Best Tanks for Every Warhammer 40K Army? Vehicles and War Machines for Each Faction!

[@PostProteusKitten]

AdMech's best tank is an allied Knight

[@TheGreatMilksteak]

Was watching people play at the tacoma worlds open, I actually saw this! A knight crusader seemed like the best thing in his army too!

[@rudolfnv6666]

Same for WorldEaters

[@ricksanchez3204]

Lol they don't really have any tanks do they

[@PeterButchens]

honestly, I whish GW would have included Knights as FW options for AdMech in the first place . Kinda like baneblades for guards, and the smol knights in the normal codex instead of robot chickens and spider sentinels.

[@Et_Exterminatus]

Oicht

[@ShadowCoH316]

Now we just need an "Every Factions's Best Anti-Tank Options" video, since anti-tank is so important right now

[@DJJohnnyFi]

If you’re an ork player and 2000 points, I think gargantuan squiggoth might actually be a tank worthy of bringing too.

[@chrismah6248]

Just what to put inside?

[@whichDude]

​​@@chrismah6248Badrukk + 10 Flash Gitz seems fun if you want a shooting Ork platform. Flash Gitz need vehicles to keep them alive anyways. May as well go with the crazy tough one so they can shoot longer. Even if they have to move, Badrukk will help them reroll some misses. 11 slots taken this way. Still have either 4 or 9 slots left

[@joshy9140]

@@whichDude can badrukk give them a bonus in a transport? I thought those rules don’t count as it isn’t the unit shooting, it’s technically the transport

[@ricksanchez3204]

@@joshy9140 I believe you're correct

[@MasterfulKane]

Kill tank is dirt cheap I own one

[@stripeybag6977]

I like how despite being probably the smallest tank the Soritas Castigator looks the angriest.

[@Sonof_DRN2004]

Definitely looks the coolest, without all the sororitas runes and decorations I’d want them in space marine armies.

[@cousinzeke4888]

I find most tanks in 40k hideous but I do adore my castigator.

[@riven5677]

It’s fitting

[@guillercuastico]

@@Sonof_DRN2004with a few changes, its perfect for Black Templars. Well worth the price difference.

[@baylorlopez4495]

and it hits pretty good too. surprisingly. i field 2 in a list. and they do so well i might make it 3

[@DJCallidus]

As a simple Guardsman, I approve of this message. Tanks very much. 💥

[@denisloebner4882]

as another simple guardsman id argue that the shadowsword, stormblade and the legends armageddon pattern medusa are the best tanks we got :-)

[@DJCallidus]

They are good. I like the look of the Leman Russ Exterminator. The weapon is quite good within half range and grants extra AP if you later target the same squad. I like the Rogal Dorn too. Once per game ability to ignore an attack. Preator is good Artillery. Expensive though.

[@InternetEntity]

As a servant of the four-armed emperor, I too agree that the tanks of the Guard are very useful. So much so that my collection isn't legal to field in 10th ed.

[@mistamomo]

Why? Your tanks are way over priced. Should be pissed seeing the cost of a Demolisher vs the cost of some of the other units in this video!!

[@DJCallidus]

@@mistamomo Because it's a tank review and I enjoyed it. I never claimed all the tanks were good. I have been alive long enough to know whining like a bitch achieves very little.

[@ijskender]

He truly never sleeps.

[@sheridoncary2602]

Yeah one can only fathom his sleep schedule

[@Hallowfire10]

No rest for the wicked and no rest for those who like to make Warhammer 40k videos

[@GKJusticar55]

Cogitator array, operational. Data slate tech engaged. Must compile armour list. Omnissiah be praised.

[@memeshort7189]

​@@GKJusticar55Hell yeah

[@stevenburton7725]

Maulerfiend is a far superior tank for World Eaters. It actually benefits from the faction abilities, can tank shock at S:14 rather than 8, and is scary in combat. I’m so sad it has been greatly overlooked.

[@PhantomJavelin]

I'm a big fan. When coming out of strategic reserves near Angron you can give it a 6" charge against things that are Below Starting Strength.

[@Swampert919]

He did say this list is just for ranged tanks, so maulerfiends dont make the cut.

[@stevenburton7725]

@@Swampert919 i know, and technically the magma cutter is a ranged weapon. I understand the criteria, I do. After playing enough games at this point, by the criteria, even the Rhino is a better tank in actual practice. Especially when you know that Jakhals are the current best World Eaters infantry unit for 10th, and they fit just fine in a Rhino to avoid early game indirect fire.

[@VatharGuy]

Here’s the thing I don’t think people are seeing for Disintegrators in AdMech. It’s 195 pts. For 3 Lascannon shots. Meanwhile, you can take 3 lascannon shots (that have twin linked, sustained hits, AND +1 damage) for 150 pts in Balistarii. That can also fallback and shoot and can also get that techpriest 4++. Disintegrators are still wildly overcosted and Balistarii are still absolutely without a doubt the main AV for AdMech.

[@sparhez3598]

I'm sorry, ALL of the admech is absurdly over costed, but at least i can see disintegrator getting some nice healing from Techpriest and 4+ invul and at the same time either being beleros version is very okay at anti infantry and the ferrumite can still be okay at infatry and tanks alike, but i agree it should be... Better...

[@VatharGuy]

@@sparhez3598 oh yeah, AdMech is in an absolute gross state right now it’s not even funny. But my point comparison was just between Balistarii and Disintegrators. IMO, definitely not worth taking them.

[@Highlaw]

Oh yeah Disintegrator is a non-choice if anyone actually thinkgs about it. Silly ideas like adding a techpriest to it, as if raising its points total to nearly 250 was the solution to solve its lack of 4++ and bad firepower. Dunerider is legitimately the better alternative, blocks charging units just as well, and retains its anti-chaff weapon which deals more damage than a 10 man squad of Rangers while only costing 80pts. Likewise the Onager is less offensive, 140pts is too much for it, but at least it's more tanky than the Disintegrator without needing a medic tax, and it has a larger base, so it's perfect to throw at the frontline to block charging units from reaching your Breachers - your opponent can ignore Onager's pitiful damage, but not its size and native tankyness. I simply can't think of a single situation where I'd take the Disintegrator. He can't stand on the back throwing indirect fire, because you'd be wasting his other 2 weapons (which you pay for), and he can't be in the front with zero invul saves (neither should you take a techpriest, 195pts is ridiculous already). He doesn't fit in any niche.

[@VatharGuy]

@@Highlaw 100% agree. AdMechs ‘heavy’ vehicles haven’t been good in a very long time. In 8th Onagers used to be decent with their ‘shield link’ and firepower on the Icarus Arrays. But since 9th the only vehicle worth bringing has been the Balistarii. I really want to see a return of the detachment that lets you revive Kataphrons in exchange for servitors. Also, Breachers not having a 5++ or at least a 2+ save is really dang rough. Whole of AdMech really needs some help in a major way, from points to straight up rules rewrites. Doctrinas are pitifully bad now. Tech priests (the main point of the army?) are nigh useless and Canticles (The whole armies focus for a long time now) are linked to Cawl exclusively? What? Also why is an enginseer the only one who knows how to repair now? Ugh. Rant.

[@dtheraider4336]

Admech just has anti synergistic rules and massive down tuned rules for all models because of our battle line "buffs" Ballistari were the back bone of 9th edition admech and now being a bs4+ and 1 shot is a 50pt model who hits 50% of the time... Only benefit they have is their durability, 2 of them are 14 wounds with a 5++ that you park on a point and because they can never fall beneath 1/2 strength they never have to make command phase battleshock tests. Imagine having a weapons platform so bad as a platform it makes more sense to use it as a point holder than a gun platform.

[@Skuttlems]

I think the dunecrawler is underrated. It's got an innate 4+ save and the neutron laser is some fairly potent anti-tank damage.

[@Billn8tr]

I agree 100%, the forcefield and potency of the neutron laser is crazy, and the fact it comes with 2 heavy bolters. That and the indirect fire nerf hitting the skorpius a while back makes me really prefer the dunecrawler and its wider weapon options.

[@gravity000111]

It's also way cheaper

[@klassensj2]

And with blast triggering at 5 models now, you can really gain attacks.

[@rileysmith7763]

It’s always funny when the Astra militarum “the tank army” has horribly inefficient, lackluster main battle tanks. Just seeing a Gladiator Lancer hurts my soul

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Unless the 10th Battlewagon is different from 9th, the option isn't between lobba and zzap gun, but between kannon, killkannon and zzap gun.

[@bensemusx]

You are right. The lobba is always there.

[@Hallowfire10]

TANKSSSS I love tanks and so does my army of Imperial Guard, the Omverian Shore Snakes (Like the shore troopers from Star Wars and they have to fight massive dragon like snakes on their home world of Omveris)

[@NornQueenKya]

Just bought a baneblade for my gsc. That is now the bestest tank

[@Hallowfire10]

What variant are you running it as?

[@gamingborger]

I have my hellhammer

[@thanatosstorm]

Let'er rip.

[@weissraben4476]

@@Hallowfire10 Octoblade or bust.

[@Trinine9]

Super heavy tanks are kinda meh in my experience eldar ones anyway but the same problems for other factions I would think

[@izzydarkhart4144]

Predator annihilator is being slept on.

[@thanatosstorm]

A little, but Baal Predator too is being slept on (for obvious reasons). Preds are a little less mobile than Glads, so that might be the difference in make-or-break.

[@Frostea]

Vindicators too, run dev doctrine and advance up, 34 to 39" threat radius, doesn't care about being charged by chaff.

[@regalgiant1597]

Vindicators are the best space marine tank no joke, predator is way too unreliable, you may say the same for vindicator, its not.

[@Artuditu123]

Genestealers can also field some Astra Militarum vehicles. Nothing's better than seeing Imperial Knights player's face after you roll out the Shadowsword. Or player with a lot of infantry when you have 5 artillery pieces on the table.

[@Khobai]

The monolith is still a flaming necrodumpster at 385 points. it doesnt even come close to a rogal dorn in offensive ability which means theyre charging well over 100 extra points for just the teleportation ability... that is ridiculous. The Monolith's points cost needs to drop down to 335 at most.

[@sop6424]

imperial guard tanks are overcosted for what they do compared to most other faction's tanks. I mean, there's an immediate comparison there with SM and guard as the first two. the gladius is only negligibly weaker in toughness and wounds, has the marine 3+ ballistics skill, and has access to the massive array of SM buffs to make sure almost every rolled dice goes through. it does all this while being 50-75 POINTS CHEAPER than a russ. it feels like for some reason russes have been priced like they're some kind of super-elite unit or something. like gw forgot that all (most) of the scary guard guns will never hit on anything better than a 3+ and that's before the COs all get sniped or focused down. in fact, the guard's weapons themselves aren't really that scary, relatively. at least anything short of a superheavy's main guns. we're supposed to have quantity to make up for it but the tanks just aren't priced for it.

[@tajj7]

Yeh they are. If you notice what they have done the points cost seems to scale with toughness/save/wounds without fully accounting for mobility and firepower, because like the T9/10 toughness stuff is more around the 150 and then the stuff like Land Raiders seem overcosted at 275, with like Leman Russ in the middle for about 200. But then the logic doesn't apply to like monsters, some really tough high wound monsters are not that expensive and they have far more capability than many tanks, and then you have stuff like a Redemptor Dreadnought is 225 points, it has T10 with a 2+ and 12W, but it us more expensive than a Leman Russ that is T11 with 13 wounds, so a Leman Russ IMO doesn't look overcosted compared to a Redemptor Dread or a Land Raider, but looks overcosted to a fire prism or gladiator lancer.

[@fendelphi]

To be honest, I think the Astra Militarum Tanks are some of the most balanced in terms of price(artillery not so much). Tanks should be tough and deadly, but also with a price point to match. So it is the other factions that need to be a bit more balanced in the same way.

[@samuelharmssambamsjm269]

Man, I the Exorcist really got nerfed so hard. Going 170 pts from 140 took it from justifiable to barely useable. I understand that access too miracle dice makes it reasoably realiabe but, it's Especially painful when you see the the Whirlwind sitting at 150pts, In an army which can arguably buff it far more. Such a Shame for one of the most "40k" tanks in the game.

[@VulkanLivesAgain]

Agree, fire prism stands above all tanks. It is straight up broken with the linked fire and phantasm.

[@Sagamundus]

I love that a castigator and a fire prism are both 150 points. # GWbalance.

[@spiffcheeso]

Also a castigator is 5 points more than a lancer despite less wounds, less mobility, and a less hard hitting gun.

[@stujm84]

​@@spiffcheesopretty much par the coarse when comparing sisters to Space marines.... Less wounds, lower toughness, similar costs etc

[@klassensj2]

I would counter your point about the skorpius being the best admech tank. It has the most offensive profile of our 2 options however, the onager with 55 pts less has the option for a built in -1 to hit, and a 4++, and it ignores 4" tall terrain, so its movement even though is 2" less is arguably much faster.

[@Aodyri]

"Battlewagons are bad as Ork shooting is not really favored right now". Proceeds to gloss over the absolute monster that is the Battlewagon's melee profile. The whole point is, unlike other tanks, you are supposed to keep moving the Battlewagon closer each turn until it is fighting and shooting. The closest thing to a Battlewagon in game design isn't a tank, they are the Knights.

[@chetmanley1885]

Yup, it's a tank shocking melee monster that's packing enough models inside to swing a game

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Plus the tank is full of infantry that splits off. It's a Knight that can vomit chaff, a blender that can shoot a half dozen overcharged plasma bolt-esque melee attacks, a Dreadnought that can secure an objective as it charges the weapons team over there, ect.

[@thanatosstorm]

As an ex-tanker who is doing reviews of 40K tanks... tango mike Auspex. Also... I just got both those tanks for my Blood Angels list. So... I suppose I shall now be sending some rounds on the way for my enemies. :)

[@an000n]

Which tank/s did you serve in?

[@riven5677]

I have a question how impractical would the baneblade be I understand it’s impractical from size weight and speed but you would know far more than me

[@thanatosstorm]

@@an000n M1A1 and M1A2, plus various Humvees and MRAPs

[@thanatosstorm]

@@riven5677 lol, very. I'm doing TikToks about them under my Men Love Romance Too hashtag, and yes, impractical, but rule of cool applies

[@an000n]

@@riven5677 having meany different turrets means you have less ammo for the main gun. It also a probably with being a large slow target for enemy cas

[@fendelphi]

For the Tau, I think the Hammerhead is the best tank. With the Ion Cannon and Lethal(either through Longstrike or an Observer with "TUD"-Enhancement), it is such a great multi-purpose tank. It still has 2 One Shot Seekers, and it gets a +1 to hit against monsters and vehicles, which combined with Commander Shadowsun, makes it very reliable. Strongest setup is having Longstrike give it Lethal in the Command phase, have Shadowsun nearby to allow it to reroll all 1s to hit, and then have the Observer be a Stealth team for that reroll all 1s to wound. This leaves you one reroll to wound from its special ability. With BS3+ from FtGG, +1 to hit vehicles and monsters, lethal and sustained hits2, rerolling 1s, and the number of shots it can fire at decent range, it is quite the monster killer, metal or flesh. A cheaper point cost also means overall less of a loss, if it does get focused down on turn 1 or 2. The Skyray has a stronger "anti-heavy" profile, with its "renewable" 3 Attacks Seekers per turn, but its special ability vs fliers are yet more rerolls, which can be redundant(1s and 2s will miss). It does not get a +1 to hit vs vehicles and monsters, so is a bit more unreliable. And it has far less damage potential against something Elite Infantry. Its initial Alpha strike is also a bit weaker compared to the Hammerhead. Crisis Suits have awesome firepower, but are also rather fragile to even small arms fire and especially plasma weaponry, and the minimum cost for a unit is 195. Also, its most potent weapon(CIB) has a relative short range of 18" and Hazardous when using it at full power(every overcharged CIB fired is a Hazardous test). Broadsides have decent power, but are slow and somewhat expensive. Their firepower is good, but single purpose(anti-heavy), and you kind of need 2 models for enough reliable alpha to take out things like Transports in 1 turn. So that is 220 points. Their durability is also a bit weird. They have a decent amount of wounds(especially with Shield Drones attached) and good save, but at toughness 6, they are still quite vulnerable, especially to plasma weaponry and most medium weaponry like Krak Missiles and Autocannons. A unit of 2 Piranhas(110 points) have overall better survivability, much better Alpha strike potential, much better mobility, and about the same anti-tank capability. The downside is the range(those fusion blasters need super close range to be effective).

[@Skitch213]

So, if I'm getting this right... the hammerhead in your estimation is the best Tau tank but only if you invest 145pts into the model itself, then another 170pts for Longstrike, 140pts for Shadowsun and a minimum of 75pts for a stealth suit team? That's a total investment of 530pts invested into making your one hammerhead decent.and all for the sake of some more reliable S7/S8 shots which also include the hazardous keyword on the higher profile. I dunno about you, but if you have to invest more than an extra 200% pts of what the tank is originally worth to make it good, then it probably isn't good. I'd rather take 3 broadsides and a couple Tetras for fewer points and fire 6 railgun shots and shedload of missile with full re-rolls to hit.

[@fendelphi]

@@Skitch213 I did say "Strongest setup". It is not a requirement for it to be strong on its own. You can be efficient with less. And other elements can benefit as well, depending on what is needed for the situation, and have firepower of their own. It is not like Longstrike is just 170 points of "lethal to 1 Hammerhead". You will most often have Shadowsun regardless, due to the support effects and decent firepower(she is also an excellent Observer should you need it, as most of her things hit on a 2+ anyway). And if you want to capitalize on the aura, you want something that can move along with her. Crisis Suits and other 10 movement vehicles. You only get 2 options for Lethal, and one of them requires an Enhancement and to act as an Observer. Longstrike can provide it in the command phase, which frees up options. You will most likely have Stealth Suits in your army regardless, due to their ability to deny enemy deepstrikes at key locations(most often cant deploy within 9"), the teleport homer and, of course, the more consistent wound rolls when acting as an Observer. Longstrike+Hammerhead cost less than a 6 model Crisis team(without commander) and the points you save could be used for an extra Stealth Suit group of 3 models. It has better long range fire power and better anti-vehicle weaponry(total of 4 Seekers), is far less vulnerable to plasma weaponry and small-arms fire, and the spotter and lethal is already included in the price. You speak of 3 Broadsides, a unit of Tetras "and a load of missiles". Missiles from where? If you stick with the Heavy Rail Rifles, the only missiles you have access to is the 1 One Shot Seeker you can get on each Broadside suit, +Missile drones(range 30"), if you do not mind fewer wounds. Also, they have poor mobility, so it is relatively easy to LOS them to avoid their big shots or the FtGG combo(since both the Observer and the Guided need to be able to see the target). They also have poor performance against infantry, unless you get a lucky Devasting hit with a good damage roll. And since Tetras only reroll the hit, not the wound, shooting at infantry is horribly inefficient for them. The point is, the Hammerhead, on its own is a fairly powerful and reliable tank, at a decent price. It has good synergy with various other Tau elements, and because of this, can engage a variety of threats. It has enough turn 1 Alpha to potentially knock out an enemy vehicle on its own(2 Seekers plus either Railgun or Ion Cannon), and enough mobility to move up and support your other elements around objectives. It is fairly resistant to small arms and medium weaponry, and even 1/3 of the heavy anti-vehicle weaponry will fail to wound(rather than 1/6), something that is not true for the Broadside Suits or Crisis Suits. Crisis has the benefit of a 4+ Invulnerable save and good mobility. Broadside has single focus firepower, but are weak to the same.

[@Skitch213]

@@fendelphi Broadsides are our most efficient anti-armour with Tau and that's just how it is. The hammerheads require too much support to be effective and are out-classed by Broadsides in an anti-armour role, and out-classed by Crisis Suits in anti-everything else. You seem to have some over-reliance on things like Lethal and Devastating, which while important are fairly moot if your argument boils down to "I'm fishing for 6s." As for 'the broadsides I speak of', with 3 models, you're getting 6 attacks with their railguns, then your choice of 3 plasma rifle shots (w/ Twin-Linked) or 9 SMS shots (also Twin) along with an extra 12 S7 Missiles from the drones because... Why wouldn't you take them? They're free, and they're S7 AP-2 D2 which is comparible to the Hammerhead's Ion Cannon albeit less accurate - which is where the tetras come in. Broadsides have plenty of strength on their weapons for the majority of targets and wounding things has never been much of an issue with Tau in my experience. Hit re-rolls are far more important in my estimation when even with markerlights you're still missing half the time, and Shadowsun's re-roll 1s aura doesn't account for those pesky 2s. One could also argue that a couple units of Tetras giving full re-rolls to hit is better than Shadowsun because it plays more into your fishing for 6s playstyle given that you could pick up everything that isn't a 6s and fish again. I've never had any issues with broadsides' movement being too low either. Get them into position early and keep them there the rest of the game. They don't need to be particularly mobile when you've got crisis suits and speeders taking up those roles. It's also far easier to get cover on your broadsides and keep your 2+ saves for longer, so despite the T6, I'm finding them to be very tanky. In terms of pure efficiency, I just think that throwing everything into a hammerhead with an ion cannon and investing more than a quarter of your overall points in a 2,000pt game is a bad idea particularly since the Hammerhead has the durability of a wet paper bag. 24W at T6 with a 2+ and easy cover is just better than 14W at T10 with a 3+ sv Edit: Also, for the cost of 1CP, you can also give your broadsides a 6+ FNP for even more durability. T6 really isn't that big a drawback.

[@fendelphi]

@@Skitch213 That is actually not true. Your most efficient anti-armor is probably Piranhas, a Hammerhead with a Railgun(almost guaranteed 7+ damage vs vehicle or monsters, except for Inv), or for a bigger investment, 3 Crisis Suits with Plasma Rifles/Fusion Blasters. For Broadsides to be "efficient", you need to models working together, so that is 220 points. 2 Piranhas cost the same as a single Broadside. They bring a total of 4 Seekers(which can all be fired at once) and 2 Piranha Fusion Blasters(Melta4). They are fully capable of destroying a vehicle on turn 1, then proceed to hunt down others on following turns, easily paying for their cost. They do not rely nearly as much on deployment location or Turn 1 advantage as the Broadsides do, and your opponent cant really hide easily from them either due to the mobility. They even have arguably better survivability with Tougness 7(are only wounded on a 3+ rather than a 2+ from Las Cannons and the like) and a total of 14 wounds to go through, with the potential of overkill sink(decent chance of 3 Las cannon shot only killing 1 model and not wounding the other). 3 units with 2 models in each cost the same as 3 Broadsides, but can, at a decent success rate, knock out 2-3 vehicles on turn 1. Broadsides, not so much. Unless you split them up into 3 units of 1, your FtGG makes it impossible for effective split fire, and they will have issues with LoS. Now, your most "reliable" anti-tank tool might be Heavy Rail Rifles(you do not have a lot of strength 12+ weaponry as Tau, outside of Seekers). As long as your opponent wanders out into the open, they will continue to lay down fire as long as something is in front of them, or until the Broadsides are killed themselves by strength 6 weaponry or cheeky deepstrikes with plasma weapons on rapidfire. If 3 model Broadside unit takes Plasma Rifles, you need an enemy within 24". Smart Missiles and Missile Drones can engage within 30". Which means your best engagement range goes from 60"(48 is a common engagement range for many tanks) to 30" or less. So you have no coverage for roughly half the board(unless you play combat patrol). And even if something wandered within that range, FtGG and Splitfire are not good friends, so some of the weapons will be very ineffective. What I am saying here is that Broadside's performance relies on those Railguns and your role is to take down enemy heavies. Not secondary weaponry plinking ineffectively at targets. If you want to engage within 30" of the enemy(and all that return fire. Yikes), then switch out the Rails for the Missile racks and go all in. At least you would stand a decent chance of getting some value that way. And without Shield Drones, you will lose a Broadside model to an average of 2 wounding Las cannon shots, rather than 3. Or just 4 Overcharged Plasma Gun Wounds. 3 Auto Cannon wounds is all it takes as well. Bonus round A single Broadside model is unreliable in terms of damage output. Even if you hit and wound with both shots(which is less than 50% chance, btw, even when hitting on a 2+ and wounding on 3+), it is still a roll of a d6+1 damage, so even an average total of 9 damage for both shots is not enough to kill most vehicles. Luckily, they do get the option for a single Seeker as well to help out, but that is only good for one turn. So, 3 chances to deal damage(2 from Heavy Rail Rifle, 1 from Seeker) vs 4 chances to deal damage(Piranha Seekers). With 2 Broadside models, you have a reasonable chance of knocking out a vehicle each turn, as long as there are no other factors. I have not brought up Devastating Wounds, because not only are you still capable of rolling low on the damage(down to a minimum of 2), it is more likely for a regular wound to be absorbed by an Invulnerable save or a cover bonus, than to score a Devastating Wound that ignores it. If the Broadsides survive until turn 3, you might get some high spikes in damage output if they roll a critical hit. But to be honest, by turn 3, you should have killed most enemy vehicles anyway, and finishing off a damaged vehicle with 2 extra Railgun shots is kind of pointless when it would have died on the hit that triggered the crit. Back to the Hammerhead. Hammerheads do not "require too much support". You would want to guide your Broadside/Hammerhead either way, to make the shots more reliable when dealing with a priority target. The Hammerhead gets a +1 to hit against vehicles and monsters, and can reroll either a hit or wound each turn, which means it does not rely on "stationary" for accuracy like the Broadside does. Also, I find it funny that you have an issue with "fishing for 6s" when that is litterally how you use the Kauyon. You roll enough dice at a target to get some crits and in return gets even more dice. Tau is supposed to thrive when combining various abilities from different units, so why deny it? Lethal allows you to bypass a lot of your issues with low strength weaponry as well. A few, high powered shots will hit very hard when they do get the Sustained Hits bonuses, but happen very rarely and can lead to massive overkill. In other words, they are not really efficient. Multi-attacks with decent damage and penetration, on the other hand, thrive with Sustained hits and Lethal. Again, there is a reason why 2 of the 4 Enhancement focus on Crit effects. Against a single model, the Ion Cannon fires an average of 6 shots(4-9). Which means, on average, 1 Critical hit. With reroll 1s and hitting on 3+(2+ if vehicle or monster), that means, on average, 7 hits and 1 Lethal. Wounding on a 5+, you average 2 wounds. So your opponent has 3 wounds to save at -2. Which means, on average, 3-6 damage. And that is the Ion Cannon alone, and without rerolling 1s to wound from Stealth Teams or the one reroll they have innately. You could be looking at 6-9 damage. Then we add the Seekers. Basically the same damage profile as the Heavy Rail Rifles, but with higher Strength and less AP. Which means, that, for one shooting phase, you basically have a Broadside strapped to your Hammerhead. Hitting on a 2+, wounding on a 3+. If you havent spent your reroll to wound, the odds are good for both of them wounding. Which also means good odds for 1 of them to go through any saves. And that was in the "anti-vehicle" role. Something it is not "superb" at, but pretty decent and reliable at, especially on Alpha strikes. But then it also has pretty decent anti-infantry and anti-elite capabilities. Against a 10-man Tactical Squad(T4, W2, SV3+), with Sustain2 and Lethal, exclusive Seekers, it can take out 4 models on average. Against something like Terminators, you can Overcharge and still kill about 3 models on average. Against something like a 20-man squad of basic infantry(not ideal target, as you have other units for that), you can kill 13-15 models fairly reliable as well(poor armor and 1 wound models, vs burst cannons and blast weapon). A 3 model Broadside unit does indeed have better damage vs 1 enemy vehicle/monster, but is inflexible and expensive. Even if you load them up with Missile Drones and Smart Missiles, it does not make them better Tank killers, and they cant split fire effectively either, unless you dont mind 3+ to hit for main weapon, and 4+ and 5+ for secondaries.

[@Skitch213]

@@fendelphi If you think I'm reading that wall of text, it's not happening. I concede, you win.

[@marsianerunterscharfuhrer4112]

Rockgrinder is very scary with tankshock, today I sended 8 mortal wounds with both tankshock and Rockgrinder ability, besides his not bad melee attacks

[@MrDefender1234]

Played against a Forgefiend Castle recently, only had 1 unit left in Turn 3 it was quite horrific. Lethal+Sustained+Devestating Wounds and then Re-roll 1s to Hit and Wound with a strat was SOMETHING alright.

[@EuanMilne]

Plagueburst crawler might be an Essential for death guard armies, long range firepower covering the slower crawl of infantry would definitely help the infantry and terminators

[@griffinwoofter7014]

It is absolutely essential. Our one strategy that has performed consistently is 3 PBC back up by a LoV and Morty all castled up to spam indirect fire. Two problems though. 1. Indirect Fire spam is boring af 2. Death Guard infantry sucks ass and DG fluff is having durable infantry that just doesn’t care.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for continuing these useful guides!

[@Skitch213]

At 145pts, that Gladiator Lancer isn't just good, it's absolutely fucking broken. Expect a massive points increase on that in the future.

[@King_Thulsa_Doom]

My Ravager has "Free Candy" sprawled across the side in blood. Drukhari, am I right?

[@nightingale4632]

I've never played vehicle heavy lists. What armies would be reccomended for a full vehicle list (or close as possible) Im thinking maybe CSM (iron warriors) or eldar's grav tanks...

[@TOOTHBRUSHDUCK]

My main takeaway so far is the the primaris tank, in the gladiator lancer, is absolutely insane, well beyond it has any right to be. More strength than any non-titan has toughness, heavy can get it to 2+, built in re-rolls, good ap, solid damage (and damage re-roll), and it still has plenty of additional guns to fight other targets well. Absolutely nuts.

[@wuffell912]

On behalf of Tyranids players, thanks for including monsters!

[@erusstahl]

Im such a big fan of tanks but I don’t know what I want for my space marines, so instead I’ve been grabbing dreadnaughts

[@thanatosstorm]

We're either ancient Land Raiders or we're the new bois on the block. There's little in between for us.

[@MarkOfTzeentch]

stormsword for guard is amazing.. the amount of fire power it can put out.. and chuck in the cyclops demo vehicles for a nasty surprise.. and win the game

[@Trinine9]

To be fair the fire prism is pretty much the only real tank the eldar have

[@martinazoana]

Night spinner is brutal

[@tajj7]

Still way undercosted for what it is.

[@Trinine9]

it’s not really worth taking for anti tank and you have better options for anti infantry that are cheaper it’s fine but if I want indirect fire support weapons are the better choice and as far as under costed it’s still only T9 with 12 wounds and the basilisk is only 135pts instead of the 170 the night spinner cost i definitely wouldn’t say it was under costed

[@davidcox6454]

Lynx is pretty threatening it’s fast and has a big threat range with its assault anti tank gun

[@Trinine9]

@@davidcox6454 sure it’s less effective the the prism because the prism has multi fire options

[@zm0rc]

Should be noted for the ghost ark you have to take unit in it, cant just bring it by itself so you have to factor that into the points.

[@mrj5552]

thank you for the daily updates!

[@chetmanley1885]

Battlewagon is a decent choice, it can actually fight and it's a good target for tank shock with its (free) wrecking ball at S10. Barely a what I'd consider a tank though, its just a mobile bunker for Nobz

[@Youschnoob649]

How do people feel about the Vindicator ? Maybe a little expensive but quite a decent tank imo

[@MarioMario-uy2my]

For the battlewagon for orks, make sure you bing a mek leading a squad of lootas and maybe flashgitz for some good ap and high str weapons to hit on 4 Or 20 boyz with 2 big shootas with a mek and warboss hitting on 4s with 54 extra shots

[@chetmanley1885]

I just stick the ardcase on and fill it with Power Klaw Nobz. They're the hammer that usually cripples my opponent during the waaagh. I say fill, I don't usually put both in as it makes it a very big target.

[@kdhlkjhdlk]

Over prices in 10th. Mostly. Rogal Dorn and the Auto cannon one are still aces.

[@mondaynugget6503]

Anti-fly 2+ is BURLY vs a lot of the chaos daemons including the primarchs

[@TyllerBoom]

Can you do an overview on the RPG games like Only War? Pros and cons, play style, and similar games that are good for similar play styles.

[@MrHoneuma]

I suppose the metric wants the "tank" to actually be from the army for the purpose of the video, but the general consensus for Death Guard seems to be that the best "tank" for the army is actually War Dog Brigands. Unlike the PBC, they dont require Mortarion and a Lord of Virulence just to function. They're faster, same toughness, same wounds, better OC. Only things the pbc has on it are Nurgle's Gift, a save better by 1, and better leadership by 1. The brigand is better into pretty much everything and costs 25 less pointd, without requiring other units.

[@GoDSkRiLLa69]

Just ordered the Baal Predator yesterday in the 1hr window in which they went back on sale before being bought out of stock - was really hoping to hear thoughts on the Codex Divergent armor!

[@RobskyJr]

I feel like for deathguard the plauge burst crawler isn't as good as the predator, I understand in a sense the pbc can do more than a predator, BUT I feel like thanks to the reduced cost and with the annihilator being more geared towards vehicles while deathguard mostly deals well against infantry. The predator will usually be a better pick imo

[@liamalbiges7748]

Ravagers built in deep strike is worth noting, I know they are not on your favorites list because they are, in fact, boats, and not tanks.

[@codydennis5884]

Finally!! The vehicles are super confusing I'm glad you made this video super helpful 😊

[@peternubaum4514]

M kinda surprised the predator didnt get a mention, absolute beast per points so far

[@Dracoform]

Awesome video, is there any info about the paintscheme for the caladius? that looksreally good....

[@DMHightower]

Another great video!🎉❤ As a Space Marine player, I guess I really need a Lancer! I'm loving 10th Ed for the viability of tanks.

[@CGEE_Music]

My mate who is a big mathhammer nerd would argue point-for-value that the predator destructor is the top tank for the SM's. Thoughts?

[@chriskladis1033]

Forgefiends are beasts. Love them.

[@danarmstrong1025]

Not the Shadowsword? Volcano Cannon R 96" A d3+1 (blast) BS 4+ (heavy) S 24 (devastating wounds) AP -5 D 12

[@otisred7848]

Are you doing or have you done a Chaos Knights in 10th video?? And yes as a chaos knight player 6 Brigands is an auto take. They do work

[@sellis5716]

Think Gw has got tanks about right, pretty balanced internally against other options and now feeling “tanky” against small arms fire

[@mellowfellow14]

And practically unkillable for melee armies like us grey knight players… Games against monster / tank heavy lists are basically an auto lose for us now.

[@Skitch213]

@@mellowfellow14 Having played GK vs Imperial Knights in my second ever game of 10th edition, this is so true it's not even funny. I took down an armiger and a Knight Crusader at the cost of my entire army and all VP... And my opponent still had 2 big knights and 2 - 3 armigers left on the board. Total steamroll.

[@dpshadow7276]

I currently play with a Kratos and I feels like it is really undercosted. It has 18W with 12T and a 2+ Save, while also having really many weapon options for only 245 Points

[@BloodyArchangelus]

No invul would kill him against meta armies. Sadly

[@riven5677]

Where did you get the points I’ve been looking for them

[@dpshadow7276]

@@BloodyArchangelus True, but nothing is good against Eldar and stuff...

[@MrLucBot]

I wonder how many phallic HH jetbikes I'd have to glue together to make a convincing Caladius...

[@NoFaceINoCase]

Hey auspex the lancer hits on a 3+

[@SteveB182]

Heavy keyword

[@NoFaceINoCase]

@@SteveB182 if it doesn’t move, he says it innately hits on you, innately means it normally hits on 2s. the heavy keyword only gives you +1 if you don’t move.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

is the Gladiator lancer good for Black Templars, or am I better off just bringing Dreadnoughts or something? I'm not sure what a good list looks like for BT's in this edition. My BT army is on the back burner while I do some Xenos stuff, but want to get back into them before the year is out. I'm just not sure at all what a good list looks like today. Any examples, please?

[@chetmanley1885]

Yeah it's good, good range and damage output. The only dreadnought that's close is the ballistus, which is decent but more expensive. Redemptors do not fill this role any more, so don't run that for anti tank.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

@@chetmanley1885 what do redemptors do now, please? I bought 3 of them, but not done anything with them yet.

[@Ironside120]

So, why not the Soul Grinbder for Daemons? It's an actual vehicle vs. the Mounted keyword the Skull Cannon has.

[@Swampert919]

He said at the begining the list is just for tanks that fight at ranged... soul grinders prefer melee.

[@ricksanchez3204]

What about the exalted flamer/ef on burning chariot? Would you not call them "tanks"?

[@SenseiLlama]

It just occured to me, looking at the terrax termite for admech (a transport) it has more hp than the skorpius similar save and same toughness. It does slightly less dmg, for 10 points more. Thats sad.

[@rarrythemage7]

The disintegrator is grossly over costed at 195 imo. If you look at all other tanks here it's one of the most expensive besides the custodes, but that only beats it by 20pts.

[@Skitch213]

@@rarrythemage7 [*laughs in 270pts Grey Knights Land Raider that Auspex didn't bother spending any time on because it's just straight up shit.*]

[@SenseiLlama]

Admech is supposed to horde the best vehicles and guns for itself. So why does all our stuff SUCK

[@klassensj2]

The two worst parts about the termite is now with dedicated transports you NEED to have a unit inside or it dies of sadness, and its a legends model. Its not even an old model either (april 2018) and 3+ armies can use it.(the + means the 5 flavours of csm, and the countless flavours of marines)

[@SenseiLlama]

@klassensj2 if only the mech boys had something worth transporting. Sicarians? Nope trashy Electro priest? Also poopy Kastelens? Too fat. Ah, I know, kataphrons, the only mediocre unit we get. NOPE The tech priest doesn't want tread marks in thier beautiful paint.

[@RagnellAvalon]

What do you think about the Malcador for Guard?

[@D00M3R-SK8]

I really like the design of the Fire prism. I reckon I'm gonna get a couple of them soon. Have wanted to start an Eldar army for a very, very long time. The minis were so dated for ages though. I think they had the record for being the least dated before their update last year (or was it 2021?) I'm into the faction for the Aesthetic and lore though, so nerfs to the faction aren't going to bother me... I mean I just started a Tau army as well, and they aren't exactly the best right now.

[@revenant7734]

Just bear in mind that Fire Prisms will likely get another points increase in the next balance update in September

[@D00M3R-SK8]

Yeah, it's more than likely to happen. I mostly want them because I like the models though, I doubt I'll even be playing any 40k in the near future, anyway. Also, just started a Tau army as well, ha ha. I think they are probably one of the worse factions right now. I don't start armies based on what they are like in game any more, just stuff I'm into. From what I experienced these days, the rules change so often anyway, you'd never get the army done before the rules changed on you anyway. Made a couple of mistakes with buying stuff for armies based on them being strong, and then ended up with the armies getting nerfed. I mean I liked the minis, but that wasn't the focus of why I was buying the army. Wasn't a great feeling. So now I just get into whatever I think looks cool, and will work with a base idea I have. I swear I get more into base design all the time. Gotta have a sick base.

[@chetmanley1885]

They're really cool but not the most fun to build. Have some clamps on hand for the hull. The turret is fine as that's much newer.

[@D00M3R-SK8]

@@chetmanley1885 what kind of clamps?

[@regalgiant1597]

Vindicator.

[@ThijsSchrijnemakers]

Thanks, Comment for the Skull Throne

[@SeekerOf7ruth]

Wish Leagues had a Land Fort variant that was focused on transporting models moreso than being a gun platform, with or without Firing Deck. Really feels like that is something the army is missing and the Sagitaur isn't enough to make up for it.

[@davidcox6454]

They have the downside of both their vehicles being a mixed role vehicle which just makes them more expensive then they need to be. Hopefully they get something and he’ll maybe it will give some rerolls lol so that you can actually hit something sometimes

[@ChumblesMumbles]

At 7:50 - yes, it would be a nice tank.....too bad the Custodians are too big to actually fit inside and operate it, so it ends up being inoperable.

[@kikolokopo_toys]

But what is the best black templar vehicle?

[@harrumphreys4841]

Land Raider (for Helbrecht and 10 Sword Bros) and Land Raider Redeemer (for Grim and Servitors and 10 Sword Bros).

[@mattkeepingazoriustactical]

I hate that Transport rule for the Repulsor Executioner. I don’t think anybody uses it for the purpose of transporting anything anyway, I know I didn’t before the rule went down.

[@chriswinsryg2336]

I kinda agree. Would prefer it cheaper and give up the transport. But I am running two in a tournament next week. Putting incursors with a LT in one to disembark, shoot for +1to hit, then re-embark (Lt's ability). The other is going to have a primaris techmarine to heal and give +1 to hit T2 as well as intercessors for some OC.

[@wyatttyson7737]

The Rogal Dorn is better than the Demolisher. Every single Leman Russ tank is overcosted by 20-40 points, but the Dorn is much better for the points.

[@Ferox2121]

I still dont like the Rogal Dorn. It looks so off in the guard, as is does not belong in their line of vehicles at all. No suprise GW made its rules so good, so that it will be played just because it is too good not to take it...

[@Khobai]

why would they make leman russes cost favorably against rogal dorns when they want to sell more rogal dorns? priced as intended. GW prices units to sell them not to balance them.

[@AAw3s0m3]

As a new Tyranids player: "Oh, I didn't see this vid let's see wh-" *skips to relevant section* "...Ah. He may need to update this."

[@faroffshores2216]

Oh wow, Eldar shooting is the best? What an unexpected surprise. Again.

[@martinazoana]

Fire prism is very undercosted

[@FabledAllele]

I feel like leman russ isn't actually the best tank variant now. I personally like the malcadors and rogal dorn better. Plus I think people might be sleeping on doomhammer and baneblade

[@slamindorf5478]

Tanks for the video, Auspex huehuehue

[@swheen]

Colorful. Nice.

[@ghackotpony]

Who doesn't love a good tank vid?

[@jrh2col]

Does anyone know why GW have never had an Ork tank, just transports. There are plenty of tanks in the lore but they have left it to forgeworld to make a few armoured vehicles.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Well, there used to be rules for Looted Vehicles, which could let Orkz snag the tanks of whoever they wanted, but that was smothered quietly as it encouraged using kits "improperly" and using unofficial bits. Now, best you can do is call your Looted Leman Russ a Battlewagon and move on, sadly.

[@IvanKolyada]

Why no Baneblade, the 11-barelled piwet?(

[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

The best tank is DOOMRIDER. (You know, because of the cocaine) 😎

[@Disarray-ef4rt]

Why does GW have such a vendetta against Death Guard this edition?

[@fearthedark442]

On my Sheet the T-Sons Mutalith got only Invun of 5+???

[@blairbird8022]

Best tank for pure Admech; literally the only tank option they have.

[@falsebeliever8079]

Not the Lord Of Skulls for the world eaters?

[@pqfire0950]

Do you guys think that adding a knight to a custodes list is a good idea? Rn its how im getting to 2k points. I could do two warglaives instead when im done painting them.

[@bear4278]

I don’t think it’s a bad choice 🤗 But honestly, 400-500 points worth of custodies would probably be stronger than a single knight!

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Eeeeeh. If you're going with Custodes, they can already basically kill anything you'd want to throw a knight at, for equal points, except they have ObSec ect, core buffs ect. You probably want better chaff, chaff clearing, and backline objective monkeys *cough SoS cough*. AND if you're looking at Knights, look at the Telemon Dreadnought instead, which is basically just a Knight, except solid gold, fabulous, and can turn a good chunk of Knight equivalents inside out with their Caestus, and benefits from all your rules. An Inquisitor and some Acolytes, or an Eversor aren't bad, they won't even disrupt your Battle Forged, and occupy some nice niches, especially if your Inquisitor is a Psyker, as they should be. Honestly some IG heavy gunline might not be a bad idea; the normal weaknesses of Basalisks for being glowing targets and the like are sorta mitigated by the fact that the glorious bananas are STILL probably more immediately threatening, giving them some time to focus down worrying things on the enemy line, and aren't as expensive/are easier to fit as knights. The main thing to be wary of when splashing into Custodes, is disrupting your defensive profile. Custodes by default don't have many ways for bog standard guns, or even anti-meq/primaris profiles to make point value, besides SoS who probably are on surgical missions, and while a Custodes is definitely a good target, there ARE probably enough of them that dedicated anti-vehicle weaponry can only thin, not really destroy them. Custodes are great at making a lot of weapons get used inefficiently, giving those weapons ideal targets to make points back has to be minded. It's not a disaster, just keep in mind that those Ork Shoota Boyz or Guardians or something now have targets they actually want to shoot, instead of shrugging and chipping a single wound off a banana or something.

[@ironmonkey349]

Vindicator 👌🔥

[@MegaADLER77]

I would have to argue that the Repulsor Executioner might be stronger than the Gladiator lancer (and maybe one of the strongest in 10th). Since it can also be used for a transport, if you put a Techmarine in it with a 5 man squad (Not leading the squad. Techmarine gets lone operative within 3" of a friendly vehicle) inside it, it can be healed D3 per command phase and can get a buff to its guns, it can take multiple objectives by dropping a squad off, and being able to cover them with 2 shots at 72" range with S16 -4 AP DMG D6+4 (heavy laser destroyer). It has the HOGC, Twin Heavy Stubbers, A heavy stubber, Twin storm bolters and the repulsor Defensive array. all together its like 35+ extra shots. It has T 12 and 16 Wounds. Ive been lucky enough to get one ( theyre sold out everywhere near me and online) and its done some serious work on the tabletop. Almost no vehicle can stand in my way and no Dreadnought/Terminator squad cant get close enough without getting shredded as soon as the tank sees them. With the added Techmarine. Its too good sometimes against hordes/larger squads and vehicles/walkers.

[@fendelphi]

I am not 100% sure on this, but I think units in transports lose access to all special abilities and effects until they are back on the board(not in the transport). If the transport has Firing DeckX, you can pick 1 ranged weapon from each model in transport to fire in the shooting phase, using any abilities that are available to the vehicle, and that is about it.

[@MegaADLER77]

@@fendelphi when you deploy the 5 man, you can deploy the techmarine as well. That’s when the buffs come into play. I forgot to mention that

[@fendelphi]

@@MegaADLER77 So on turn 1, if the techmarine and 5 man squad is embarked(from the start), you move up to an area and disembark. You have to wait until your next turn before you can provide the repair/buff. On turn 2, after the buff is provided in the command phase, if you want to embark and move on, you once again, wont be able to use the ability on turn 3(as you are still embarked on turn 3 command phase). Alternatively, you deploy disembarked next to the vehicle on turn 1, buff during the command phase, them embark and move up. This will, potentially, give you more uses out of your techmarine, but you will not have any buffs on turn 2, where you would otherwise be in optimal range for most of your weaponry. Anyway, it is 300 points for the combo(not counting the 5 man squad), it has somewhat short range weaponry(most are effective at 24 or less) and it does have a weakness of dealing with elite infantry in cover, but other than that, yeah it has awesome firepower. It will cut through hordes of low tier infantry.

[@luanshala1433]

Repulsor Executioner.. it's a f'in Battle ship.

[@alejandrotorcida9607]

i only see better units, cheaper than leman russes (all variants) with better damage and with invul save :/ now i understand. . . why is so hard to win as an imperial guard player

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Because you already have Leman Russes. Buy your new models and you can win again.

[@miguelperez9906]

A little man 10th is the edition of tanks and armor

[@Smilomaniac]

Repulsors are such giant disappointments, way too generalized and honestly annoying to shoot with due to the amount of guns. Making numaris hover tanks was a mistake.

[@Shardok1]

I personally would not mind having range on the presentation. I understand it does not matter in most cases, but still.

[@Shardok1]

Oh nevermind, he started adding later on.

[@JordanThreinen]

Leman russ all variants comparison plz, im convinced most of the tanks are garbage and the eradicator is actually the best

[@andrewmackemzie4565]

U forgot 1.. DA METAL BAWKES O' DEFFFFF.

[@andrewmackemzie4565]

Slam a HW team insidee and be suprised. Not alot of threat on deez nuts (guardsmen)

[@Frankacy40k]

Nice! I love tanks!

[@labancz8038]

I would hope that the Caladius gets nerfed. It does not feel right to have such good anti-vehicle/monster stuff, in an otherwise strong army. Saying that as a 'toad player. I know that Tacoma was won with some other BS (the assassin/arbites stuff), but that imho does not mean that the Caladius is not undercosted. While I would prefer if it would not exist at all (and if the army would be more or less completely infantry based, with transport and dreads), but given thats not the reality we live in, I think it would be a fair thing not to have one of the strongest infantry -and- best anti-tank (by cost-value).

[@wolfhunter98]

Still feels back the normal battle cannon Russ is so...meh.

[@Matty10thDVN]

Love a good tank