjocr1477 шо за бред. значит попадает, раз регается. он просто знает механику игры. плюс фпс в игре и на видео может быть разным

[@Mummy542]

@@heyjocr1477 Дружище, это не LAN, сервер отрабатывает с задержкой.

[@Pro100Gadman]

Орк Агент никогда это не выложит у себя на канале. Клавз круто сыграл и играет в целом. Но как же упал уровень игры с тех же полуфиналов дримхака Эвила и Сайфера. Агент бьет всяких мальчиков и людей кто в игру по 7 лет не заходил, но сам ничего не выигрывал достойного и 9 из 10 сливал игры всем топовым игрокам.

[@franky7by]

А кому эта мёртвая игра интересна? зачем в неё потеть?

[@6op9lh47]

это единственная победа Клавза, у Агента есть на канале полное видео

[@HolyRussianMan]

Колян видать на соки перешел.

[@Deadmeatsz]

I realllllllyyy want to see clawz try out CPMA/PQL someday. His aim is so good at its peak that vanilla quake live/3 might possibly not have enough movement to avoid his level of rail accuracy atm. There only seems to be some moments you can be slippery enough with normal physics and gameplay in this quake to avoid rails at this level of accuracy.

[@taneraptikadir5325]

He better doesn't try, it will be embarassing

[@m4a1snerfed]

players like veliars, chalq and gaiia have shown that you can still play the same way even with cpm physics.

[@goaway7904]

duel is aids in every game

[@vincentvince2136]

@@m4a1snerfed Until u dont play with hal9k or Vo0

[@GodofWarSanchez]

he will probably get owned in cpma, but even worse if he comes to q4, he won't be able to leave a respawn point, also its hard to win games when your aim is so bad

[@WindowBreakingGaming]

Holy crap !!!!!

[@javasoldier5926]

what a rail shoots

[@valejack]

if clawz and cypher join the project velocity cup, rapha won't even be top 3 lmao. i hope he can get back in shape.

[@ins7181]

never underestimate rapha

[@forasago]

rapha's mechanics are rusty in QL, he constantly complains about things that seem completely normal and expected to anyone watching QL regularly. you don't even need to play the game to know these things. like the hit cylinder being WAY bigger than keel, or the items being smaller than in QC. rapha literally complains about item pickups being bugged after running past them as if they were huge QC items. lmao it shows that he has banned QL from his mind completely since 2016. all these years he wouldn't even review his grand finals vs. evil despite being begged by so many viewers on his twitch year after year. his main complaint is that the game feels stuttery or input laggy on modern hardware supposedly. but I think that's just QL's flawed mouse input. no matter what other game you moved on to after QL, whether it's QC, Diabotical or you tried Reflex back in the day, EVERY other game has much better mouse input that you notice instantly.

[@srsav3kkknosk1llsen]

@@forasago I think a lot has to do with the death of his gf. He just dont wanna go back to that time and his mindset got way more dark/negative towards things in life hence his constant complaining about stuff or shifting his own faults to these things he accepted and circumvented back then. But thats just my take.

[@forasago]

@@srsav3kkknosk1llsen oh, was he already with her back in 2016? I thought they met later so I never made that connection.

[@photonz_]

these rails...!!! Is there anywhere we can dl your hud? looks clean

[@ins7181]

www.mediafire.com/file/w9zskjkutu1calt/ins_cfg.zip/file

[@sL4m]

ez. Это показатель того, что Агент, который днями Задрачиват и такой типа крутой, рафу там гонял, который не играл 10 лет и все такое, просто проиграл клавзу, который вообще инактив в кулайве и играет раз пол года на кланарене. Да и по сути в кулайве клавз особых высот никогда и не добивался, хотя всегда показывал хороший уровень и стрельбу, но не был в топ3. Тренеруйся Коленька еще 20 лет, может выиграешь хотябы клавза.

[@WisdomPowerCourage]

Can you explain thoroughly the aim style of clawz? I've seen mouse cams, and it doesnt look like his palm is in much contact with the mouse pad, but his control is still insane. Can you explain how he still wields such control?

[@theo4809]

Clawz came back?

[@ins7181]

he never left

[@phyqa1]

yo ins nice work. is clawz latest cfg available anywhere?

[@ins7181]

clawz cfg: www.mediafire.com/file/r0ridkzccf044sc/silclawz.cfg/file

[@phyqa1]

just tried yours m8 but seem laggy or something@@ins7181

[@cla2008]

i dont get it, whats your ping? half of the rails are clearly not hitting the model, yet the connect. insanity. played superb

[@ins7181]

60 ping vs 10, demos on ql are a bit iffy, if you watch a demo of someone on higher ping their shots appear a bit delayed or off for some reason

[@Bassisi]

Thing is, his rails look exactly the same ingame. It's weird af.@@ins7181

[@cla2008]

@@ins7181 hey, just watched another upload and someone mentioned demos as well. i never really played QL, only played q1,q2,q3 so have no knowledge of ql demos. impressive rails nonetheless. have a good one!

[@thecousindeci1103]

bro this is not even him its clawz, spectating has always been buggy plus hes not using cg_specFov 1 so it looks weird how he hits

[@memes_gbc674]

@@ins7181 demos capture the information sent each tick, while you might not have hit them the last tick, the game interpolates the rail to the next tick and then the server says you did hit them

[@iJaid]

Clawz inactive 5+ y.o > agent tryhard every day

[@TheNorDz0r]

horosh

[@Nik-h1y]

03:07 Set the play-speed to 0.25. There was no hit, but it counted. What is this? Ping?

[@adamredinsky5401]

Hitbox?

[@Nik-h1y]

@@adamredinsky5401 hitBox more than 2x then model skin?

[@jankowalski1501]

probably time nudge, its quite common actually, it usually happens at the back of moving target - u hit air behind the target, but it counts as a hit

[@Nik-h1y]

@@jankowalski1501 when the ping is different, it just happens that you shoot with a railgun and kill an enemy who has already run behind the wall

[@faltec]

This video is recorded from demo. Demos in ql are lagged like this, it's different than watching someone stream his game. Same when you spectate someone. On clawz screen he was probably on point.

[@MrZaeby]

Good game, agent sucked, but we still respesct him

[@backpackquaker8165]

gg G

[@ruffys9282]

please drop me your HUD, thanks

[@gamer-hw1in]

Hi ins! You are really cool! Can you please give me your cfg in QL?

[@ins7181]

www.mediafire.com/file/w9zskjkutu1calt/ins_cfg.zip/file

[@gamer-hw1in]

@@ins7181 Thank you so much bro!

[@SystemEnemy]

Бан за неуважение к легендарному величайшему игроку

[@MoikHorst]

why showing us ypur controlls if we dont see your imput? and where is the best quake live player? dont see him

[@GodofWarSanchez]

why the aim is so terribly bad? this is like advanced noob level at best

[@LunaFrog-]

please tell me ur hud please

[@ins7181]

i made it, it's here: www.mediafire.com/file/6by9p8hjxbm9dhh/ins_cfg.zip/file

[@deluded2630]

how does this guy know where he’s at all the time? is he using walls or is there a map im not seeing?

[@NaPH273]

facing 10cm away from his monitor helps

[@Nakilon]

It's just a basic Quake skill. From real Quake, not QC.

[@Sandman7180]

​@@Nakilonfor qc too

[@whoaitstiger]

It's highly developed gamesense. The duel revolves around fighting for items and there are common areas and paths you will take to challenge an item depending on your health. He is also familiar with the opponent's psychology because he has played him many times. Additionally, the maps are small enough that you can get a pretty good idea of where the opponent is based on where they aren't.

[@flowname]

when you play it as sports, you learns skills to understand the tactics of your opponents as well as how to time the items and control the map so that your opponent cannot develop an attack against you.

[@yastyman]

nnnice

[@lappi_wojak]

just a pure luck with those rrandom rails

[@just-lucky]

hahahaha

[@nortropgrumann9594]

Чо он кнопки AD не нажимает

[@vblvch]

why tf is he best?) is it cause he got tens of missed rails registered?

[@ins7181]

Yes that's exactly what makes someone a good player! The ability to bend the netcode to your will

[@vblvch]

@@ins7181 and then ping changes... we saw him many times able doing nothing our of aim only. the aim is splendid tho)

[@ins7181]

@@vblvch yes he only won 3 quakecon in 2 years, barely anything noticeable

[@vblvch]

@@ins7181I was speaking about QL mainly, no doubt about QC, early period at least)

[@flowname]

@@ins7181 why is quakecon any special vs any other set of duels? There's winnable money prize, but how does it matter in determining who's and what's noticeable in the game itself?

[@ronniemillsap]

title is backwards, but you supported 'quake' games with 'push f to invis' etc. so not surprisingits all troll, even titles lol

[@martinheller6766]

what? agent never won anything in any quake, nothing in qc, nothing in ql, nothing in q3

[@John_Johnson746]

ВХашника размотали 😂 Ждем чемпионат где он на лане на казёных компах покажет такой же уровень.

[@fxnepilogue]

Did clawz not play QC in the last few years? I honestly barely remember him. I fuckin hate how good his rails are 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@idontwanttotalktoyou]

he left to play apex. (probably why his hitscan is still so good.) he was coaching there until this most recent january. hope this is him shifting focus back to dueling

[@mass74dead]

фига тут комментов

[@oh_no_sorry]

это Сифер

[@Sergus154]

Это не Сайфер, движения другие.

[@oh_no_sorry]

@@Sergus154 именно его движения, и только его

[@ins7181]

@@oh_no_sorry its clawz

[@Sandman7180]

​@@ins7181минская школа

[@cirodimarzio3102]

У кефира движения во многом слизаны с кулька. У клавза что-то среднее между сифером и кулером плюс немного от себя

[@MetalFan2786]

"best quakelive player" - doesn't look like Cypher 🤔

[@ins7181]

CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER

[@jankowalski1501]

agent plays good after decades of training, but he has no talent. Clawz is exacty opposite, he playes amazing based on talent not countless training hours

[@billybudd8225]

What do you think talent is ?

[@Deletedvirus404]

In a tournament setting, experience wins out

[@tgergia]

lol, agent has nothing but talent and game sense, his aim is dogshit.

[@thecousindeci1103]

clawz has played for a long time.. hes just not a grandpa like the rest of the quake "pros"

[@jankowalski1501]

@@thecousindeci1103 I understrand who is clawz, but I do not think he has been constasntrly training QL duels for last 10 years like agent did