Best Scope Under $1,000: 9 scopes reviewed head-to-head

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@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
Thanks all for the support! I contacted many other companies who chose not to participate or failed to respond. I can really only review what's in front of me. Also, some companies like Arken make awesome scopes and I will definitely be reviewing them, BUT their scopes are much less expensive than these so I didn't think it'd be a fair comparison. Tried to keep everything in the $750 to $1,000 range and as close to 3-18 FFP as possible.
@BigShotsEric
@BigShotsEric Жыл бұрын
im curious do any of the Arken or other cheaper scopes compete with these? or is it really a "you get what you pay for" kinda deal?
@jirifrybort5877
@jirifrybort5877 Жыл бұрын
What you think about Meopta optika6 3-18 ffp it should be under 1000 also
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased the Tract Toric 3-15 x 44 FFP scope and it's AWESOME at $800-$900, Awhile back I found the Athlon Ares BTR Gen 2 4.5-27 x 50 for $600! It's super awesome!
@wisco_guy
@wisco_guy Жыл бұрын
I own two of the PA GLX FFP scopes and they have been excellent so far. Love the ACSS reticle!
@brandonquintero5710
@brandonquintero5710 Жыл бұрын
You should do another cheap rifle test, and do different rifles compared to the ones that you have already done. Like do a cheap browning or other known brands
@tyrelhunter6529
@tyrelhunter6529 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you arent allowed to show us the turret being twisted is just wild. I would love for youtube to explain the reasoning just to humor me. Awesome vid as always!
@taylorcleblanc
@taylorcleblanc Жыл бұрын
You can, he is just being super cautious
@reabralop
@reabralop Жыл бұрын
He said he’s been demonetized for that in the past. Just shows how much YT loves the year 84 from the 20th century
@Isaacmantx
@Isaacmantx 11 ай бұрын
@@reabralop It took me a second.... But I see what you did there!
@francoisbm6785
@francoisbm6785 Жыл бұрын
that drop test hurts to watch
@Zoro-IM_LOST
@Zoro-IM_LOST Жыл бұрын
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@C_oprator89
@C_oprator89 Жыл бұрын
How the heck isn’t athlon in this race?
@NiteWorXTV
@NiteWorXTV Жыл бұрын
So bad, I cringed everytime one was dropped
@Mills141
@Mills141 Жыл бұрын
​@architekt8937 no locking turrets
@C_oprator89
@C_oprator89 Жыл бұрын
@@Mills141 most athlon have locking turrets. The helos gen2 btr does for sure
@herpingmad145
@herpingmad145 Жыл бұрын
Good test. I would be interested in the scopes ability to track and hold zero pre and post drop. That seems to be a bigger issue than out of the box. If a scope doesn’t track out of the box that seems to be a non starter.
@BigBlue1026
@BigBlue1026 3 ай бұрын
I don't use higher power scopes for hunting in the Pennsylvania woods where shots are rarely over 100 yards. My favorite, just squeaking in under $500, is the 11.9 oz. Leupold VX-3HD 2.5-8x36mm. I have quite a few and have never had a problem with any of them.
@jpaul1232h
@jpaul1232h Жыл бұрын
Please please do the best scopes regardless of price. I’d love to hear what you have to say! Thank you for such amazing content!
@hlranch
@hlranch Жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you reported the water failure to Burris and if yes, what was the response? This was an awesome test, thank you
@TheMotorcycleBoss
@TheMotorcycleBoss Жыл бұрын
I own the Element Titan 5-25x56 FFP and have for about a year now. It's heavy but lighter than the Vortex Razor HD. Comes with a free optional throw lever, parallax down to 15yds, 34mm main tube, reticle illumination with an off setting between brightness adjustments and it tracks PERFECTLY as what was shown in this video. Glass quality is excellent for the price. I only have 2 minor gripes; turret clicks are a little mushy but do get better with use, and the glass quality isn't good enough to easily see mirage. Aside from that, I would 100% buy this again if I had to make the decision again. It was initially advertised as an airsoft optic because the owner is an airsoft fan but it is 100% designed for real guns. They actually test their optics on a .50 BMG. I use the optic for competition long range shooting and it has performed better than I could have hoped. If I ever replace it in the future, it would only be so I can see mirage better; but the glass quality is exceptional and very bright for such a great price. I absolutely recommend it for anyone wanting to get into long range. They have a hassle-free lifetime warranty as any reputable brand should and it is a VERY feature-rich choice. Highly recommended.
@reedehinger2636
@reedehinger2636 8 ай бұрын
what is "mirage"? Like, what do you mean by that?
@TheMotorcycleBoss
@TheMotorcycleBoss 8 ай бұрын
​@reedehinger2636 mirage is the heat waves coming off the ground that make distant objects blurry. You can read the mirage to see how strong and what direction the wind is blowing
@maxcoatlhunter4322
@maxcoatlhunter4322 Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are so great..that now we need a review on scopes under $2,000.
@MrMadeinthe80s
@MrMadeinthe80s Жыл бұрын
Primary arms has been making so good scopes as of late. I have one on my 6.5 (PLx) and it looks so nice. I just couldnt justify going Razor HD price over it.
@micaellnstrup4602
@micaellnstrup4602 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic review! I would love to see the same review, for top tier scopes from the top manufacturers.
@jimfunchess
@jimfunchess Жыл бұрын
You need to include Vortex and Leupold Scopes in this. Thanks!
@philschaefer4651
@philschaefer4651 Жыл бұрын
We know they're good, why would they donate a scope for things they've already tested?
@920fist4
@920fist4 Жыл бұрын
Well vortex's only optic that really lines up here is the Strike Eagle 3-18ffp... Leupold doesn't really have anything. Closest would be vx3hd 4.5-14 sub 1k... technically a non side adjust, non fire dot, and non cds vx5hd 3-15, but both of those are SFP
@taylortisaac
@taylortisaac Жыл бұрын
He literally says why they’re not in here. In addition to Nikon, I might add.
@paulmoss7940
@paulmoss7940 Жыл бұрын
Nikon no makee scopes no mo. I like the older ones.@@taylortisaac
@kellyreid8230
@kellyreid8230 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always Jim, thank you for all your hard work. I am that much wiser after takin in your videos. Thanks from Canada
@afdetailing8104
@afdetailing8104 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these tests for us Jim. Keep up the good work!
@juanherrera2672
@juanherrera2672 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a Meopta óptica6 3-18x50 added to your testing. Where did you acquire the colomiator ?
@georgeclark6629
@georgeclark6629 6 ай бұрын
I really like that Jim will do videos where he evaluates guns and accessories. He is real through and for the most part, he tells it like it is. How would we know what to purchase without this type of information. Jim provides a great service for those of us in the hunting community plus it's very entertaining. A great youtube series.
@ingelri2
@ingelri2 Жыл бұрын
Did you contact Burris regarding the failure of the waterproof test? I'd be curious to know what their response was. I'm considering buying a couple of those Veracity PH scopes.
@Bubblyhiccups
@Bubblyhiccups Жыл бұрын
Arken EP5 would be my choice.
@CiviTac
@CiviTac Жыл бұрын
My buddy put one on his Barrett as a joke. And it has stayed there because it’s great. We all thought it would die
@Chit_126
@Chit_126 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had 6 Arkens. All 6 have been sent back.
@michaelgomez3044
@michaelgomez3044 5 ай бұрын
@@Chit_126 Well they do have a life time warranty.
@Chit_126
@Chit_126 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelgomez3044 who wants to deal with a return? Thats a gun out of commission and re zero
@scbane
@scbane Жыл бұрын
This video is a prime example of "I love your content, even though it does not apply to me." Most of my scopes are 1-6x, or 2-7x24mm. I love the Athlon BTR series. You should see the looks I get from techno hunters out in the sage or up in the mountains, with their 3lb 6-24x50mm scopes. I am ethically the "fair chase only" type. I do not hunt from blinds, or sit on water or food. I despise road hunters, unless they are genuinely physically disabled. Spot and stalk. Thus, weight is important to me. Also, since I do not shoot over 450 yards, 99% of my big game kills have been at 4x mag. Just works for me. I also do not share your love of chassis rifles, composites, Cerakote, etc. Give me a Win 70 Supergrade in maple any day. I love your content, keep it up. Side note: last year out Mulie hunting in our big, wide sage canyons, I came upon a guy who was lugging a 28" Palma barrel UberLoudenBoomer, that had to 13lbs if it was an ounce. Giant scope, like 3 sun shades on it, a tacticool green chassis of some kind, chambered in 30 Nosler. He took one look at my Tikka T3x Hunter 243 Win, 20" barrel, with an Athlon BTR 2-7X24 it, asked to handle it. He laughed at first when I told him 243, until I showed him a vid of that rifle knocking down a mulie at 373 yards. He offered to trade me on the spot. We were up high, and could see where we were parked, about 3 miles away. Last I saw of him, he had his rifle tied to his giant pack, sweating balls while I cruised on by. Bet this year he has a different rifle/optic.
@brakeking8318
@brakeking8318 Ай бұрын
Totally agree on the Win 70. I love mine. May even decide to have it buried along with me. lol
@karlsailor
@karlsailor Жыл бұрын
In the price range: Arken EP4L for hunting, EP5 for targets
@brandonquesenberry8291
@brandonquesenberry8291 Жыл бұрын
SH4 is 300 great scope for the price
@paulmoss7940
@paulmoss7940 Жыл бұрын
Arken not really waterproof. Fail.
@magic4221
@magic4221 5 ай бұрын
​@@paulmoss7940True,not waterproof if you drop it into your pool.,..... but personally I don't do that much shooting under water. Maybe in the rain,but my rifle has issues when I fill the barrel with water. Therefore I will continue to gladly use my EP5 and shoot sub one half moa groups.
@choomanfoo157
@choomanfoo157 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your research and doing the community a service by keeping us informed. My jaw dropped along with that scope drop test! haha. You sir have my respect! (and sub and like)
@awsomedude9111
@awsomedude9111 Жыл бұрын
I thought Trijicon Accupoint should maybe be in your tests. Cool to see primary arms in the top, I think when doing the drop test it should be done 3-10 times to have consistency possibly.
@josefpdx1
@josefpdx1 Жыл бұрын
Quick question: could you please include the the ARKEN EP5 5-25x56 in the next review. Kind regards and happy shooting
@davidsalsedo
@davidsalsedo Жыл бұрын
ELP 6-24 30mm Jap glass
@Ron-ni8uu
@Ron-ni8uu Жыл бұрын
Not in same price class 750_1000 range
@Ron-ni8uu
@Ron-ni8uu Жыл бұрын
That's the 500 price review
@EthosAtheos
@EthosAtheos Жыл бұрын
For where I hunt a 4x is not low enough. Most shots in my area are under 100yd and many are under 100ft. Hunting in the woods is really very different than on grassland or mountains.
@fattigla
@fattigla Жыл бұрын
That's crazy that any of those scopes survived that drop test. Its great to see they are that durable, I would not have expected any of them to survive that.
@buzby80
@buzby80 Жыл бұрын
Did they survive though? The drop test should have been performed before the tracking test. Ideally they should have been checked for zero.
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
@@buzby80 We actually did test tracking before AND after the drop test. No notable change, which is why it wasn't mentioned.
@Ron-ni8uu
@Ron-ni8uu Жыл бұрын
​@@backfireI wondered the same thing
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru Жыл бұрын
Great video. How about a LPVO run off for those of us interested in getting an optic for a semi auto rifle using .223 or 5.56.
@davidlaney8254
@davidlaney8254 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and review that demonstrates why KZbin can be so valuable in making the most of your hard- earned money.
@romanrussian8989
@romanrussian8989 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your time, your work, your skills.
@MrTacklebury
@MrTacklebury Жыл бұрын
You all get so tweaked on the FFP, but for long range, you are typically using top magnification and that's what the reticles have typically been set up for when you buy a SFP scope. I literally use only two settings. All the way down for close in shots and all the way out for further shots. If you do that, you don't need the FFP. THe other nice thing is that the reticle doesn't shrink down to the itty bitty size that many of the FFP's do. For old eyes and deer hunting at least in most places, you don't need FFP or the added expense.
@Tyanmax99
@Tyanmax99 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
I actually would almost never use max magnification when shooting long range. If you zoom in too much when shooting long range, the recoil shakes you off the target and you can't spot your impact. Top competitors in many long range disciplines are usually shooting around 12x.
@DjLongshotxX1
@DjLongshotxX1 Жыл бұрын
Very much disagree, shot my antelope this year at 400 yards on 8x with an FFP optic (Kahles K312i so 3x - 12x mag range), wind holds were needed and the field of view from a lower mag kept me on target. A well designed hunting FFP reticle (of which there are frankly not that many currently in market, but marketing features people don't need sells scopes) will be usable across the magnification range.
@BooDamnHoo
@BooDamnHoo Жыл бұрын
I would agree if the SFP scope reticle was setup to be accurate at max magnification. Typically they are setup for some mag level below max so when you go full mag you don't have accurate holdover or windage marks, or ranging marks.
@yam831
@yam831 Жыл бұрын
@@BooDamnHoo I'm not familiar with an SFP scope where the subtensions aren't set up for max magnification only. Not that I'm a scope expert, but all SFP scopes I've looked at, reticles were designed around max magnification.
@Neb245
@Neb245 Жыл бұрын
Where is the arken scopes? Would have liked to the the epl4 compared to the primary arms as lighter weight hunting option
@scottbennett7676
@scottbennett7676 Жыл бұрын
I watched both your Best Scopes under $500, and under $1,000 videos and appreciate you detailed reviews. I was especially interested to see that the Primary Arms 3-18 SLx & 4x16 GLx scopes did well in your test. Have you tested any of Primary Arms scopes with their ACSS Apollo 6.5 Creedmoor bullet drop compensating reticle? As the 6.5 CM is one of the top selling rifle calibers today; I'm sure there are many like me who would like to see you test & compare their 4.5-27x56 GLx & their 6-30x56 PLx rifle scopes with the ACSS Apollo reticle. I would like to see you review how well you think these scopes would work for both hunting & target shooting with the 6.5 CM. Keep up the good work!
@fook-joby-den6172
@fook-joby-den6172 Жыл бұрын
Ive Never used the Arken Optics, but, LOVE the PA GLx4 2.5-10x/4-16x. Great turrets and reticle along with glass thats
@wbf91
@wbf91 Ай бұрын
I have to ask but maybe I missed it.. how come no Vortex scopes in the here since so many fit into the $500-1000 range? Bad experiences with them or just didn't have one on hand?
@MEDICIERIC
@MEDICIERIC Жыл бұрын
What about the new strike eagle 3-18? Its heavy, but I’d imagine it would be competitive with the options in this video
@brentjacobs7083
@brentjacobs7083 3 ай бұрын
I’ve only ever heard of three of these scopes. Are there not better known brands in this price range?
@travisemory1388
@travisemory1388 11 ай бұрын
I have loved your videos. You helped me pick my wives cva and my new Ruger gen 2. Spearfishing, we got dialed in, but long range shooting, we are still learning. Was wondering what you do with the used scopes when you're done? Some of us newer shooters would not mind a High end scope with a few nicks and scrapes if you sold them when you were done. You know the old saying, Losers cant be choosers 😅. Thanks for all the info and great videos!
@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman Жыл бұрын
I'm just here to see if anything is superior to the Athlon Ares etr 4.5-30x56 I've been wanting...
@commonsense5709
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
The Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 MRAD would be better for cheaper too ($799.99-$849.99) and it's not made in China.
@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman Жыл бұрын
​@@commonsense5709thanks, I'll research that
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 Ай бұрын
Everything you do is from the west coast hunter point of view. I’d love to see more second focal plane. In a 3-15.
@davidmartin7479
@davidmartin7479 Жыл бұрын
Leupold wasn't included?
@bobd8553
@bobd8553 Жыл бұрын
Why no leupold or vortex?
@danielalmeida3064
@danielalmeida3064 8 ай бұрын
Can you take a look at some high end scopes?
@treyg1808
@treyg1808 Жыл бұрын
What’re the odds that last night I asking myself why you haven’t made a video of 1000$ scopes! So badass
@rymoy4923
@rymoy4923 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see Tract, Meopta and GPO in the lineup!
@southerncountryboy8
@southerncountryboy8 Жыл бұрын
Same. I've handled some of those brands in person, and they are very clear. Wish they got more coverage.
@toddmartin3962
@toddmartin3962 Жыл бұрын
also toss in the Athlon Ares G2 BTR 4.5-27, the Crimson Trace Hardline Pro 4-16, Trijicon Credo HX 2.5-15, and the Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18. All FFP, all with lifetime warranties.
@stanleysanders9099
@stanleysanders9099 Жыл бұрын
@@toddmartin3962 the credo hx is sfp
@Thesamperson
@Thesamperson Жыл бұрын
Huge bummer about the Veracity PH. I'm stoked to pick one up soon, I don't think I'll have issues with late season snowy hunts but hopefully they figure out the waterproofing issues!
@lasthit1890
@lasthit1890 Жыл бұрын
i put a veracity PH on my 7mm PRC and you are going to love just being able to range, dial to that range and then pew ( mines been through a fair amount of downpours and no water issues as of yet)
@charltonlwalker
@charltonlwalker 10 ай бұрын
@@lasthit1890how’s the glass clarity? Burris has a next gen PH with ED glass so you can get last year’s version on sale.
@ChronicalsofAl
@ChronicalsofAl 7 ай бұрын
I am a riton fan solely based on the fact that I bought one and it failed to illuminate - called customer service and they sent me a new one (yes, before they received mine back)!
@avondale08
@avondale08 Жыл бұрын
Although more difficult to compare, you should do drop testing on rifle to check zero retention. Or figure out a way to check that the zero hasn't shifted by using your tracking test lab equip with a repeatable mounting point for each optic. Zero retention should be the most important thing when assessing a rifle scope
@m4rvinmartian
@m4rvinmartian Жыл бұрын
Wheeler makes a scope mounting kit that contains a REALLY, REALLY NICE muzzle alignment laser. That's the best way to check for zero movement.
@avondale08
@avondale08 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if the boresighting laser is that repeatable, then that would be a solution. The guys over at rokslide have been doing zero retention drop testing and it's amazing how few optics truly hold zero under minor impacts to scope.
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
I didn't show that in the video, but I actually did test that. I zeroed the scopes on the lab test rig, and then gave the scopes a VIOLENT blow against the ground. None of the scopes had an issue retaining zero in that test.
@avondale08
@avondale08 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying :) Love the videos
@overkill0149
@overkill0149 Жыл бұрын
For first focal plane scopes, do you check that the reticle subtensions line up with the calibrated equipment throughout the magnification range?
@armeddiver
@armeddiver Жыл бұрын
Thank for the review. I am looking to buy a new scope for a semi-precision rifle and I am looking at scopes in all price ranges. This was a great review and I learned a lot.
@pleinairbarnettoutdoors
@pleinairbarnettoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Should have done the drop test before the tracking test, verifies the internals
@chrisgunsandguitars1403
@chrisgunsandguitars1403 Жыл бұрын
Tracking test right out of the box is one thing, and a good test. Testing long term tracking to see if the scope acquires lag would require heavy manipulation of the turrets that these “deer hunting” scopes likely won’t experience. I was hoping to see a TRACT scope, and would like to know who declined being part of the test. I personally am fine with American assembled with Japanese glass and a scope tube machined in China to certain specs. The whole scope made in China not so much.
@romansdzalbs
@romansdzalbs Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see turret tests after drop test
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
I actually did do that, but didn't see any changes so I didn't show it in the review. The drop test didn't seem to affect any of the scopes other than possibly the Riton.
@romansdzalbs
@romansdzalbs Жыл бұрын
@@backfire thank you for information, despite pool test, still in love with PH, gonna put that on 7PRC rifle, when finally will get one in europe, hopefully from bergara or tikka
@78oaso
@78oaso 6 ай бұрын
Hello from San Diego. I my name is Omar I’m from San Diego and I’m new in this, I’ll like to know if you can help me. I have a Ruger American Gen ll and I take a Leupold vx-3hd and I’m wondering if you can help me and let me know what could be the best bullet for this rifle. I’m looking to hunt dears
@peterlowyk2056
@peterlowyk2056 Жыл бұрын
We were especially impressed with the Burris Veracity PH, which has quite a lot of electronics inside, and still passed the waterproofing test with flying colors.
@stevenwalker9013
@stevenwalker9013 Жыл бұрын
It didn’t pass the water test
@trumpet112
@trumpet112 Жыл бұрын
I see you picked up an Arken EPL after the pool test at 0:57 but I understand you didn't include them for pricing fairness. Can you say if the Arken survived the water at least? Great video by the way!
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
Totally by accident I grabbed that one during that test because it was sitting near the other scopes I was testing. I’m not sure if it went into the pool or not. I didn’t use it in the rest of the test.
@trumpet112
@trumpet112 Жыл бұрын
@@backfire ah makes sense! Thanks for the reply
@KyleAbbott-p2l
@KyleAbbott-p2l Жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing a review of Arken Optics? I just picked up an EPL4 and would be curious for your opinions/results on this one as well.
@SamuelBerryhill
@SamuelBerryhill Жыл бұрын
I’ll second that I have the ep5 and it’s awesome would like to see a review on there new lighter Weight model for sure
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
I have a couple Arken scopes and will certainly be reviewing them. I only didn't include them here because they are in a MUCH lower price category and I didn't think that'd be very fair.
@brad_neal
@brad_neal Жыл бұрын
I have a couple Arken scopes as well and would be very interested in your feedback.@@backfire
@travissmith-wz5nc
@travissmith-wz5nc Жыл бұрын
Burris shocks me. I'd like to see what company says
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it can happen to any scope. I still really like the Burris. I just probably wouldn't choose it for hunting in Alaska or somewhere that there's a potential of extreme rain or weather.
@baronbuehler3208
@baronbuehler3208 Жыл бұрын
@@backfireWashington is out lol
@ShersGarage
@ShersGarage Жыл бұрын
No Vortex in comparison? Viper PST Gen 2 can be had for under $1000.
@Aqulia1000
@Aqulia1000 Жыл бұрын
What about ARKEN optics? Would be awesome to see how it would compare!
@brndncrbtt
@brndncrbtt Жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the Arken Ep5 included in the test?
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
It’s in a much less expensive price category so I didn’t think it’d be a fair comparison.
@ronbeckybeasley3566
@ronbeckybeasley3566 5 ай бұрын
I can’t believe you didn’t have a Vortex in this price range.
@steffentysnes5302
@steffentysnes5302 Жыл бұрын
You should try to include some of the bigger European scopes as well, I really enjoy Zeiss scopes for example, but also there are other premium brands like Leica or Swarovski are also popular among the higher end scopes, I's love to see a comparison including these which i and many other Europeans know and love.
@MrCclimeGo
@MrCclimeGo 10 ай бұрын
Great episode / test! Great questions / comments from the community. I'm a huge fan of the growing segment of built-in electronics😎 not sure how deep the pool is, but I think it's less than one atmosphere ; with that said immersion and rain are different. I wonder if a dose of silicone spray would help 🤔 Thanks again and please do more 🤙
@bww1970
@bww1970 Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen the results of the tracking test after the drop test.
@mrcu8176
@mrcu8176 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking , what about Vortex ?
@kellyrick4365
@kellyrick4365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work and videos!!!
@tannervanasten
@tannervanasten Жыл бұрын
hugely appreciate the work here, great video. Really wish the big guys would have participated as I'm not really willing to step outside of the big 3-4
@JamesM-l5g
@JamesM-l5g 10 ай бұрын
Really good video actually. I’d like to have seen the drop test first. Then the water. Then the tracking…
@mcspivey1779
@mcspivey1779 Жыл бұрын
I see that 22 creed hat!! When are we going to see a gun on the channel?????
@JohnDoesItAll
@JohnDoesItAll 6 ай бұрын
My cousin was in charge of a sniper unit with a federal agency. A rep from ELCAN stopped in with a demo scope. My cuz looked at it and threw it at the wall!😮😅 The rep freaked out asking why he would treat a 7k scope that way. He replied that if the scope isn't capable of that level of impact, it's worth nothing😂
@MillerTime-406
@MillerTime-406 Жыл бұрын
I get that you can only test what you were sent, but a Vortex PST2 not in this test is a major player missing. They are readily available online for 699-899 and would compete directly against all of these. having said that, epic review. great job!
@sk8snwmx
@sk8snwmx Жыл бұрын
Even the Strike Eagle...
@marvinbrock960
@marvinbrock960 Жыл бұрын
They have a great warranty! You’ll probably need it. Yes, I have several.
@Thatbcyota
@Thatbcyota Жыл бұрын
I agree. Wish there was a few different vortex scopes in this
@robturner2709
@robturner2709 Жыл бұрын
The vortex venom scope would have been a great choice as well
@sk8snwmx
@sk8snwmx Жыл бұрын
@@marvinbrock960 Odd, I have 3x Vortex scopes at the moment with no issues, and the last scopes that I sent for Warranty were 2x Bushnell, an Athlon and a Leupold...
@dustinmclean7899
@dustinmclean7899 Жыл бұрын
I know it comes down to which companies want to be included in these videos and which ones opt to not be, but I was really hoping for a Vortex vs Leupold vs Bushnell vs Arken competition! Those seem to be the 4 titans in my area and threads that I follow. Regardless, I really enjoy your videos and this one was no exception. Thank you for the time and effort you always put in for your audience.
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
Vortex and Leupold didn't respond to my request to participate. Arken scopes are cool but in a MUCH lower price point, so I didn't think it'd be fair to put them in this one. I do, however, have a couple Arken scopes and look forward to reviewing them.
@commonsense5709
@commonsense5709 Жыл бұрын
Bushnell thumbs down they have the absolute worst customer service and warranty practices. See the F rating Bushnell got according to the BBB for screwing over way too many of their own customers and so did Bushnell's parent company Vista Outdoor also received an F rating according to the BBB too. All other scope companies got an A+ or at least an A.
@dylanhurst3449
@dylanhurst3449 11 ай бұрын
The one thing I would've loved to see...how well did they track after the drop test, and did they hold zero after the drop test? Loved the water test 🤣that's commitment
@Carlos-ln1lx
@Carlos-ln1lx 4 күн бұрын
Subbed. Thanks for putting the time in, very helpful video
@andboom293
@andboom293 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Arken, Athlon, Leupold and Vortex are 4 brands that are more highly represented than some on this list and should've been included
@michaelbakowski5143
@michaelbakowski5143 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the same but for PRS scopes. Great video!
@sithbadboy
@sithbadboy Жыл бұрын
Can we get a similar video with $1000-$1500 range
@davethompson1702
@davethompson1702 Жыл бұрын
why not test the Tract optics... they have proven to be the best scopes for clarity and quality in the price range i have found by far
@JeremyTardif-d6b
@JeremyTardif-d6b Жыл бұрын
I would like to hear more about the Burris. But after seeing the water test and not passing I’m not sure now. Burris has no problem with warranty, I know they will replace it.
@KenBlackRifleAmerica
@KenBlackRifleAmerica Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim and Crew...Awesome information and on my way to the blog post!! 👍👍
@mikemellon80
@mikemellon80 Жыл бұрын
don't you know turning a turret on a scope is extremely dangerous and KZbin cant be too careful!
@JoseChavez-rp3ez
@JoseChavez-rp3ez Жыл бұрын
No vortex? Why? 😩
@joekelly9369
@joekelly9369 Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt use a hawk on anything but a gas rifle , had problems with them on springers , dont rate hawk scopes
@jessewerner4067
@jessewerner4067 Жыл бұрын
No Arkens in the running? Pretty surprised by that 🤷‍♀️
@francoisbm6785
@francoisbm6785 Жыл бұрын
very few scopes are actually rated for underwater pressure, plunging scopes in a bucket of water would have suffice. as a suggestion to complete the test would be to verify turret function etc/electronics after a 2-3 hours in the freezer
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The test was way overkill, but when there are this many companies all wanting your money, we gotta be brutal in the test to find the very best.
@garyjones3832
@garyjones3832 10 ай бұрын
One of the scopes you tested is a Huskemaw 2-16x44? I can't find any reference of such a beast existing. Was this a prototype or an older model? I've done several searches using El Google and am coming up empty.
@mohsenraghian210
@mohsenraghian210 10 ай бұрын
Jim, I see you did not have another Vortex in this mix. Have you seen the new Vortex Venom 3-135/44 FFP They are on sale at both.
@tonkadelatte4672
@tonkadelatte4672 4 ай бұрын
What's your thoughts on Eotech scopes?? I see they make a 2x12x40 now for $850
@chadhaire1711
@chadhaire1711 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen you try a SWFA scope.... did I miss it.....??
@MattGoodman-vl7th
@MattGoodman-vl7th 8 ай бұрын
Can you tell us what collimator you are using?Maybe I missed another video where you discuss this? I have seen a similar device used by NightForce. I do a lot of scope work, sighting, calibrating, making dope charts, etc for people. This would be a very handy tool for me.
@mc-nm6ml
@mc-nm6ml Жыл бұрын
My only issue with the Burris Veracity PH, besides the water intrusion is that many states do not allow electronics inside of scopes, so in the state that I live in it would be illegal to use for hunting. Please make sure to add a disclaimer when recommending it for hunting that people look to make sure it’s legal where they will be using it. Really cool design/idea though!
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 Жыл бұрын
what state is that?
@Tyanmax99
@Tyanmax99 Жыл бұрын
Curious why the Veracity would be considered illegal since it's not actually doing the range finding. Without a rangefinder or rangefinding bino's the Veracity's HUD is useless. Seems like it falls in a gray area.
@mc-nm6ml
@mc-nm6ml Жыл бұрын
@Tyanmax99 We aren’t allowed to use “scopes that can receive information from any electronic device.” It connects to the app in order to setup/use, so it would be illegal. If your state lets you use it that’s awesome! I haven’t checked every states regulations, but in mine it would be illegal.
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 Жыл бұрын
@@mc-nm6ml I mean, dialing in dope you calculated on an electronic device is “receiving information from an electronic device”. Unless that’s not the exact wording
@CiviTac
@CiviTac Жыл бұрын
Or, and hear me out, you could just be ungovernable lol
@toddyaro3934
@toddyaro3934 28 күн бұрын
What about the Leupold VX-lll line and Mark-4?
@jeremyjohnson3974
@jeremyjohnson3974 Жыл бұрын
Why didnt you do leupold. They are probably on every hunters list of top choices
@SamuelBerryhill
@SamuelBerryhill Жыл бұрын
Thanks for video man. I was wondering why no Arken or meaopta scopes in the test I’d like to see what you come up with on there scopes? Thanks again God bless
@backfire
@backfire Жыл бұрын
Arken makes a great scope but they are half this cost so I didn't think it'd be fair to review them in this category. I will, however, be reviewing them in future videos. Meopta was contacted about being in this review but didn't respond.
@SamuelBerryhill
@SamuelBerryhill Жыл бұрын
@@backfire okay just wondering. I’m guessing nightforce bailed out as well
@DarkLordOfOptics
@DarkLordOfOptics Ай бұрын
Where did you purchase the collimators that you used for the tracking test?
@Thevapehouseunboxed
@Thevapehouseunboxed Жыл бұрын
Would love to know your full Sig Cross setup and what scope you have mounted on it regularly
@Meanderingoutdoors
@Meanderingoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you're aware, but it would be worth reaching out to the DWR in regards to the Burris veracity. Per UT big game field regulations book - "New this year: No electronics may be attached, except for illuminated reticles."
@johipharp
@johipharp 9 ай бұрын
Is it possible for you to review the Gen 2 primary arms slx 3-18. Really curious if the optical quality has increased to out perform the swampfox you listed as the best under 500$ scope even with lack of illumination
@johnostler5458
@johnostler5458 2 ай бұрын
Why no Vortex scopes in this list? Were they not competitive enough? is the Athlon Helos better than the Vortex Viper PST gen 2? I don't have local store with both to compare.
@Saintalexander797
@Saintalexander797 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting on this video and didn't even know it
@StoneWall_Actual
@StoneWall_Actual 11 ай бұрын
Would have loved to see a Swampfox in this comparison. Oveall though, this was a great video.
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