Best Starters for PokeRogue Classic | Pokemon Roguelike | Tips & Team

[@raikaria3090]

I'm gonna say something that might sound weird: Meganium is actually legitimately pretty good and you probobly shouldn't have skipped it. Meganium is a tanky Leech Seeder. Leech Seed is a brilliant move in Pokerogue; particularly against two of the biggest lategame threats [one of which will happily switch in on Leech Seed all day]. Boss HP bars don't stop Leech Seed as it is a fixed percentage of damage; and the final boss has massive HP. Meganium also gets Giga Drain to keep itself healthy; Screens to support the team [even in a bad matchup Meg can throw out a screen and die]; Body Slam for Paralysis and some basic coverage [Unlike Venusaur who gets recoil moves]; Synthesis to help stall things out... I caught a Meganium in my 2nd Classic win [Well; a Bayleef] and it was surprisingly great. Oh; and Chikorita gets Razor Leaf stupidly early so has a pretty good earlygame too. This wasn't even as a starter; it was a catch. And unlike Venusaur; Meganium dosen't need to find Mega or Gigantmax to reach it's potential. This is also with no egg moves and no passive. Grass-types are a lot better when you can just click the water biomes. There's a lot of Water and Ground based biomes in this game, letting Grass-types avoid their weaknesses and rampage. Also; good for mentioning Delphox. It's the only Psychic starter which is good against the Final Noodle, and it gets utility like Will-O-Wisp; Screens... And with Egg Moves; it's fast Skeledirge; because it gets Torch Song! With it's buffs; Delphox has a serious case for being the best Fire starter. Item stealing; Torch Song; fast; Psychic typing for the Noodle; utility...

[@Valancet]

As someone who is a huge team Meganium member, I completely agree with you here lol

[@iWantOreoz]

I feel like the biggest reason why people overlook Meganium so much is because of its pretty bad offensive, which you wouldn’t expect from a starter. But once you get past that, Meganium has some great roles to play, mostly in a game like this where health is a limited ressource

[@kyc001323]

thanks. it is much clear and easy to understand

[@Londronable]

Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. Dual screens, giga drain and leech seed. Go go go.

[@mikaela_res]

Venasaur has better stat's and typing It's unfortunate but meganium, works, but just isn't even comparable to the other grass starters like it

[@MainManJaggi]

People may talk trash about "Like and Subscribe" bits, but it legitimately did not occur to me to do so until you said it. Good video.

[@MainManJaggi]

Swampert having lower SpA doesn't bother me too much, as I mainly use Muddy Water as his water move. Being able to lower accuracy is more valuable to me in a rough Eternatus matchup than a slightly stronger water move. It's like Sand Attack with a fist attached.

[@Valancet]

​@@MainManJaggiMuddy Water has actually saved me quite a few times. Thanks for watching!

[@Kilo6Charlie]

With the new passive updates, Tinkatink lost Huge Power for Steelworker (sadge) so less overall useful, especially if you manage to get Zacian, but the big winner is GIMMEGHOUL. Dude gets Contrary as a Passive so you're immune to all Status and stat lowering moves, AND Make It Rain is basically a Spread Steel Torch Song, with higher power and Pay Day's effect. Absolutely amazing and a solid hypercarry.

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

Not to mention, Make It Rain _hits both opponents in a double battle._ So yeah I'll probably try grinding candies up for that alone

[@Kilo6Charlie]

@@WhirlyBeepBoops that's what a Spread move is ma'dude. But yes, Gholdengo is busted right now. Though expect the Passive to possibly change soon. It's just TOO good. Koraidon and Miraidon also are getting Competitive, so they'll copy HP gate boosts. Wild.

[@crisscore157]

But just in case, for everyone that didnt think off that, watch out for berries that boost your stats with contrary. You dont wanna get low, consune your stat boosting berries and instead lower your stats

[@ViniciusNSantos]

Thanks for the vid my dude! Been playing pokerogue and even already completed some classic runs but videos like these helps with some insights cuz before pokerogue i never gave much thought besides playing it like a Persona game lol.

[@jonsnow5513]

IMO I think Garganacl is a top 3 mon on Classic. He is a standard on all of my teams. Salt Cure is broken, and Rocks will wear down Raquaza. He also has recovery and great defensive stats. With Earth Eater he gains resistance to a common type.

[@Valancet]

Love my Gargi boi! Actually just caught a shiny one on endless a few minutes ago

[@jonsnow5513]

@@Valancet NICE!!!

[@MainManJaggi]

​@Valancet I was lucky enough to get an Epic Shiny Garga. The dude is an auto add to every Endless run I start.

[@Kilo6Charlie]

​@@MainManJaggiI haven't seen Epic shiny, but Rare shiny is Himalayan Pink Salt which is just super adorable of a touch. Nabbed one a few hours ago myself

[@MainManJaggi]

@@Kilo6Charlie Very nice!

[@emptypalms5060]

Like you said, hard to depend on egg moves, but my favorite starter has been Magnemite! The Parabolic Charge egg move is crazy good and steamrolls through Classic mode. I've had many runs where I pair it with a ground type (Clodsire, Excadrill, Mudsdale, Flygon, all good) and constantly sustain with the healing from the move. It has gotten even better with the most recent update where Magnemite's passive ability changed to Levitate, allowing you to use Earthquake freely as well.

[@Valancet]

Oh I didn't realize he had levitate now. Makes sense and seems interesting

[@loganbrackin2160]

Even for players that aren't beginners, this is still a very helpful video. Edit: Love that you mentioned the discord. Hopefully there is some more people soon

[@Valancet]

I definitely think most of the starters I listed are really good starters even after unlocking more. Most of then just keep getting better as you get more egg moves, etc.

[@erenjeager4634]

Greninja with battle bond surging strikes adaptability was a menace

[@Valancet]

It took me SO long to finally get him with battle bond, but ya, he's amazing!

[@jonatanquintana7109]

I have with the egg move surging strikes, but few days ago this attack dissapear. Was deleted or nerfed?

[@azurefoxbh9280]

@@jonatanquintana7109 replaced

[@tetrahedrongod]

Parental bond multi attack dodrio: hi One shots the elite 4 and 195 ivy just after 1 swords dance, stack berries on it and grip claw is bonus for stealing enemy items Also ignores sturdy Would have skipped it if not for having a red star shiny for it

[@ziljin]

I keep losing around floor 100 but i got lucky with celesteela and oblivion wing egg moce. It just sweeps and heala and i finally beat classic mode. Only trainer battles gave me trouble 195 final rival battle was brutal. Floor 200 was so easy with celesteela it felt anticlimatic

[@ProjectAceTV]

This is the video we needed! Praise this man

[@Valancet]

Just out here doing Bidoof's work

[@Hackzor404]

Egg move gatcha best for new players as egg moves carry you hard, Blastoise is amazing once you have sturdy and bouncy bubble

[@WhirlyBeepBoops]

The egg moves for Charizard are also great to have in a very similar vein, Oblivion Wing and Bitter Blade (options for both megas) both have the same draining effect as Bouncy Bubble

[@crisscore157]

A honorable mention i'd like to make is excadrill from gen 5. Kinda weak in the early game but once you get good moves (which he learns, so you dont even have to rely on TM's, even tho iron head is nice to get, but not needed). Stats are rly decent, good typing, can mostly take a hit and set up for a sweep with swords dance. Rly good dmg if you get that swords dance. Earthquake/drill run/dig for eternatus to hit his weakness. Carried multiple off my endless runs. Just watch out for heavy super effective attacks like fire blast or hydro pump

[@jaimereupert4247]

20:33-20:35 it doesn't need to be the second form, it'll also work on his 1st form and carry over to the 2nd. (It's how i beat him, I used Salt Cure.)

[@derekgunnels4856]

I have to advocate for Butterfree and Aggron as well. Butterfree with a speed nature out speeds many things and compound eyes sleep powder is great for switch ins or catching mons. Furthermore they have a busted ground type egg move that hits both opponents and burns. Passive Magician is ridiculously good especially if you can fish for steals on a sleeping mon. Finally Buttpree also can get tm Hurricane with compound eyes and has a GMax form As fory main man Aggron, he pops off hard with egg moves: Salt Cure, Shore Up, Body Press, Head Smash with Rock Head. Rock and Steel has downsides, but it also hard counters Rayquaza and Eternatus. He can learn Stealth rock from a tm (if you have room for it) and his Mega is an unkillable tank; just sit on Salt cure and even sandstorm damage. Bonus is that Buttpree is merely 1 point and Aggron is a fair 3 and a solid carry early game.

[@Valancet]

I always forget about Butterfree even though I love it so much. Not to mention it getting Quiver Dance is amazing!

[@azurefoxbh9280]

poplio is imo the best starter in the game, getting access to bouncy bubble AND torch song at level five is beyond cracked, the only downside is how slow he is. but i havent lost a run with it on my team (mainly due to garganacl), the rival is laughably easy no matter the starter she has.

[@agitsetiawan01]

My best run so far is floor 180 on classic run 😢.This video help me so much,thank you bro

[@Valancet]

Keep at it! The beginning of the run is usually the roughest, so you're getting to the last hurdle!

[@agitsetiawan01]

@@Valancet i get kartana from beat bos and caught it with master ball,can you give me recommendation best team for kartana ?

[@556cy]

​@agitsetiawan01 have types which counter it's weaknesses, such as ground or water to deal with fire

[@roguethedemon9735]

Some advice i can give as one of the devs of pokerogue is venusaur is a fan favorite for many runs as a starter is simply because of a bulky grass/poison typing along with leech seed poison powder sleep/powder synthesis and strong grass moves. Charmander is only really good in this mode mainly due its egg moves being bitter blade which is a fire giga drain, oblivion wing which is yveltals legendary move and epower being a strong ground type move to deal with electric mons and dragon dance to set up the big downside to starting with charmander early without egg moves is because the water area being very early most of the time. Swamper is amazing due to its ground water typing and its egg moves have shore up and bulk up being extremely viable in setup along with the passive drizzle and its main ability u start off with torrent. Id never really recommend serperior in pokerogue mainly due to the fact that no one wants to take the time to train up a grass starter with no secondary typing like a bulbasaur or a torterra but it does get multi scale flame thrower and make it rain with clanging scales as egg moves so those can easily make up the difference but it isnt really a mon u want to start with until u get him setup fully after opening a ton of eggs. Currently the best mon in the pokerogue classic format of only starters of each gen is fuecoco mainly because of torch song on its skeledurge evo aswell as shadow ball willo wisp and hex incinerate being level up moves and incinerate is useful since it hits both targets in double battles which were just boosted to happen more often and they also can be champion double battles. Its egg moves make it so much better with the passive punk rock and the moves slack off overdrive and alluring voice instantly making it have the moveset of a fairy toxtricity with slack off healing and fire ghost typing and overdrive will help with water flying alluring with dragon dark types for the most part and shadow ball for psychic ghost types and torch song for grass bug types and on top of that it raises its spatk every hit not even needing a kill making fuecoco the best mon to start with even without egg moves or a passive ability.

[@roguethedemon9735]

best non starter choices as of right now is egg move abra and nacli easily being both that kadabra is a very early on evolution and a link cable can show up very fast as its only great ball rarity to get alakazam and it having a mega option aswell and nacli being salt cure recover for the final boss and it being able to eat most of the final bosses attacks and it will have sturdy or purifying salt making it either immune to 1 hit KO's or status effects and ruins ghost type moves and salt cure dosent stop until the mon is switched out and its also very useful on rayquaza since it will always take an entire bar down excluding the initial damage it does and on top of that stealth rock set up for the rayquaza and a natural learning earthquake and the ability to have to have toxic curse body press diamond storm egg moves with solid rock passive makes it that much better.

[@roguethedemon9735]

tinkaton aswell countering 1st half of boss fight with fake out and gigaton hammer and zigzagoon/meowth being early mons to catch in town that can have pickup or meowth which technicican but u have to pause the evo on meowth if its pickup since it loses it and changes to limber on meowth but zigzagoon dosent need to but meowth has fake out which can really help in double battles next to a sweeper mon like fuecoco.

[@wibble42494]

Leech seed makes the final battle a joke

[@JJ-gy3ld]

Same with salt cure and curse

[@maxsilverman1883]

Great video! I actually disagree with the Blaziken part, especially for someone just starting out. While its mega is great, you aren't guaranteed to get it. This means that your stuck with a relatively frail and slow pokemon that has terrible matchups into the final 2 bosses. Additionally, it a terrible levelup learnset. It's very good when you unlock everything on it, but when you're just starting the game, I'd say its one of the worst starters to pick.

[@Valancet]

That's completely fair and I honestly agree with most of that. I wouldn't say he's one of the worst though 😅

[@derekgunnels4856]

Blazikens only learned fighting moves are Double Kick and Retaliate. His move pool is pretty bad tbh but egg moves help.

[@mooose5779]

My go to starter is Gligar with the thousand waves eggmove, so diverse

[@voicetrain929]

You completely overlooked snarl and will o wisp on Skelidirge

[@young_vi8069]

I know you don't have mewtwo but when you do...add 2 or 3 max luck shiny ..and WRECK THE GAME.....every time I do these I get both mega stones ..and you can change stones before major fights

[@jaimereupert4247]

Katana. If you can get one, it'll definitely get you though this game.

[@SurfNturfz]

Ive had 26 classic runs... made it past 180 8 times but either run out of money in the elite 4 or getting rekt at mega ray with 2 mons left 😂 I have shiny reshiram which ive used last few runs but idk if the 8 cost is worth... only other decent shiny would be trapinch ;/

[@Valancet]

For the money situation, I would recommend using the wiki to look into the structure of runs so you know when big battles are. That way you can save your money and only revive/heal things when necessary. Shiny Reshiram would be a decent starter I think. You can catch other mons during your run to use anyway. Just use those 2 extra points to grab a decent backup (if you can reduce it's cost) or maybe another shiny or a pickup mon.

[@SurfNturfz]

@@Valancet yeah I guess I should probably actually look at the wiki now lol... ive just been kinda blind playing having fun but I'd like to actually win a run now 🤣 The trainer battles are kind of random though right? I've gotten better about saving heals for before rival/boss fights and then I get a trainer battle on wave 144 or something that I'm no where near prepared for 🤣

[@Valancet]

@coltongibbs1518 the regular trainer battles are, but they usually aren't an issue. The gym leader battles are bosses every 30 levels after your first gym leader. The first one is semi-random

[@Zeno1781]

Gigantimax venusaur tanking has to be studied 😂 This pokemon practically stalled ivy wave 195 team with leach seed and synthesis + sleep powder☠️ It could also survive a few hits from eternatus and began its stall yet again

[@ekiM2K]

haven't found any videos focusing on passive abilities or late game classic starters or carries to try... i've got 50% of the starters unlocked but i keep choosing underwhelming mons to try to play with and its not fun

[@Valancet]

@MikePWJr I may look into doing a video on some really good passives/abilities soon. As far as late game mons, maybe I'll do something on some of the best overall. A good rule of thumb in the meantime would be legendaries or anything that has good type coverage. Since the biggest concern is usually Mega Rayquaza, you could try something that can setup well and has a good ice move. Basically anything that gets Dragon Dance or Shell Smash is decent. Cloyster with skill link, she'll smash, and icicle spear will shred almost anything even before getting good items.

[@JubWhere]

Charmander with beast boost is the best non Uber starter easily

[@randemrandum7495]

Also never forget the pokerus mons just grab the lowest costing one fr fr

[@Valancet]

Definitely helpful. Probably more important in endless, but it doesn't hurt.

[@ggkblue2]

am i bad at pokerouge if it took me 126 classic runs to win my first one

[@Valancet]

I think it means you're getting better at least!

[@Iblam3her]

I can't get past wave 145 even with kartana or regieleki i might aswell as quit

[@Valancet]

Nah, it took me plenty of attempts to beat classic the first time. Just focus on learning mechanics and catching/hatching more Pokemon. You'll get it eventually!

[@Valancet]

Also, 145 is one of the hardest points for me for most runs. I just retried against that wave for over 20 mins on my last livestream

[@rivazildo64]

Cool

[@MrAdam0121]

How do you mega evolve though ?

[@Valancet]

You have to find a mega bracelet and then their mega stone

[@MrAdam0121]

@@Valancet ah ok, so the chances without any shiny mons is quite low ?

[@Valancet]

@MrAdam0121 a good bit lower, but I've still managed fairly often. But if you're having trouble in the early game, maybe use something that doesn't need it's mega since you probably won't get it until pretty late

[@MrAdam0121]

@@Valancet thank you, I'm reaching the level 100s pretty often now, it's just pushing over the 150 mark

[@goncaloferreira6429]

is there any way to recover a password?

[@Valancet]

I'm not sure about that. Maybe try contacting one of the developers on the Discord?

[@jaimereupert4247]

#420th like 😏 nice

[@DinoMan_6]

Skipped too much...